Post by: krackheadbill on December 29, 2003, 08:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (Viddie @ Dec 16 2003, 07:43 AM) |
| if i burn a cd-r game does this mean it will play without any modding? |
LOL
Post by: brahm2 on January 03, 2004, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: The_Doog on February 03, 2004, 02:07:00 PM
(The old one was a Thomson by the way... it was crap... it even struggled reading the things it was SUPPOSED to read.)
Post by: LiquidVamp on May 21, 2004, 01:10:00 PM
Post by: lordvader129 on May 21, 2004, 01:27:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| I've found that Samsungs cannot rip dvd movies to hd where as Phillips can. And thompsons totally suck. I know most people probably don't back up dvd movies on their xbox but just a point of interest incase someone else might like to know. |
ive dealt with several samsungs, all rip dvd movies just fine
Post by: AlTheKiller on June 29, 2004, 09:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (tarntse @ Jun 30 2004, 12:13 AM) |
| To Get an Samsung drive U must know a Xbox-guru tat works at a distributor or somewhere they sell xbox and have servicetechnicians. I got a guy at PS-Data in Norway to get me an replacement samsung for my Phillips. It is also possible to modify a Samsung PC drive for use internally in the xbox. You will have too look for this info. I don't got it anymore. Hope this helps. |
any reason you decided to pull up a year old thread to make your first post in?
Post by: dbxz on July 14, 2004, 11:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (petermac @ Aug 13 2003, 07:30 PM) |
| In order to get a samsung you have to be blessed by JESUS FETUS HIMSELF ( apparently if only the chosen few are blessed with the samsung)LOL< I had to fight just for the phillips, Emagine what i would have to do to get the samsung! ( probably such Bill Gates Salty BALLS !! LOL |
haha when i first bought an xbox i got a 1.6 which at the time had no modchips... so i returned the shitbox to bestbuy and searched around for older xbox boxes to ensure that i wouldnt get a 1.6 again anyways i found a store and got a new xbox and luckly it was a 1.3/1.4 (im still not sure but its got a perfect dash/kernel versions for modding) with a samsung drive! the store has about 40 boxes left which are mostlikly the same as my xbox.
if u life in canada in the west toronto area i'll be happy to let u know where to get a samsung xbox
Post by: nkcd on August 04, 2004, 11:33:00 PM
I insert different DVDR movies, it said that I need to hookup a dvd playback kit in. Does it mean that it recognize my DVD-R (ritek and prodisc)???
I inserted my home audio CD-R and it COULN'T Recognize the disc at all by saying that Xbox canno't identify whatever, please make sure that you inserted a DVD movie, game, or an audio cd, etc.
Post by: Burned_Alive on October 09, 2004, 06:56:00 AM
Post by: rugbert on March 06, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
the model number is SDG-605, knowing that it doesnt work makes me wonder if i should even attempt to replace it...
Post by: seriouslysilly on March 06, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
i know it's just the philips and its ok, but i don't like the way it sounds when turning it on. there's no clicking sounds, but it is not as quiet as the samsung
Post by: Apprentice modder on March 31, 2005, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: enx23 on October 20, 2005, 12:17:00 AM
QUOTE(CaliSurfer008 @ Jul 27 2003, 07:56 PM)
Thanks to Kencuz 
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: The Zep Man on October 20, 2005, 12:19:00 AM
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Post by: The Zep Man on October 20, 2005, 12:19:00 AM
QUOTE(enx23 @ Oct 20 2005, 08:28 AM)
What type of DVD drive is this? (Thomson, Philips, Samsung) I ask because it looks like a strange mixture of all three. The partial serial number is: 2nnnnnn52605. It was bought in October 2005 in Europe.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: PSUPef2k on December 12, 2005, 11:42:00 PM
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I think my DVD-rom drive is bad on the xbox I just picked up from ebay. It is a Thomson, so do I need to replace it with a Thomson, or could I go with one of the other brands?
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: BXOX on August 12, 2006, 08:52:00 PM
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Lol Cali way to take credit for someone elses sig glad to see this is posted...this had got to be the easiest guide ever!!
<edit> to clarify which is the 'best', in the order in the pic, it's
OKAY (phillips)................................................NOT GOOD (thomson)................................................BEST (samsung)
Ok so your saying the Samsung is the best one? cuz thats the one I have.
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Post by: deadeyes989 on August 13, 2006, 07:40:00 PM
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I got 2 xboxes. Both came with sammy drives. Owned.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Zebes on August 13, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
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the philips drive that you get from m$ if you dvd drive breaks owns all
mine is silent and reads everything i throw at it without a problem at all
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Corvillus on May 25, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
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Samsung isn't necessarily the best.
Samsung SDG-605B (found in older Xboxes) is the best, but the SDG-605F (found in newer ones, including the crystal), has a lot to be desired in terms of media compatibility.
From what I've seen, I'd probably rank the drives as follows
Samsung SDG-605B = Phillips VAD6035/21 > Hitachi/LG GDR-8050L > Samsung SDG-605F = Phillips VAD6011/21 > any Thomson
Basically if you have to buy a new (v1.6) Xbox...you'd want to get the Phillips drive, otherwise the Samsung.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: 1hotjob on May 25, 2007, 04:38:00 PM
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Well guys, i had an old 1.0 Xbox with a Philipps drive that read everything, even books...then the box died on me...
Now i bought a 1.6 crystal box on ebay with an 250GB HDD and a Samsung drive...well, it does NOT read ANY CD-R or CD-RW (which my old Philipps read with ease), sometime it stutters reading DVD+R and the only media it reads perfectly are DVD-R...so i'm not too impressed by this Samsung-is-the-best thing...
Don't resurrect a two year old topic to post your question in.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on July 27, 2003, 10:45:00 AM
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Thanks to Kencuz
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: trob on July 27, 2003, 10:58:00 AM
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Yes, take a look at KenCuz's signature. I think its too big but may be helpful for your question. He has a couple of post on this thread.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on July 27, 2003, 11:23:00 AM
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That's why I said thx to KenCuz
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: trob on July 27, 2003, 11:25:00 AM
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I think its thanks PrecisionMod.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on July 28, 2003, 02:44:00 PM
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Ok..
Thank you to precision mods for making that picture.
Thank you to Kencuz for making it his sig (although it is too big
) as that is how I found it
Thank you to both of you as this will stop a lot of questioning (hopefully)
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: underthebridge on July 28, 2003, 06:09:00 PM
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gee.................................... THANKS
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Post by: Blind_Samurai on July 28, 2003, 06:33:00 PM
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THANK YOU GOD SOMEBODY FINALLY POSTED IT!!!!
Now, if anybody asks question about what drive they have, there will be no excuse for him......
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: * illusion * on July 30, 2003, 12:07:00 PM
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Like I thought I have a Thomson.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: brahm2 on July 30, 2003, 12:27:00 PM
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Lol Cali way to take credit for someone elses sig glad to see this is posted...this had got to be the easiest guide ever!!
<edit> to clarify which is the 'best', in the order in the pic, it's
OKAY (phillips)................................................NOT GOOD (thomson)................................................BEST (samsung)
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: brahm2 on July 31, 2003, 08:42:00 PM
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i kid i kid take it easy g-dog
besides, looks like he nabbed it from precision mods
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: FileX on August 02, 2003, 09:21:00 AM
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Yes, i have the bets dvd drive (samsung)
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: rahula on August 02, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
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cool.. now I wonder how I can tell if I can get samsung drive without actually opening the sealed box? like looking at serial number, manufactured date,loacation that makes etc. I saw lots of xbox sitting at costco but hard to tell which box has samsung. Any hints and techniques would be helpful.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on August 05, 2003, 10:57:00 AM
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lol...now that is nearly impossible...there are ways and theorys...but just open it
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: brahm2 on August 10, 2003, 06:29:00 PM
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Samsung drives can read almost and type of CD-R/RW/DVD-R/RW you can throw at it. Phillips reads a little less than that and Tommys read jack squat. But if you do not have a modchip its not a big deal, as they all read retail Xbox games equally well.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: petermac on August 13, 2003, 10:30:00 AM
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Alright guys take it from a pro i have had three Xboxs, (first:Thomson,Second:Thomson,Third: after sending it in to custermer care they sent it bact with the phillips (1million times better than thomson) it reads cd-r 80min but not certain 74-min cheap ones.
Thomson: CD-RW
Phillips:CD-RW, CD-R 80min, some 74 min
Samsung:all
In order to get a samsung you have to be blessed by JESUS FETUS HIMSELF ( apparently if only the chosen few are blessed with the samsung)LOL<
I had to fight just for the phillips, Emagine what i would have to do to get the samsung! ( probably such Bill Gates Salty BALLS !! LOL
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: KenCuz on August 13, 2003, 01:47:00 PM
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I had never seen this thread. Sup Cali.
edit: you got to give thanks to jesterrace777 too. I'm a thief.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: vince20 on August 18, 2003, 01:11:00 PM
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where can i buy a samsung drive
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: KenCuz on August 20, 2003, 05:39:00 AM
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Post by: b_killa on August 20, 2003, 06:53:00 PM
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: A.Z.BEST on August 22, 2003, 03:34:00 PM
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Many DVD drives will work with Xbox, but not everyone. I advise LGx16 (or that 616Q) drive if you don't wish to play originals, but you only need to run CD-Rs.
And... I've had Thomson, but i have replaced it with Samsung 616FEB . I got lucky I've bought one - hard to get them .
Oh, I got something more to say:
As Samsung reads all CD-Rs, all CD-RWs, and DVD-Rs, AFAIR it does not read DVD+R media (but I might be wrong).
Phillips is the funniest drive. I've seen about 7 of them, and only 2 were pretty good. Only two read about 5% CD-R media brands available - other part reads only few types of medias. Every of them read TDK D-View x24 CD-Rs, but none of them read Verbatim Pastel Discs. Also I've heard that some Philipses read all CD-Rs, but it's very rare :/. You got luck if you have Phillips reading all medias. That drive can also beep (reall 'beep') when turning on/off the console and it's really loud. I remember I was installing EvoX from a CD-RW. The console was open and I put Phillips on a hdd (just right after flashing TSOP). The drive was really moving (dancing? ) when reading the disc .
Thomson... at least it isn't so noisy as Phillips.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: shanafan on August 23, 2003, 11:50:00 AM
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Forget the stock Xbox DVDROM drives, do a PC DVDROM mod!
I have a Thomson, and playing backups on it is no silent theater. When I do a PC DVDROM mod, I swear I can hear a pin drop
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: DjoeN on August 26, 2003, 10:58:00 AM
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Also found out i had a older pc with a Samsung dvd-rom, after checking it seems that this is the drive you can firmware flash to a samsung xbox dvd
Think i will swap the original samsung xbox dvd with the pc samsung and place the original xbox samsung drive into my brother in law xbox so he can get rid of that shitty thompson
DjoeN
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Post by: anekin007 on August 29, 2003, 12:46:00 PM
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im lost, i have a samsung, well i think i have a samsung, my drive have the 2 holes in it like the picture. and mines play dvd+r fine.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Kthulu on August 29, 2003, 04:38:00 PM
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damn, i have a thompson...guess it can't read any form of home-burnt DVD, eh?
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Post by: fixxxer on August 30, 2003, 05:02:00 AM
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my thompson will read sony cd-rw and compusa brand dvd-r and havent triend anything else yet because these work for me.
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Post by: Kthulu on August 30, 2003, 09:26:00 AM
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all of the games i own appear to be 6gb in size...is there anyway i can back them up to DVD-R (which from what i've read only has 4.75gb capacity)?
EDIT:
nevermind...just figured it out...they're not really 6gb...
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Schweeze on September 03, 2003, 10:29:00 AM
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my thompson hasn't failed to read anything yet...
i think you've given thompson a bad rep...
mine reads more than any of my friends sammy's or phillips...
it's all in the individual drive, every single one is different.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Blastomy on September 08, 2003, 05:45:00 AM
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I know I'm not alone in this, but personally I think samsungs are overrated, who really needs to read a cdr. You can create multi boot dvd's to fit your smaller games on, and if it cant read a dvd+R I don't want the damn thing. I just bought another box and it's got a sammy i wont read the same cdrw that I have been using with the bios update on it, seems to me like the damn thing is way overrated.
Just My Opinion though
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: A.Z.BEST on September 09, 2003, 11:01:00 AM
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. Also think about Serious Sam, Unreal Championship, Crazy Taxi 3 and few others .
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Kthulu on September 11, 2003, 04:19:00 PM
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Sony DVD-R .............DVD/Game..................(Passed)
Maxell DVD-R ...........DVD............................(Passed)
I will probably backup a game on a Maxell DVD-R this weekend. I will also be opening the box to upgrade the HDD again, so i will check my Thompson model number. I will update this post accordingly.
My Xbox
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v.1.0
60gb maxtor hdd
Thompson dvd
TSOP'ed w/X2-4977
MXM v.9n6
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Guyver-X on September 12, 2003, 03:12:00 PM
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: A.Z.BEST on September 17, 2003, 05:53:00 AM
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. Funny . I haven't tried DVD+Rs yet.
Anyway: that drive rox.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Scud VR4 on September 19, 2003, 07:54:00 PM
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Post by: ronras on September 20, 2003, 06:12:00 PM
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Can the Thompson DVD be changed out with the Samsung?
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Scud VR4 on September 24, 2003, 01:01:00 PM
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and for the people that are having trouble with Samsung's reading DVD+R media, what brand was used?
I'm planning on doing a Samsung DVD drive swap and want to be sure that all my DVD+R burned media will work fine with the new drive
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Aron Parsons on September 25, 2003, 10:00:00 PM
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I don't see how the Samsung drive can be so great. My v1.1 box has a Samsung drive and it won't read crap; it won't read my CD-Rs (Imation, burnt at 8x) and not even some retail DVDs (LotR - Extended Edition). What's with this?
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Exobex on September 30, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
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If anyone in the UK is interested, PC World Business Direct do the Samsung SD-616BE-G (they also do the SD-616Q, so be careful).
I don't know if these can be modded in the same way as the T or F models, though.
Find them here.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: skimmer on October 12, 2003, 02:14:00 AM
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Post by: farmer99 on October 12, 2003, 10:34:00 AM
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to those who are looking for samsung drives, i got two samsungs on xboxes made on 6/9/03. I don't know if all of them will have it. I had one on may 29th or something and it had a phillips. good luck
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: KANE79 on October 16, 2003, 03:05:00 PM
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Which brand DVD drive is most common in new XBOX's? Are Thomson drives still used a lot, or are they mostly Philips now?
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Panter on October 18, 2003, 08:05:00 AM
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I bought a box today, mfg. date 2003 - 05 - 12
and it is a
SAMSUNG! :-)
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Jordanus on October 18, 2003, 02:15:00 PM
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Post by: HeavyD8086 on October 23, 2003, 11:35:00 PM
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Just bought my Samsung-XBox on Wednesday, manufactured 06-30-03 and in it's current un-modded state, reads CD-Rs burned at 10x. I would imagine this bodes well for when I install my mod-chip, yes?
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: joker81 on October 31, 2003, 11:40:00 AM
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I have a sammy. Couldn't get Memorex 4x nor Fujifilm DVD+R nor verbatium nor TDK 4x to work these are all DVD+R. I even hacked my dvd burners bios to make it so you can change the bit so drives think its a dvd-rom(only checked this on fujifilm). I burned all the discs with nero mostly movie discs if that makes a difference.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Hollowpoint on November 07, 2003, 09:58:00 PM
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Thompson drive by what this Big pic sig said. I have been useing dvd+r and +rw... Diferent brands... always gone with the cheapest on sale dvd's... never once a problem never once a coaster... Movies and Games. No problems...
Xbox ver 1.0
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: LESTAT on November 08, 2003, 07:30:00 PM
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has anyone found a way to flash the firmware for the xbox drives ?
there has to be a way.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: pavlos on November 20, 2003, 09:23:00 PM
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I just got myself a new Xbox Beast Pack and it had a Thomson DVD Drive in it.
Here's a list of the media I've tested in it so far:
BASF 74min CD-R --- FAILED
EMTEC 80min CD-R --- FAILED
GAT 80min CD-R --- FAILED
Verbatim 80min CD-R --- FAILED
Dataking Professional DVD-R --- WORKED!
Princo DVD-R --- WORKED!
Evolution Premium DVD-R --- WORKED!
That's Write! DVD-R --- WORKED!
Melody DVD-R --- WORKED!
I am yet to try DVD+R media and CD-RW media. I will update this post as necessary.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: wired57 on November 30, 2003, 09:24:00 AM
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Ahh, but there is. Thanks to the people who ported linux to the xbox, there is now a database being kept with Xboxes serial numbers/hardware that allows you to find out what drive with pretty good accuracy. Please post your xbox stats on the db as this helps others. The link to post your stats is: http://xbox-linux.so...sionsentry.html The link to look up stats is http://xbox-linux.so...onsfinding.html
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: bigblackbox on November 30, 2003, 10:10:00 PM
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hello
now i can know the version of the xbox
by this link http://xbox-linux.so...onsfinding.html
but what about
the dvd rom drives (either samsung or thomson or phillips)
is there any database that can tell
maybe like ver 1.1 mfg date yyyy-mm-dd --->contain samsung
and ver 1.3 mfg date yyyy-mm-dd -->contain phillips
etc,like that
i really2 need it pls
thanks a lot
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: needabeer on December 01, 2003, 03:27:00 AM
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I've got a Thomson and from what I am understanding is not a good thing. I am about to mod my xbox just so I can make copies of my own games onto the HD. Do I need to worry about the drive now or just wait and see if it fails. I plan to ise Slayers install program with a Xecuter chip. Thanks for any help. Oh yeah I know that have either a v1.2 or 1.3 xbox if it makes a difference.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on December 04, 2003, 07:12:00 PM
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Ritek DVD-R
Memorex CD-RW
Verbatim DVD-R
Sony DVD+RW
Princo DVD-R
all worked koo in my xbox...CD-RW's are iffy
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: MajesticTrout on December 05, 2003, 08:03:00 AM
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If you're having problems burning media that should work, you should find out if new firmware has been released for your burner. I have a Lite-On DVD+-r/rw drive and they recently released a new firmware that "Improves the readability of recorded discs when the intended use is for playback in a DVD player or a XBOX machine." It's worth a shot.
You can get firmware for Lite-On drives at www.liteonit.com/ODD/english/english-load-firmware.htm
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on December 05, 2003, 02:37:00 PM
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To whoever emailed me about getting them the illegal firmware:
No no and no
Please don't email me asking questions about me getting you something or asking xbox questions as I will just delete...the forums and IRC chan are there for a reason...
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: dreamcast2001 on December 06, 2003, 10:32:00 PM
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i just replaced my dvd drive from thomson to samsung model no. sdg 605 ..i still have the same problem i cant play some of my games especially Top Spin..i had the game playing for a while but after i switched off the unit and switch it back on it wont play anymore..could this be a bad burned disc but it works well at my friends xbox with samsung drive..but the other game no problem at all ( i am using princo disc)
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: dreamcast2001 on December 07, 2003, 02:01:00 AM
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this is one of those days when nothing works for me ..like i said i replace my dvd drive to a samsung ( wich everyone recommended) ans still wont play some of my discs..how frustrating it was for me today..could it be now the tyoe of model i am using??or the way the disc got burned?? but like i said this games works on my pals machine..y me???????
help pls..
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: atombomb on December 08, 2003, 09:28:00 AM
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My Phillips original DVD-reader is broken.
Can i use a PC DVD-reader ?
T.S.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: dreamcast2001 on December 11, 2003, 03:28:00 AM
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finally i got my xbox working properly..after all that..i thought after replacing the thomson to samsung wont fix my problem at all ..but it turn out that my mod chip just needed to be flashed..all ok now my samsung drive is awesome no problem and it loads really fast..got to go and play prince of persia!!!
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: nothingisttrue on December 13, 2003, 04:30:00 AM
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you go to electronics boutique buy a used one tell em you want to check out the drive . i did it went through 5 of em before i found one with samsung but their usally cool there and dont give a shit.there 130 used there now i think
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: shaggymcp on December 14, 2003, 10:05:00 AM
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Here is my question..... has anyone taken there Xbox back to best buy, and do they give you any shit over it or do they just exchange it on the spot no questions asked. Also what do you think my chances are for returning it and getting a Samsung drive ? I was told that all the holiday bundles with Tetris and Star wars came with samsung drive but I guess they were wrong.....
Also can anyone with a thompson and a Samsung, confirm this for me. I have the movie True Lies and I can watch the moive all the way up to the point where Arnolds wife gets interigated by Arnold and his partner, and then the movie starts to freeze up and it won't play. I also skipped ahead a few chapters and it will continue to play. can anyone else with true lies try this and post what dvd drive you have as well. I want to know if it is just somthing wrong with the thompson drive or my xbox.
Thx for any help
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Viddie on December 15, 2003, 09:43:00 PM
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if i burn a cd-r game does this mean it will play without any modding?
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Skate-Zilla on December 16, 2003, 02:58:00 PM
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EDIT #2 : I Found this though..
http://search.ebay.c...ry=XBOX SAMSUNG
And THis Page is Good Too:
http://www.llamma.co...ement_parts.htm
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: STAPTEP on December 17, 2003, 11:00:00 PM
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What is result with Philips firmwareed?
Does he show better results with dif. media?
/////Dec.18
How to do this with this 128Kb file (Philips) How to use this MtkWinFlash.exe! FTP!?!
I try to find some tutorial anyone knows?
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: cabshield on December 18, 2003, 02:11:00 PM
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do all new version xbox's come with samsung drives or is it still the range of 3
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: holbry on December 21, 2003, 05:33:00 AM
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I was going to buy a disk drive that would play burnt cd's. There are 2 that I found a SAMSUNG 616T and a Samsung
SDG-605 Can you please post which one is better and why...Thanks
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Skate-Zilla on December 21, 2003, 06:50:00 PM
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One Of Them is a Retired Design, and Requires a ATA100 Cable.. 616t I think.. and its really the same model but the 616t was built for the PC. and the User Flashed the ROM with the XBOX Rom... To Make it Xbox Compatible... and It Requires a DC 5v HDD Power Splitter to split the power form the HDD Power Cable to Both the HDD and The DVDROM Cuz it uses the Standard PC Power Connections instead of the XBOX MultiCable Etc.
Im Gonna Wait Till my Warranty Expires then Switch the DVD Rom and Add Some Better Cooling Fans to the GPU/CPU and Re-DO the Top Casing to Allow More Efficient Cooling.
Funny Microsfot Put a ATA100 Controller in the Box But only ATA66 CD/HDD
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: Bar81 on December 24, 2003, 05:22:00 AM
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Well, I'm not sure why the Thompson drives get such a bad rap as mine has been great in media compatability. It reads my DVD+Rs burned at 8x and CD-RW (non-virgin) but not cdr. The only thing that sucks is it's a first gen JP LE xbox so the damn drive leaves tiny circular scratches on the discs that don't affect gameplay but could annoy you if you play your originals (I use backups so doesn't matter)
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: shadow563 on December 24, 2003, 12:11:00 PM
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i bought one from lookformeb and he said it had a samsung, and it is a new one. So I think yes
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: lookformeb on December 26, 2003, 07:51:00 AM
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Not all... but most of the new Xboxes have had Samsungs. I actually have a client who wants a Thomson specifically and I'm having a hard time finding one.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: talitiga on December 27, 2003, 03:49:00 AM
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I've found that Samsungs cannot rip dvd movies to hd where as Phillips can. And thompsons totally suck. I know most people probably don't back up dvd movies on their xbox but just a point of interest incase someone else might like to know.
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Title: Is It A Thomson, Philips, Or Samsung?
Post by: akillamuthafucca on December 27, 2003, 03:46:00 PM
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I jusy purcheased 10 xbox's with manufacture dates of 6 30 03 how do I know without openeing the box if its a sammy look I donot want to open the cardboard box itself so can I tell or not
Post by: PSUPef2k on December 12, 2005, 11:42:00 PM
Post by: BXOX on August 12, 2006, 08:52:00 PM
QUOTE(brahm2 @ Jul 30 2003, 01:34 PM) 
Lol Cali way to take credit for someone elses sig
glad to see this is posted...this had got to be the easiest guide ever!!<edit> to clarify which is the 'best', in the order in the pic, it's
OKAY (phillips)................................................NOT GOOD (thomson)................................................BEST (samsung)
Ok so your saying the Samsung is the best one? cuz thats the one I have.
Post by: deadeyes989 on August 13, 2006, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: Zebes on August 13, 2006, 08:08:00 PM
mine is silent and reads everything i throw at it without a problem at all
Post by: Corvillus on May 25, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
Samsung SDG-605B (found in older Xboxes) is the best, but the SDG-605F (found in newer ones, including the crystal), has a lot to be desired in terms of media compatibility.
From what I've seen, I'd probably rank the drives as follows
Samsung SDG-605B = Phillips VAD6035/21 > Hitachi/LG GDR-8050L > Samsung SDG-605F = Phillips VAD6011/21 > any Thomson
Basically if you have to buy a new (v1.6) Xbox...you'd want to get the Phillips drive, otherwise the Samsung.
Post by: 1hotjob on May 25, 2007, 04:38:00 PM
QUOTE(Harlock_Gbase @ May 25 2007, 10:39 AM)
Well guys, i had an old 1.0 Xbox with a Philipps drive that read everything, even books...then the box died on me...
Now i bought a 1.6 crystal box on ebay with an 250GB HDD and a Samsung drive...well, it does NOT read ANY CD-R or CD-RW (which my old Philipps read with ease), sometime it stutters reading DVD+R and the only media it reads perfectly are DVD-R...so i'm not too impressed by this Samsung-is-the-best thing...Don't resurrect a two year old topic to post your question in.
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on July 27, 2003, 10:45:00 AM
Thanks to Kencuz
Post by: trob on July 27, 2003, 10:58:00 AM
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on July 27, 2003, 11:23:00 AM
Post by: trob on July 27, 2003, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on July 28, 2003, 02:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (trob @ Jul 27 2003, 12:25 PM) |
| I think its thanks PrecisionMod. |
Ok..
Thank you to precision mods for making that picture.
Thank you to Kencuz for making it his sig (although it is too big
) as that is how I found itThank you to both of you as this will stop a lot of questioning (hopefully
)
Post by: underthebridge on July 28, 2003, 06:09:00 PM
Post by: Blind_Samurai on July 28, 2003, 06:33:00 PM
Now, if anybody asks question about what drive they have, there will be no excuse for him......
Post by: * illusion * on July 30, 2003, 12:07:00 PM
Post by: brahm2 on July 30, 2003, 12:27:00 PM
glad to see this is posted...this had got to be the easiest guide ever!!<edit> to clarify which is the 'best', in the order in the pic, it's
OKAY (phillips)................................................NOT GOOD (thomson)................................................BEST (samsung)
Post by: brahm2 on July 31, 2003, 08:42:00 PM
| QUOTE (CaliSurfer008 @ Jul 31 2003, 11:09 AM) |
uhhh I already thanked KenCuz  |
i kid i kid take it easy g-dog
besides, looks like he nabbed it from precision mods
Post by: FileX on August 02, 2003, 09:21:00 AM
Post by: rahula on August 02, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on August 05, 2003, 10:57:00 AM
Post by: brahm2 on August 10, 2003, 06:29:00 PM
Post by: petermac on August 13, 2003, 10:30:00 AM
Thomson: CD-RW
Phillips:CD-RW, CD-R 80min, some 74 min
Samsung:all
In order to get a samsung you have to be blessed by JESUS FETUS HIMSELF ( apparently if only the chosen few are blessed with the samsung)LOL<
I had to fight just for the phillips, Emagine what i would have to do to get the samsung! ( probably such Bill Gates Salty BALLS !! LOL
Post by: KenCuz on August 13, 2003, 01:47:00 PM
edit: you got to give thanks to jesterrace777 too. I'm a thief.
Post by: vince20 on August 18, 2003, 01:11:00 PM
Post by: KenCuz on August 20, 2003, 05:39:00 AM
| QUOTE (CaliSurfer008 @ Aug 19 2003, 02:19 AM) | ||
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Post by: b_killa on August 20, 2003, 06:53:00 PM
Post by: A.Z.BEST on August 22, 2003, 03:34:00 PM
.Many DVD drives will work with Xbox, but not everyone. I advise LGx16 (or that 616Q
) drive if you don't wish to play originals, but you only need to run CD-Rs.And... I've had Thomson, but i have replaced it with Samsung 616FEB
. I got lucky I've bought one - hard to get them .Oh, I got something more to say:
As Samsung reads all CD-Rs, all CD-RWs, and DVD-Rs, AFAIR it does not read DVD+R media (but I might be wrong
).Phillips is the funniest drive. I've seen about 7 of them, and only 2 were pretty good. Only two read about 5% CD-R media brands available - other part reads only few types of medias. Every of them read TDK D-View x24 CD-Rs, but none of them read Verbatim Pastel Discs. Also I've heard that some Philipses read all CD-Rs, but it's very rare :/. You got luck if you have Phillips reading all medias. That drive can also beep (reall 'beep'
) when turning on/off the console and it's really loud. I remember I was installing EvoX from a CD-RW. The console was open and I put Phillips on a hdd (just right after flashing TSOP). The drive was really moving (dancing? ) when reading the disc .Thomson... at least it isn't so noisy as Phillips
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Post by: shanafan on August 23, 2003, 11:50:00 AM
I have a Thomson, and playing backups on it is no silent theater. When I do a PC DVDROM mod, I swear I can hear a pin drop
Post by: DjoeN on August 26, 2003, 10:58:00 AM
Also found out i had a older pc with a Samsung dvd-rom, after checking it seems that this is the drive you can firmware flash to a samsung xbox dvd
Think i will swap the original samsung xbox dvd with the pc samsung and place the original xbox samsung drive into my brother in law xbox so he can get rid of that shitty thompson
DjoeN
Post by: anekin007 on August 29, 2003, 12:46:00 PM
| QUOTE (snoopdoug1 @ Aug 27 2003, 07:08 PM) | ||
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im lost, i have a samsung, well i think i have a samsung, my drive have the 2 holes in it like the picture. and mines play dvd+r fine.
Post by: Kthulu on August 29, 2003, 04:38:00 PM
Post by: fixxxer on August 30, 2003, 05:02:00 AM
Post by: Kthulu on August 30, 2003, 09:26:00 AM
EDIT:
nevermind...just figured it out...they're not really 6gb...
Post by: Schweeze on September 03, 2003, 10:29:00 AM
i think you've given thompson a bad rep...
mine reads more than any of my friends sammy's or phillips...
it's all in the individual drive, every single one is different.
Post by: Blastomy on September 08, 2003, 05:45:00 AM
Just My Opinion though
Post by: A.Z.BEST on September 09, 2003, 11:01:00 AM
. Also think about Serious Sam, Unreal Championship, Crazy Taxi 3 and few others .
Post by: Kthulu on September 11, 2003, 04:19:00 PM
Sony DVD-R .............DVD/Game..................(Passed)
Maxell DVD-R ...........DVD............................(Passed)
I will probably backup a game on a Maxell DVD-R this weekend. I will also be opening the box to upgrade the HDD again, so i will check my Thompson model number. I will update this post accordingly.
My Xbox
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v.1.0
60gb maxtor hdd
Thompson dvd
TSOP'ed w/X2-4977
MXM v.9n6
Post by: Guyver-X on September 12, 2003, 03:12:00 PM
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Post by: A.Z.BEST on September 17, 2003, 05:53:00 AM
. Funny . I haven't tried DVD+Rs yet.Anyway: that drive rox
.
Post by: Scud VR4 on September 19, 2003, 07:54:00 PM
Post by: ronras on September 20, 2003, 06:12:00 PM
Can the Thompson DVD be changed out with the Samsung?Post by: Scud VR4 on September 24, 2003, 01:01:00 PM
and for the people that are having trouble with Samsung's reading DVD+R media, what brand was used?
I'm planning on doing a Samsung DVD drive swap and want to be sure that all my DVD+R burned media will work fine with the new drive
Post by: Aron Parsons on September 25, 2003, 10:00:00 PM
Post by: Exobex on September 30, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
| QUOTE (A.Z.BEST® @ Aug 22 2003, 11:34 PM) |
| I think it has to be mentioned something about replacing the drives. None pc drive will read originals, unless it's a Samsung 616T, or 616F drive (FEBB, TEBB, FRPS will do). You also need to reflash that drive with SDG-605 firmware. No 616Qs will do, no 616QRPS will do. |
If anyone in the UK is interested, PC World Business Direct do the Samsung SD-616BE-G (they also do the SD-616Q, so be careful).
I don't know if these can be modded in the same way as the T or F models, though.
Find them here.
Post by: skimmer on October 12, 2003, 02:14:00 AM
Post by: farmer99 on October 12, 2003, 10:34:00 AM
Post by: KANE79 on October 16, 2003, 03:05:00 PM
Post by: Panter on October 18, 2003, 08:05:00 AM
and it is a
SAMSUNG! :-)
Post by: Jordanus on October 18, 2003, 02:15:00 PM
Post by: HeavyD8086 on October 23, 2003, 11:35:00 PM
Post by: joker81 on October 31, 2003, 11:40:00 AM
Post by: Hollowpoint on November 07, 2003, 09:58:00 PM
Xbox ver 1.0
Post by: LESTAT on November 08, 2003, 07:30:00 PM
there has to be a way.
Post by: pavlos on November 20, 2003, 09:23:00 PM
Here's a list of the media I've tested in it so far:
BASF 74min CD-R --- FAILED
EMTEC 80min CD-R --- FAILED
GAT 80min CD-R --- FAILED
Verbatim 80min CD-R --- FAILED
Dataking Professional DVD-R --- WORKED!
Princo DVD-R --- WORKED!
Evolution Premium DVD-R --- WORKED!
That's Write! DVD-R --- WORKED!
Melody DVD-R --- WORKED!
I am yet to try DVD+R media and CD-RW media. I will update this post as necessary.
Post by: wired57 on November 30, 2003, 09:24:00 AM
Post by: bigblackbox on November 30, 2003, 10:10:00 PM
now i can know the version of the xbox
by this link http://xbox-linux.so...onsfinding.html
but what about
the dvd rom drives (either samsung or thomson or phillips)
is there any database that can tell
maybe like ver 1.1 mfg date yyyy-mm-dd --->contain samsung
and ver 1.3 mfg date yyyy-mm-dd -->contain phillips
etc,like that
i really2 need it pls
thanks a lot
Post by: needabeer on December 01, 2003, 03:27:00 AM
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on December 04, 2003, 07:12:00 PM
Memorex CD-RW
Verbatim DVD-R
Sony DVD+RW
Princo DVD-R
all worked koo in my xbox...CD-RW's are iffy
Post by: MajesticTrout on December 05, 2003, 08:03:00 AM
You can get firmware for Lite-On drives at www.liteonit.com/ODD/english/english-load-firmware.htm
Post by: CaliSurfer008 on December 05, 2003, 02:37:00 PM
No no and no
Please don't email me asking questions about me getting you something or asking xbox questions as I will just delete...the forums and IRC chan are there for a reason...
Post by: dreamcast2001 on December 06, 2003, 10:32:00 PM
Post by: dreamcast2001 on December 07, 2003, 02:01:00 AM
help pls..
Post by: atombomb on December 08, 2003, 09:28:00 AM
Can i use a PC DVD-reader ?
T.S.
Post by: dreamcast2001 on December 11, 2003, 03:28:00 AM
Post by: nothingisttrue on December 13, 2003, 04:30:00 AM
Post by: shaggymcp on December 14, 2003, 10:05:00 AM
Here is my question..... has anyone taken there Xbox back to best buy, and do they give you any shit over it or do they just exchange it on the spot no questions asked. Also what do you think my chances are for returning it and getting a Samsung drive ? I was told that all the holiday bundles with Tetris and Star wars came with samsung drive but I guess they were wrong..... Also can anyone with a thompson and a Samsung, confirm this for me. I have the movie True Lies and I can watch the moive all the way up to the point where Arnolds wife gets interigated by Arnold and his partner, and then the movie starts to freeze up and it won't play. I also skipped ahead a few chapters and it will continue to play. can anyone else with true lies try this and post what dvd drive you have as well. I want to know if it is just somthing wrong with the thompson drive or my xbox.
Thx for any help
Post by: Viddie on December 15, 2003, 09:43:00 PM
Post by: Skate-Zilla on December 16, 2003, 02:58:00 PM
EDIT #2 : I Found this though..
http://search.ebay.c...ry=XBOX SAMSUNG
And THis Page is Good Too:
http://www.llamma.co...ement_parts.htm
Post by: STAPTEP on December 17, 2003, 11:00:00 PM
Does he show better results with dif. media?
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How to do this with this 128Kb file (Philips) How to use this MtkWinFlash.exe! FTP!?!
I try to find some tutorial anyone knows?
Post by: cabshield on December 18, 2003, 02:11:00 PM
Post by: holbry on December 21, 2003, 05:33:00 AM
SDG-605 Can you please post which one is better and why...Thanks
Post by: Skate-Zilla on December 21, 2003, 06:50:00 PM
| QUOTE (holbry @ Dec 21 2003, 03:33 PM) |
| I was going to buy a disk drive that would play burnt cd's. There are 2 that I found a SAMSUNG 616T and a Samsung SDG-605 Can you please post which one is better and why...Thanks |
One Of Them is a Retired Design, and Requires a ATA100 Cable.. 616t I think.. and its really the same model but the 616t was built for the PC. and the User Flashed the ROM with the XBOX Rom... To Make it Xbox Compatible... and It Requires a DC 5v HDD Power Splitter to split the power form the HDD Power Cable to Both the HDD and The DVDROM Cuz it uses the Standard PC Power Connections instead of the XBOX MultiCable Etc.
Im Gonna Wait Till my Warranty Expires then Switch the DVD Rom and Add Some Better Cooling Fans to the GPU/CPU and Re-DO the Top Casing to Allow More Efficient Cooling.
Funny Microsfot Put a ATA100 Controller in the Box But only ATA66 CD/HDD
Post by: Bar81 on December 24, 2003, 05:22:00 AM
Post by: shadow563 on December 24, 2003, 12:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (cabshield @ Dec 19 2003, 12:11 AM) |
| do all new version xbox's come with samsung drives or is it still the range of 3 |
i bought one from lookformeb and he said it had a samsung, and it is a new one. So I think yes
Post by: lookformeb on December 26, 2003, 07:51:00 AM
| QUOTE (shadow563 @ Dec 24 2003, 04:11 PM) | ||
i bought one from lookformeb and he said it had a samsung, and it is a new one. So I think yes |
Not all... but most of the new Xboxes have had Samsungs. I actually have a client who wants a Thomson specifically and I'm having a hard time finding one.
Post by: talitiga on December 27, 2003, 03:49:00 AM
Post by: akillamuthafucca on December 27, 2003, 03:46:00 PM