Post by: edrift101 on November 12, 2006, 02:30:00 PM
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Post by: DJ-phYre on November 12, 2006, 02:54:00 PM
QUOTE(xzenor @ Nov 12 2006, 03:59 PM) 
Yea, sue'm for $1600 so you can buy a PS3!! LOL
I would definately not spend $1600 on PS3.
Post by: mortyblack on November 12, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
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Post by: brywalker on November 12, 2006, 03:21:00 PM
After numerous reports of these things either burning up or blowing out the 360 AND Microsoft coming out and saying that it is a draw on the system and will damage it, people are still using them and calling it bullshit.
Well, have fun with your doorstops.
Post by: pickie on November 12, 2006, 03:53:00 PM
THE XBOX 360 DOES NOT NEED EXTRA COOLING
READ THE F ING MANUAL ON WHERE TO PLACE YOUR CONSOL AND IT WONT OVER HEAT
MS WOULD OF HAD THESE CONSOLS ON HEAT SOAK FOR WEEKS 24/7 UNDER FULL LOAD
Post by: simbot82 on November 12, 2006, 04:09:00 PM
This is a Version 2 of the intercooler or te penguin or powerwave hub option.
Post by: bdanser on November 12, 2006, 04:33:00 PM
Caveat emptor!
John
Post by: feflicker on November 12, 2006, 04:39:00 PM
For my entertainment center, I just have a standard 120mm fan exhausting the back of the shelf so it doesn't get too hot in there. I just rigged up a 9v adapter with a molex on it for this purpose. This way my console stays cool and it isn't tied to the 360 in any way... Just a thought...
Post by: epsilon72 on November 12, 2006, 05:09:00 PM
The PS3 does have one thing going for it over the 360 - an apparently superior cooling system.
Post by: fahrenheit on November 12, 2006, 05:22:00 PM
Ever wondered why you don't see PC cooling fans in sandwiched configurations like this? Cause its retarded and inefficient. Two sets of fans sandwiched together causes turbulance that pushes hot air (which the existing fans are more than capable of extracting) back into the case.
Post by: mkon on November 12, 2006, 05:35:00 PM
QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Nov 12 2006, 07:29 PM)
Dumb product for dumb people.
Ever wondered why you don't see PC cooling fans in sandwiched configurations like this? Cause its retarded and inefficient. Two sets of fans sandwiched together causes turbulance that pushes hot air (which the existing fans are more than capable of extracting) back into the case.
Wow what the hell. So now every one is stupid for wanting to keep a xbox 360 running cool. I realy dont think that turbulance is what is the problem here.
Post by: fahrenheit on November 12, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
QUOTE(mkon @ Nov 13 2006, 01:42 PM)
Wow what the hell. So now every one is stupid for wanting to keep a xbox 360 running cool. I realy dont think that turbulance is what is the problem here.
That is correct, it is not the issue that is referred to here, but it is an issue that makes the product redundant in the first place. If people want to strap on a product that is in no way endorsed by MS and they have no real concept of what is taking place with regards to airflow, then yes, they are stupid.
The 360 does not report its internal temperatures to end users. Therefore any intelligent person would be sceptical of any claims that the company that sells the product makes in regards to performance.
Post by: youloseagain on November 12, 2006, 06:12:00 PM
Its like plugging 10 power strips with things like (tvs blenders and band saws etc) into 1 electrical outlet or its like "Having a pc and soda cooler plugged into a 6 power outlet strip connected to a 20 foot 15 amp extension cord" which is how they had set up things at my work.
I told them they needed to have an electrician wire a seperate circuit for the cooler. The end of cooler plug where it was plugged into the powerstrip was warm and partially melted.
Finally they got a new circuit put in for the cooler.
But yeah always overestimate the guage of wire you need when working with electricity and be very careful. This product is a piece of crap from an electrical wiring standpoint.
Just to add I bought a nyko controller for my ps1 back in the day. It blew the internal fuse for the controller ports inside the ps1.
Post by: chinozzz on November 12, 2006, 06:26:00 PM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Nov 13 2006, 01:16 AM)
Hah. Fortunately I didn't buy one of those.
The PS3 does have one thing going for it over the 360 - an apparently superior cooling system.
I was in the Target where they had the DEMO PS3 and the people there had to RESET the PS3 about every hour because it was freezing up/overheating. Who knows maybe it as well is just a "Bad one"
Post by: Gliff159 on November 12, 2006, 06:34:00 PM
QUOTE(chinozzz @ Nov 12 2006, 08:33 PM)
I was in the Target where they had the DEMO PS3 and the people there had to RESET the PS3 about every hour because it was freezing up/overheating. Who knows maybe it as well is just a "Bad one"
the ps3 is gonna need a vastly superior cooling system because it generates so much hear
Post by: DaMyth on November 12, 2006, 07:06:00 PM
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Post by: joey27 on November 12, 2006, 08:37:00 PM
QUOTE(DaMyth @ Nov 12 2006, 07:13 PM)
I have one, and it's sitting on the shelf. This product started giving me the 3 red lights of death, because my console was getting hot. Did the Arctic Silver 5, and still had problems. Took the Intercooler off and BAM, my shit was working with no problems or overheating issues. I would never tell a friend to get one of these things, not unless they are purposely trying to fry their 360
I also had the same problem with the 3 red lights but once I removed this Nyko intercooler, the 3 red light have not came back.I was so pissed I called ms costomer service and I told them how in the hell is my shit overheating when I have nyko intercooler and the pelican stand holder with a fan.Ms just told me to send it in and they would not charge me because of extented warranty of the first lunch xbox360.I also believe that the three error light is caused by not having suffecient power for the inter cooler.ms has stated to remove everything to see if the erors go away,witch in some systems it does go away.
Post by: fahrenheit on November 12, 2006, 09:11:00 PM
QUOTE(scottmuller28 @ Nov 13 2006, 05:09 PM)
Its a real shame that the 360 has got a serious heating problem and they can easily solve it just by putting one extra fan inside the box. They seem to be are more focused on putting black shit into DVD-rom drives to stop hacking but fail to improve their major design faults. eg Metal eletronic sheild within inner shell waste of resources bloody stupid traps hot air in!!
They have a CPU design revision which is due early next year which dramatically reduces heat and power. Old news.
Post by: silentbob343 on November 12, 2006, 11:40:00 PM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Nov 12 2006, 08:16 PM)
Hah. Fortunately I didn't buy one of those.
The PS3 does have one thing going for it over the 360 - an apparently superior cooling system.
While intial reviews would make it seem so I wonder how it will do in the consumers hands.
QUOTE(chinozzz @ Nov 12 2006, 09:33 PM)
I was in the Target where they had the DEMO PS3 and the people there had to RESET the PS3 about every hour because it was freezing up/overheating. Who knows maybe it as well is just a "Bad one"
heh sounds familar....When the 360 came out the same thing happened at the target I used to frequent. The kid working the counter said said it constantly froze and required hard resets. Judging a console that gets run 24/7 in a plstic box is not the best way to make a decision. I worked for Target for a couple years and every console would freeze.
QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Nov 13 2006, 12:18 AM)
They have a CPU design revision which is due early next year which dramatically reduces heat and power. Old news.
die shrink, not redesign
Post by: drakethegreat on November 12, 2006, 11:55:00 PM
QUOTE(bdanser @ Nov 12 2006, 04:40 PM)
I put one of these things on my box when I first bought it four months ago. It would cause errors, make strange noises, and generally screwed things up. I took it off and have had no problem since.
Caveat emptor!
John
Ya I had the exact same problems. So I threw out the intercooler and awesome... except now I still have performance issues when playing long games of Madden 07. Of course this could never have anything to do with the fact that companies outsource their production... You get what you pay for.
Post by: Cr4z33 on November 13, 2006, 12:08:00 AM
Were they right?
http://www.elektriq....-cooling-device
Post by: Puma81 on November 13, 2006, 05:29:00 AM
QUOTE(C89ZX7R @ Nov 13 2006, 11:00 AM)
love how people say their getting red lights on start up with the intercooler . If you actually read the directions it says " do not start the xbox with the intercooler on "
How are you supposed to not turn on the intercooler when you power on the 360. It has no on/off switch as it uses the 360's power source directly. I dont know what manual you were reading.
Post by: Sgt_Yates on November 13, 2006, 06:31:00 AM
I do not use my intercooler often. I mean, I think he turned it on without the power connector snapped/locked in correctly. Remember on the old XBOX, it would crackle if you plugged it into the wall, and then the cord to the console. I mean that thing shouldn’t be sending much power, until u hit that power button. It doesn't even run the fans until you power up. So it can’t be more than a couple of volts running through it in static. I am not an EE major, but there must be an explanation here besides "NYKO effed up!" Well, I hope so, because I already threw out my receipt and lame packaging for mine...
If you really have had problems, then cool (no pun intended), but its AMAZING how many "problems" are coming out of the wood-work now...can u say bandwagon?
Post by: Sgt_Yates on November 13, 2006, 06:55:00 AM
Post by: pcrat on November 13, 2006, 07:33:00 AM
PROBLEM SOLVED!!!I belive more on m$ talking about drawing power deal, microsoft didnt create any extra power to supply 3rd party hardware.
keep your system in an open cool area, heel place a mini desk fan behind it.
I shouldnt talk too much tho i have mine in my entertainment center next to my t, ive had it over 6 months now and nothing not even a glitch yet.
but we are rearanging the living room soon so yes it will be moved in the open.
hell take the case off and place a fan next to it
Later
Post by: gamemaster14 on November 13, 2006, 07:55:00 AM
QUOTE
Hah. Fortunately I didn't buy one of those.
The PS3 does have one thing going for it over the 360 - an apparently superior cooling system.
The PS3 does have one thing going for it over the 360 - an apparently superior cooling system.
I think it is funny how people claim the ps3 has better everything even before anyone (except japanese) have one yet. I have a feeling the system will have its share of problems. Both the ps2 and ps1 had plenty of them.
Post by: Reezum on November 13, 2006, 08:11:00 AM
QUOTE(kn0bby @ Nov 12 2006, 09:44 PM)
Anyone else had this problem, ive just ordered three of these things off ebay for myself and friends.
knobby..
I have had the exact same problems and posted my images on www.360gamesaves.com. I actually thought this guy had stolen my pics when I saw this artical but I'll leave a link to the forums I posted mine on at the bottom of this post.
I emailed Nyko and got no response from them - I would NOT recommend getting an inter cooler. Mine melted into the PSU and I had to snap it off! Luckily the shop replaced my 360 but Nyko were no help at all!!
BEWARE
link: http://360gamesaves....h...971&hl=Nyko
I'll Upload my pics onto this forum if you cant access them via the link
Post by: feflicker on November 13, 2006, 10:01:00 AM
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But can some smart person design a DIY USB alternative for the intercooler, so I can run those fans off of the USB port?
USB is only 5v. You can't get much airflow with that.
The best solution is to just take an ac adaptor that is 9-12v and splice it in, get rid of the stupid connector to the 360 altogether. Or do what I did, just make your own cooler... Who cares if it looks sexy, it just needs to cool the damn thing.
EDIT: Also, anyone that says "the 360 doesnt' need to be cooled more" needs a lesson in electronics. The #1 cause of failure in electronic devices is heat. In some way or another heat almost always destroys electronics, especially over time. If you can keep your 360 a few degrees cooler, WHY NOT.
Post by: Dr Donkey Kong on November 13, 2006, 10:38:00 AM
damages: xbox 360 damage [replacement]
intercooler [replacement]
hazard to family and friends [$$$$$$$]
Good Luck!
Post by: Flubster on November 13, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
Flubster
Post by: DoTsTeR on November 13, 2006, 12:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Puma81 @ Nov 13 2006, 07:36 AM)
How are you supposed to not turn on the intercooler when you power on the 360. It has no on/off switch as it uses the 360's power source directly. I dont know what manual you were reading.
Umm NO.. mine has a toggle switch for it beinh on or off.. ya the 360 powers it but it still has a switch
I'd also like to say that thing NEVER gave me a problem.. and it made oblivion stop locking up on me
(and my xbox is out in the open and the air temp in my place is always 68-70)
Your mostly only going here people that had problems on internet forums complain about the intercooler
I have no doubt for some people it fucks up.. but I guarantee for 90% of the people it is fine.
Post by: silentbob343 on November 13, 2006, 12:23:00 PM
QUOTE(DoTsTeR @ Nov 13 2006, 03:14 PM)
Umm NO.. mine has a toggle switch for it beinh on or off.. ya the 360 powers it but it still has a switch
I'd also like to say that thing NEVER gave me a problem.. and it made oblivion stop locking up on me
(and my xbox is out in the open and the air temp in my place is always 68-70)
Your mostly only going here people that had problems on internet forums complain about the intercooler
I have no doubt for some people it fucks up.. but I guarantee for 90% of the people it is fine.
Well, that's how most forums operate. People looking for solutions/information to a problem or just wanting a place to bitch.
Post by: linnx88 on November 13, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
Here's a short story of what's happening with my intercooler.
My first xbox began freezing, albeit it was the first to be released, I got it in Nov of last year and those reportedly had cooling problems (not all of them but a lot).
So I got a replacement 3 months later and decided to get the Nyko interburner. It worked fine for about 2 months, then I started hearing sounds like something was being shredded to bits inside the cooler. From what I read it's the ball bearings in the fan going bad, thus causing friction and friction always causes heat. So that's why a lot of them are burning out, it's because the fan ball bearings are going bad.
So i ignored the problem for a while, the noise has gotten progressively worse....after reading this.......GOOD BYE INTERCOOLER!! Taking it off as soon as I come back from work. Hoping I won't find any scorch marks.
It's definetly a poorly made product, a great idea as it did keep my 360 cooler, but very poor design. If you do decide to get one, pay very close attention to the sounds it makes. Btw this is not the only problem with the cooler. If you don't have it snapped tightly, you'll get red ring of light and possibly damage the console in the long run. Just avoid this and like everyone said before, get either a different product with its own power supply or just put a fan where your 360 is.
Thanks to xbox-scene for saving my console!!
Post by: Dayton08 on November 13, 2006, 01:38:00 PM
QUOTE
I have since taken the intercooler off, provided it's own power supply and cut out the power section, so I can plug the cord directly into the xbox. I also cut out the fan plastic, so it doesn't make as much wind noise.
Same here... mine was working good for about 6 months.. then red lights and freezing..
took it apart.. cut out the intercoolers's plugs and left the casing. Use a 12v power suppy for the fans and plug the 360 into it's real cord.
Works awesome now.. (yes i beleive i notice a difference with it on. better framerate.)
Post by: gaming fanboy on November 13, 2006, 01:42:00 PM
Post by: hekker001 on November 13, 2006, 02:09:00 PM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Nov 12 2006, 06:16 PM)
Hah. Fortunately I didn't buy one of those.
The PS3 does have one thing going for it over the 360 - an apparently superior cooling system.
I guess you have not heard of the overheating issues the PS3 have been having.
Post by: feflicker on November 13, 2006, 02:24:00 PM
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After I read this I took my intercooler off, took out the screws that cover the wiring, and snipped the wires for the fans. thus removing both the sockets that plug into the 360 and the power plug. Then i took a dremel, and cut out a hole for the power plug to go through. I had an old ac adapter laying around, spliced the fan wires to the adapter, and hooked it back up. No problem. Now i have to plug the cooler in seperately, but I don't have to worry about my 360 not getting enough juice. Or the socket melting. It does need an on off switch, i'll save that for another day.
That's the best solution imo. I never bought that thing personally because I didn't like that it shared the power connection. I just had a feeling that was a bad idea from day #1. I made my own solution, but there is no reason you can't simply modify something commercially available and make it better
Post by: smitty2003 on November 13, 2006, 03:10:00 PM
Post by: Calley on November 13, 2006, 03:28:00 PM
QUOTE(pickie @ Nov 12 2006, 05:00 PM)
WHY WHY WHY ???????
THE XBOX 360 DOES NOT NEED EXTRA COOLING
READ THE F ING MANUAL ON WHERE TO PLACE YOUR CONSOL AND IT WONT OVER HEAT
MS WOULD OF HAD THESE CONSOLS ON HEAT SOAK FOR WEEKS 24/7 UNDER FULL LOAD
Incorrect young Skywalker....
I have my 360 totally in the open.....I keep my AC on 70 degrees F and I still had lockups during Oblivion, Quake 4, and COD2. Got the intercooler and have had no problems since......
That is all............
Post by: alexfair on November 13, 2006, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: Sgt_Yates on November 13, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
I love you XBOX 360
, I love your supple curves and smooth case. I will press your buttons and wipe you down every day, so that your body glistens in my shimmering lights. My digital tongue of entertainment 
longs for the thought of one drop of pleasure spouting forth from your geyser-like teats of glorious gaming pleasure...and I'm spent !! 
Post by: BasicAir on November 13, 2006, 06:47:00 PM
QUOTE(Sgt_Yates @ Nov 14 2006, 01:51 AM)
I love your supple curves and smooth case.
ROFL "supple" -- You mean "subtle" man.
Post by: Tobias Redfield on November 14, 2006, 12:12:00 AM
Post by: CamaroGuy on November 14, 2006, 12:59:00 AM
QUOTE(BasicAir @ Nov 14 2006, 02:54 AM)
I had my Intercooler for 5 months. I praised it as a product because it does a hell of a job!
I took it off a month ago because my launch-360 started having the 0102 three red lights of death. When I took it off, I noticed the exact same thing. That one in the picture looks 100% like mine! I never thought it was a big enough deal to make a news item out of, though.
When you put an adapter like that on your 360 then of course you will have issues like that because the 360 was NOT meant to have this device connected to it! So in a way it's not even the Intercooler's fault!
Even though my Intercooler still works, I don't use it anymore because when I noticed mine had this exact issue I got a little worried and didn't want to risk using the product anymore.
ROFL "supple" -- You mean "subtle" man.
i think he did mean supple as in
supple
adj 1: gracefully slender; moving and bending with ease
Post by: grimdeath on November 14, 2006, 05:03:00 AM
QUOTE(mortyblack @ Nov 12 2006, 11:11 PM)
looks faked....
Trust me its not fake, I was the one who emailed both kotaku and Nyko about this what I did was make it usb powered now its working fine.
And this product would also have my xbox get the ring of death like once every month or so.
And BTW yes the fans have orange stickers.
Whats more dissapointing is that Nyko hasn't answered my email at all, I sent this to kotaku because it can be a serious fire hazard and wanted others to know and it seems I'm not the only one having this problem.
Post by: youloseagain on November 14, 2006, 09:07:00 AM
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After I read this I took my intercooler off, took out the screws that cover the wiring, and snipped the wires for the fans. thus removing both the sockets that plug into the 360 and the power plug. Then i took a dremel, and cut out a hole for the power plug to go through. I had an old ac adapter laying around, spliced the fan wires to the adapter, and hooked it back up. No problem. Now i have to plug the cooler in seperately, but I don't have to worry about my 360 not getting enough juice. Or the socket melting. It does need an on off switch, i'll save that for another day.
QUOTE
That's the best solution imo. I never bought that thing personally because I didn't like that it shared the power connection. I just had a feeling that was a bad idea from day #1. I made my own solution, but there is no reason you can't simply modify something commercially available and make it better
Glad to see people still diy. Wallwarts / multimeters FTW. Its sad nowadays less and less people are learning to fix things. Its a good way to save money and be less reliant on companies.
Post by: Alex Atkin UK on November 14, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
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