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Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on January 16, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
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I've been playing with my 555 pulse timers and figured I'd post what I've done so far as there really doesn't seem to be a decent schematic online anywhere.

I didn't want any potentiometers, I don't want the owners turning the fan down. Just a simple 555 timer schematic for running the fan at a decent rate.

Runs off the fans 12V Brown wire so no need to wire from another source. To regulate the pulse peek voltage to 3V I used a common LED and it also helps to visually gauge the pulse frequency.  

With 4.7K ohm at R1 it is still quite fast and about as loud as a 360 12V Mod. Combining resistors to make around 5K ohms or so should quiet it down a bit more. You can change the C1 from 1uF to 10uF but then you must change the R1 value accordingly.


Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on January 16, 2011, 04:20:00 PM
Ahhh, I just realized this is only good for one speed. The pulse width becomes too long at lower freq.
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on January 27, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
I've done this mod for a couple PS3 owners now and they seem happy with it.

One good thing about this is you can substitute many different value resistors and caps and still get the same ~50% fan speed. Only if the frequency gets too low you will hear the fan turn off and on. Like below 20 Hz. the frequency in the schematic is quite low, I'm told the actual fan pulse is 25Khz with 20% duty which is too slow. It is the duty (percentage of time the pulse signal is high) that really determines the fan speed.

If I can get around to it I will post a ~35-45% Mod later on that needs an extra diode and resistor but it's not a big priority for me.

If anyone had ideas to make this pulse mod even simpler, please post but remember I'm not interested in adjustable POT mods. I want a decent speed FIXED mod. Users will just turn a POT to it's lowest setting anyway. I'm not making these for myself, I don't own a PS3.
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on January 28, 2011, 08:24:00 PM
Here's my diagram for a 555 Pulse mod with around 30% fan speed / duty cycle.

(IMG:http://3fixty.com/resources/PS3FanPulse30Mod.jpg)

As it says you could replace R1 with a combination resistor + POT in series to fine tune.

I suspect you can use probably use any Capacitor from .1 to 10uf for C1 as the actual frequency doesn't affect the fan too much. as long as it's between 30Hz and 25Khz.

Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on July 01, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
Here's another diagram 50% speed without using the LED. This is how I've been doing them recently:

(IMG:http://3fixty.com/resources/PS3FanPulseModEZ.jpg)
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: ricardofon on July 18, 2011, 02:18:00 PM
Boas,

gostaria de montar este esquema mas tenho duvidas quando ao 555.
Qual foi a referencia que usas-te?


Cumps


QUOTE(relaxxx @ Jul 1 2011, 07:37 PM) *

Here's another diagram 50% speed without using the LED. This is how I've been doing them recently:
(IMG:http://3fixty.com/resources/PS3FanPulseModEZ.jpg)

Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on July 24, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
I got the idea for using the LED as a 3V pulse source from this site:

http://www.horrorsee...5TimerCalc.html

They were using the 555 chip to blink LED's for halloween costumes.

Also some info here:

http://www.doctronics.co.uk/555.htm


So the schematics using the LED is to reduce the 12V output to 3.3V pulse peek. The only problem with this is if the LED ever dies the Fan pulse will peak to around 10.5 volts or so and possibly damage the fan. I realized this from the beginning and decided it was an acceptable risk. The 555 chip can handle being powered at 12V and if I remember correctly the output at pin 3 is around 1.5V lower than the power voltage. The whole reason I did it like that as I wanted the whole mod attached to nothing more than the 3 fan wires, fore convenience mostly. Now if you power the 555 chip from the PSU 5V line like my last diagram there is no need for the LED to drop the voltage for the fan pulse line, the pulse output should peak at 3.5V.


Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: tec2004 on August 10, 2011, 11:54:00 PM
you have a video showing how do this mod ? please
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on August 12, 2011, 05:20:00 PM
No vids, sorry.

I do have an install pic:

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This one is the diode version. Different capacitors and diodes require different value resistors to get the speed just right when using the diode variable duty version.
 
After soldiering I just wrap in tape and tuck in over the fan connector.
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: M37 on September 30, 2011, 02:33:00 AM
do you have a schematic of the 30% pulse mod without the LED?
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on October 05, 2011, 04:48:00 PM
No but just power with 5V and wire pin 3 to the fan pulse wire.
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: simont26 on November 01, 2011, 07:48:00 AM
guys are the pin numbers on the schematics the same as this pinout?

(IMG:http://www.johnhenryshammer.com/WOW2/willWebPics/techOverview/components/555IC.gif)
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: RDC on November 01, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
Yes they are the same. The reason they're not in the same layout on a schematic is becasue it makes a real mess to keep them the same as they are on the actual components, but number 1 on 555 in the schematic is the same as pin number 1 on the 555 chip and so on.
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: simont26 on November 04, 2011, 04:04:00 AM
thanks RDC.  Heres some pictures of my mod running with an led and no potentiometre.
I used 3x 1.8k resistors at R1 to get the level I wanted.

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Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: michelm on December 15, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
I did the fan mod for my PS3 slim model CECH2501A with the 50% pulse mod. Yes it is working but do not forget to put ground on the ground fan.
 I have 2 questions:
1) Increasing R1 is there a limit?
2) Cutting a hole in the the top just over the fan about 1 and a half inches is it a good idea. I am not sure because air will be suck thrue that hole instead of hole around the unit to cool all parts of the unit.?
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on January 02, 2012, 02:03:00 AM
Here's another schematic. This one still uses the motherboard pulse signal combined with the 555 chip. This way you get to increase the fan speed to a decent rate but the motherboard can also increase the speed if it needs to. All this would be completely unnecessary if Sony just set the damn fans to a decent speed to begin with, but Oh no, they can't make any noise at all so they'd rather let them slowly cook to death!  


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Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on January 15, 2012, 04:48:00 AM
You'd need at least a 10 watt resistor if it even worked at all.
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on January 26, 2012, 11:17:00 AM
Doesn't matter what kind of cap, both work, pretty much anything under 10uf seems to work. - Neg is going to Pin 1 (ground).
Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on January 31, 2012, 07:45:00 PM
I pulled the adjustable duty schematics. Do not use them, they will most likely have your PS3 running too hot!

USING A RATE LOWER THAN 45% WITH NO MOTHERBOARD CONTROL IS NOT RECOMMENDED !!!!  

I discovered fats, especially backward comparable run hotter than I expected!!!

I recommend use the 50% mod and live with the sound.

Title: Simple PS3 Fan Speed 555 Pulse Mod No Pots
Post by: relaxxx on February 17, 2012, 06:01:00 AM
I've observed this. It's like Sony WANTS their machines to have a short lifespan.

Anyway, I've made a few interesting discoveries but I'm so bloody disgusted with the PS3 dev scene toward DRM dongles that I'm through with sharing. I really wish I had never posted any of this information.