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Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 27, 2008, 06:23:00 PM
Recommend any new games or features please its getting close

To get this right it would help if this was finished so im aware of issues
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pNr...udEQ&hl=en#

(IMG:http://www.thraxen.com/BritneysPAIRS/Gold.jpg)
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: WaCk0 on September 27, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Sep 27 2008, 09:59 PM) View Post

Recommend any new games or features please its getting close

To get this right it would help if this was finished so im aware of issues
http://spreadsheets....r...udEQ&hl=en#


Looks nice.

I have 1 request. Can you please add more filters? I think AdvMame 2x filter blurs a lot (none too), and maybe more options will make many people happy... simple 2x for example (for crisp pixels), HQ2x etc, like many others emulators for Xbox.

Thanks, and looking forward for the Gold  pop.gif
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Post by: BonusJz on September 28, 2008, 12:46:00 AM
If you please.....

What makes best Mame ....... - of course supporting biggest amount of good games (not removing options, new skin or keymap fixes)

An least try to fix:

- Gaiapolice
- sega driver (Golden Axe 2 , Spider-man ........)

New games that should be possible to good emulates on Xbox:

- Raiden Fighters series
- related to above  ViperPhase1
- Cannon Dancer aka Osman (or vice versa)

Bring back possibility to turn on/off sound emulation  

Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: run088 on September 28, 2008, 01:30:00 AM
I love this emulator it is one of my favorites.

I love the fact I can turn a retard loose with it and they will not be able to mess anything up because the old options are HIDDEN.At first I was against this until I realized that the options were HIDDEN not REMOVED.



My only suggestion would be a read me included in the emulator that described that the options were still there but only could be changed via the ini.Also the location of the ini decribing how to change it and how it works.


I already know how to do this but it will cut down on the people who assume that the options are gone and not hidden and it will let them know how to make the changes.


This seems to be the biggest complaint people have.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

This is my take on it.

They say it is made for noobs and in a way it is.


But the irony of it is that those same people are the noobs because they cant figure this much out.
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Post by: gilles9999 on September 28, 2008, 02:43:00 AM
one word one game:
OSMAN (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/strider/osman-10.png)
(IMG:http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6978/osmantz9.jpg)

but it seems hard to emulate this jewel on xbox
otherwise:
dual videos/screenshot(or flyer) display, because there are tons of games on mame and we need a fast way to see if a game looks good or not
(sometimes the screenshot is ugly but the game is good, resulting a lot of peoples don't play the games that must be played)
since there is videos support in zsnexbox, my neighbour kids are playing at some jewels
ex:marioworld, megaman x,skyblazer (they don't feel interest with the boxart/preview, but the videos give them the envy to test it)
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BonusJz on September 28, 2008, 03:37:00 AM
QUOTE
My only suggestion would be a read me included in the emulator that described that the options were still there but only could be changed via the ini.Also the location of the ini decribing how to change it and how it works.
I already know how to do this but it will cut down on the people who assume that the options are gone and not hidden and it will let them know how to make the changes.


Thats very great - edits ini then turn on emu then turn off because you want to change something  - and around - very great but on Pc not on xbox.
Ini my boy was the firs thing i have check on this emu for perfect screen alignment which can be done only there.
And tell me what people can mess up then if simple button press run the game in all xbox Mame's ?

This post has been edited by BonusJz: Sep 28 2008, 10:37 AM
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Post by: run088 on September 28, 2008, 03:55:00 AM
There is all kinds but if you must have an example I will give you the first that comes to mind.


The bios rom.
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Post by: Solo0815 on September 28, 2008, 04:14:00 AM
[Driver Fix]
As i requested over @ 1emulation some time ago:
Please add "Cabal (bootleg)" with this soundfix instead of the "normal" Cabal. The "normal" Cabal works fine, but with the bootleg you can roll with the third Button and avoid enemy shots.
The bootleg is working already, but enemy shots sounds like the credits sound (see the link above).
THX

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Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 28, 2008, 04:20:00 AM
BonusJz this build isnt for you post else where as this is the oposite to what you want.... no offense but sorry our views on the EMU are worlds apart, Bendermike is making a new version with latest NeoGeo dats etc ask him about this stuff.

Currently im looking at games that dont work right or new recommended games, and maybe settings everything else will be pasted over as just a quick glance sorry unless its really good. The next build I will learn about drivers esp OSMA Cannon and stuff like that, but that will delay this build by a month or 2 if I was to add it
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Post by: BonusJz on September 28, 2008, 04:21:00 AM
Mess not change - every f@#$% game (or emulator) have some option that can be changed - is there anyone that is not familiar with that . And again Mame is not Amiga - one button press lunch the game.
Ps: Also i see you totaly ignored my explanation

BonusJz this build isnt for you post else where as this is the oposite to what you want.... no offense but sorry our views on the EMU are worlds apart, Bendermike is making a new version with latest NeoGeo dats etc ask him about this stuff.
Currently im looking at games that dont work right or new recommended games, and maybe settings everything else will be pasted over as just a quick glance sorry unless its really good. The next build I will learn about drivers esp OSMA Cannon and stuff like that, but that will delay this build by a month or 2 if I was to add it

Im really dont see a point in open next topic if you dont want to hear what to change add - Im worry this be the same thing with new name . And no offence but  please  , document this time what have you add - im really like to check it

This post has been edited by BonusJz: Sep 28 2008, 11:30 AM
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 28, 2008, 04:25:00 AM
BonusJz sound option will never be readded sorry it is automatic now and just needs to be added to the romstatus.xml to turn off the sound for that game only, I launch narc and it plays with no sound (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) and top speed without changing any options. I do listen to what you say by the way its just I want to make things automatic and user friendly and will not let the needs of one effect the needs of many

;; Rom Status 1 is LAUNCH IN MAMEOX .72 CORE WITH SPEED HACK GAME
;; Rom Status 2 is TURN OFF SOUND WHEN RUNNING THE GAME    (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)   Currently I added any games I know of that run with sound off but run badly with sound on, like the MK Series (soon to play under another core with sound) they are listed in spreadsheet and will be added if people tell me what to add, so they are set that way by default but anyone can edit this file themselves
;; Rom Status 3 is LAUNCH AS MEGADRIVE GAME
;; Rom Status 4 is ALL TIME CLASSIC
;; Rom Status 5 is HOT GAME
;; Rom Status 6 is LAUNCH AS SNES GAME

As agreed I can hand over alot of info that needs to be docummented but im not that interested in that stuff anyone can help with this I will tell them the info and they can write it up.

This post has been edited by BritneysPAIRS: Sep 28 2008, 11:40 AM
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 28, 2008, 04:47:00 AM
There is also a 50/50 chance video previews will be added by the next build... cross your fingers its looking more likely than it was last week

also
Gaiapolice, Golden Axe 2 , Spider-man havent been tagged with issues in the spreadsheet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) so why fix them

This post has been edited by BritneysPAIRS: Sep 28 2008, 11:49 AM
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Post by: cbagy on September 28, 2008, 07:20:00 AM
Maybe look at fixing Golly Ghost, Lethal Enforcers, Op Wolf 3, etc. Look at Lethal Justice options (back & white) it has a gun offset which helps lots, could that option be added to games like say zero point which is a couple of mm out. I understand these are lightgun games and probably not your bag but im sure someone with your mame experience may be tempted to give it a look. Btw all of the lightgun games that work on other variants of xbox mame work in coinops also. Many lightgun roms arent even supported by any version which is a shame ie- V-Cop and lots of other available roms.

Anyway thanks for the current builds you have so far. For me the lack of changable options in the gui is a godsend. It stops the kids doing something disaterous.
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Post by: xyteam on September 28, 2008, 07:39:00 AM
isnt there some code you have to put in to get gaiapolice to load?
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BonusJz on September 28, 2008, 10:02:00 AM
Its loading - you can use a password or cheat to jump to first stage (sadly Xbox only support J version) - anyway I was writing about this before. The problem is that with sound its working very slow. Normal turn off sound don't help here as game then not pass self test . Still for example Metamorphicforce (same hardware) have in cheats "skip memory test" so .....there is a hope for this great game.

PS:
I wish happy searching for good VMM setting using CoinOps

This post has been edited by BonusJz: Sep 28 2008, 05:04 PM
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: lawdawg0931 on September 28, 2008, 10:46:00 AM
@BP
Glad to see this hasn't been abandoned (I know participation in the database slowed). All games that I played work fine & I added that to database. Anything I can do to help - let me know. Will look into the list to see which games still have no reports & try to get on them.  smile.gif Looking forward to GOLD!
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: xRaVeNx on September 28, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
So, after this comes out...I should pretty get rid of MAMEoX128 Plus, huh?

Is everyone else doing this? Does this also play Neo Geo Games? So, I can also get rid of FBA XXX Pro?

Is this close to being a final? I thought the Mame code wasn't public, how are you doing upgrades...


Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: xyteam on September 29, 2008, 06:23:00 AM
if you want to get rid of mameox 128plus then thst is up to yourself.the mame code has been available for the public for years.
you should keep fbaxxx as its a good emulator,having coinops and fba in your hd is definetly the way to go.
or do what i do and have coinops,fbaxxx and mame 128 and get the advantages of having all these emus in your hdd.
edit to add/yes this has neogeo games,all of them it has done for a very long time.

This post has been edited by xyteam: Sep 29 2008, 01:25 PM
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: ressurectionx on September 29, 2008, 09:59:00 AM
Hey BP,

Maybe I'll take a break from my work and look at your spreadsheet this weekend.  Is it cool if I test with your first version of coinOPS (It's the only one I have).  If not, I should get the newest version available that will work with your testing.   cool.gif

Love to see that you're still working on it, and excited about the prospect of you and NES working together on video previews.  Just talk to me about the previews and I can hook you up....

Later,
~Rx
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 29, 2008, 08:31:00 PM
CoinOPS is OK I guess there are alot of changes in CoinOPS+ I will be posting a Beta soon for some people and if you plan on spending a bit of time you are welcome to it...

I hope NES comes though I havent heard from him yet with a few hours of his help I can nut commandline  (its in just dont know the syntax to get it working) videos and after that I will look at updating drivers..... both non working ones and new ones (just need to learn it)
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: lawdawg0931 on September 30, 2008, 09:06:00 AM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Sep 29 2008, 10:07 PM) View Post

I will be posting a Beta soon for some people


Like to be involved unless it's only for a select few (or is it going to be open for all?)
I'm doing "H-L" right now.....
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Post by: ressurectionx on September 30, 2008, 09:43:00 AM
Sure.... I'm around for a few days starting tomorrow.  Let me know.
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Post by: Cyborg17 on September 30, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
More Rom sorting options, please.  Thats all I want.
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Post by: BritneysPAIRS on September 30, 2008, 07:46:00 PM
What sort options ???? More spicific please


OK the spreadsheets looking way better and the new info is alot better. I added new TABS guys with recommend to add games, gigapolic (but fix it)   and also new drivers or drivers to be fixed (Fixeight  Raiden Jet) This now the place to put this stuff smile.gif

RX alot is happening now that I have people happening a BETA will be availble in the weekend with alot of changes now that the spreedsheet is moving it bought up alot more issues which is what I wish to know.

Guys there is less than 100 games to test now finish please... add games you want added and also drivers you want added to the tabs

Cheers
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 01, 2008, 12:04:00 AM
New Visual Look at usage

what do people think...it can be turned off

(IMG:http://www.thraxen.com/BritneysPAIRS/golder.jpg)

This post has been edited by BritneysPAIRS: Oct 1 2008, 07:05 AM
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: Reza1986 on October 01, 2008, 12:19:00 AM
May i suggest that you add the following features since you asked:

- Autofire Ability
- Test Menu: Its F2 on PC but can be changed while on MameOx128Plus, this feature allows you to adjust the game settings (This feature was already in the MameOx128Plus)
- Sound Menu: Basically setting up frequencies and volume adjustments (This feature was already in the MameOx128Plus)

I think that's about everything that needs to be added unless the romsets can be updated to the latest Mame. tongue.gif
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 01, 2008, 12:44:00 AM
Sound can be done now and so can game settings ... and has been in forever.
Autofire is done as well

New settings
Automattically add a game you play if its been played more than 5 times
Show a visual representation of times played
Change the Screensaver timer to do Shutdown Dim or Picture slideshow

(IMG:http://www.thraxen.com/BritneysPAIRS/settings.jpg)
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Post by: underworlderZer0 on October 01, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
More brainstorming.....

These may seem odd requests, and might be too difficult to implement in time for Gold (if at all), but are some things to at least consider...

---"Allowance Mode"

This would be an option to limit the amount of times you can "add a coin" for each launch of a game. It would provide an element of challenge to games that allow unlimited buy-in continues and simulate the old days of having a certain amount of tokens to play with.

I remember the challenge of trying to finish Golden Axe, Final Fight, or TMNT with a pocket full of $5.00 worth of tokens. Playing on an emulator and being able to continuously press the back button to buy back in takes away alot of the challenge and fun IMO.

---"Virtual Arcade"

This would be an option to assemble a virtual arcade by randomly selecting a set number of games. With 1000+ roms, it can be a bit overwhelming whe trying to decide what to play, when that number is pared down to somewhere between 12 and 50, it becomes much easier for the mind to wrap itself around.

Another feature could be to "create you own arcade" where you can add your favorite games to the list (Really just a more "flavorful" way to present the favorites list). You could save different 'arcades' as well- maybe recreate your local arcade from back in the day (I have many fond memories from our mid-80's hangout "The Wizard's Den" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ).

Another feature could be running the "Arcade gauntlet", where a player would get one credit on each of the games in the arcade and keep a running total score, which could be saved to a list of high scores. That sounds like it might be trickier to implement, though.


Just some things to think about.


Keep up the good work, BP!

This post has been edited by underworlderZer0: Oct 1 2008, 07:58 AM
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Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 01, 2008, 01:06:00 AM
Sounds nightmarish GUI wise for the users there is allready Hot and All time classic games that are colored and be automically added to favs in the settings.... these games can be configured in the romstatus.ini as well
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Post by: ressurectionx on October 01, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
Hey UZ,

I always thought the allowance mode type thing would be a great addition to make it feel like I only had the amount of quarters my old man would give me and my brothers at the arcade.  Glad to see somebody else likes it.   I also like the "Arcade Gauntlet" idea.  Cool way to keep score with friends.  

Have to agree with BP though that the other part seems pretty scattered and/or redundant the way that you explained it.  

~Rx

This post has been edited by ressurectionx: Oct 1 2008, 04:17 PM
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Post by: lawdawg0931 on October 01, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
Would also like to see the allowance mode. The only game that wasn't an issue with me was Asteroids... I could roll the game over - (back in the day). tongue.gif
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Post by: competes2win on October 01, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
Not to be the bad guy, but concerning the allowance mode why can't people just NOT push the back button???

Request: At least the option for game settings to be mapped to the right thumbstick... Perhaps this could be set in the emu settings from the home screen? Main reason for this is because some of the xbox bios have the "back-white" combo mapped to "shutdown" which obviously is a problem for these users. It is much more difficult to ask people to learn to change their xbox bios settings than an emulator setting. Just a thought.
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Post by: RMM on October 03, 2008, 05:12:00 PM
I would love to see a right thumb click for a game save or game load.
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Post by: cbagy on October 04, 2008, 08:45:00 AM
most of the options requested can already be remapped by the user anyway, next youll want someone to play them for you
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Post by: Mr__x_ on October 04, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
Probably a stupid question but...which are the chances to see (in the future) virtua fighter 1 in xbox??
For my curiousity ,I've tried it in mame128: works with a good framerate but...when I'm ready to fight...the round finishes with a draw.
is it impossible to fix?
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Post by: xyteam on October 04, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
you can play the 32x port of  virtua fighter on neogenesis.
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Post by: Mr__x_ on October 04, 2008, 01:04:00 PM
I know I know...but the arcade version..is fantastic! Like an arcade version of mortal kombat..it has no rivals.
so..it isn't a simple problem to solve
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Post by: xyteam on October 04, 2008, 05:40:00 PM
dont waste your time running 3d games on mame for xbox as it runs to slow.this goes for games like tekken,ridge racer......there is no fix for virtua fighter even though i havent tried it on mame for xbox and i wouldnt bother trying.
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Post by: ressurectionx on October 04, 2008, 07:42:00 PM
There's nothing wrong with allowance mode C2W and, quite frankly, you seem to enjoy being the bad guy.

That idea seems pretty popular to me.  Maybe your parents were rich and you got to play $50.00 worth of arcades or more everytime you went, but my brothers and I usually had about $2.50 a day to work with at the arcade.  It's a simulation thing.  You wouldn't understand if you're younger than me and didn't go to the arcade much because the home consoles were already better than the arcades.
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Post by: dravichm on October 04, 2008, 08:49:00 PM
I have one, probably dumb, question.  Is there going to be an update version of Coinops Gold with just the changed & updated games?  The reason I ask is because I just got the last Coinops and the "plus" update about a month ago and I'm hoping I don't have to download another 4GB ISO.
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Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 05, 2008, 01:19:00 AM
Yes I will release a standalone about (40 megs)...thats what I release with a list of recommended games normally someone assembles the rest as I have tested all those games.

Also primary allownce code added, and primary keychanging for White+white (cheats and keymaps) and black+back (pause) and start+back (go back to games list) due to wierd setups people have (pause is more for consistancy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )

This post has been edited by BritneysPAIRS: Oct 5 2008, 08:21 AM
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Post by: ressurectionx on October 05, 2008, 12:56:00 AM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Oct 5 2008, 08:19 AM) View Post
Also primary allownce code added


Thanks BP..... Been wanting that for about 8 months now.  That's just tits on so many levels...  cool.gif

Now you can have real competition between your friends and family with how much you can do with "X" amount of money.

Sorry I didn't get around to MAME this weekend.  It will probably be a while.  I have so much to do with what I'm working on now.  MAME is definately important to me though and I will totally work on what I have to there by the time I get to it.  

I'm looking forward to offering a 25-50GB Xtras pack on MAME videos in the future.....

~Rx
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Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 05, 2008, 02:04:00 AM
I need nes to come though with the code (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Post by: RMM on October 11, 2008, 11:16:00 AM
QUOTE(cbagy @ Oct 4 2008, 03:45 PM) View Post

most of the options requested can already be remapped by the user anyway, next youll want someone to play them for you


You fail to understand the purpose of CoinOPS which is an emulator simplified for ease of use for just about anyone.  If the user wanted to remap a bunch of things they would be better off using a different MAME emulator.
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Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 12, 2008, 12:55:00 AM
Its wierd to me how people say stuff about hk build (like it plays Fixeight which CoinOPS plays now with no issues, is fixeight as good as Champion sprint or Super Sprint) and ignor the 100s and I mean 100s of real non keymapping issues there are with other games

Added in sound fixs and new driver for Toaplan2 games
Added in new Action Rotating Weapons cat
Fixed many more games
added in another 20 od games
Added in more lightgun fixs
Added in Lightgun cat
Added in Red for lightgun color

Doing a once over tonight of all cats, screenshot and cutting down the recommended games lists.
Then its stable enough for release I would say

Things left to do
Think about autofire option and what I really think about it (partially coded)
Think about Coin Allowence option and what I really think about it (partially coded)
Think about Screen filters and what I really think about them (partially coded)
Add Raiden Fighters 2000 Driver
everything else is bug tested and placed in to a standard way higher than CoinOPS
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Post by: ressurectionx on October 12, 2008, 07:05:00 AM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Oct 12 2008, 07:55 AM) View Post

Its wierd to me how people say stuff about hk build (like it plays Fixeight which CoinOPS plays now with no issues, is fixeight as good as Champion sprint or Super Sprint) and ignor the 100s and I mean 100s of real non keymapping issues there are with other games


I get it man.... but that's cause I spent about 4-5 months working on MAME myself.  And I tested them out on 128 plus first before I went back and tested on your build.  Huge difference.  To somebody who knows better, there's not even a debate on which emu is the superior XBox MAME emu.  And you're the only one I'm aware of who is still doing updates, so that's another big plus.

Ever get in touch with NES?
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Post by: cbagy on October 12, 2008, 08:20:00 AM
Dear me, well here goes. My post relating to remapping etc. you seem to have understood me wrong. Claiming that these request are to make CoinOps "playable by my mother" isnt really true is it. CoinOps was and is still the most balanced version of Xbox Mame ive used. Adding all of these extra remaps or fixes, games, for me isnt for the masses its for the few who can influence BP's decisions on these boards. Using right click for anything is daft, why, youll be suprised how many people catch that by accident, check out how many extra screenshots you have on the HDD after your kids have been playing for an hour with say XBMC for instance. However ...  the improvements and the clean interface make the CoinOps version of Xbox Mame the best to date without equal ... period. I hope that CoinOps Gold stays along those slick lines and, rather than whinge (like most), i shall say total respect to BP for all his hard work and effort. He has shown dedication to this project, and despite others, continued to listen to yourselves and implement anything he could FOR YOU. Since when was your mother or gran interested in the finer mechanics of the software. I myself, i think as a minority gamer as i enjoy light gun games and stuff. I notice some Gun code and fixes have been added to CoinOps Gold, i only posted once requesting maybe look at some fixes and i was quite specific as where easy fixes could be made. Just once, no malice, no crying. I would also like to add that reading posts on boards is harder cause were multinational, all of us, and sometimes its hard to either write or read post in the vein to which they were written. Most, like me, only type small reply's so they can easily be misread/misinterpreted. So if ive upset anyone then im sincerely sorry, however as you are intitled to your opinions .... so i too am bound by those same rules.

PS any news on a public release BP
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Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 13, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
No word from........ NES (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I would love to add video support personally in this build.

BETA is ready, im just going over and fine tuning the screenshots and Cat at present. It is then ready for release the other stuff can be patched in pretty quick and small.

I also dont like Right click actions it doesnt feel right.... although in the Game selector I use it for "sort by Times played" and jump up to the game I played the most (these extra sort keys can be turned off in the settings).

RX Hop onto MSN or add me to try the Beta maybe you can clean up some screenshots or Cat stuff...new GF is getting in the way time wise at present

This post has been edited by BritneysPAIRS: Oct 14 2008, 03:49 AM
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Post by: isufiji on October 18, 2008, 08:16:00 PM
Hi, all! I'm following this thread with great interest.

I have an executer3 CE modded xbox 1.0 with a 400 Gig HDD and EvoX, XBMC, etc.

If I am wanting to emulate, is it better to get MamedoX and fbaxxx or coinops?

Also, I am quite proficient at peer-to-peer, etc. And I am just tearing my hair out. Can someone PM me who is willing to have a conversation off-board about coinops availability?

Alternatively, email me at:

isufiji
at
hot
mail

.

If I can do all this on my own with Mamedox and fbaxxx, well, so be it, but it would be a sin to pass up and experience the hard work that BS has done smile.gif

Cheers!

Scott
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Post by: competes2win on October 18, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
QUOTE(isufiji @ Oct 18 2008, 10:52 PM) View Post

Hi, all! I'm following this thread with great interest.

I have an executer3 CE modded xbox 1.0 with a 400 Gig HDD and EvoX, XBMC, etc.

If I am wanting to emulate, is it better to get MamedoX and fbaxxx or coinops?

Also, I am quite proficient at peer-to-peer, etc. And I am just tearing my hair out. Can someone PM me who is willing to have a conversation off-board about coinops availability?

Alternatively, email me at:

isufiji
at
hot
mail

.

If I can do all this on my own with Mamedox and fbaxxx, well, so be it, but it would be a sin to pass up and experience the hard work that BS has done smile.gif

Cheers!

Scott



As far as what emulator you should use, I would always suggests using Coinops for the older arcade stuff and FBAxxx for the neogeo cps2 stuff... My opinion. But this has been covered countless times before, I'd suggest a search to see what others had to say on the topic.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: isufiji on October 18, 2008, 08:50:00 PM
Thanks, competes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I was hoping to get an answer from the man himself. I appreciate your input, though. Thank you very much.

I've had some difficulty deciphering the other posts/discussions, eh? I guess I'll read some more before beating a dead horse again. Sorry.

Cheers!

Scott
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 18, 2008, 09:11:00 PM
I agree with competes2win and if you really love to play around in mame with the details use HK of mame version
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: WaCk0 on October 18, 2008, 10:41:00 PM
I know CoinOps Gold it's not out yet... but I was playing with Photoshop and done a skin for me to use with it and I want to share with you guys.

This is what looks like:
 IPB Image

DOWNLOAD (if you like it)

Btw, BP... did you add more filters to this version? CoinOPS is a really nice emulator but the image looks a little blurred compared with others emus (on LCD TV).

I use Simple 2x + Bilinear and 720p in many xport (and zsnexbox) and everything looks crisp and vibrant.

Well, anyway... looking forward  wink.gif
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: bdizzle3481 on October 18, 2008, 11:24:00 PM
Rumble??? Would that be too hard of a task?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
I would love some rumble with some of the classics, if that's possible

This post has been edited by bdizzle3481: Oct 19 2008, 06:26 AM
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 19, 2008, 12:25:00 AM
Didnt add any filters ... added 720p but removed it as alot of games no longer worked or became sluggish. 480p is the best you can get and turn off smoothing. It looks pretty sharp on my 42inch LCD.

The skin is all good feel free to release one if you want im quite happy with what I have..... I have finished testing and released BETA, carried out 8 hours of testing yesterday with no faults so its up to the testers now and they have one week.

Peace
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: ressurectionx on October 19, 2008, 09:56:00 AM
Hey BP,

Wasn't ignoring you here.  I just can't get into MAME right now with all of the other things I've been doing if I want to keep my sanity.  I basically spent this weekend getting all the work I'm doing organized because it was driving me crazy not knowing how much progress I've made anywhere because I'm all over the map.  At least now I have an idea of where I'm at and what still needs to be done.

I'll try to help you out on your next release, assuming there is one.  Still keeping my fingers crossed that the elusive genius NES comes back to give you a little help with the videos.  I have 4 DVD's worth of .avi's for MAME.  Actually the whole set for all the emus was 10 DVD's so you can see just how many were made for MAME.

Later, and thanks for your efforts,
~Rx
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: WaCk0 on October 19, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Oct 19 2008, 04:01 AM) *

Didnt add any filters ... added 720p but removed it as alot of games no longer worked or became sluggish. 480p is the best you can get and turn off smoothing. It looks pretty sharp on my 42inch LCD.

The skin is all good feel free to release one if you want im quite happy with what I have..... I have finished testing and released BETA, carried out 8 hours of testing yesterday with no faults so its up to the testers now and they have one week.

Peace

Yeah, I understand the 720p problem, cause uses more memory and more CPU... but something I dont get it is: Why remove graphics filters, if they're cool features and its already implemented. I remember MamedOX 128 Plus running with nice filters, but they're gone now. Thats sad... oh well..

Anyway... its your emu, so I have to respect your choice  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Good to hear the progress.

See ya
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 19, 2008, 10:01:00 PM
The automatic filter code is in... you just need to setup the xml to what game should have what filter. As the speed and type of filter needed varies for each game
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: lordpro on October 19, 2008, 10:12:00 PM
QUOTE(WaCk0 @ Oct 19 2008, 06:17 AM) View Post

I know CoinOps Gold it's not out yet... but I was playing with Photoshop and done a skin for me to use with it and I want to share with you guys.

This is what looks like:
 IPB Image

DOWNLOAD (if you like it)

Btw, BP... did you add more filters to this version? CoinOPS is a really nice emulator but the image looks a little blurred compared with others emus (on LCD TV).

I use Simple 2x + Bilinear and 720p in many xport (and zsnexbox) and everything looks crisp and vibrant.

Well, anyway... looking forward  wink.gif


good job i like how you did the splash and backdrop-list
i will be definitely using them in coinops  smile.gif

thankyou
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: WaCk0 on October 19, 2008, 11:54:00 PM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Oct 20 2008, 01:37 AM) View Post

The automatic filter code is in... you just need to setup the xml to what game should have what filter. As the speed and type of filter needed varies for each game

Thats great, I didnt know that. Can you point me how to do this single config for each game?

Thanks for the info.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: WaCk0 on October 20, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Oct 20 2008, 06:23 AM) View Post

I will try and docco the finer stuff eg Romstatus.xml..... how to save a game and load a game.... how to adjust volumes in game.....how to SMB how to deeply customise using the ini and more but this is really something someone else should help with I can give over the info


So all this features are already there? The current CoinOPS+ have this "single game config" working via Romstatus.xml?

Thats pretty cool, a list with all this XML tags will be nice, so we can tune each game with this stuff (like test many games with/without filters and see if affect the speed / visual , set volume etc).

I can do that, if you send me this info. I'm familiar with XML, C++ etc

Thanks pop.gif

Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: law56ker on October 25, 2008, 01:40:00 PM
BritneySPAIRS, did you every get any of the NBA JAMS and Mortal Combats to work at a good speed with sound? I was always hoping this would be possible, but know it's unrealistic to expect that.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: xyteam on October 25, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
QUOTE(law56ker @ Oct 25 2008, 09:16 PM) View Post

BritneySPAIRS, did you every get any of the NBA JAMS and Mortal Combats to work at a good speed with sound? I was always hoping this would be possible, but know it's unrealistic to expect that.

mameox 0.72 is your best bet for those games to work with sound.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on October 25, 2008, 03:21:00 PM
That will be added in the new patch...I will fix alot of games Double dragons... midway games with sound.... bonks adventure ..... after this build it will be driver fixing time not features time
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: sbpaabck on October 26, 2008, 05:39:00 AM
Hey all,

Thought it might be handy to put some instructions on how to do stuff in coinops+/gold here:

In Game Controls
------------------
Cancel - BACK and START
On screen display - BACK and Right Analog
button
Toggle Crosshair - BACK and Left Analog
button
UI Configure - BACK and White button
Pause - BACK and Black button
Reset ROM - BACK, Left and Right
triggers
******* Load State - BACK, Right Analog
button, and Left trigger
******* Save State - BACK, Right Analog
button, and Right
trigger
Save Screenshot - BACK, A button, and B
button

Cool,

So was wondering how people are getting on with their screenshots? how do you link a screenshot to a game in the list? I assume you take the screenshot while playing the game "Save Screenshot - BACK, A button, and B button" is it then linked? or do you have to change some *.ini settings somewhere?

This bit is for people googling how to do stuff in coinops ((how to save game savegame screenshot coinops+ coinops gold pause load reset configure toggle)) - (should help people looking for instructions)

Coinops GOLD = class!!!
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: cbagy on October 26, 2008, 07:39:00 AM
must be getting closer to a release now !
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: cbagy on November 01, 2008, 05:11:00 AM
Damn it still no news, ah well, anyone have any idea which games were added / fixed ?
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on November 01, 2008, 05:36:00 PM
Maybe out soon..... talk about it is going on elsewhere sorry but its all finished
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: cbagy on November 03, 2008, 12:51:00 PM
Ok. Tried to log on to an account i had at another Emulation site, where theres a lot of talk of releasing the updated files, however i cant get my details right so cant post or msg. I did notice there someone kindly listing the mame Light Gun games. Half of the list didnt work on any xbox version of mame anyway. The working half, which i still have, worked under CoinOps+ anyway. My question is BP...the fixed gun code you have added, is it fixing previously troubled games or adding something new ie Point Blank didnt work and Point Blank 2 had no sound. Calibration issues were the problem for a lot that looked like real good games. Are the GUN updates you have included more up to date than other xbox mame fixes or source copies ? Will post a list of known working roms later. The really crap ones wont be in the list cause i didnt keep them.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on November 03, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
Light gun fixes are in and so is the new coloring (red ) of all lightgun games and a new sort type of Gun for all of them there is about 100 supported roms
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: cbagy on November 03, 2008, 09:51:00 PM
Working Light Gun games under CoinOps+

Alien 3
Bang
Beast Busters
Egg Venture
Gun Buster
Lethal Justice
One Shot Kill
Operation Thunderbolt
Operation Wolf
Police Trainer (get 1.5 version its faster)
Sharp Shooter
Space Gun
Terminator 2
Tickee Takats
Under Fire
Zero Point
Zero Point 2
Zombie Raid

A few others do work but they are dire !

Good ones that werent working under any xbox Mame that i can think of off hand.

Operation Wolf 3
Lethal Enforcers 1 + 2
Point Blank
Golly Ghost
Ghost Hunter
Lock n Load
Jurrassic Park

The chd files .... dont bother as we know

area 51, timecrisis, crypt killer etc.

I cant remember any more at the minute as i dont have the updated CoinOps Gold package or dat file. Hint Hint.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on November 03, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
Lots more than that got tested.... people had there chance to test these things for now its locked down and better than ever....it will be updated sometime with all the drivers ive corrected and others I will do . Till later im working on another project full time at present for the xbox smile.gif
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: cbagy on November 04, 2008, 12:17:00 AM
Advice for users using the Light Gun games.

I used to use a 30" Sony Trinitron 4:3 res TV with Beretta 92fs Light Guns. No issues with the working roms.
see previous post on working rom list.

Changed at xmas to 37" 16:9 HD @ 720p with LCDTopGun, however if you stretch or resize the screen options to fit the rom to a 16:9 display you will suffer a lensing effect. I will explain. From the center of the screen then moving outwards ( left or right doesnt matter) the calibration stretches further out as you move from the center. To combat this i play my mame games in the native 4:3 type res but calibrate the LCDTopGun to cover the visible screen of 16:9. Works for me a treat very accurate (down to 1 or 2 mm). For 16:9 TVs over a certain size (32" i think) it is best to mount the LCD rails in a horizontal config. PS sit still with LCDTopGun as its mapping is laser guided so any movement or shuffling about on the sofa tends to stray from your fixed calibration but its not really a big issue.

Happy Gaming.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: ultimate509 on November 04, 2008, 08:39:00 PM
IPB Image
So is someone gonna release this?
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: Vejita on November 11, 2008, 05:23:00 PM
QUOTE(WaCk0 @ Oct 19 2008, 05:17 AM) View Post

I know CoinOps Gold it's not out yet... but I was playing with Photoshop and done a skin for me to use with it and I want to share with you guys.

This is what looks like:
 IPB Image

DOWNLOAD (if you like it)

Btw, BP... did you add more filters to this version? CoinOPS is a really nice emulator but the image looks a little blurred compared with others emus (on LCD TV).

I use Simple 2x + Bilinear and 720p in many xport (and zsnexbox) and everything looks crisp and vibrant.

Well, anyway... looking forward  wink.gif


Doesn't work with the latest CoinOPS Gold that is out and about. The games list text is misplaced.

Can you fix this?
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: WaCk0 on November 12, 2008, 11:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Vejita @ Nov 11 2008, 10:59 PM) View Post

Doesn't work with the latest CoinOPS Gold that is out and about. The games list text is misplaced.

Can you fix this?

IPB Image

Fixed!
SKIN > RAPIDSHARE
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: psyman on November 13, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
can you create cut files to launch coin ops roms?
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on November 13, 2008, 06:00:00 PM
features in and source is out... you need to work out the the command to launch them
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: robot3 on November 22, 2008, 09:28:00 PM
I had a really stupid question about certain games:

I know some of them when you start give you the message that "this game has no sound" or "this game lacks sounds". Does this mean the rom file truly has no sound in it or that no one has successfully "relinked" up the sound for the game?

The one game in particular I was refering to was "special forces" from 84 or 1986. I used to play this in the arcades and was searching for it for a number of years (recalled the game but not the title). It was not until I was browsing my mameOX that I decided to try it out (based on the screenshot of the title and year it was made) and rejoice in the fact that this was the game I had been looking for close to 20 years. Naturally the irony sets in and this had the "lacks sound" message.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: ressurectionx on November 23, 2008, 07:43:00 AM
I haven't had a chance to try out the new build yet.  (Sorry BP)

I was wondering if it had some sort of "allowance mode".  I know you were talking about looking into it for this release.

Later,
~Rx
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: robot3 on November 23, 2008, 10:29:00 AM
QUOTE(xyteam @ Nov 23 2008, 03:14 PM) View Post

its because mame on xbox is at version 0.84 that some games werent fully emulated/cracked at the time so really i suppose the driver would probably need updated.you can ask bp in this thread if he could take a look at the driver seeing as he is working on fixing/adding new drivers.



hmm I do have a mame set from within the last year or so. I should see if the game has sound on that edition. If not, I can still contact BP and see if something could be done.

Oh and thank you again for the nice hookup xyteam!
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: Mega Man (?) on November 23, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
I personaly like this: Unlimited 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20

CoinOPS Ignite...? I love your way of naming your chronicles BP, It gives character and is much more fun than 1.00000111. releases.

I am in the understanding that you also make each precious release count.

Great all around work!
 
And, Thank You Very Much BP biggrin.gif
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: Cospefogo on November 24, 2008, 05:04:00 AM
A global amount of coins setup for all games is great.
And: INFINITE, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

If this feature gets alive, it will be perfect!!!
Wow!

About the naming thing, I like the PLATINUM, GOLD and now IGNITE.
But one thing I think you should think about is to TAG/MARK inside
the XBE the current version, with DATE and a version NUMBER besides
the fancy name.

I really miss this on most of the emulators.
We never know what version we are using!

Best,
Cospefogo.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: Cospefogo on November 24, 2008, 05:39:00 AM
Great!
Thanks for the update.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: ressurectionx on November 24, 2008, 06:42:00 AM
Ignite.... Nice!

I didn't know if you were still going to take this further.  Nice to see you're still working on it.  By the time I get around to checking it out I'm sure I'll be amazed at all the new features.  

I think it's probably best to do the one that MM picked.  My old man used to give me and my brothers $2.50 each to play when we were kids.  Maybe some kids just got a buck or the really rich kids got $5.00.  If you got much more than that every time you went to the arcade, your parents should have probably just bought you a Neo-Geo system.

~Rx
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: xyteam on December 02, 2008, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE(superchango @ Dec 2 2008, 04:32 PM) View Post

Hi guys,

First of all thanks britneyspairs for this great emu, and thanks to everyone who has helped him with the project. I am finishing a custom multiemu cabinet with an xbox and coinops gold is one of the main emus on it. I have a couple of questions regarding the use of it.

-I'm looking for an updated vmm.txt file since coinops gold gives me malloc failed errors in lots of games.
I've created a collection out of the mame 0.128 romset, by using romcenter, it actually counts with 4000+ games, and i found problems with several games from the mid/late 90's, i.e. primal rage. Is there any site with an updated vmm.txt file? the one i have doesn't have many entries.

-Although i'm making an unleashx skin for the project, i was thinking about creating in the near future a custom XBMC frontend for it, since the rest of the emus can launch roms directly from xbmc, and reading around i've seen certain scripts that allow the launch of an .xbe through a command line while passing arguments to it. Does coinops support this command line execution?

thanks in advance.

command line is in there i think but was never actually tested.
when it comes to games like primal rage the vmm has to written for it,maybe np will tell you how to do that.with earlier versions like arcades you could just turn on the vmm and you were good to go.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 03, 2008, 03:09:00 AM
add the games into vm.txt search for a larger game like sf3 or kof2003 and copy the vm settings for larger games.
Primal rage runs pretty bad really but works fine

Good luck
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: superchango on December 03, 2008, 09:23:00 AM
QUOTE(BritneysPAIRS @ Dec 3 2008, 10:45 AM) View Post

add the games into vm.txt search for a larger game like sf3 or kof2003 and copy the vm settings for larger games.
Primal rage runs pretty bad really but works fine

Good luck



Now that's a good idea, I hadn't think about it that way. thanks BP.

And sorry to bother you again, is there any way to create run roms through command line? I'm more than happy with the way it works now, but i'd like to work on an XBMC emu frontend to use on xbox based cabs.

It would be great to get for the xbox that seamless feeling you get outta some solutions for pc that are out there, like maximus arcade or hyperspin.

Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: xyteam on December 03, 2008, 10:49:00 AM
if you are going to use .cutfiles then make sure you use a biuld of xbmc before april08,as this feature was taken out of versions of xbmc after that.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: superchango on December 03, 2008, 11:23:00 AM
really? didn't know. thanks xyteam.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 03, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
yes its gone now but I have intergrated mame into xbmc ....... and maybe putting in FBAxxx as well
it would see .zip as a mame game and .fba as a fba rom the same as default.xbe at present. This way you can add a 1000 games and not need to do cut files
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: superchango on December 04, 2008, 06:17:00 AM
wellwellwell it gets interesting here... integrated mame into xbmc? is there a build for this, or the need of a plugin, script or something?

I never heard of it, and obviously i don't have a clue how it works. the 2 emulator launchers for xbmc (retro-x and emulauncher) are compatible with the xport emus, and then fbaxxx pro has the .cut thing, but i thought mame didn't have any support at all.

Any tutorials/documentation about this mame integration? I've been reading your thread in 1emulation and haven't seen anything about it. Might have looked past the info or something.

Hell I have a pending certification exam, and it seems i'm gonna leave it for even later than i thought, but as they say, first things first!

cheers!
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: KInstinct2 on December 04, 2008, 06:18:00 AM
QUOTE(xyteam @ Dec 3 2008, 07:25 PM) View Post

if you are going to use .cutfiles then make sure you use a biuld of xbmc before april08,as this feature was taken out of versions of xbmc after that.



Are you sure? Bomb Bloke said cut files still work it was bookmarks that got replaced by favourites.
 
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=668432
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: superchango on December 04, 2008, 11:09:00 AM
well i have downloaded a xbmc script called launcher, it kinda replaces the emu launcher scripts since this guy seems to launch everything. It has code specifically for emus and rom directories and seems to create the .cut files itself.

i'll give it a go and see what happens. Don't think it'll make my xbox explode anyway.

Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: BritneysPAIRS on December 04, 2008, 08:24:00 PM
its my build I use..... at the moment im massively updating it to comform with atlantis and also to suit exactly what I want it to look like and run like.
Title: ---== CoinOPS Gold ==---
Post by: superchango on December 05, 2008, 02:39:00 AM
Ah so your own build? not the coinops gold release you mean. Ah well i wish i could do that, but i'm not a coder myself so i have to go on with what is released within the scene. And to be honest, i'm very grateful for that.

Anyway, i'll be following the scene so if you have any intentions of releasing this, i'll be more than happy to offer myself for beta testing.

good luck with the project.