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Post by: Blackbolt on May 02, 2007, 03:36:00 PM
Makes me sick the way people make money of it.
Post by: 47_M450N_47 on May 02, 2007, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: Master Reefed on May 02, 2007, 04:05:00 PM
Instead, they took away everything he had and he has to start over.
"an operation that could produce up to 16 pirated games at a time"... wow! sounds to me kinda like when someone gets caught growin weed and they weigh the roots, and the dirt before they tally it all up,... exagerating it lol
Post by: jimbobjim on May 02, 2007, 03:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Master Reefed @ May 2 2007, 11:05 PM) 
If this guys were dealing drugs, he would be behind bars.
Instead, they took away everything he had and he has to start over.
Did you even read the article? He was given 18 months behind bars and will recieve a further 16 if he can't come up wth the fine money.
Basically the guy has lost his home and has aquired a hefty prison sentence for his trouble. I know what he did was wrong but this is a bit harsh. As someone said earlier, drug dealers get less. Looks like they are making an exmple of him to deter others.
Post by: cowsn on May 02, 2007, 03:39:00 PM
QUOTE(47_M450N_47 @ May 2 2007, 10:52 PM)
I just think it's funny that software pirates often get harsher sentences than friggin drug dealers. Yeah, don't copy stuff and sell it, it's illegal, but seriously, if they are gonna take selling pirated stuff this seriously, then why don't they crack down on the drug dealing? Everybody around where I live knows where to freaking get any kind of drug you want, it's definitely a more prominent and profitable business than selling pirated stuff, but it's rare that anyone gets caught for dealing illegal narcotics, which should be a much bigger concern than a few copyright violations, I mean there are human lives at stake here.</rant>
thats cause the gov't knows drugs are good and people shouldnt be punished for using them.
Post by: jxoxn21 on May 02, 2007, 04:42:00 PM
HELL. YEAH. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif) marijuana is a plant and will probably (not shockingly) become legal and widely available like alcohol. Only marijuana is much less severe than alcohol.
This post has been edited by jxoxn21: May 2 2007, 11:44 PM
Post by: jimbobjim on May 02, 2007, 04:15:00 PM
Post by: mlapaglia on May 02, 2007, 04:56:00 PM
QUOTE(jxoxn21 @ May 2 2007, 06:42 PM) 
"thats cause the gov't knows drugs are good and people shouldnt be punished for using them."
HELL. YEAH. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif) marijuana is a plant and will probably (not shockingly) become legal and widely available like alcohol. Only marijuana is much less severe than alcohol.
cocaine comes from a plant haha.
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Post by: 89c4l98 on May 02, 2007, 04:27:00 PM
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Post by: luther349 on May 02, 2007, 05:34:00 PM
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Post by: epsilon72 on May 02, 2007, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: gli7ch on May 02, 2007, 08:09:00 PM
Back on topic though, Yea he got what he deserved. But he got some money before all that. Man, and British pounds equal almost like 2 dollars here now, so multiply those numbers by like 1.86745 or some shit and see how much American Greenbacks he made
*edit* The guy was also 40, maybe he was a virgin?
Post by: belke on May 02, 2007, 08:22:00 PM
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Post by: RiPpN-N-TrIppN on May 02, 2007, 09:27:00 PM
its funny how pirates of the sea and pirates of software all end up the same
both end up with some one putting something up there arse either in jail or on the 7 seas
ha
bloody pirates
Post by: jaygould30 on May 02, 2007, 09:43:00 PM
How bout the obvious underage drinking/sex/drugs/etc. that the government knows some of these Hollywood stars are doing. How bout those Olsen twins? Brittany Spears? Lindsay Lohan? Need I even go on. Yea everyone in the world sees these people doing drugs or drinking underage or whatever, some even going into rehab, but no criminal charges ever. Funny stuff.
And how bout the government themselves. You know here in New Jersey the Governor can cause an accident while not wearing a seatbelt and get away with no points or tickets? Yet someone like me who drives over to Philly everyday, who drives safe all the time, gets his car towed away because someone decides I'm not far enough away from an Amtrak transformer even though theres no sign that clearly explains how far your suppose to be away (for the record I was over 2 car length away). Great stuff isn't it!
I'm not saying that pirating should be overlooked or anything. I'm just saying that the way the law is enforced on a global scale is totally unfair. Certain types of people are always targeted for these crimes. You think if he had a family and some kids that they would come down in him that hard? I'd have to say probably not. Do you think that if he was someone special he would get a pass? I bet so. And you think if the government was making some type of money off of this (like the drug world) they would be making as big of a deal about this as they are now? Yea thats what I thought. No one cares about the ethical side of piracy. All anyone really cares about is the financial and political side of it.
Post by: epsilon72 on May 02, 2007, 11:26:00 PM
QUOTE(jaygould30 @ May 2 2007, 09:19 PM)
I'm not saying that pirating should be overlooked or anything. I'm just saying that the way the law is enforced on a global scale is totally unfair. Certain types of people are always targeted for these crimes. You think if he had a family and some kids that they would come down in him that hard? I'd have to say probably not. Do you think that if he was someone special he would get a pass? I bet so. And you think if the government was making some type of money off of this (like the drug world) they would be making as big of a deal about this as they are now? Yea thats what I thought. No one cares about the ethical side of piracy. All anyone really cares about is the financial and political side of it.
And that, is difference between this crime and the many others that have been mentioned that people get away with. In this world, it's always about the money.
Post by: g8crapachino on May 02, 2007, 11:33:00 PM
QUOTE(47_M450N_47 @ May 2 2007, 09:52 PM)
I just think it's funny that software pirates often get harsher sentences than friggin drug dealers. Yeah, don't copy stuff and sell it, it's illegal, but seriously, if they are gonna take selling pirated stuff this seriously, then why don't they crack down on the drug dealing? Everybody around where I live knows where to freaking get any kind of drug you want, it's definitely a more prominent and profitable business than selling pirated stuff, but it's rare that anyone gets caught for dealing illegal narcotics, which should be a much bigger concern than a few copyright violations, I mean there are human lives at stake here.</rant>
You're obviously looking at the world with a different perspective if you truly believe what you just said. This software pirate only got 18 months in prison, drug dealers in California often get between 7-20 years. (A third striker automatically get's you 25 years minimum) If you think this software pirate got a harsh sentence then you're just dillusional.
Also, news about some software pirate making ~$150,000.00 US and getting caught is unusual news so that's why you see all these news agencies running stories about it. Drug dealers get caught and sentenced all the time. It happens so often that it's no longer considered a headline news story by most news agencies unless there are extenuating or interesting circumstances behind the bust. The point is, just because you don't see headline news stories about drug dealers being caught doesn't mean it's not happening on a regular basis.
Post by: 47_M450N_47 on May 02, 2007, 11:52:00 PM
It will always be screwed up like that, because noone that would actually fix it would get into office, and if they did, all the other corrupt political arseholes wouldn't let them do anything about it.
Post by: The Zep Man on May 03, 2007, 12:50:00 AM
He also could have sold drugs instead. I mean, there are less risks (less prison time) and once people get addicted, they'll come back for more. You can't be too sure about that with 'backup' games.
Note: with this post I do not promote drug use or drug sales. Do not interpret my words any different.
Post by: rippinitto on May 03, 2007, 04:13:00 AM
just for boot legging video games!!
why dont they solve some real fucking crime
rape murder robbery etc
btw. he shoulda sold weed instead. he'da made more$$
Post by: jimbobjim on May 03, 2007, 04:58:00 AM
Hows about punishing some real crimelords instead of thowing the book at easy targets.
I'm not saying i condone what the guy did in any way.
Post by: grim_d on May 03, 2007, 05:09:00 AM
QUOTE(jimbobjim @ May 3 2007, 12:34 PM)
I love the way they try to make it look really bad by saying he had the ability to produce 16 copies at a time. Seriously, is that a joke? I'd hardly class 16 DVD writers and a PC as a major operation. Just go to my local sunday market and you'll see real pirates in action. The blokes there sell bootleg games, audio cd's and DVD's by the thousand and noone does a thing about it. Shit, there are illegal factories out there that produce millions of pirated discs a day. Had they have said he could produce 500 copies at a time i would be able to understand his punishment, but 16? I could go out and buy 16 burners right now.
Hows about punishing some real crimelords instead of thowing the book at easy targets.
I'm not saying i condone what the guy did in any way.
hah yeah you see those little stalls, and theyr around for years.
filthy pirates
Post by: jimbobjim on May 03, 2007, 05:23:00 AM
QUOTE(grim_d @ May 3 2007, 12:45 PM)
hah yeah you see those little stalls, and theyr around for years.
filthy pirates
Exactly, they're there for years. Everytime i go to the market i see the same faces on the same stalls, in the same places and not one person bats an eyelid. And i know for a fact they make more than the guy this topic is about. They sell any five discs (doesn't matter what's on them) for £10, and trust me, people crowd round them all day long. Even off duty police officers will visit the market regularly and still nothing is done. I also know a police officer who says they know it goes on. So how is it this small time crook is given the maximum sentence possible but these guys are walking free? Makes no sense.
Post by: jimbobjim on May 03, 2007, 06:09:00 AM
QUOTE(ThaJuggla @ May 3 2007, 01:09 PM)
oh, and about cops knowing whats going on... I worked at 7-11 2 years ago the night shift. A cop used to come in there all the time and talked about how he used DVD X COPY and couldnt get it to work after a while, and he was asking me all kinds of crap and he even gave me burnt copies of dvds to copy myself. He also confiscated illegal fireworks around 4th of July, and showed me his trunk full and told me to pick what i wanted. Get in right with people, Hes pulled me over for doing 60 in a 30 and let me off, hell this dude even helped me get off in court a year later cause I was drivin on a suspended license (i didnt know it was though)lol. Cops are people too, not all of them are hardasses.
It's people like you and this "cop" friend of yours why society is falling apart. What if a kid was crossing the street when you decided to travel at double the speed limit? you wouldn't be so smug then would you? If someone like you ran my kid down, it would be the last thing you'd ever do.
Post by: Steve-0 on May 03, 2007, 06:16:00 AM
QUOTE(UB6_IB9 @ May 3 2007, 12:57 PM)
Haha yeah i reckon he could have got out of most of the charges if he didn't plead guilty. If he made a proper disclaimer to put on the lists of games that he sells just saying something like, "By purchasing a BACKUP game you are agreeing that you already own the game and will be using it for BACKUP purposes only and you are also agreeing that I (the seller) am only providing a service for you", they wouldn't be able to put anything on him since the buyer takes all the responsibility. I would like to see the 17 offences they charged him for, does anyone know?
i think that only applies if YOU made the backup of YOUR game, if that was the case as stated unless he made you produce a retail copy with a recipt to prove it was yours and not some random persons that you borrowed it would still be piracy because he would be taking your word of mouth as proof of ownership which would hold no legal binding.
Here in the uk it's different i spoke to someone about this a while ago, i used to go to a lot of lan parties and they were always in the same houses so i had the idea of backing up my copy's of xxxx2 and farcry so i could leave the original safely at home and keep a bag with a pad, spare plug, av lead, network cable and a copy of the 2 games at the houses so all i needed to bring was my xbox. A couple of my friends work at game and gamestation, now one of them is a manager and he said in the uk even if you own the game you are not legally allowed to "reproduce" it even for a backup purpose.
And also lets say M$ for eg took out the law suit, if you had 100 copy's of say kameo and the fine was £10,000 that fine would be for EACH copy you are in possession of not a grand figure.
Post by: Steve-0 on May 03, 2007, 06:30:00 AM
QUOTE(UB6_IB9 @ May 3 2007, 12:57 PM)
Haha yeah i reckon he could have got out of most of the charges if he didn't plead guilty. If he made a proper disclaimer to put on the lists of games that he sells just saying something like, "By purchasing a BACKUP game you are agreeing that you already own the game and will be using it for BACKUP purposes only and you are also agreeing that I (the seller) am only providing a service for you", they wouldn't be able to put anything on him since the buyer takes all the responsibility. I would like to see the 17 offences they charged him for, does anyone know?
i think that only applies if YOU made the backup of YOUR game and you cant sell a backup, the moment that you accept ANYTHING for a backup its profiting and IS piracy!, if that was the case as stated unless he made you produce a retail copy with a recipt to prove it was yours and not some random persons that you borrowed and gave you the disc FREE then it would still be piracy because he would be reproducing somebody elses word and distributing it, and taking your word of mouth as proof of ownership which would hold no legal binding.
Here in the uk it's different i spoke to someone about this a while ago, i used to go to a lot of lan parties and they were always in the same houses so i had the idea of backing up my copy's of xxxx2 and farcry so i could leave the original safely at home and keep a bag with a pad, spare plug, av lead, network cable and a copy of the 2 games at the houses so all i needed to bring was my xbox. A couple of my friends work at game and gamestation, now one of them is a manager and he said in the uk even if you own the game you are not legally allowed to "reproduce" it even for a backup purpose.
And also lets say M$ for eg took out the law suit, if you had 100 copy's of say kameo and the fine was £10,000 that fine would be for EACH copy you are in possession of not a grand figure.
Calling 16 dvd's a time an "operation" is laughable for me to make 16 copys of the same thing would take no longer then 15 mins, 16,000 dvd's each burn would be more beleiveable for him to make the £75,000 that he did only doing 16 at a time they must have been on platinum discs or something, or had the answer to the ultimate question printed on them,
When somebody here makes a game/movie/song and it starts getting copyed and YOU start loosing revenue then try and find loopholes to make copying other peoples stuff for your own personal gain OK!
sorry for the double post i missed the edit time and after reading what i posted i realized i left half of it out, im such a n00b
Post by: 1nsan3 on May 03, 2007, 06:37:00 AM
QUOTE(mlapaglia @ May 2 2007, 05:56 PM)
cocaine comes from a plant haha.
but cocaine there is more to it, unlike pot, u smoke it right off the plant cocaine needs "additives"
this guy got exactly what he deserved. Anyone else gets cought they deserve it. Punishments should gradually get more and more severe. First one is made an example of, the rest of the world knew what he did. You still go out and sell pirated software, u get more time in prison then the previouse sine you know they made an example out of the first guy, and so on. fuc* you if you try to make money off piracy.
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on May 03, 2007, 06:48:00 AM
Post by: jimbobjim on May 03, 2007, 07:31:00 AM
QUOTE(ThaJuggla @ May 3 2007, 02:44 PM)
So if I woulda got a ticket and not got off for my suspended license, society would be better? anhh.... also too... if a kid is walking around on the street around 530 in the morning, its his or her own fault if they get hit... especially that early in the winter. Plus it was a road that no kids whatsoever walk down, because there are no houses nor schools or anything on that road, it was just a random 30mph road around my way. Also, if i ran down your kid givin the circumstances i provided, that wouldnt be the last thing id do, it would be the last thing youd do because your family would wonder why you let your kid out that early to roam the street in the cold darkness. Also, id run your ass down too
oh and plus one day on my way home from work, driving safely in my neighborhood, a lil kid probably 7 or 8 gave me the finger... so i whipped my car around and chased him , and i told him that he better watch out who he does that to cause if he ever does it to me im gonna break his Fn finger off. Watch your damn kids before they get hurt =]
jokes aside, i have 3 kids. I always watch for kids and I know when and when i shouldnt speed. Plus, its not cause of me that society has gone bad... its because of the rule that the people with the most money get the better treatment. The lil guy needs a break once in a while, so the moral of my story was, I catch breaks. Dumbass... oh yeah... people who whine about people who do stuff bad... thats why society blows too. WAHHHH WAHHH WE NEED EQUAL RIGHTS!!! WAHHHH WAHHHHH... its the same situation there... yeah i know that kinda thing, women want to be treated equal which is all good... but if a woman hits you and you knock her the F out, I bet you get in trouble huh.. its not an equal rights thing then is it? Minorities... ehh dont get me started on that... listen, before you come whining about me speeding and running over your family, check your local newspaper to find the best deal on a box of tampons for yourself and maybe some Midol... then we can talk.
So not only were you doing 60 on a 30 road, you were also doing it on a dark winter morning (that's safe
) Yes the road may have looked clear but who are you to decide nobody should be out at that time. What if there had been an early morning dog walker or anyone else for that matter? Saying that they deserve what's coming to them is both dumb minded and immature. I like to think i can walk anywhere at anytime without fear of being killed by a speeding motorist. Speed limits are there for a reason, don't try to tell me otherwise.Whether you like it or not you and your crooked cop buddy are contributing to the breakdown of society. He has been placed in a position of trust but, by the sound of it, abuses it regularly. You are no better for being a part of this.
You can blah blah all you want but i have a feeling no-one will agree with you. You sound like a complete idiot.
Post by: ThunderStruck_U on May 03, 2007, 08:31:00 AM
Post by: ThunderStruck_U on May 03, 2007, 08:50:00 AM
Wake up people and start carrying!
Post by: 47_M450N_47 on May 03, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
As to what thunderstruck said, that's a good idea and all, but if his parents are crack heads they probably are not going to make sure that their kid goes to wash your car every day. Society is falling and there is not a freaking thing we can do about it. Arm your family and get lots of ammo, it's all that will matter some years down the road.
Post by: jimbobjim on May 03, 2007, 10:04:00 AM
ThaJuggla, I see you have a suspended license. How many other lives have you put at risk because of your irresponsible actions?
Post by: jimbobjim on May 03, 2007, 10:15:00 AM
QUOTE(ThaJuggla @ May 3 2007, 01:09 PM)
I dunno, I just know that this story is one of those things thats make me scared to get caught doing anything wrong like copying games or movies... NOT.
I see it like this... piracy.. yeah it may be wrong in a way. But, is it really that wrong? Lets say a DVD costs 20 bucks to buy in the store. You pay the 20 bucks so everythings fair right? You get DVD, Store and Movie Production Company get there share of that 20. Ok, whatever...
You go to blockbuster, rent a movie for 4 bucks. 20 other people rent that same movie for 4 bucks a pop. Thats 80 bucks made off a 20 buck movie, and thats saying everyone brought it back on time with no late fees. 20 bucks goes to Movie production company, and 60 goes to block buster. Seem fair? Its honestly no different than me buying a 100 pack of sony dvdr's, and burning a movie and selling it for myself. Sony (or whatever company you buy from) gets money of the dvdr's, and I would get money off selling it. Kind of like blockbuster, or netflix, or whatever. Its all a big scam these rental places, to make money off the same product over and over. Who cares though right? Ehhh... I cant wait til tomorrow though... watch Spidey 3
he even gave me burnt copies of dvds to copy myself.
Mods please read the above quotes. If he ain't a pirate then i'm the Pope.
Post by: Master Reefed on May 03, 2007, 11:26:00 AM
I was under the impression that is why DVDXCOPY got shutdown.
Which makes everyone a crook that has an Ipod, and didnt "rebuy" the song through Itunes to use it on their ipod.
In America, its free here...for the bums on the street, everyone else pays out the ass!
Post by: jimbobjim on May 03, 2007, 11:52:00 AM
QUOTE(ThaJuggla @ May 3 2007, 07:01 PM)
look man. you lose. you should come my way and walk in the middle of the road. 60 mph doesnt matter in winter or summer. It was the fact that your kid shouldnt be walking around at 530 AM on the road in winter you dumbass. C'mon use YOUR head. And now youre trying to tell mods to look at what I posted and say that I am a pirate? If you read what I said... i said it would be no different than me buying 100 dvds and such and selling them, theoretically comparing myself with blockbuster. Most likely there isnt one person on this site that doesnt have atleast one copied movie. And if there is, good for you!
Second off, I do NOT have a suspended license. Last year I did. Why did I have a suspended license? I had forgotten to pay a ticket. Its not a big deal, just around my ways, the Motor vehicle admin doesnt inform you of when your license is suspended SOOOO, I got pulled over on a suspended license. Had I rememberd about the ticket and known about the suspension, I wouldve paid it.
Anywho... I would like to say this to you my friend. If you are indeed not a pirate in ANY WAY , SHAPE, OR FORM... why are you here?
Firmware hacks = playing burnt games
Modchips = same thing
Homebrew usually = Emulators... they are cool, but they arent playing paid for games
DVD Burner + CD/DVD = Copied movies, games, music cds
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please tell me you dont have any of the above, or I will be forced to say... HEY MODS LOOK AT THIS!!
I seriously doubt you are playing any true homebrew that is original , and playing original games as in, never made or copyrighted before... so.. I kinda got 2 words for ya...
Why i come to this site is none of your business, just rest assured i am NOT a pirate in any way, shape or form.
But basically by saying what you just said, you yourself look like a pirate. If you think everyone here is a pirate, then why are you here?
I hope you get what's coming to you. YOU LOSE!!!!!
Post by: Knasen on May 03, 2007, 12:09:00 PM
Anyway, on the topic I think this guy is a fool for selling copied games but the punishment was way too hard. Either fine him or give him prison, but not both. Where I live alot of criminals get less punishment than that for way more severe crimes. Guess the game companies wanted to scare some people and decided to state an example.
Post by: jimbobjim on May 03, 2007, 12:31:00 PM
QUOTE(ThaJuggla @ May 3 2007, 07:37 PM)
i am here because i am interested in what is going on. i myself love emulators because of nostalgic reasons, btw. i have no problems with pirates or their ways so why not be here?
What exactly is coming to me? Nothing, thats what I thought. FBI could walk right in or whoever investigates that crap and it wouldnt matter, theres nothing wrong here.
I know why you come here... its ok, I can tell you are a forum junkie and go around whining about crap to everyone. You try to get people in trouble and it doesnt work. still... you lose
Why are you back-pedalling? you have made it quite clear you are a pirate. 1) You accepted backup media from a police officer so that you could copy it yourself. 2) You stated you don't think piracy is bad and have no problems with it. 3) You asked me why i come to a site full of pirates in an attempt to corner me, but all you did was incriminate yourself with your idiotic ways.
Rest assured, i have reported you to a moderator.
FBI??? I was talking about a ban from these forums. Just shows the amount of brain power we're dealing with here.
I will not reply to you anymore. I will let others deal with you now. If you don't get a ban you're very lucky.
Post by: Steve-0 on May 03, 2007, 01:22:00 PM
and the VCR argument is petty you are legally allowed to record a broadcast as long as it isn't distributed,
Recording and copying are 2 different things
Post by: Roy2001 on May 03, 2007, 01:44:00 PM
QUOTE(47_M450N_47 @ May 2 2007, 09:52 PM)
I just think it's funny that software pirates often get harsher sentences than friggin drug dealers. Yeah, don't copy stuff and sell it, it's illegal, but seriously, if they are gonna take selling pirated stuff this seriously, then why don't they crack down on the drug dealing? Everybody around where I live knows where to freaking get any kind of drug you want, it's definitely a more prominent and profitable business than selling pirated stuff, but it's rare that anyone gets caught for dealing illegal narcotics, which should be a much bigger concern than a few copyright violations, I mean there are human lives at stake here.</rant>
Who cares about sellngdrugs to trashes? If you arrest all drug dealers, no one would gain from.
Priacy cuts someone's very deep pocket.
Post by: Steve-0 on May 03, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
QUOTE(lukero1977 @ May 3 2007, 09:00 PM)
Thius bloke was a good friend of mine and has been totally screwed over, whilst i don't condone this activity he is just a family man, Nick is well upset at this. He now has to sell his house, when really the people who should be caught are the suppliers. He brought all his masters from someone else who the way it is going will not be caught. To send out this message is like arresting small fry drug dealers and not suppliers. Flame me all you like but he is a good man
i feel for the guy honestly, i too have a wife and 2 young kids and i would rob rape and pillage for them if i had to.
To have to sell his house is affecting his family which is not right. my suggestion to you would be to offer support by finding this supplier and telling the cops.
Post by: UB6_IB9 on May 03, 2007, 07:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Steve-0 @ May 3 2007, 02:06 PM)
i think that only applies if YOU made the backup of YOUR game and you cant sell a backup, the moment that you accept ANYTHING for a backup its profiting and IS piracy!, if that was the case as stated unless he made you produce a retail copy with a recipt to prove it was yours and not some random persons that you borrowed and gave you the disc FREE then it would still be piracy because he would be reproducing somebody elses word and distributing it, and taking your word of mouth as proof of ownership which would hold no legal binding.
Well the disclaimer I wrote was just off the top of my heap and I'm sure someone could make up a more legal one to make it legal but still it might be different if you aren't allowed to own any backup copies at all though. If you say in the disclaimer that the person accepts responsibility for buying this game and also by buying the backup they are saying that they own the game then its the buyers fault since they accepted all these thing by buying the backup. Even if the buyer was lying it is there own fault and it would be just the same as if someone showed a fake ID to buy alcohol, the person in the shop wouldn't get in trouble since the person buying the alcohol was the one lying and committing fraud, the same way as the seller would get away with it. BTW I'm not a lawyer or anything but its just common sense of the laws, but as I said all of what I said wouldn't matter if the law says you aren't allowed to burn your own backup anyway.
QUOTE(ThaJuggla @ May 3 2007, 08:21 PM)
Umm... I dont post much in these forums... so a ban really wouldnt hurt me that much. At that, why would they ban me? Just because one sissy cries about something doesnt mean anyone should do anything about it. If I offended you by the story I told, you shouldve stopped looking at this topic.
Incriminating myself for what? After I read what you wrote, i took a couple minutes to think about what youve said. Ive come to this conclusion...
I do not care if people pirate.
Everyone I know has backups of movies that they do not own the legal version.
Ever record something with a VCR? Yup, youre really not allowed to do that either.
This guy got too much punishment for his crime... bottom line. Does this story scare me into being a perfect law abiding citizen? No... thank you have a nice day
haha I totally agree with everything you have said mate. People just like to bitch about things that I would bet that they do themselves. I would put money on that more than 90% of people in this discussion own a burnt game or dvd or music cd or mp3's that they didn't purchase. If you want to speed at 5am in the morning I don't think you should be worried about little kiddies either. I was caught doing 150km/h in a 110km/h zone on a freeway so does that mean it was unsafe and I should have been watching out for kiddies? I dont think so lol.
Post by: UB6_IB9 on May 03, 2007, 09:34:00 PM
QUOTE(pr90 @ May 4 2007, 03:51 AM)
i get tick off when i hear soem 1 buy boot leg movies im like why you buy when you can download for free
thear reply takes to long to down realy piss me off and i bet the download a lot beter than those crapy cam boot legs
lol I think you need to construct your sentences better so people can understand what you're saying. Nothing to do with your abbreviating (coz every1 does that) just that you need to learn how to spell and use full stops lol. Get firefox because it has a built in spell check
Post by: 47_M450N_47 on May 03, 2007, 10:55:00 PM
pr90's argument is just plain funny, whew that got me laughing good. He just completely disregards whether it is legal or not, all that matters is you steal a high-quality copy
I'm not trying to make fun of you or anything, it was just funny
Post by: DrPepperFan15 on May 04, 2007, 01:51:00 AM
Post by: jimbobjim on May 04, 2007, 02:10:00 AM
QUOTE(UB6_IB9 @ May 4 2007, 03:15 AM)
haha I totally agree with everything you have said mate. People just like to bitch about things that I would bet that they do themselves. I would put money on that more than 90% of people in this discussion own a burnt game or dvd or music cd or mp3's that they didn't purchase. If you want to speed at 5am in the morning I don't think you should be worried about little kiddies either. I was caught doing 150km/h in a 110km/h zone on a freeway so does that mean it was unsafe and I should have been watching out for kiddies? I dont think so lol.
Holy s**t how many more times? I USED MY KID AS AN EXAMPLE (BEFORE I KNEW WHAT TIME HE WAS DRIVING). ANYONE COULD HAVE BEEN OUT AT THAT TIME. I can't be any clearer than that.
I don't own illegal copies and NO I DON'T SPEED IN MY CAR!!!! I think people who speed are scum and are putting lives at risk no matter when they do it.
Doing 150km/h in a 110 zone is NOT going double the speed limit is it? Had you have been doing 210km/h i'm sure you'd have killed someone.
Doing 60 in a 30 zone in the U.K is an instant 1 year driving ban.
What really gets me is when people don't admit when they've done something wrong. DOING 60 ON A 30 ROAD IS DANGEROUS AND NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF. Trust me, im not perfect but at least i'll hold up my hands when i've done something wrong and say sorry.
You say you believe 90% of the people here have illegal copies, but that is irrelevent because they don't go advertising it like ThaJuggla did. HE DESERVES A BAN. PIRACY IS NOT TOLERATED HERE.
Post by: Steve-0 on May 04, 2007, 03:04:00 AM
QUOTE
Even if the buyer was lying it is there own fault and it would be just the same as if someone showed a fake ID to buy alcohol, the person in the shop wouldn't get in trouble since the person buying the alcohol was the one lying and committing fraud, the same way as the seller would get away with it.
NOPE!
the person using the fake id would get charged for fraud, and the shop owner would get charged for selling alcohol to a minor plus a £2000 fine and will loose their liquor licence , im not being fecasious my mother-in-law used to own 2 off licences and i used to work in a bar.
Post by: jimbobjim on May 04, 2007, 04:26:00 AM
QUOTE(ThaJuggla @ May 4 2007, 11:30 AM)
Ok first man, you cant keep saying you only used your kid as an example, cause after I told you what time i was speeding, you still said something about me speeding in the dark and how someone can walk on the road when they want.
DOING 60 ON A 30 ROAD IS DANGEROUS AND NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF. Who said I was proud? I am guessing you assumed that? Well, I am not proud of it... but I sure as hell am not sad about it. I could care less. Everyone speeds at some point or another. You cannot tell me that youve never gone above the speed limit EVER. I mean listen man, to be honest, you sound like a bitch. You keep whining and whining about how I need a ban. PIRACY might not be tolerated here... so you need to ask them to shut down the parts of the forum talking about emulators. Im guessing you already have at some point in your life here at the forum.
I mean do you honestly have any friends? You sound like youd be really annoying and stuck up lol... the kid who got beat up in school for telling on everyone who did anything wrong. Second, I was telling a story . i wasnt saying , HEY LOOK I GOT BURNED MOVIES, it was a story that happend to me. Shut the hell up with the whole ban thing... like I told you before, what exactly would that do? No one else seems to be offended like you, so go blow a goat. I mean... how stupid can you be... I could always make another email, make another name and come back right? SO shut the hell up Mr. Estrogen.
How stupid are you exactly? If you actually took the time to read over my previous posts you would see that i know the road is for cars only, as anyone with half a brain would. I will say it one more time in bold big letters so you can understand... WHAT WAS TO STOP YOU LOOSING CONTROL OF YOUR CAR AND KILLING A PEDESTRIAN ON THE SIDEWALK? THE FACT I USED MY CHILD IS NOW IRRELEVENT, I AM TALKING ABOUT ADULTS NOW. Yes the road/sidewalk may have seemed empty because of the time of day but how could you be 100% sure traveling 60mph was safe. Unless you had your cop bum chum corden off the road for you so you could speed, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Sure i speed sometimes, if you call 35 in a 30 zone dangerous then i'm as bad as you.
OK, you may not be proud but you certainly have no remorse and think what you did was o.k, then you got smug and said your cop boyfriend let you go.
I have plenty of friends thanks. All would think you were a complete moron.
You are a pirate, no doubt in my mind. It doesn't matter if no-one agrees with me.
Why don't you and your loving life partner Officer Bent go take some lessons in morality. Your whole attitude stinks my friend. Just re-read your first post, it makes you look like a bragging idiot.
Post by: Steve-0 on May 04, 2007, 05:09:00 AM
this whole "my kid" "speeding" thing has gone waaaaaaaay off topic, it deserves a thread all of its own.
Post by: jimbobjim on May 04, 2007, 05:14:00 AM
Post by: Steve-0 on May 04, 2007, 05:19:00 AM
the original topic was about some poor guy who lost his home and possibly family over something that happens every day in much worse ways, and its been turned into this WTF?
READ THE SECOND POST
Post by: jimbobjim on May 04, 2007, 05:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Steve-0 @ May 4 2007, 12:45 PM)
this whole "my kid" "speeding" thing has gone waaaaaaaay off topic, it deserves a thread all of its own.
Done. Thanks man.
Post by: DrPepperFan15 on May 04, 2007, 06:10:00 AM
QUOTE(ThaJuggla @ May 4 2007, 06:16 AM)
Simply put... I told a story, your crotch bled a little, I replied, now its bleeding alot. http://www.tampax.com/
check it out.
That might just be my signature because that is some funny shit
Also isnt this a piracy topic? Not a speeding and women's health topic... stay on track dammit. I almost feel as if I walked into a Springer moment "Oh no you didnt" where as it was once piracy then the oh no u didnt happened and all of a sudden it's an entirely new thing.. or via the springer show
*Chair gets thrown*
Post by: ThaJuggla on May 04, 2007, 06:29:00 AM
QUOTE(DrPepperFan15 @ May 4 2007, 08:46 AM)
That might just be my signature because that is some funny shit
Also isnt this a piracy topic? Not a speeding and women's health topic... stay on track dammit. I almost feel as if I walked into a Springer moment "Oh no you didnt" where as it was once piracy then the oh no u didnt happened and all of a sudden it's an entirely new thing.. or via the springer show
*Chair gets thrown*
lol i know what ya mean... i told a story and then alla sudden BAM... lol anyways, go ahead use it as your sig, id be honored... you quote pirate
*takes off shirt and shows crowd my jelly rolls* JERRY, SHE WANTS TO MARRY A HORSE! THIS IS SICK JERRY! BRING OUT MY GOAT BETTY... BABY... I HAD YOU SINCE YOU WAS BORN... I LOVE YOOOOU, WILL YOU MARRY ME??
Goat: Bahhhhhhh.....
Post by: Steve-0 on May 04, 2007, 07:13:00 AM
weather it's copying other peoples stuff, breaking the speed limit, associating with corrupt members of the law.
it's all wrong! but jerry still loves you.
daaaa, da da, daa daa, da, da da,
Post by: SnoopKatt on May 06, 2007, 03:19:00 AM
Post by: Steve-0 on May 06, 2007, 09:53:00 AM