QUOTE (Striker2k2 @ Oct 9 2004, 12:55 PM) |
wow that first skin for xbmc is looking awesome, would love to use that one with the 1.1 release but xbox media center is not unleashx, or are you gonna convert it for ux? would much rather see a new cool skin for xbmc |
Yeah the XBMC skin's looks great!
I'm not a to big fan of the matrix but the other are cool to i really like the CD audio image
edit...
Hey thanks guys! Apreciate that... ALL the skins are just samples...not for any type of dashboard particularlly, just what I want the skin to look like, and then apple it to any dash that meets my needs...
As soon as I figure out how to do this (or more likely find someone to do it for $25), then I'll send it over to allxboxskins.com!
E-Yayuh!! Keep em votes comin! thanks!
-Matt
Well i don't have much to doo anyway so if you want me to put together a skin for unleashx just send me the graphics.
I'll need two backgrounds, 1 - 640x480 and 2 - 720x480 so i can cover both 4:3 and 16:9. The font you want to be used, both for the menu and misc text objects.
I would prefer using the landscape icons Inertia has provided us with, but this choice rests upon you completely, i just think they look good. If you choose to use them they are 254x55 if memory serves me right. And also an idea for the layout would help much, like you've done with the images in your first post.
Sorry to say... i will not even try to make a XBMC skin since that is very much out of my league. Well if you still want someone to assemble the skin for you just give me a pm or something.
cheers.
Here is a list, and a sample .png for every picture i would need. I dont mind shrinking bigger pictures/streaching them to fit the 16x9 version of the skin or the thumbnail icons. As you can tell from the last skin we did ( http://dell.gruposid.com/ScreenShots/XBMC/index.htm ), its pretty easy to work from a few graphics to make a complete skin
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xbmc...20Mayhem/media/
This post has been edited by WabidWoveren: Oct 10 2004, 08:20 PM
WabidWoveren, are you planning on making an updated version of the Media Experience skin for XBMC? I have your other skin for Avalaunch (which I am using at this moment) but really would like it to match my XBMC (stuck with Project Mayhem for the longest).
The first "skin" is the nicest I´ve seen so far. Keep up the good work.
it was on my to do list,. but keeps getting pushed back. a port of the mediaportal skin http://mediaportal.s....net/ssmce.html has been made to xbmc, so you can find it somewhere on the xbmc forums for now.
-Matt
kotix! Thank you a lot for taking your time and answering every question of mine! Wow, That was awesome of you, very organized, I hate it when I asked a bunch of questions, and people respond...
Yea, you can do some of that.
Anyway, That sucks you can't rename the MY PROGRAMS/MY MUSIC/ETC...I hate that, its way too MS, and I want this to be more custom made for ME, i dont like limitations! But sounds good, apreciate your help, I'll get back to finishing up my skin and I hope it turns out the way I want!
Thanks again!
P.S. About the GIF, can I put a GIF animation on any menu? Can you use a GIF for the huge logo of the main menu items? ie., when I go to scroll down to MY WEATHER, Can I have a GIF be created once MY WEATHER is highlighted , maybe some clouds moving or something ya know? Thanks again!
Here's an update on my dash...
I've messed around a little more, trying to get exactly what I'm going to want it to look like, then after... I will take selected sprites out and save them all seperatly so wabid can create it...
Let me know what changes you like/dislike, what you feel can improve, etc...
Thanks!
I'm not sure if the above dash sample could even work, but I have it can! Let me know if anything above will not work for XBMC... (ie, like the way some things are setup, the size, font, location of how you brose through your xbox, etc)
The DVD icon is nice but i don't like the Xman i'm more the ''evil monster'' guy so i suggest you have a look at
MRs Alien
Mr Predator (nice guy but he is a litle bit inpatient)
Or some nice chicks?
Here ya go Dolphin...
Not sure if your gonna like it at all, but I had a couple minutes to spare!
I'm an marvel comics fan, hence the x-men logo, like aliens too, maybe I'll do a couple, I could animate them since I just found out I can have GIF's!
Suweeet,
Wabin, what do you think of the skin so far, is it do-able? Should I start sending you the lil pictures pretty soon? or is more work need to be done?
-NineT9
Ehr... since this topic has shifted to the creation of an XBMC skin, can't this be moved to the corresponding place? (it has nothing to do with UnleashX apart from the first post.
QUOTE (NineT9mustang @ Oct 18 2004, 04:44 AM) |
Here ya go Dolphin...
Image
Not sure if your gonna like it at all, but I had a couple minutes to spare!
I'm an marvel comics fan, hence the x-men logo, like aliens too, maybe I'll do a couple, I could animate them since I just found out I can have GIF's!
Suweeet,
Wabin, what do you think of the skin so far, is it do-able? Should I start sending you the lil pictures pretty soon? or is more work need to be done?
-NineT9 |
Amazing that looks great! Really excelent! I hope this skin will be ready to use soon it look really great :-
Thanks it's great
You definitely spelled matrix wrong. Pretty nice skins nontheless.
QUOTE (NineT9mustang @ Oct 18 2004, 01:29 AM) |
Here's an update on my dash...
I've messed around a little more, trying to get exactly what I'm going to want it to look like, then after... I will take selected sprites out and save them all seperatly so wabid can create it...
Let me know what changes you like/dislike, what you feel can improve, etc...
Thanks!
I'm not sure if the above dash sample could even work, but I have it can! Let me know if anything above will not work for XBMC... (ie, like the way some things are setup, the size, font, location of how you brose through your xbox, etc) |
this is absolutely the most beautiful skin for xbmc I have seen to date, I hope that it gets finished and put on allxboxskins!
Can I make 1 request or suggestion. One thing that I wish could be better with most, if not all xbmc skins is the big icon view. I use boxart for the folder view and cannot see much detail on the covers of my games, movies. If you could make the big icon view as big as possible that would be great!! Thanks again and keep up the good work
QUOTE (NineT9mustang @ Oct 8 2004, 08:29 AM) |
Dashboard 1 :
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I must say that I liked the original better. It has got more class.
Just my 2 cents
@m.e: yes, you´re absolutely right. The original first one is looking great! The one from Dr_digitaL ist ok (much respect!), but not as nice as the original. Don´t like the big XBMC Logo an the Big Symbol-Egg. The original ise smoother and looks more designed.
If you can make it to look like the original then this will me my default skin.
Keep up the good work!!!
Thanks
TUllm
the original first one is the best. It has more style and looks more professional.
but the last ones are also great.
QUOTE (hereticx @ Oct 19 2004, 07:46 PM) |
Agreed. If this skin comes about, it will definately become my default XBMC skin. |
Agreed
Wow this looks really elegant. Artists are really amazing. Wish I was one.
WOW, THANK YOU GUYS! Thank you so much for your positive feedback , I really apreciate that!
What I will go ahead and do from what it seems like a majority want, is go back to my original, and change it according to the needs of you guys,
*I'll change from that BIG icon (with the x-men people in it), to the smaller version
*I'll make the folder icon a little bit bigger
*I'll remove the large XBMC logo as well
*And stay with the classic, more professional look that it seems I had in the original
ANY MORE suggestions would be much apreciated! I can change ANY pixel EASY. If there is honestly 2 pixels you think is off, or need a different color, it can be changed, there are over 50 sprites in my skin alone sample alone, so feel free to tell me to edit anything...
Again, I am very greatful for all the feedback, the comments and suggestions, i got chills reading some of them! Feels good to do something everyone likes!
Anyway, keep up the feedback and I'll keep up my work
-Matt
P.S. I have an update of my dashboard, but I was working from the last update, so I don't think you guys would like it too much since I worked on the update not knowing you guys wanted the original when I didn't work from that original... But I'll keep you updated, I'll probably post a sample picture of the next update on sunday, and from there, hopefully it'll just be a few minor touches and then I'll have it created!
Wow.. I hope thats all legal so that it can be supported.. I also hope directory listings are clearly visible.. Right now I'm primarily running a July build because I'm too lazy to update the ReDash skin.. I hate Project Mayhem..
QUOTE (triggernum5 @ Oct 23 2004, 08:11 AM) |
I hate Project Mayhem.................. |
.....................me too
NineT9mustang , you've designed the finest skin ever seen by the eyes of an XBMC user.
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NineT9mustang , you've designed the finest skin ever seen by the eyes of an XBMC user. |
i agree
Huh? I think Project Mayhem is beautiful. Best lookin ive seen anyway.
QUOTE (Arcticcat @ Oct 23 2004, 11:13 AM) |
NineT9mustang , you've designed the finest skin ever seen by the eyes of an XBMC user. |
Here, here!
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Huh? I think Project Mayhem is beautiful. Best lookin ive seen anyway. |
I think that project mayhem is good... Just a little too heavy whereas these skins seem to be more subtle and elegant... A lot nice IMO, can't wait for release... Hopefully it will become the default xbmc skin
I agree, this is the BEST skin I've ever seen, I hope you make it for XBMC, it'll be my skin.
Man... Thank you so much for the compliments, It's amazing how nice some of you are, Never have I felt so good about my artwork, I've never really expressed myself artistically to the public mainly because I design for me (desktop wallpaper, etc) Anyway...
Back to the dashboard, sorry about that, heh
This is my next update, hopefully the last, Here's the thing, it is different. Different could be good and bad, take for instance, the new dodge viper...
I really don't think you guys will like it, but ya never know! again, tell me your like/dislikes, its not just me creating this, its you too. Whatever said will be applied for the next and final update, then it will be up to wabidwoverin (spelling?) to create it.
Well, I really don't know if you like it, let me know, its okay if you dont, just let me know what you dont like, do like, etc...
Thanks again for all the feedback and votes!!! I look forward to every single word you guys reply with, I really do
-Matt
<EDIT> The edit is because I changed who hosts my images, the website before didn't take full advantage of the quality and size that my skin sample really is, so now it should be fixed.
Dude! That's an awesome menu! Holy crap.
But I suggest that on the top picture, move all the stuff up a little bit, the my programs buttons and stuff.
But other than that you've done a great job and i'm really looking forward to the endresult.
cheers
With every update this is getting better and better!!! It's unbelievable how nice the two previews you just gave us look, I can't wait for it!!!
yeah, this skin is unbelievable!!!
i hope we can download a beta version soon!!!!
Another great design. A few things that I'd change are have the fonts be the same across the skin, use the font you used for the main menu in the other menus. Also, not digging the large buttons in the upper right on the main menu for power and options/return to dashboard. Maybe just making them smaller would help. And if it's possible, definately do the different resolutions for hi-def tvs and have the dash scale to fit. Thats something project mayhem does right, other dashes just get smaller and smaller to where you can't hardly read them.
Incredible skin! Hope this supports 16:9!!!!!!!!
WHEW!@#$ Thank you again, for that inspiring positive feedback! You guys are really great, good people!!
Updates on today include, Softening some of the lines (so it doesn't look crowded), Changed that font type on the secondary screen FINALLY (lol, I've been meaning to do this for a while, sorry guys), I also worked on saving a lot of these sprites to files for transfer to XML...
Here are the plans for this week on the skin :
WEDNESDAY - I will be sending it to the man creating this skin.
SUNDAY - I'm hoping he will have it complete by then, and then It'll distributed everywhere! We will probably be emailing each other back and forth in case he needs anything else from me, which is why I am saying SUNDAY...
So until WEDNESDAY, Please send me FINAL feedback on this skin, because midnight on wednesday I will send this whole thing to him to create! ANYTHING you could think of, Even if you think it might be too much to ask, just say it! Idea's come from Idea's, so just take the 10 seconds to reply to compliment or suggest!
Again, thank you sooo much for the positive feedback, Thycide, rocafella, lovetropicanna, onlinebacon, Brouhaha, hereticx, tullm, YinfinitY, chilin_dude,...
and bob rooney for taking your time in TESTING out this skin to see what it could actually look like! Seriously, that totally helped me in changing the dimensions a bit!
Well, I'll be replying on wednesday with a update (Probably around midnight, which will be 11:00PM California time, 12:00 Utah time, 2:00AM New york time)
Until then, you guys are the BEST here at xbox-scene.com! Seriously!
-NineT9mustang
I seriously cannot wait until this skin releases. As stated before, Project Mayhem will definately have competition. You never know... this could be the default skin of XBMC!
Good luck with applying the final touches to this masterpiece
Just a small suggestion, i think you should include the xbmc logo in there somewhere, even if its only small and in the corner, with the developers permission you might even be able to give the logo the metallic look of the rest of this beautiful skin
Sunday is cutting it pretty close, but ill do the best i can.
Also 16x9 support may not be included in the first build (unless i buy the cables by sunday), im sorry for anybody that that effects.
Just curious how you got the metallic buttons/logo so clean... I cant get anythign in photoshop to look that sharp. Always end up using some other 3d app then edit in PS.
Will the first version be in NTSC or PAL? Or both?
Unless I run into a problem it should be pal/ntsc off the bat, but i can tell you right now we wont make sunday. Ran into some problems with the files so im hoping i can get the original psds soon.
@9T9 IMO the white was better than the gray (reguarding the .jpgs you sent me vs your last screenshot.) Its your call which you want to use, or maybe if its ok and you really want the tanish gray one we can make two different texture files for the skin.
Awesome skin, great graphics cant wait to get it on my xbmc to see how it looks on the old boob tube.
Keep up the great job
NineT9mustang for designing it and
WabidWoveren for the extensive xml work.
ICE
Even though this topic has been up for a couple weeks, people are still voting and new people are replying, I apreciate all that has contributed towards this, even if its a vote and no reply, thank you so much!
-NineT9
You know what, it may take long, but you know that the longer that it takes the better it'll come out to be. Just take your time (NineT9mustang & WabidWoveren) in making this the most beautiful skin ever made
-RocafellaSqualie
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Just curious how you got the metallic buttons/logo so clean... I cant get anythign in photoshop to look that sharp. Always end up using some other 3d app then edit in PS. |
kof33...
The main button in the middle on the main page, it was created with a few different types of effects and transparency's, I'm not sure how I got it so clean, but the program I use is :
1997 MS Image Composer (MIC)
It's a graphic program that came with Frontpage 97. When Frontpage 2000 came out, they discontinued MIC and use a new program called MS PhotoDraw (MPD) 2000, and now THAT was also replaced with a program called Digital Image Pro! I found out this out today too! So the program I use is 8 years old!
I've tried Photoshop, HATE IT. Can't stand it at all, MIC has been doing me good since I got it, and it can do everything I want, hence why I only use it and don't want to learn other programs, BUT, Since I just found out there is a program SIMILAR to MIC, I just might have to try it out!
Anyway, thats the program I use, and thats how I got it took look clean!
lol RocafellaSqualie! Thank you! This is the best, we're all a team here creating this project, It's not just me or wabid, its everybody who has voted and replied! Even those who haven't voted nor replied, they made the topic have more views, and made other people come check out what the commotion is! So thank you for not voting or replying some of you!
I also should thank the people who take the time to click the reply button and say something... I know there are a lot of lazy people like me out there... so when anyone actually clicks on that reply button, types their thoughts, then clicks add reply, you have my respect!
-NineT9
The reason you cant find a similar skin and replace the gfx is because of nt9's amazing home screen. He has some done some really cool things with the buttons, which requires me to open his file in photodraw, save pngs and then rearrange in photoshop. (Which is well worth it, as you can tell hes very good at mic)
Basically I need to split the select button into two peices, and the long right side will be attached to the center orb. When the orb switches so does the button, giving the seamless effect that its one button.
On a side note a skin thats 4:3 only is about 75.xml files give or take a few.
And the reason I need photoshop over photodraw is because it gives me much more specific coordinates as to where images lie in the great scheme of things. Photodraw does ok but you hafta do it by eye instead of an exact value. It makes the xml work alot easer imo, so hopefully well have it out within the week.
I dont mind the 4:3 coming first, but plz dont forget us 16:9 users. I dont wanna miss out on this fabulous looking skin
Bottom OSD gets my vote.
Keep up the awsome work guys, hey whats some extra time for a kick ass skin.
Looking forward to its release.
ICE
These still aren't avail for release?
How long 'til they are?
QUOTE (DaCocoBrova @ Nov 8 2004, 09:04 AM) |
These still aren't avail for release?
How long 'til they are? |
Read the thread, mustang has given updates and told us whats going on.
I'll keep you updated
-NineT9
By all means, take as long as you need! I'm just eager to get these on my screen.
I think you need to remove the Xmen thing, I don't think the skin should have any theme like a movie or something.
QUOTE (DaCocoBrova @ Nov 8 2004, 11:13 AM) |
By all means, take as long as you need! I'm just eager to get these on my screen. |
agreed
lol, no no, the X-Men was supposed to be a movie snapshot, not the backround!
heh, that made me laugh though
although it really wasn't a snapshot, i just thought it looked cool, so i put it in there, so i guess it was my bad...but it will NOT be the backround! Don't worry!
-NineT9
Wow, hadn't checked this thread for a while!!!
I have to say bottom OSD is a lot nicer imo, seems to just look more 'finished.' I also lol'd about the xmen comment, good to here that this is still coming along nicely, keep up all the hard work nine and wavid!!!
Alright, phew. Looking awesome!
I like dash 2 & 3, but went with 2, as Matrix stuff is quite common.
PM II has no chance against this great skin!!
I haven't heard anything from WabidWoverin since I last replied to this post, so I'm not sure where the skin stands. Hopefully he'll give me an update sometime soon, until then, I'm not sure what to say guys, I'm sorry
But good news is, when I first designed this skin, and when I passed it on to WabiWoverin, I never even had a modded xbox! But just the other day (saturday), I got my modded xbox, and now that everything is running, and for the first time I actually SAW XBMC on my tv, with seeing some of the skins, and the way it looks/runs, its gave me some fresh idea's on some new skins, so over the next month or so, I'll be designing some new skin idea's, and of course, posting a poll about it like this...
So I hope this skin getes done soon so I can take a look at it, and then make a nice brand new skin that I will spend a lot of time on (Also getting a new $2,000 computer!)...anyway, sorry about no updates, thats the only update
-Matt
QUOTE (GreenSabbath @ Nov 13 2004, 09:42 AM) |
Project Mayhem 2 just stole your thunder. |
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Will Xlink Kai be supported by your skin |
Hey mostym, To answer your question,...I'm not sure... I just emailed wabidwoveren (the gentleman doing all the xml work for me, btw thanks wabid for your efforts thus far), and I asked him if he'll be able to support 'Xlink Kai' in the skin
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Is My Games going to be a main tab, if so that will freaking rock! |
I originally made a My Games tab hoping it is possible to do, so if it is possible, I believe VERY much so it will be part of the skin, because like you, I would LOVE to have a MY GAMES tab...I bought an xbox for the games mainly, so its not you only that would want this, its you, 80% of other XBMC users, and me, the creator of the skin! So of course, it is going to be done...if that is possible (I dont know XBMC's limits)
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uhhhhhhhhh........ don't think so !!! |
arcticcat lol, i loved that reply !
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PM II has no chance against this great skin!! |
lol @ YnfinitY, thanks for the support!!
Again, thanks for all the replies and votes, Even you GreenSabbath! Just makes me want to work harder on my next skin!!
-NineT9
ok 2 steps
edit the <default>f:\games,g:\games</default>
-now when you click my programs it lists all your games
(with a new build of xbmc) press white on the my programs button and press rename button. rename it to my games.
HEy guys just a poin t I want to make. This skin looks great and I am keen to use it. But don't bad mouth Chokemaniac skin just because you don't prefer it. Some people really love it, I actually think his OSD is the best one availbable in any skin.
Sweet looking skin, lets compare when it is released. I am currently using PMII and the xlink kai implementation is supreme.
simbot82, I don't believe you were directing that comment about badmouthing Chokemaniac to me, because I haven't said anything bad, I think he did an excellent job on his skins, a lot better then mine! I have much respect for him for creating such an awesome skin... I just don't want this to turn into some kind of war with my skin and his skin, It's all up to Wabid really, he's the one controlling everything, I just did the graphics.
and Vamino, its really not 80% lol, I was just saying that, I figure the majority would want a MY GAMES tab since this is a gaming console ? But maybe I'm way wrong...anyway, hope we can look at this skin on our tv's soon!
-NineT9
When will this skin be out? I've just seen it and WOW I WANT IT! Keep up the good work. Can't wait.
I'm a patient dude, but the wait on this is killing me. Can I beta test or something?
Hey NineT9, I am an new poster here and I want to let you know I agree in every way that your skin rocks. I saw this post on here and didn't think anyone was actually posting because of the subject. Figured it would get booted or not go anywhere but because of the # of views and replies I had to check it out. I'm really glad I did.
Well I want My Games in the menu. I didn't ever think of it until someone else asked if someone would create a skin with it on it and I think he actually posted on here. I wanted to make an comment about the OSD. I know that you finished creating the skin and everything but I thought that making the controls for OSD metallic or look more 3 dimensional like the My Videos DVD from the main screen would look cool.
I look forward to seeing these other skins that you said you were going to work on. When will we get to see those and start voting and giving suggestions on those :-).
I think this is a good start for you being recognized for your artwork. Im not sure what you do for a profession but with that kind of artwork you could do great designs for webpages. Just an thought
Well thats my little speal' . I'll keep checking on this post to see when its done. We all look forward to it and I believe that your Skin is going to be the talk of the town once the public (those who haven't been following this post) see's it on Allxboxskins .
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Well I want My Games in the menu. I didn't ever think of it until someone else asked if someone would create a skin with it on it and I think he actually posted on here. |
the newest version of xbmc and project mayhem II support renaming of main tabs, i would only assume this skin will also
Thanks guys for the replies! It's people like every single one of you that makes me want to work hard on my next skin!
To answer some of the questions you have...
MY GAMES...As far as that tab brought up earlier, What will happen is if you'd like to use MY GAMES , then just rename "MY PROGRAMS" to MY GAMES like mentioned from wabid, tullm, and Dr Digital (thx guys)
Saldous, DaCocoBrova thank you for your patience and offerings! You have contributed plenty in just replying to the topic and giving your thoughts! I really apreciate the time a lot of you take to just reply and answer, and its not just my topic, its xbox-scenes.com, its amazing how helpful people are here, whether its to help out someone who has a major problem, or a lazy lazy newbie who has the simplist most FAQ!
theman76, I agree in every way that YOU rock! Thanks for checkin out the post! I'm glad you did too...About that OSD, I just got home from a long day of work and school (12 hours everyday) and now I need to get up in 5 hours, ...
but forget it! I'm going to work on a new OSD right now! I hope its not TOO late for it, but Ill work on it and send it over to wabid tommorow, thank you for your help in trying to make the skin better!
As for the rest of you, I sure hope I'm not getting annoying by thanking all of you in every reply of mine and saying the same thing, I really do feel this way and I don't know where this skin would be right now if you guys didn't direct me what way to go! Thanks again!!
-NineT9
And thanks for keeping us updated NineT9 & Wabid
Just checked over from the XBMC forums & many are liking it too! This skin to me is going to be a hit!
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MY GAMES...As far as that tab brought up earlier, What will happen is if you'd like to use MY GAMES , then just rename "MY PROGRAMS" to MY GAMES like mentioned from wabid, tullm, and Dr Digital (thx guys) |
Well I just got the new build the other day and I have yet to get Project Mayhem II to work on my machine. First time I tried it all I got was the background and it froze there. Now all I get is blank screen. Now that I know I can rename the buttons I will do that . I guess you can do this in any Skin ?? Not just Project Mayhem II.
thanks for the compliment NineT9Mustang. 'No worries' about thanking us. You rock. Your so dedicated to the skin your staying up late, even missing work. Thats crazy but we all appreciate it although you know us Geeks we get impatient waiting for something we really want (ie this skin) .
Latez.
@Kotix: yes, exactly what I was thinking! Great job on all sides, but now just a home screen? maybe wabid has a lot to to in real life and has not the time it needs to code the skin somehow faster!
So you offered to help on the xml side. Maybe it´s possible that you contac wabid and wok together on the project, so that it will be a little faster!
What do you think about that t9, wabid, kotix???
regards
tullm
Hey this has to be a QUICK reply, I am in a rush to leave, but i will always reply when I have an opp. to....
I know it has been quiet a while since I sent the pictures to Wabid (about 3 weeks?)...and I understand this skin isn't his life, so he's pretty busy doing other things, I really dont know where the skin stands on his part, if he's even been doing a lot or anything, either way I dont care because there is no rush at all...
BUT, If some of you know how to make this skin a dashboard (xml or whatever), help is always useful, I'm not sure when it would be finished, but if one of you out there feel you can get this done fairly quick and have plenty of time on your hands, then why not have a couple people working on this ya know? Not saying helping wabid, but doing it all by yourself if you know how to...
Again, i'm in a rush to get to work otherwise id do my usual thanks to everyone for replying! But I apreciate the feedback from my reply from just last night! Wasn't sure if I was going to run into any replies yet, but 4 of ya did!!
Thanks again!
0nEINT9
for all I know you might be working on this skin everyday! And I apreciate your efforts so far. If we can get an update that would be great...
As far as getting help from others, I hope you understand why I would like help... I understand time isn't too big of an issue to some of us, and to others it is, so I dont think it will hurt to get a few versions of this skin out there...
To Alpha Omega and the person who PM'd an offer... I will get these files sent to both of you tommorow evening, I would right now, but they are large files and I am on a 56k and I need to leave this line free...
Thanks for the views, replies, votes, and overall input everyone has gave to this skin...I'll try to reply tonight if needed
-NineT9
no problem, ive sorta been waiting for other gfx, because the home ones dont strech very far.
Just wanted to give my small input that this looks absolutely AWESOME. A very clean skin for XBMC, and it will certainly become my dashboard whenever it's released!
Keep us updated on it's progress!!
I think you guys should better wait till the entire settings is redone.
Should be implemented in a couple weeks
OMFG those are by far the greatest skins i've ever seen... could you please send them to
[email protected]
, i want to try to skin them just because they are so beautiful and because i'm so goddamn bored
thank you
As for the rest of you, I've got some idea's for my next skin, I'm going to spend a lot of time on this one, and make sure every single detail is straight out perfect to the last pixel. NO mistakes will be done here, and I will post screenshots when I get the layout created...
-NineT9
Make sure not to send out jpg's they are lossy, and recompressing images twice means a loss of quality.
I agree with striker that postponing the skin until the next point release is a good idea, because alot of changes are being added to xbmc.
ok, i need one thing changed... there is no My Programs circle, i kinda need one...
edit...
kotix thats why im not working on the skin right now, and i would try and give u pngs, but his source file .mic has 5 billion layers and its hard to seperate.
please email us with the pngs if you can,
thnx
-TNHitokiRi
Haven't even gone to bed yet Been working on the graphics and trying to fix some stuff on my laptop and xbox , boy am I tired so this will be short and serious...
I created some new graphics, nothing absolutley amazing, just working on those lil icons to fit the skin, and currently thinking of a skin to use for playing movies (i love the one posted earlier though)... I'll see what I can come up with though...
Apreciate the support, and now i got to goto work...and when I get home, going straight to bed, then waking up for work, then coming home to reply...so expect my next reply on friday night! Still looking forward to more suggestions...all the comments have been great so far in letting me know what is needed and wanted...
-NineT9
and to answer your question THN, I'd love to delete my xbmc and put a new one...but unfortunetly I copied the entire XBMC directories/subfolders/files straight to my C:\...so I dont know which folder is which on my C:\ and which file is which, so I will have to format to be able to do it, and I have way too much on my box to format, plus I'd lose my settings, configuration, scripts/ini's, etc...
99
lol... its not that hard to pick which files aren't part of XBMC
delete all folders but
Audio
Fonts
xodash
xboxdashdata.blahblahblah
dont worry about the files, there is no need to delete them. Just ftp the XBMC folder into C or E or F:\ and set a link into your fav dash to open it up. Or set the bios to boot XBMC if u want to boot into XBMC
QUOTE(j_guzzler @ Jan 26 2005, 08:39 PM)
I am pretty sure that this skin is V 1.22, it works on mine anyways, and I have the latest build of XBMC....
So many skins to choose from now, what am I going to do, a new skin for every month?
the last link isn't working.
I'm sorry, here it is
http://www.xboxmedia...=ST;f=7;t=10123
I got the error about "incompatible skin. We require skins of version 1.22 or higher"
I don't really no what build I have (other than it is 1.1.0) as someone else installed it for me. Is there a way for me to make this skin work? And on a side note, Kotix that other skin is great looking. I really wish you would consider making an NTSC version of it also instead of just pal. I don't even think my tv supports PAL. Lol, thanks anyways if anybody can help me to get the 99 skin to work.
this is really strange because as you see in the skin.xml:
<skin>
<defaultresolution>pal</defaultresolution>
<defaultresolutionwide>pal16x9</defaultresolutionwide>
<version>1.22</version>
<credits>
<skinname>99</skinname>
<name>GFx by nineT9 and</name>
<name>XML code by KoTiX</name>
</credits>
</skin>
It is a 1.22 skin, I have no idea why you are getting that error.
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Love the silver button selection indicator on the main page. It rules the earth with an iron hand. Bow before the shiny silver button.
AHhhhah hahah...That was great, I showed my friend that one, you a funny guy!
Anyway, Thank you for those trying to help out in fixing my xbox without formatting! That will save my a lot of time if it works, I'll try it tommorow (friend borrowing my xbox)...if that would work, I'll be able to test this on my xbox!
Abitlate, I'll try to post a screen of my box to show ya...Hopefully what TNH said will do
...And kotix, your skin looks great! I like I like... but the Masterchief pic...is that just part of the backround, or is it part of when you go to MY PROGRAMS, or is it an actually video preview??? Can you do video previews with XBMC ?! ...
Now in reponse to your question, I'll go ahead and make a list of the things that I will be doing (from what people have told)
XML wise, I'm not sure what people want, so please post suggestions... But this is what I will be working on this weekend :
*Create a new set of icons (not the ones used by PM)
*Change dialog box (again used by PM)
*Backround for script (If someone can point what this one is, that'd be great)
*Remove the text on the buttons (MY VIDEOS)
*Make the top/bottom open section to the original color, WHITE, to give contrast
*All fonts changed to CastleTlig (something kotix will actually need to do)
*Take out the XBMC logo (too much of a colorful icon to go with skin)
*Take out the WEATHER logo (too much of a colorful icon to go with the skin)
*I'll make a sample screenshot of what I'd want the skin to be like (with arrows pointed, notes on the side saying what does what, etc)
If I missed anything above, or you'd like to give a suggestion on a design for something, then simply click that reply button, drop the line, and let me know!
I'll be on my computer tommorow and sunday, so if you need my reply soon, I'll reply if needed. 2:30am now, time for bed
-NineT9
the Masterchief pic is one of the animations i've used for each section, they are avi converted to gif.
Now, about this: *All fonts changed to CastleTlig , I 've never create a font in xpr before, I 've always used the default ones or the ttf.
If you have ttf font i can try to arrange it for xbmc, but that will be for last.
QUOTE(kotix @ Jan 29 2005, 01:26 PM)
the Masterchief pic is one of the animations i've used for each section, they are avi converted to gif.
-NineT9
You are now the default skin on ye ole xbmc at my pad. Great work!!
Living in the States, I have an HD compliant TV.
Your polished skin works awesome in the following modes:
NTSC 4:3
480p 4:3 (NTSC)
Unfortunately, it does not display properly when set in NTSC 1080i 16:9 mode.
Just thought you'd want to know this as you seem to be fine tuning the bejesus out of it.
So...now that the bitching BS is out of the way - let me say this:
"Keep on kickin' ass, NineT9!!"
I love the skin. You have a great eye for professional, aesthetically pleasing graphic design. Can't wait for your next build / W.I.P.
-Lates!
alex
The last post I made stated what I was doing...Basically working on some more graphics as requested, I should be able to give a sample out later on today, then I'll get feedback, and we'll go from there... if you want details, just read what I said last...
-NineT9
These graphics, I sure hope you like them, of course they are just samples, I'm not sure if you guys will really like them, not like them at all, think they are just alright, or what, but just let me know, be absolutley honest with me, its okay!
I of course can change anything you see, dont like the rough/textured borders? I can make it just 1 solid color, or if you dont like the keyboard, I can change that too...Just let me know on any improvements, if I just absolutley bombed these graphics and did a horrible job, let me know!!! I really have no idea if you will like em...
Screenshot 1 : (Shown Below)
This is the Media Player layout design when you play a movie & the shutdown screen at the top...The volume is to the top left of the media player, its those white little squares... turned up halfway
Screenshot 2 : (Shown Below)
In this shot is the keyboard, and the little movie window... I'm not sure which XBMC logo I want to use for it, the one that is vertical, or the one that is horizontal...Help me decide
Now for these, which set of icons do you think we should use for our skin?
Choice #1: (Shown Below)
These set of icons have 2 little icons in EACH button, the top icon is a small real picture, bottom icon is a simple 1 color logo/icon
Choice #2: (Shown Below)
These set of icons have 1 larger picture in each button, with a slick chrome look to match the button
Well let me know, please be honest, if its horrible, say it! We're here to make this look the best it can, so every complaint and compliment helps...thanks guy!!
-NineT9mustang
Wow those new screens are amazing! You must use Choice #1 it looks alot better. Maybe you could use another pic for the video cam though it looks 2 much like the picture 1. but please remove your name from the bottom right of the screen we all know you made this historic skin.
yes the first choice is the better one. and I love the keyboard layout. The first one with which is not like a.b.c...!!
I am more of a fan for the second set of icons, the reason why is because there are already text labels for the category you are selecting. No need to have the Icon have the text too, also the icons look a lot cleaner. I am not wild about the keyboard layout but it does fit the overall scheme of the skin.
I know this has already been discussed before but i'll state it again. I think the icons should have a little color in them. I have been using the version that was released last week and I like the fact that The Weather Channel for instance is blue. Having everything grey tones does get kind of boring.
Obvioulsy we are all going to agree to disagree, the skin itself is nice, wait until it gets completey finished before saying "we should add color", "there should be no colors" When it gets released I am sure NT9 or whoever puts it out will provide the images, so you can make them whatever color you want and edit them yourself, I am a big fan of blue, so I will prbably add a slight tinge of blue into the icons, or maybe make them a gif and have them change color from red to blue or something, but thats for when its released and bug free, until then, just wait patiently for this to happen.....
But I also agree color is good, color tv was a great invention, and now with this you woldnt know the difference...haha...but this is something i will add when its released....
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Dont add colors 2 the icons!! Thats 1 of the only things I hated in the last build (the color on the weather icon)
-If you dont like it change it, your view isn't the same as everyone else.
Very nice additions NineT9mustang!
love the skin,
1 suggestion:
No purple text. Try a different color. That is all
I haven't heard anything from you in a while, thanks for the input and supporting the skin, good to hear from ya again
ThE MaSTeR 3 : I've already removed my name from the bottom right of the screen! Yes sir! I just wanted some type of signature on the skin somewhere, but I can just save that for the "credits" section
YnfinitY : Thanks for your compliment about the keyboard! I wasn't sure if I went too crazy with it its hard creating a design, you create something, add & subtract a bunch of things a lot, without even realizing what it really looks like and if anyone will like it (If anyone knows what I mean)?
Dasgooch : Heyya new poster , thanks for replying! I agree with you about the txt labels, I personally like the 2nd choice too, it just adds to the chrome around the button, and just looks better (in my opinion)...
j guzzler : Your 100% right. Once this skin is completed, all graphics will be provided after its done, so you could change colors graphics, etc, I'll even do the graphic work for people individually if they would like
Hades 666 : Purple Txt? Which are you reffering to? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the colors of the skin are blue/grey...right guys??
robinprice : I would LOVE to create something like chokemaniac.net, but I can't for many reasons, 1.) I do not have the time at all, It would take a lot of dedication and time, like mostly everyone, I have a job and go to school 2.) Knowledge, I do not know XML. I am very limited in what I can provide to the dashboard community, I know nothing of xml/html, not even the basics, so for me to do a "package", it'd take time to learn, thats just the learning part. 3.) Design, Although this is my first design, I'm not sure if I can meet the expectations all the time! Chokemaniac is a very skilled designer and has a lot of practice...I'm still a newb! But I guess thats good if I can create a great skin being so new to designing? anyway... you said "Thanks for reading" Thank YOU for reading! I love seeing new people posting they're comments about the skin!
But I really would like to learn the whole xml, open up a website, design skins for all dashboards, work my way to windows skins (wincustomize.com type of stuff), and just practically take my skills and implement them everywhere, but I can't, I have school and work If I were able to get $1,000 in donations every month, HA I'd do this every single day! But really, I'm stuck with just designing some sample skins, and if a xml guy is interested in creating it, it'll be a go!
Now, it seems that almost all of you have a problem with one main thing here ... adding "color" to the skin. Half of you are "add color, its too boring, make the weather channel icon blue, etc", then the other half is "dont add color, it makes it stand out, doesn't go with the color scheme of the skin"...I'm really not sure what to do here. Not that this is a big deal, because in the end, anyone who wants the other, can just put theyre color in each graphic easy...But I think I might go with what I want, which is to keep the colors the way they are without any colors that dont match its scheme. If this IS a big issue to some of you, let me know, This isn't just my skin, its ours.
Welp, thanks for all the support since the last update of the graphics! I'm practically done here, just need to get some more input of what needs to be changed if any, and then its up to kotix and his genius xml work!
Jeez this was a long post, sorry if your tired, I should have put a comic relief in the middle there somewhere, my bad... maybe someone can reply with something funny
-NineT9
thanx NineT9mustang!
How long do you think it will take kotix? I cant wait for it 2 come out!
i'd be happy to help... i know enough about xml to dig in. just drop me a link to download.
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Hades 666 : Purple Txt? Which are you reffering to? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the colors of the skin are blue/grey...right guys??
The general color for the text, maybe it is just me but it seems violet or purple.
Don't worry about it, not an issue.
QUOTE(NineT9mustang @ Feb 7 2005, 07:36 AM)
<snip>
Cant wait till its finished
release it release it release it *cry*
I just can't wait.
I think the keyboard is awesome and i really love the "colors". Don't make it too colorfull..
i like the 2nd iconset better... i hate too much text on a small TV screen :/
deanrparry : That would be awesome if you helped out, you should PM kotix to talk to him about all that xml stuff to see what you guys can do
Hades 666 : I can see how you might get purple from it, it does have a slight shade of purple, but oh well, no big deal like you said
phaelox : WOW Man, thanks A LOT of your input, I'd have to agree with everything you said, I'll switch the sequence from left>right, to up>down, to avoid overlapping. The keyboard, I agree with you on the "cleaner" look, I did the keyboard in somewhat of a rush just to get it out there, so I'll work on this and get that fixed...I also would go with icon choice #2 too! I'll fix up that "xbmc files", thanks for the help again, great you replied and let me know about your thoughts
eerrrr: I'll change those shadows and make the border thinner, ill get a screenshot tonight
Striker2k2 : I'll rename it FILES and make it a tad larger, and take off the shadow around the characters too, thx
semteXKG : I can't wait either! Whenever I have time, I work on this! So Hopefully tonight will be the last update on graphics, thanks for your vote for the choice #2 on the icons, apreciate it
explicitylyrics : So far the format is what is in the screenshot (I'm not sure what the res. is on widescreen / hidef), but what you see is what you'll get, after the skin is complete, hopefully kotix and I can provide high resolutions, more colors for ppl, etc...
Well, thats it for now, I have to work on some things here at the house, afterwhich I will work on the skin, so I will defintly have a update with screenshots tonight
-NineT9
Keyboard : Two looks, a chromish look, and a sharp look...You decide which one you prefer...
I see a majority wanted icon choice #2 (from my previous reply), so I just changed it a tad, what do you think of the it? Some were confused about telling the dfference between a camera and a camcorder, so I put into the DVD logo into the camcorder...as well as the Compact Disc Digital Audio logo for music...also made the MY FILES button picture a tad bigger, took away "XBMC Files" and just put "Files" and made the txt a little larger...
Well let's hear your input, let me know what you like/dislike about it...
I'll work on the graphics again on wednesday if needed...until then, would apreciate some comments
-NineT9
Ooh it's hard to say which is better! The flat one seems to fit the skin better, but the chromish one looks kinda better as the keyboard should stand out a bit.
I think I'd choose the chrome one though.
Nice work!
Dude chrome 1 is soooo much better I cant stop looking at it!
. But I'd make a poll about this... or you make 2 skins with 2 diffrent icon sets...
Definitely chrome. Bump for excellent XBMC skin artist. =)
Just wondering, do you do requests? I don't mean completely new skins, but maybe slight modifications to the ones you've already done.
@ninet9mustang
I was wondering if you could send me the pic for the forest backround. That would be great. I appreciate all the work you are putting into this skin, it looks awesome.
I vote for the chrome cause it stands out just a little bit more
I would suggest scratching that one and creating a new one.. Personally I don't like "The Weather Channel" icon either and the graphic behind it isn't very clear as to the meaning of the button. I have a picture of what I think would look good in my head, wish I had the skills to get it out there and show you, heheh.. What I was thinking, use a graphic that makes it unmistakebly clear it's the Weather button, so you don't need the Weather Chan box or any extra text: a cloud.. a nice big gray silvery cloud, possibly with some drops falling from it (a few small drops or two or three big drops), or a lightning bolt, y'know what I mean? I'll see if I can find anything that illustrates what I mean.
Again, excellent work on the keyboard. Hope you go with #1
@ninet9mustang
Thanks for all the great design work and effort you spend into this project. Excellent job!
I have to agree to phaleox. Since the XBMC is not limited to Kodak picture nor native Compact Disk Audio media, the 99 skin shouldn't suggest so either. Not to mention that a brand name shouldn't be used on a graphic of an open source project (except the 'XBOX' name, of course).
According to the keyboard, #1 (the chromish one) is more stylish and looks really outstanding. I hope you decide for it.
Besides the above:
There were several requests about the TV standard the skin gets adapted to.
My comment on this: It would be really nice if you would test the skin on a widescreen TV (I'm personally using a 16:9 PAL TV) before you realease it.
Keep up the excellent work, thanks from all of us who read this thread since it started. We all can't wait to see it coming alive as "release" version.
But any freetime I get, i'll be more then glad to make graphics for anyone
bartender_dmb, Yea I'll send ya that forest picture, did you want the actual forest backdrop? It is a different color (just so you know), I tweaked the color scheme of it to make it fit my design idea...but here is the thing, its on my old computer, so I'll have to bring out my ol pc and save it to a disk then put it on here...
hellboy, the TV Standard question...I really have no idea on that, I'm doing the graphic art on this, so all that is up to kotix and others who are helping out...I believe making it HD, Widescreen, 16:9 or whatever, is all XML right? So what you see right now, is probably what you get im figuring...correct me if im wrong kotix...
As far as editing this skin a bit more, I'll be doing it today when I have free time, So there will be an update with screenshots tonight...but nothing fancy, you'll basically see the icons without the logos, the same chrome keyboard design, and a new weather icon...
Thanks again for the support, It's amazing to see there is still new ppl replying to this, and that some ppl have been reading this since day1! We're getting near the completion of this! I'll update tonight!
-NineT9
The resolution part is not all an xml matter, let say that XBMC can make the conversion from PAL to NTSC and NTSC to PAL automatically, just 1 or 2 xml need to be adjusted.
The problem come when we want to make the widescreen version starting from the 4/3 (normal) resolution; 4/3 and widescreen have both the same resolution
(in PAL is 720x576) but widescreen have wider pixels so if you make a square image 100x100 it will not look square in 16/9, we need to make a skinner rectangle instead of a square that will look square in widescreen.
Problems comes more if circles or squares are used for backgrounds.
If you wanna try it out copy and paste all the files of the PAL directory in the PAL16x9 dir and see what happen to your skin when it's in widescreen.
I hope my english can explain it enought.
This is has to be quick, here are the screenshots, NOTHING NEW, just did as requested, input apreciated...
lmao@the master...hehe funny guy ;P
@kotix : i understand what your saying, ill try testing this out on my xbox to SEE what your saying, i just wasn't sure how that all worked with the differ res's and all...good to know now... i think im gonna buy some ebooks to put on my ipaq to learn about XML, so hopefully in a few months, I can make my own! i THINK im going to get ebooks, not positive yet, hehe...
well, gotta go to bed, work early in the morning, take care guys, lets here the input on this update, bad or good...
-NineT9
Hey nineT9, I don't think you need to buy an xml book to understand the xbmc skinning, I never learned xml or html at all and i beleive xml programming is alot of more complicated then waht we are using in XBMC.
In XBMC is just a matter of positions and sizes and the tags used are very selfexplainatory, the first thing to understand them is to look in the reference.xml:
in this file are listed all the controls that xbmc can use and the right way to use them.
Every control can then be used in all the other xml files and you can change all the parameters specified in the tags <..>.....</..>; if you don't change any parameter XBMC will use the ones specified in the reference.xml.
Most important in some controls are the <id> used in a certain windows, in the home for example the images with id from 102 to 109 are associated to the myprogs, mymusic, myvideos etc.. buttons.
In your skin i dind't change many things form the Project Mayhem skin, just some position and size.
If you need more explanations just let me know, we are here to contribute in some way to XBMC and more people learn skin it, better it will become.
Cheers.
ok the skin is perfect now put it on xbox-skins!!
If you look at all your other icons they show the playback device (headphones, xbox etc) so it makes sense that your video should show either a video icon or a dvd icon not a camera, and the pictures one should show a picture or a roll of film, something like that, this way it should be much clearer whats going on.
ps love the second keyboard from your new shots, the colors give it a really unified tidy feel.
This looks awesome! Can't wait for this to be finished.
i voted for skin #2... although skin1 is pretty good also.
) and then a picture frame or something like that and then for weather a thunder storm and/or rain.
I'd be happy to help in any way, but I don't know what I can do. I guess I'll just keep watching and put in $0.02 once in a wile.
Oh and sorry for the spelling its late and I can't really see to type.
Hey,
Any chance of an update on when this will be finished? I'm really looking forward to it...
This skin looks like its going to be awesome!
Ash
Bartender, I'll go get that pic for u tonight on my other PC, expect a link in my next reply here...
bigmitch lol, thx for reply, I'm not sure if its possible to have both keyboards as an option? Thats a question for either kotix or anyone that knows the answer...?
as far as when this will be finished guys? Well this is my last update really, I'll be sending these new graphics to saldous's webpage, after that, its all up to those XML guys... I'm excited to see this on my box!
-NineT9
I know its meant to be a camcorder but the fact is it isnt really clear, I think a widescreen tv or maybe a plasma screen would make more sense.
Whats the current status? I cant wait much longer!
guzzler, thanks for the help in letting ppl know what needs to be done. I've been absent ALL week/last week, havn't even checked email, nor been online! I've been inCREDIBLY busy (no really, one time i didn't even eat the entire day, seriously...) I was hoping for some nice fresh updates, but unfortunetly others are busy too, so i understand.
gunza, thanks for the news about the broken skins...not sure what exactly it means (im a newb in that field)...hopefully it won't effect this skin!
Well, I'm not that busy anymore, I'll be checking here nightly, i just got a pocketpc, think i might get some ebooks on xml to read on my ppc in my spare time! I'm actually thinking of making a skin for my pocketPC (but thats not for a loooong time, heh...)
anyway, take care guys, great to see people still care! Let's get this DONE!!! I'm dying to see this scheme on my xbox...i wanna show everyone, hopefully someone out there knows xml AND has time...
-NineT9
QUOTE(NineT9mustang @ Mar 5 2005, 09:08 AM)
eerrrr,Articcat, thanks for understanding!!
QUOTE(robinprice @ Mar 24 2005, 04:02 PM)