Post by: --DANNY-- on March 18, 2005, 01:28:00 AM
But one problem. My Xbox is boring!
--MY XBOX--
-v1.0
-X2.6 chip
-20 gb hd
-clear jewel (that looks like poo poo on a bun)
-hole in case underneath jewel
-controller activity leds ( but I wasn't thinking and wired the ground and yellow wire
together inside the controllers instead of in the dongle's to make this happen,
so it will only work with my controllers)
I am usually broke, but I just got $300. I don't want to spend it all on Xbox ish but alot of it. And I usually don't have any time, but I just found plenty of it.
So what could I do to my xbox? Oh, and I don't have a dremel, so no windows
*The first thing I wanna do is upgrade the HD to a 120-200 gb. What do you guys think of these?
120gb 7200rpm 8mb - $69
180gb 7200rpm 8mb - $81
*I also am going to use the uber cable management if the inside of my xbox becomes visible from the outside.
*I want to replace the fan with a blue led 12v 80mm fan.
*As an alternative if all this is too much work for my lazy ass, or it's too much money, then I will just but an XICEBOX case, cuz personally, I think they're badass! And a helluva lot easier/cheaper than buying a billion accessories for your stock case.
*I'm also contemplating buying another blue acrylic pc case and putting my xbox in it. I have one for my PC. I picked it up for about $40 with the 3 led fans and the 2 cathode bars, cuz I'm a con artist and I bribed the new guy at PCCLUB into letting me steal it for $40 because there was a small minute crack in the front right of it. But I can get another for $80.
Thanx for your help in advance!
And throw as many suggestions at me as possible! Your help is VERY much appreciated!
Post by: bucko on March 18, 2005, 06:55:00 AM
Post by: Big_L on March 18, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
as for your xbox.....just add a bunch of lights and paint
Post by: twistedsymphony on March 18, 2005, 10:09:00 AM
200GB Western Digital 8MB 7200RPM from a trusted site for $98
or...
http://www.mwave.com...riteria=AA31090
200GB Maxor 16MB 7200RPM for $105
I'm tempted to get one myself.
If you really want the ULTIMATE box in terms of functionality here are some things you should consider:
-80mm fan upgrade (helps cooling and possibly the noise from the Xbox)
-CPU/GPU thermal compound upgrade
-GPU Heat Sink Upgrade (especially if you have a V1.0)
-Heat Sinks on MCPX, RAM, TSOP, etc.
-128MB ram upgrade, helps in emulators, and in Linux if you use it, also I've heard you can hack some games to take advantage of it.
-If you're really hardcore you could get the Frendtech Bravo (SP?) upgrade which has a processor that runs at the same speed as the Xbox processor but with a larger cache.
-Upgrading your hard drive to an ATA100/133 with the appropriate IDE cable (dramatically improve load times from the hard drive, also can improve noise)
-Installing a modified Samsung 616t drive (better support of media and WAY faster read speeds)
-USB ports are always fun, especially if you're using Linux, Also if you have a Mega-X-Key or other USB storage device you'd like to use for your Xbox
-Internal Network router, helps if you take your Xbox with you to a lot of LAN parties.
-xIR/XERC/IR Mod etc so you can power on/off you Xbox from your DVD remote
-LCD display (you don't want to/can't cut the case that X3 front panel looks pretty sweet)
-Internal Hardwired DVD dongle
-Indicator LEDS for: HDD, DVD, LAN, Controllers, Standby, etc.
many more...
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 18, 2005, 03:43:00 PM
Thanx guys, keep em coming, lol
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 04:00:00 PM
You dont need to paint it a million colors, you dont need it to light up a lounge room or an air port.
Choose a nice paint and color and paint the box, put some suttle lighting on it a complementary color, light the jewel up. maybe do a duel hdd mod if your into playing live or just put a biiget hdd in there.
If your TV has component or RGB in and it doesnt matter if it is hi-def or not but buy adding a HDAV cable you will get alot better picturre quality.
1)Upgrading your cable to an ata100/133/166 will not improve load times from a HDD as the xbox uses a udma33 contoller. ata33/66 is the same 40pin 40wire cable. udma 100/133/166 is a 40pin 80wire cable. Never seen any speed improvements. main difference between the 2 cables is the the 80wire has a grounding wire between each signal wire
2)a samsung 616t drive when flashed with the 605 bios will only read disks at 4x same as the stock samsung or second gen philips drives. I have one in a box yes its a little faster but not alot my any means
3) you can modify the .xbe file on some games to use 128mb but it mainly helps in linux.
Post by: ahoatam on March 18, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
Click on the worklog link in my sig to learn more.
Seriously, just look around for a couple weeks, and check out the gallery. My box doesn't look like anyone else's here, but it was all inspired here. Who knows what you'll come up with?
Post by: EdwardNigma on March 18, 2005, 04:09:00 PM
QUOTE(--DANNY-- @ Mar 18 2005, 02:34 AM)
I'm an extensive Xbox software/game developer/modder. I have been modding Xbox ish for about a year now, and have an extensive knowledge of it all.
But one problem. My Xbox is boring! :(
(IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~dsdahl89/files/xboxfront.jpg)
--MY XBOX--
-v1.0
-X2.6 chip
-20 gb hd
-clear jewel (that looks like poo poo on a bun)
-hole in case underneath jewel
-controller activity leds ( but I wasn't thinking and wired the ground and yellow wire
together inside the controllers instead of in the dongle's to make this happen,
so it will only work with my controllers)
I am usually broke, but I just got $300. I don't want to spend it all on Xbox ish but alot of it. And I usually don't have any time, but I just found plenty of it.
So what could I do to my xbox? Oh, and I don't have a dremel, so no windows <_<
*The first thing I wanna do is upgrade the HD to a 120-200 gb. What do you guys think of these?
120gb 7200rpm 8mb - $69
180gb 7200rpm 8mb - $81
*I also am going to use the uber cable management if the inside of my xbox becomes visible from the outside.
*I want to replace the fan with a blue led 12v 80mm fan.
*As an alternative if all this is too much work for my lazy ass, or it's too much money, then I will just but an XICEBOX case, cuz personally, I think they're badass! And a helluva lot easier/cheaper than buying a billion accessories for your stock case.
*I'm also contemplating buying another blue acrylic pc case and putting my xbox in it. I have one for my PC. I picked it up for about $40 with the 3 led fans and the 2 cathode bars, cuz I'm a con artist and I bribed the new guy at PCCLUB into letting me steal it for $40 because there was a small minute crack in the front right of it. But I can get another for $80.
Thanx for your help in advance!
And throw as many suggestions at me as possible! Your help is VERY much appreciated!
But one problem. My Xbox is boring! :(
(IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~dsdahl89/files/xboxfront.jpg)
--MY XBOX--
-v1.0
-X2.6 chip
-20 gb hd
-clear jewel (that looks like poo poo on a bun)
-hole in case underneath jewel
-controller activity leds ( but I wasn't thinking and wired the ground and yellow wire
together inside the controllers instead of in the dongle's to make this happen,
so it will only work with my controllers)
I am usually broke, but I just got $300. I don't want to spend it all on Xbox ish but alot of it. And I usually don't have any time, but I just found plenty of it.
So what could I do to my xbox? Oh, and I don't have a dremel, so no windows <_<
*The first thing I wanna do is upgrade the HD to a 120-200 gb. What do you guys think of these?
120gb 7200rpm 8mb - $69
180gb 7200rpm 8mb - $81
*I also am going to use the uber cable management if the inside of my xbox becomes visible from the outside.
*I want to replace the fan with a blue led 12v 80mm fan.
*As an alternative if all this is too much work for my lazy ass, or it's too much money, then I will just but an XICEBOX case, cuz personally, I think they're badass! And a helluva lot easier/cheaper than buying a billion accessories for your stock case.
*I'm also contemplating buying another blue acrylic pc case and putting my xbox in it. I have one for my PC. I picked it up for about $40 with the 3 led fans and the 2 cathode bars, cuz I'm a con artist and I bribed the new guy at PCCLUB into letting me steal it for $40 because there was a small minute crack in the front right of it. But I can get another for $80.
Thanx for your help in advance!
And throw as many suggestions at me as possible! Your help is VERY much appreciated!
Give it a nice paint job and a cool window if you don't have one yet :uhh:
Post by: twistedsymphony on March 18, 2005, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Cossack1977 @ Mar 18 2005, 07:00 PM)
...Upgrading your cable to an ata100/133/166 will not improve load times from a HDD as the xbox uses a udma33 contoller. ata33/66 is the same 40pin 40wire cable. udma 100/133/166 is a 40pin 80wire cable. Never seen any speed improvements. main difference between the 2 cables is the the 80wire has a grounding wire between each signal wire....
I hate this debate. There is no proof anywhere that say the Xbox uses a udma33 controller the documents for the chip-set aren't available to the public. However the very similar chip-set that nVidia makes for PCs uses udma100. People tend to assume that it's only udma33 because it comes with an ATA33 cable, but remember it was only meant to transfer save-games not run games from it.
I recommend reading this: http://www.xboxrepairguide.com/newsdesk_in.../newsdesk_id/28
as it very plainly states the benefits of upgrading the IDE cable and or your hard drive. If you know of articles with opposing arguments I welcome you to post them. :popcorn:
Post by: Calpico on March 18, 2005, 04:31:00 PM
Post by: Cossack1977 on March 18, 2005, 04:32:00 PM
I have also got a asus ata100 cable in a friends xbox with no improvement at all.
I dont have the time to sit there with a stop watch and time how long it takes for a game to load buit i have not noticed any speed increas in either playing games or playing movies of the HDD.
"twistedsymphony" im glade you found one website who says its faster. It must me such a small difference that it is not noticable to anyone not wearing a stopwatch.
This post has been edited by Cossack1977: Mar 19 2005, 12:34 AM
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 18, 2005, 06:00:00 PM
QUOTE(Calpico @ Mar 18 2005, 03:31 PM)
If you buy a new hdd, buy a new eeprom from zodiiak so you can play on live. I have an Xecuter3 chip with a 260gig drive. I bought a eeprom from him last year when i changed my drive and im still on live fine. He has really good feedback.
My xbox is modded with a wire install x2.6, and i upgraded the hd to a 20 (i know its not much but it was enough for the time being). And I use LIVE everyday. So my eeprom is fine. If I buy a new HD can't I just use my current eeprom? Why buy a new one?
QUOTE(Cossack1977)
Just a suggestion and remember this is my opinion and alot of the people on the forum would disagree but keep it simple and stylish.
You dont need to paint it a million colors, you dont need it to light up a lounge room or an air port.
Choose a nice paint and color and paint the box, put some suttle lighting on it a complementary color, light the jewel up. maybe do a duel hdd mod if your into playing live or just put a biiget hdd in there.
You dont need to paint it a million colors, you dont need it to light up a lounge room or an air port.
Choose a nice paint and color and paint the box, put some suttle lighting on it a complementary color, light the jewel up. maybe do a duel hdd mod if your into playing live or just put a biiget hdd in there.
I completely agree, If I were to paint it, it would be either white, or a jet black (because stock is slighty greenish).
QUOTE(twistedsymphony)
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=AA31090
200GB Maxor 16MB 7200RPM for $105 :D
I'm tempted to get one myself.
200GB Maxor 16MB 7200RPM for $105 :D
I'm tempted to get one myself.
I'm going to get this one, thanx for the link!
QUOTE(bucko)
Look at Palmore's Xbox and Ben999_'s
Can you give me some links?
This post has been edited by --DANNY--: Mar 19 2005, 02:01 AM
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 02:45:00 AM
So once I have my new 200gb hd installed in my xice ce case with my v1.0 xbox with an x2.6 chip in it, is there anything that I could add to that case to "pimp" it up? I'm thinking like a couple of cold cathode bars for cheap, or maybe some el wire. What do you guys think?
EDIT:
I just came across a mini atx acrylic blue pc case. It has a handle in the front. And is litterally the same as my pc case only its a mini atx instead of full sized. I think it'd be badass to put my xbox in that to match my pc. Meh....
This post has been edited by --DANNY--: Mar 19 2005, 10:48 AM
Post by: ahoatam on March 19, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
QUOTE
My xbox is modded with a wire install x2.6, and i upgraded the hd to a 20 (i know its not much but it was enough for the time being). And I use LIVE everyday. So my eeprom is fine. If I buy a new HD can't I just use my current eeprom? Why buy a new one?
You need to go to the Live forums here at the scene and search for "the marriage theory". Ths is VERY important, or the hard drive you buy may be a waste. Basiclly, MS has a file that has your current eeprom "married" to your current HD serial #. If you get a new HD, you need another new Eeprom so that MS sees two new numbers logging onto live. Basiclly, they assume you bought a new xbox instead of modded your current one.
If you don't replace the eeprom and get a new Hard Drive, when you log onto Live, MS will take note of this and within a few day, you'll be banned from Live. Then your current Eeprom and HD serial number will be blacklisted, so in order to get back on Live, you'd have to replace both. This means your second eeprom (which you could have already bought for ten bucks if you listened to us in the first place) and the third hard drive.
So, yeah, new hard drive = new eeprom for Live. Always. I don't care what you did last time you upgraded the HD, or what chip you have, this is the way its been since November, proven time and time again.
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 01:22:00 PM
This post has been edited by --DANNY--: Mar 19 2005, 09:23 PM
Post by: twinski9909 on March 19, 2005, 04:48:00 PM
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 05:00:00 PM
Um... may I ask how you transfer them? is it just a file on the C drive? and i can just ftp it? How does it work?
Post by: SpookieStylez on March 19, 2005, 05:03:00 PM
sS
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 05:06:00 PM
wait... i think that is on disable, my switch is wierd, everything is backwards for some of the switches, like when you switch the led switch to OFF the leds turn ON, and i think the flash protection switch is one of them... cuz i remember i had to set all the lights to green when if flashed my bios....
Post by: Albino on March 19, 2005, 05:12:00 PM
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 05:24:00 PM
-Danny
Post by: ahoatam on March 19, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
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The eeprom is flashed onto the eeprom chip on the motherboard, you can use configmagic or evox to back it up onto the hard drive on one xbox, then use config magic to flash it from the hard drive onto the eeprom chip on the other xbox.
You really need to double check all this in the Live forum or the Newbie forum - this is case modding. AFAIK, you can only use an EEPROM from a same-version xbox. A 1.0 eeprom can only replace a 1.0 eeprom. IF you don't know your xbox version, then search for one of the version-checkers.
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 06:20:00 PM
And I'm not stupid, my bro's have all have v1.0 too. Remember, I've been modding for about a year, I know my shit, just not anything about BIOS's and EEPROM's. And why the hell should I go into a different forum and post and wait for replys about one question, when I can just ask it in a thread that I already started about MY xbox. So if it's a question about My Xbox, then it should probably go into My thread about MY Xbox. It makes sense to me, and is alot simpler and easier....
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 06:21:00 PM
These are the system temps after 20 mins of running.
CPU - 135.9 F
MB - 100.4 F
Is that good? Bad? Decent? Basically, is it colder than normally?
I would post pics, but my dad ran off with my camera to work, so I'll have pics up later.
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 06:40:00 PM
CPU - 140 F
MB - 104 F
How's that?
Post by: ramos on March 19, 2005, 07:37:00 PM
And the reason to post in the other forum about it is that more people in that forum will be able to answer your question then those in here.
But as everyone's said, you'll need a new EEPROM. If I were you, I'd be safe and go with buying one off Zodiac. He provides you with the EEPROM, and with step-by-step instructions on how to replace your old one. $10 is a small price to pay as opposed to 100+ for a new HDD if something goes wrong.
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 07:44:00 PM
QUOTE(ramos @ Mar 19 2005, 05:43 PM)
I don't think he's trying to be hostile, if anything he's helping you.
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Title: ~ Help Me Make My Xbox Into A True Modder's Xbox ~
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
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Here are the pics of the results of my added fans...
Here is the 80mm 4 blue led 12v fan in the back blowing out...
And here is the 40mm crystal 12v fan put in on the front left side, blowing in underneath the dvd drive to circulate the air...
Both fans inside...
Please leave comments/suggestions!
-Danny
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Post by: Larrimus on March 19, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
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Your box is looking good. Question...did your pro switch come with those color LED's or did you change them? I've seen quite a few switches with blue LED's and I hope to have mine the same way. Anyone know how hard they are to change?
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Title: ~ Help Me Make My Xbox Into A True Modder's Xbox ~
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 09:29:00 PM
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Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
Here is the 80mm 4 blue led 12v fan in the back blowing out...
And here is the 40mm crystal 12v fan put in on the front left side, blowing in underneath the dvd drive to circulate the air...
Both fans inside...
Please leave comments/suggestions!
-Danny
Post by: Larrimus on March 19, 2005, 09:22:00 PM
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 09:29:00 PM
QUOTE(Larrimus @ Mar 19 2005, 07:28 PM)
Your box is looking good. Question...did your pro switch come with those color LED's or did you change them? I've seen quite a few switches with blue LED's and I hope to have mine the same way. Anyone know how hard they are to change?
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Title: ~ Help Me Make My Xbox Into A True Modder's Xbox ~
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 09:48:00 PM
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Here are some pics of my dvd tray in with my the 80mm rear fan after I had trimmed the hd tray down to fit...
-Danny
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Title: ~ Help Me Make My Xbox Into A True Modder's Xbox ~
Post by: Larrimus on March 19, 2005, 10:23:00 PM
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Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 09:48:00 PM
-Danny
Post by: Larrimus on March 19, 2005, 10:23:00 PM
QUOTE(--DANNY-- @ Mar 19 2005, 10:35 PM)
Pro Switch???
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Title: ~ Help Me Make My Xbox Into A True Modder's Xbox ~
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 10:39:00 PM
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Post by: --DANNY-- on March 19, 2005, 10:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Larrimus @ Mar 19 2005, 08:29 PM)
Um...oh boy...I'm embarrased now. I was thinking that was an X3 pro switch. C'mon, give me a break, it was dark, the lights were in my eyes...you know...the usual stuff...lol.
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Title: ~ Help Me Make My Xbox Into A True Modder's Xbox ~
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 20, 2005, 02:55:00 PM
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Post by: --DANNY-- on March 20, 2005, 02:55:00 PM
QUOTE(flashfreak @ Mar 20 2005, 04:37 AM)
just cos u don't have a dremel doesn't mean u can't do windows. use a drill and a file, works better than u'd think, check my sig 
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Title: ~ Help Me Make My Xbox Into A True Modder's Xbox ~
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 20, 2005, 03:01:00 PM
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Here is my jewel that I painted last night, I think it looks good and the paint really worked, so I went ahead and taped up and spray painted an extra case that was laying around last night and let it dry over night, now I'm headed out to see what the case looks like ill post pics in a lil while...
The jewel looks kinda wierd in the pic but thats cuz it was scratched very deep on the underside of it, and the paint couldn't cover the deformed/white plastic underneath but it still looks good...
-Danny
Post by: --DANNY-- on March 20, 2005, 03:01:00 PM
The jewel looks kinda wierd in the pic but thats cuz it was scratched very deep on the underside of it, and the paint couldn't cover the deformed/white plastic underneath
but it still looks good...-Danny