Post by: dizturbd on December 13, 2004, 05:53:00 PM
http://www.petitiono...n/petition.html
Post by: celinedrules on December 13, 2004, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: nemt on December 13, 2004, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: thepissedoffman on December 13, 2004, 07:44:00 PM
Post by: l2andom on December 13, 2004, 07:47:00 PM
ESPN , even though I play both EA and ESPN, without there being an ESPN version.. it just kinda sucks.
Post by: scorpionking77 on December 13, 2004, 08:06:00 PM
Post by: coltblue18 on December 13, 2004, 09:23:00 PM
Post by: tonloc79 on December 13, 2004, 08:13:00 PM
Post by: tonloc79 on December 13, 2004, 08:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (coltblue18 @ Dec 14 2004, 05:15 AM) |
| you're full of shit. have a nice day. |
Dammit its true!!!!
I only wish it was not true!
Post by: coltblue18 on December 13, 2004, 09:36:00 PM
Post by: celinedrules on December 13, 2004, 08:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (scorpionking77 @ Dec 13 2004, 08:09 PM) |
| I know on this site does not condone downloading games but if this deal goes through I will NEVER Buy a Madden game until this deal is done. Ea should not have the right to do this. What happen to fair practice. Not right for the consumer so im boycotting Ea sports for five years it looks like |
Well the NFL has the right to do business with whomever they please. Thats like when you go into Burger King and they carry Coke products. I am sure Pepsi would like to be there too but BK chose not to carry Pepsi. That analogy really isnt the same but you get the idea.
When you say EA shouldn't have the right, the NFL game them the right.
Post by: scorpionking77 on December 13, 2004, 09:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (celinedrules @ Dec 14 2004, 05:30 AM) |
| Well the NFL has the right to do business with whomever they please. Thats like when you go into Burger King and they carry Coke products. I am sure Pepsi would like to be there too but BK chose not to carry Pepsi. That analogy really isnt the same but you get the idea. When you say EA shouldn't have the right, the NFL game them the right. |
yeah i understand and unfortnatley that is true the NFL has the right to deal with whoever they choose but still unfair to the consumer. yall know Ea is going to charge up a roof to cover what they paid and we the consumers are going to get dicked. So im done with Ea as my way of boycotting this deal. I ll do my part to protest, maybe it ll do some good i hope. <
Post by: FektionFekler on December 13, 2004, 09:43:00 PM
Post by: ProSam on December 13, 2004, 10:31:00 PM
This is bullshit. I wil definately boycott all ea titles. Though I don't even own any right now either. MOther Fuckers.
Post by: enderandrew on December 14, 2004, 12:43:00 AM
Post by: thepissedoffman on December 14, 2004, 05:41:00 AM
| QUOTE (celinedrules @ Dec 14 2004, 05:30 AM) |
| Well the NFL has the right to do business with whomever they please. Thats like when you go into Burger King and they carry Coke products. I am sure Pepsi would like to be there too but BK chose not to carry Pepsi. That analogy really isnt the same but you get the idea. When you say EA shouldn't have the right, the NFL game them the right. |
Yea the NFL can do business with who they want to.
But,
The NFL has been and still is subsidized by tax payer money (can you say stadium building) and they are involved in interstate commerce which means they are regulated by congress. This is the same reason why John McCain can threaten baseball about drug testing with authority to back it up.
If there is enough public outcry (which I don't think will happen) the goverment can say "no" to this deal. Thats why I signed the petition and I e-mailed my congress man and senator.
Post by: Baner on December 14, 2004, 10:58:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| If there is enough public outcry (which I don't think will happen) the goverment can say "no" to this deal. Thats why I signed the petition and I e-mailed my congress man and senator. |
You know you're on a video gaming forums when...
Pretty shitty deal, but that only means the other companies can't use actual NFL names right? So you will still be seeing new football games, since you can't buy a sport. This doesn't mean the end of all other football games.
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 14, 2004, 12:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (Baner @ Dec 14 2004, 08:01 PM) |
| So you will still be seeing new football games, since you can't buy a sport. This doesn't mean the end of all other football games. |
Thats true but the games will sell maybe 3 copies. No one wants a games with made up teams and players.
After 1 year of no sales for other games, madden will be alone.
Post by: FektionFekler on December 14, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
Post by: Griffen37 on December 14, 2004, 01:02:00 PM
Post by: Cold Fuzion on December 14, 2004, 01:07:00 PM
Post by: Baner on December 14, 2004, 01:19:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Thats true but the games will sell maybe 3 copies. No one wants a games with made up teams and players. |
We didn't mind in the days of "Ken Griffey Presents Major League Baseball" on the SNES.
Maybe the other sports game makers will add-in a feature that allows you to connect to a 3rd party website, and download a file of "Make belief" names for the players.
It's a hard hit, but there are other ways around it. Just gotta put some witts behind it.
Post by: chilin_dude on December 14, 2004, 01:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (Hercules Q Einstein @ Dec 14 2004, 08:55 PM) |
| Thats true but the games will sell maybe 3 copies. No one wants a games with made up teams and players. After 1 year of no sales for other games, madden will be alone. |
I'm surprised you believe this.
Pro evolution soccer is the best English football game there is, but doesn't have rights to real names or anything. However it still sells LOADS and is coming out nearly every year with new versions, people just rename all the teams then release a patch for it... There are even retail disks for sale that just rename all players properly, I will expect this to happen for NFL games.
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 14, 2004, 02:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (chilin_dude @ Dec 14 2004, 10:25 PM) |
| I'm surprised you believe this. Pro evolution soccer is the best English football game there is, but doesn't have rights to real names or anything. However it still sells LOADS and is coming out nearly every year with new versions, people just rename all the teams then release a patch for it... There are even retail disks for sale that just rename all players properly, I will expect this to happen for NFL games. |
Wait and see, i promise you i am right. First of all i have never heard of the game your talking about (Kinda proves my point). Anyway soccer is different because its about the countrys not a certain league. In a soccer game you can still have a USA team. People are way more interested in the NFL than generic football. EA wins and all other football products will be crushed.
Post by: Griffen37 on December 14, 2004, 03:36:00 PM
Post by: elfey1 on December 14, 2004, 03:53:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| First of all i have never heard of the game your talking about |
well soccer isnt as big across the pond therefore you probably wouldnt do, most british guys will have heard of the pro evolution soccer franchise... which means it could work for the NFL in the same way.
| QUOTE |
| soccer is different because its about the countrys not a certain league |
point taken, but there are soccer leagues too you know
the biggest one that most people care about being the premiership... back in the day some of the soccer titles used to just slightly change the letters of the players names - so you can still tell who it is. - not sure about nowadays, as im not a huge fan of football games - fps all the way!! but it goes to show that not only one can dominate, and if it was better gameplay, why would you care if the name of the game had to be changed - just cus its called NFL (insert year here) doesnt mean its better to play than a generically titled one.
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 14, 2004, 04:55:00 PM
| QUOTE (elfey1 @ Dec 15 2004, 12:56 AM) |
| point taken, but there are soccer leagues too you know the biggest one that most people care about being the premiership... back in the day some of the soccer titles used to just slightly change the letters of the players names - so you can still tell who it is. - not sure about nowadays, as im not a huge fan of football games - fps all the way!! |
Yeah i dont know much about soccer.
Anyway you cant just change the name slightly either. The NFLPA (and NHLPA, NBAPA) is to strict and would sue, thats why in ESPN NHL the classic teams only have players named "Lef Winger 1".
Post by: thomes08 on December 14, 2004, 09:46:00 PM
this sucks
thomes08
Post by: celinedrules on December 14, 2004, 10:48:00 PM
Post by: Mega_mil on December 14, 2004, 11:26:00 PM
Post by: enderandrew on December 15, 2004, 04:26:00 PM
Post by: Mega_mil on December 15, 2004, 04:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (enderandrew @ Dec 15 2004, 07:24 AM) |
| ESPN should make an NCAA game now. |
They just released one a few weeks ago. ESPN College Basketball 2005. It's pretty good. I play that and NCAA March Madness 2005 from EA. I'd rather play ESPN College with friends because I like the dunks and the way it controls.
Post by: enderandrew on December 15, 2004, 05:07:00 PM
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on December 15, 2004, 05:24:00 PM
Post by: AlexK on December 16, 2004, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: enderandrew on December 17, 2004, 01:01:00 AM
EA is a horrible company, but I don't take it out on the game developers. If anyone is paying attention, they work 80 hours weeks with no overtime and get paid dick. California is pursuing a lawsuit against them for labor practices.
I've always bought EA Sports titles, and enjoyed them. They've put out one of the best boxing titles ever. I hate golf, but Tiger Woods is pretty damn fun. Their NCAA Football game is like liquid crack, and their NHL series is horribly underrated.
ESPN snuck in with a great football title, but EA has a solid lineup of sports titles. It will take a serious contender to knock them out of the marketplace, and I hope to see it.
Post by: enderandrew on December 17, 2004, 07:41:00 PM
The game will feature on the field, and off the field action.
Blitz: Playmakers
Post by: Mega_mil on December 18, 2004, 04:34:00 AM
Post by: enderandrew on December 19, 2004, 06:10:00 PM
Post by: pallan on January 03, 2005, 12:41:00 AM
Post by: AgentEB on January 18, 2005, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: ProSam on January 23, 2005, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: ZeroTheHero on February 05, 2005, 11:27:00 PM
QUOTE(bigfnb @ Feb 5 2005, 07:11 PM)
As time progresses u get to a point where a game cant get any better.
When has that ever happened? There are always things to improve upon.
Post by: dizturbd on February 19, 2005, 12:33:00 AM
Post by: DuDeR MaN on February 19, 2005, 06:07:00 AM
I own enjoyed both games so I never heavily favored one over the other. I guess i tend to play madden more though. It's like the soda war, some people love coke and hate pepsi or vise versa.... I don't mind either nor do i see much of a difference in taste. But hey, thats just me.
so in closing.... yea I don't like the deal that was made (especially cause I really enjoyed the Blitz series) but It won't stop me from enjoying what is a GREAT game.
And one more thing, nothing against you dizturbd, but why do people insist on making these petitions for anything they disagree with or don't like. Sure petitions may work to keep your local library open but for a big deal like this... they won't even look at it. No one will care. It's meaningless.
Post by: Spency234 on February 19, 2005, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: dizturbd on February 19, 2005, 11:56:00 AM