Post by: Cospefogo on November 13, 2008, 05:10:00 AM
Since Dr. Madmab is working on new builds of Xport emulators I had
the idea of suggesting a new "virtual keyboard" layout for the upcoming versions.
Here are the proposals:
1 - Black with full white characters
2 - Black with white characters and colored ENTER/BACKSPACE
3 - Beige Simple
4 - Beige Bold as Love
5 - Beige Satin Dress
6 - Gray Cold as a Stone
7 - The original bundled keyboard (actually in use on all emus)
My vote goes to #1.
Dark as black magic.
Cospefogo.
Post by: ressurectionx on November 13, 2008, 08:36:00 AM
I voted for 1 as well.
Post by: Cospefogo on November 13, 2008, 09:18:00 AM
Madmab, please make use of them on your tests.
Be my guest.
Regards,
Cospefogo.
Post by: ressurectionx on November 13, 2008, 09:28:00 AM
Post by: + T + on November 13, 2008, 09:28:00 AM
Though generally speaking I like 1 the best.
Post by: Cospefogo on November 13, 2008, 09:58:00 AM
QUOTE(+ T + @ Nov 13 2008, 03:04 PM) 
Why not make the virtual keyboard the same colour as the original keyboard on the system being emulated? That would be cool.
Though generally speaking I like 1 the best.
Hey +T+...
Nice to hear from you!
Your suggestion is okay for me.
I just need some help to figure out what are the different colors for the different systems
and then I can try to reproduce the feeling. I can try also to include some special chars
reflecting the respective special chars that some of the older systems could have.
C64 has Commodore key, isn't it? Where is it placed?
Let me browse Google for some refreshing information.
Regards,
Cospefogo.
Post by: + T + on November 13, 2008, 01:19:00 PM
The keys were a dark brown colour.
Post by: Cospefogo on November 13, 2008, 01:23:00 PM
Madmab, a question:
On the actual Keyboard PNG --- May I add some extra "area" outside the keyboard keys?
This way I can try to reproduce a nice "real" commodore 64 device, for example.
At least a "shell" outside our current keys. And yes, I will NOT change keys positions
or things like that. Just create some dead borders outside the set...
Cospefogo.
Post by: Cospefogo on November 13, 2008, 02:51:00 PM
It's up to Medmab, the brain behind the actual works.
C.
Post by: Mega Man (?) on November 30, 2008, 04:03:00 PM
I'm with madmab, I like (1) but I'm also liken the gray (6)
I agree with seeing which one looks best on the box first also.
EDIT: OK damn... I like them all!
Post by: madmab on November 30, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
QUOTE(+ T + @ Nov 13 2008, 03:55 PM)
This a pretty good pic of the C64 keyboard:
The keys were a dark brown colour.
I just realized that the bottom keyboard may be possible to use with my hacked 130xe keyboard code.
Post by: FrankMorris on May 11, 2009, 12:55:00 PM
So, maybe Cospe will make some shadow effect for it, if there's interest? I think the keyboard may not even need it.. It looks clearer without it.
Test was a success, though.
EDIT: Hard to say about the color too. I like them all. Choose whatever and it's fine for me atleast..
Post by: Cospefogo on May 12, 2009, 05:38:00 AM
I am glad you ressurectedX (ha ha) my keyboard proposals.
It will be a pleasure to see one of them working on the new emulators.
If you want a shadow under it, I can do it.
But, I will need to save the file as PNG24Bits, is this not a problem for the emulator?
Will we not have the same problems as we have on the gradient colored skins?
The one I mentioned few time ago, when we get a lot of dithering problems
in images using gradients.
Best,
C.
Post by: FrankMorris on May 12, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Cospefogo @ May 12 2009, 12:30 PM)
If you want a shadow under it, I can do it.
But, I will need to save the file as PNG24Bits, is this not a problem for the emulator?
Will we not have the same problems as we have on the gradient colored skins?
The one I mentioned few time ago, when we get a lot of dithering problems
in images using gradients.
But, I will need to save the file as PNG24Bits, is this not a problem for the emulator?
Will we not have the same problems as we have on the gradient colored skins?
The one I mentioned few time ago, when we get a lot of dithering problems
in images using gradients.
Could you make one with shadow, that madmab can see hows it look?
If we have shadow, it looks the best with "stone cold" right?
About the dithering: I don't see any? but it's hard to say for sure, because madmabs
screenies above are JPG shots. PNG24Bits intrinsically is not a problem.
Post by: madmab on May 12, 2009, 05:24:00 PM
As much as I like the black keyboard it seems like it is a little difficult to see on darker screens..
If the sample Frank sent was PNG24Bits then the format should be no problem. Cause the one he sent me was fine. Although it uses a bit more memory than the default and the stone cold ones.
Post by: FrankMorris on May 12, 2009, 10:25:00 PM
QUOTE(madmab @ May 13 2009, 12:16 AM)
Should I save the screenshots as a different format? The screenshot utility for the xbox devkit saves to .bmp and I then convert them.
If possible, save them to png.
If you still have bmp snaps, you can convert them to png. (lossless)
QUOTE(madmab @ May 13 2009, 12:16 AM)
As much as I like the black keyboard it seems like it is a little difficult to see on darker screens..
True. This really could be an issue.
Actually i'm slightly sloping to the stone cold side..
QUOTE(madmab @ May 13 2009, 12:16 AM)
If the sample Frank sent was PNG24Bits then the format should be no problem. Cause the one he sent me was fine. Although it uses a bit more memory than the default and the stone cold ones.
Yeap. It was 24Bits. Only problem could be the dithering.
Hey I was wondering, you said that you manually made them light transparency.
(which is good), but how this affect to the sun keys upper right corner? If user
presses the ex. the left button, what happens? Invisible keyboard? Maybe not?
Post by: madmab on May 13, 2009, 12:25:00 AM
QUOTE(FrankMorris @ May 12 2009, 11:17 PM)
Hey I was wondering, you said that you manually made them light transparency.
(which is good), but how this affect to the sun keys upper right corner? If user
presses the ex. the left button, what happens? Invisible keyboard? Maybe not?
Hehe... that is how I "manually" made them light transparency, with the sun keys, before taking the snapshot.
ok. For now stone cold it is..
Post by: sotu on June 01, 2009, 09:48:00 AM
Very nice work Cospf... man i wish your name was easier to remember lol.
Post by: Darknior on June 01, 2009, 09:59:00 AM
Change the Skin and update Keyboard ... it will be the top for DosBox, UAE and ScummVM if one day an update is coded ...
Post by: Cospefogo on June 11, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
Let's go with the GRAY version.
It is the best one.
It will work on BLACK and LIGHT background screens!
Right, MadMad?
Cospefogo.
Post by: madmab on June 13, 2009, 08:00:00 PM
Yes, currently I'm going with the stone cold one since (as nice as it is) the black one does not show up well on darker screen.
