Post by: Xbox-Scene on June 18, 2011, 05:47:00 PM
Xecuter DG-16D4S - Unlocked Replacement PCB - Images Posted by XanTium | June 18 19:47 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
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Post by: ichigoxxx on June 18, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
Post by: pv3nomq on June 18, 2011, 07:12:00 PM
QUOTE(ichigoxxx @ Jun 18 2011, 07:05 PM) 
cant wait.
Yes you can, you've been doing it all this time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Post by: aubrey_76 on June 18, 2011, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: Geen Rommel on June 18, 2011, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: brandogg on June 18, 2011, 08:40:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on June 18, 2011, 09:51:00 PM
Post by: chinmi on June 18, 2011, 10:12:00 PM
Post by: hondasr on June 18, 2011, 10:41:00 PM
QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Jun 19 2011, 04:51 AM)
I like how TX says this is a NO SOLDER solution but don't you have to solder the power leads for the motors? I know that's minor compared to a Nand Flash but it still can't be considered a full no solder solution.
I think this is not the final product because they say "the install will simply be a cut and clip design" so i think they will change this on the final product just wait they show what they promise a custom board not a modified one.
Post by: snake3 on June 18, 2011, 10:44:00 PM
Post by: Ninjaman on June 18, 2011, 11:05:00 PM
Post by: BoNg420 on June 19, 2011, 12:05:00 AM
QUOTE(Ninjaman @ Jun 19 2011, 01:05 AM) 
Forgive my ignorance...but what exactly does this do?...
The new Liteons in the Slims have a write protect. You can not write back the firmware. With this, you get your firmware off the original PCB and then put it on this one and it has a write protect on - off switch on it.
Post by: zyo on June 19, 2011, 12:09:00 AM
Post by: Aldanga on June 19, 2011, 12:14:00 AM
QUOTE(zyo @ Jun 19 2011, 12:09 AM)
I wonder whats the cheapest way (equipment wise) to do a IC replacement. This PCB is a bit too pricy for me
If you have to ask, you don't have the skills to do it.
Post by: stuntz0rZ on June 19, 2011, 01:41:00 AM
Post by: Kloud on June 19, 2011, 02:04:00 AM
QUOTE(zyo @ Jun 19 2011, 01:52 AM)
how much harder it is comparing to the phat lity trace cutting and soldering
They're not even in the same ballpark. I can cut/repair traces and replace boards and lasers all day and I wouldn't even attempt this myself.
Post by: zyo on June 19, 2011, 03:21:00 AM
guess 2nd hand locked pcbs are going to flood the market and someone is gonna make a fortune replacing the ic and resell them
Post by: pif001 on June 19, 2011, 03:49:00 AM
Post by: Bitte3602 on June 19, 2011, 04:14:00 AM
where is the ENABLE/DISABLE WRITE in this board?
Post by: zyo on June 19, 2011, 04:39:00 AM
QUOTE(pif001 @ Jun 19 2011, 10:49 AM)
i did hear that a cheaper solution is just around the corner....so just wait
source? hope its not your crystalball lol
Post by: lcbassist on June 19, 2011, 07:28:00 AM
Post by: brandogg on June 19, 2011, 08:20:00 AM
Post by: scottmuller28 on June 19, 2011, 08:34:00 AM
Now do we still need to go to this effort if we choose to use the xkey?
Post by: 1nick9 on June 19, 2011, 09:02:00 AM
from my guess work u would dump the drive info first then replace ic or pcb?? which would b blank n flash custom to it??
also if u wanna do teh ic mod on this get some old pcb boards to practice on. hardest part is gettin ic off without liftin pads. if you can do this ur fine... still if u dnt mess too many up u can repair em (tho aim to not hav to do this)
you would either add extra solder to help heat the bits on the legs n pads. then slowly lift each pin up clear of solder. countinue till done all way round. desolder braid to clean up solder used to lift pins. clean up n put touch of flux on pads. line up new ic n tap couners into place. then flood with solder n use solder braid to clean up excess. inspect each pin for bridges (under good light helps as the solder shins) hell if ur keen multimetre each leg to each other...
tho myself i will be usin air station to remove teh ics. just explainin other way which can b done with iron only....
another hint too. if u get a bridge u cant get. sometimes u can get more solder off by adding more due to the flux and other solder will follow it so to speak (play with solider n u no wat i mean). so if u get bit stuck just add more n use desolder again. but make sure wen addin more that its meltin the stuck bit too n not just cold join on top of it.
Post by: pif001 on June 19, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE(zyo @ Jun 19 2011, 11:39 AM)
source? hope its not your crystalball lol
source is previous threads and ozmodchips website!
Post by: Aldanga on June 19, 2011, 04:26:00 PM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Jun 19 2011, 08:20 AM)
Why is anyone concerned with removing the IC from the board? Dump your firmware, flash it to this new board...no need to remove the IC. Unless I'm horribly mistaken.
It's not this board. They're talking about the replacement chip which is also being released for about $20. You can either replace the chip or replace the board.
Post by: Ubergeek on June 19, 2011, 05:10:00 PM
QUOTE(Bitte3602 @ Jun 19 2011, 11:14 AM)
Please can someone tell me about this photo
where is the ENABLE/DISABLE WRITE in this board?
I'm kinda certain that there will be instructions.
QUOTE(brandogg @ Jun 19 2011, 03:20 PM)
Why is anyone concerned with removing the IC from the board? Dump your firmware, flash it to this new board...no need to remove the IC. Unless I'm horribly mistaken.
Two different products. There is the IC replacement + another addon kit that is for professional installers / solderers for $19.99. Then there is this very simple replacement PCB that is no solder, no cuts, no messing about for $59.95.
QUOTE(TheGlow @ Jun 19 2011, 03:22 PM)
Yea, seems when people say no solder, if theres a 10% portion of the PCB you dont have to solder anything, thats the "solderless" portion..
It's advertised as solderless / no solder. Not 1% solder, or 10% solder - but no solder. That means no soldering. at all. QUOTE(1nick9 @ Jun 19 2011, 04:02 PM)
from my guess work u would dump the drive info first then replace ic or pcb?? which would b blank n flash custom to it??
Not really guess work as thats exactley how you are told to do it
Dump the original and then flash the replacement. Simple.QUOTE(ruciz @ Jun 19 2011, 04:32 PM)
The issue at hand, the non-WE chip we are swapping (and built new boards for) should support a blank vendor mode - or boot with 0x72 status. meaning that all 225 and 401 drives WILL be flashable without X360USB - just like the 9405 drives are - after this required mod. Yay. If not C4e is trying to make some extra $$ by forcing the sale of X360USB. From what I know 225 will spit their key out on a via but won't write... this chip should fix that.
3 points here.
1. What does this board and the X360USB PRO have to do wuth c4E ? Nothing. So this hint at a "conspiracy" is nonsense.
2. Lets say it wasn't nonsense and that was exactley the case. So what ? he deserves every dime.
3. The whole VIA situation not working correctly is not something that was forced or manufactured by anyone other than the design by Liteon themselves causing that problem. I will confirm to you though that replacement pcb was made to work with VIA cards both reading and writing.
Hope this answers some questions.
Post by: ProphetOfPain on June 19, 2011, 06:09:00 PM
Personally, I'm in this thread because I have other who want their slims back up fast. If I didn't want to purchase one of these pcb's I wouldn't be in this thread (hint).
Post by: Ubergeek on June 19, 2011, 06:31:00 PM
QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ Jun 20 2011, 01:09 AM)
I get 100% solderless should mean you don't need a solder iron, but for anyone who can't solder things such as a few wires to pads what kind of mods are you comfortable with? Atleast take some old boards and try. I see some people act like if you have to plug in a solder iron all hell breaks loose. What's up with that.
Personally, I'm in this thread because I have other who want their slims back up fast. If I didn't want to purchase one of these pcb's I wouldn't be in this thread (hint).
it is 100% solderless.
Post by: ruciz on June 19, 2011, 07:49:00 PM
QUOTE(Ubergeek @ Jun 20 2011, 12:10 AM)
3 points here.
1. What does this board and the X360USB PRO have to do wuth c4E ? Nothing. So this hint at a "conspiracy" is nonsense.
2. Lets say it wasn't nonsense and that was exactley the case. So what ? he deserves every dime.
3. The whole VIA situation not working correctly is not something that was forced or manufactured by anyone other than the design by Liteon themselves causing that problem. I will confirm to you though that replacement pcb was made to work with VIA cards both reading and writing.
Hope this answers some questions.
LMAO. awesome points. You confirmed exactly what I was saying.
The LiteOn design 'problem' is NOTHING can write to the boards.. They initially told us VIA WON'T WORK! GET X360USB then install a soldered mod! Ha! Its a simple one right??
just my 2 cents, this is all for not come next dashboard update. I have a feeling they will update AP tables, which means unlocking the drive to write them, which means the sata will be sniffed and the unlock 'key' method reversed... I could very well be wrong as right with this, but it makes logical sense considering a whole REPLACEMENT board was designed and developed to remove this problem that can clearly be done with software...
I'm very interested to see how the next dashboard update that tries to write to a 225/401 with a replacement board likes being locked out. Something tells me this will be problematic.
Post by: brandogg on June 19, 2011, 11:15:00 PM
Post by: 1nick9 on June 20, 2011, 02:03:00 AM
QUOTE(ruciz @ Jun 19 2011, 04:32 PM)
To swap the chip you'll need a soldering station. Your 15w iron and braid won't do this one. Watch some youtube videos for epoxy removal and SMT replacement and you'll see the gear needed to do it trouble-free (and quickly)
@1nick9 - Really? You advise people to painstakingly lift each individual pin, all 60 of them, and repair the pads as needed, to painstakingly deal with ripped traces and bridges? use hot air at the least, anyone using an iron for this is asking for trouble and wasting their time. Pay someone $40 who know what they are doing with the correct gear. If not, Make sure you have a spare board as reference and lots of spare time when the rest of the board falls apart. so you can figure out if thats supposed to be shorted or where that pad actually goes.
didnt giv epoxy a throught, just heat n peal that shit off pain stakin slowly. and yes i do advise ppl to do it afer some practice... how the hell do u think i was doin the 128mb ram mod to the 1st xbox?? 15yr old gotta make do with wat they can
til they can afford the air station. and u dnt lift with force. u wait til the legs r free movin as it wnt stick to the pads. if u try to lift against the solder u will rip traces for sure. and yeh this mod will b more econmoical for me as 20 compaird to 75... rest is just my time stuffin round which shouldnt b more than 30mins -hr seein there epoxy. tho i can see how many ppl will go for this pcb replacement just sayin might as well hav a crack after u dump ur info off it n see if u can get ic off without liftin a pad if so then order the ic as installin em is piece of piss.... its takin em off with no damage to pcb that is the hard part.Edit: and that sounds like some nasty soldering skills u got there. obiviously if ur novis dnt try this but if ur confident in soldering, modded ps2 or d2c wii chipset (with d2ckey) hell even the d2b that had the legs cut.. patients is everything as in soldering if u dnt over heat anything. everything can b undone. thats wat desolder braids for n pumbs... but if u damage ur board... well its bugged but if ur not sure and u got ur drive key n info dumped why not try before ordering the pcb??? ic lot cheaper. and u might surpize urself with wat u can solder with abit of practice and just the iron(tho personally a good temp controlled station is a must if ur gonna get serious) just my 2cents.
Post by: OggyUK on June 20, 2011, 04:29:00 AM
The challenges are stored in the nand, the response, on the disc.
Post by: honda4eternity on June 20, 2011, 07:34:00 AM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Jun 20 2011, 12:15 AM)
It can't be 100% solderless, unless if includes the tray motor as well. So, technically it has 5 solder points, but they are sub-novice level solder points. Anyway, replacing an IC isn't the hardest thing in the world, as long as you don't bend any of the legs in the process. Remove with a heatgun and suction tool, clean off and replace solder on the pads, blah blah blah. I think it's easier than repairing traces (like bottom of the 360 motherboard traces).
From team xecuter site - "it will be completely solderless the install will simply be a cut and clip design."
hxxp://team-xecuter.com/xecuter-dg-16d4s-unlocked-replacement-pcb-update/
Somthing like this -
hxxp://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2104093
Post by: smakusdod2 on June 20, 2011, 12:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Aldanga @ Jun 19 2011, 07:14 AM)
If you have to ask, you don't have the skills to do it.
Really? This kind of attitude kills the community here. And you're a moderator? Wow.
Post by: Ubergeek on June 20, 2011, 05:24:00 PM
QUOTE(brandogg @ Jun 20 2011, 06:15 AM)
It can't be 100% solderless, unless if includes the tray motor as well. So, technically it has 5 solder points, but they are sub-novice level solder points. Anyway, replacing an IC isn't the hardest thing in the world, as long as you don't bend any of the legs in the process. Remove with a heatgun and suction tool, clean off and replace solder on the pads, blah blah blah. I think it's easier than repairing traces (like bottom of the 360 motherboard traces).
so you are someone who says on one hand that is impossible for it to be 100% solderless (even though its been quoted several times that it is and exactly how) yet you think that removing the epoxy and replacing the IC is a price of cake ?
You gotta laugh
Post by: Aldanga on June 20, 2011, 05:25:00 PM
QUOTE(smakusdod2 @ Jun 20 2011, 12:26 PM)
Really? This kind of attitude kills the community here. And you're a moderator? Wow.
Actually it's the kind of attitude that saves people from screwing up their hardware. If you don't have the knowledge to understand exactly what the process entails, I'd bet almost anything you don't have the skills to perform the operation. If you do have the skills to do it, you either already know what you'll need or can easily find it out.
Post by: Ubergeek on June 20, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
QUOTE(ruciz @ Jun 20 2011, 02:49 AM)
LMAO. awesome points. You confirmed exactly what I was saying.
The LiteOn design 'problem' is NOTHING can write to the boards.. They initially told us VIA WON'T WORK! GET X360USB then install a soldered mod! Ha! Its a simple one right??
just my 2 cents, this is all for not come next dashboard update. I have a feeling they will update AP tables, which means unlocking the drive to write them, which means the sata will be sniffed and the unlock 'key' method reversed... I could very well be wrong as right with this, but it makes logical sense considering a whole REPLACEMENT board was designed and developed to remove this problem that can clearly be done with software...
I'm very interested to see how the next dashboard update that tries to write to a 225/401 with a replacement board likes being locked out. Something tells me this will be problematic.
Actually it was said that VIA can't read the 0225 boards, but works perfectly with the X360USB PRO as it was designed to work - which is still correct
The new board isn't an 0225 board - its custom made and can work with VIA
and you then talk about the unlock key being reversed ? what unlock key ? Seriously you have absolutley no idea what you are talking about so its best for you to not comment on these things as you will just be posting garbage and confusing other beginners or confusing those who are looking for correct information.
Post by: xc1234 on June 20, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
the cost of an entire replacement drive on eBay is 59.99
food for thought
Post by: sudeki300 on June 24, 2011, 06:31:00 PM
Post by: ccfman2004 on June 24, 2011, 06:55:00 PM
QUOTE(sudeki300 @ Jun 25 2011, 01:31 AM)
am i right in thinking this can be flashed without the probing and other methods, just straight flash via sata. i don't have all the gizmo's for flashing as i usually send it off to be done. if this can be flashed out of the box without probing and trace cutting then i might give it a shot. just ordered one just have to wait for the seller to get the stock...................sudeki300
You still have to have a dump (or at least the key) from the original drive as these PCB boards come blank. As far as I know, the Lite-On slim drives don't need trace cutting to get the key.
Post by: BoNg420 on June 28, 2011, 07:07:00 AM
QUOTE(crackalac @ Jun 21 2011, 01:42 PM)
this WP on this PCB can be enabled or disabled with a switch. If you buy a replacement drive (9504) and MS decides to enable the WP at any point in time you will be buying this PCB anyway, so why not just get it now?
I thought the WP was hardware and not software.
Post by: ccfman2004 on June 28, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Jun 28 2011, 02:07 PM)
I thought the WP was hardware and not software.
It is. From what I understand the TX replacement boards will have a hardware switch on it that you can toggle the Write Protect on and off.
Post by: uN0pEn on June 30, 2011, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Jun 28 2011, 08:07 AM)
I thought the WP was hardware and not software.
The stock board WP is hardware (WP pin internally bound to ground) but enabled by a software command sent to the drive.
Post by: sudeki300 on July 03, 2011, 03:44:00 PM
QUOTE(Bitte3602 @ Jun 30 2011, 04:19 PM)
Today is 30 06 2011 my distributors don't ship to me the pcb i order and c4evah not release the firmware.... mmmm.....
the dates of the boards arriving to the resellers have changed from the 30th june to 4th - 6th july. just glad i can stop the pre-order if this release date starts to get silly. i still have the option of buying a 9504 drive for the slim, don't have a toss about XBLA and don't think these will be LIVE safe anyway. just has anything else in the past has not been............................sudeki300