Post by: Category 5 on March 08, 2006, 04:17:00 PM
Dislikes -
1 - I said it before release, and now I'll say it after release. I can't believe they would release such a gorgeous game with such a hideous case of tearing. What happened to vsync. The tearing is nil in some parts, and in others it simply removes the illusion of smooth motion completely. When you are on the helicopter the tearing is so pronounced it looks like you are under water or something. Major foul IMO.
2 - The controls sometimes feel really sticky, and it is difficult to make small adjustments. Maybe it takes some getting used to, but COD2 was silky smooth, and very easy to control.
3 - It seems like the drone is a hit or miss type of device. At first when it had me try to locate ramirez it was literally a crap shoot. Luckily the command found him and sent us to the right place.
Likes -
1 - I love the depth of control. Once you get used to it it seems as though it would be really intuitive to move around without even thinking about it.
2 - the graphics. need I say more.
3 - The sound is incredible. This is an area that truly feels upgraded. The sound is now part of how you navigate which is awesome.
4 - the color shifts that give you intensity regarding situational feedback. very cool, and very intensifying.
5 - The connection of levels by the chopper stages.
6 - It's ghost recon. Although so far the playability is diminished from the original titles. The lack of smooth control and amount of frame tearing really pull me out of the simulation.
So for those who sworre I was overreacting by pointing out the tearing before release...and those who assured me it would be absent from the final release, the tearing is about as bad and worse than I imagined. In some spots even worse than PD0.
Sorry for the bitching. The motion issues are really a major letdown for me. I get annoyed after about an hour of play.
Oh yeah, what happened to FREE anti-aliasing? I remember reading that every game should have it, and so far I haven't seen any. You'll still find your jaggies here.
Post by: Deftech on March 08, 2006, 04:10:00 PM
Let me start it off by saying its amazing, well worth the $60.00, and well worth the wait!
14 of 62 people on my Friends list are on Live, and ALL are playing GRAW
Post by: Carlo210 on March 08, 2006, 04:19:00 PM
This post has been edited by Carlo210: Mar 9 2006, 12:22 AM
Post by: MadEx on March 08, 2006, 04:20:00 PM
Here's a post just saying: holy crap, this game is fuckin nice!
Only the first level and I'm just so impressed already. Animation and graphics are so fluid, the music durring tension is fitting and the controls are really good. I as expecting the aiming to be blocky and unprecise, but none of that here!
Back to my game
Post by: Deftech on March 08, 2006, 04:15:00 PM
it doesnt detract from the presentation one but in my opinion. But it did irritate me in PD zero, go figure.
I love it all, they did a commendable job by delaying it and polishing a game up that primarily runs on ancient dev kits. Ive posted too much in the last 10 minutes, Im ignoring the game, adios!!!!
Umm, I dont think Ive seen any jaggies yet. I havent looked but they havent jumped out at me either, so thats also a non issue, and coming from me, that means a lot
Post by: Deftech on March 08, 2006, 04:16:00 PM
you posted 1 minute after me
back 2 the game!!
Post by: Crystal Ice on March 08, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
Post by: davinator456 on March 08, 2006, 04:35:00 PM
holly hell i couldnt imagine anyone having a perfect gamer score on this game, at least not for a LONG LONG time that is.
the thunder at the dry docks made me jump.
the ghraphics are pretty damn good, and the game play is the sh%t.
I dont have xblive gold, but the game came with 48 hour trial card, which is great b/c im going out of town in 2 days, ill be back in a week, and ill have a paycheck to renew live at that time.
anyway- im off to a meeting, then do some homework, then play GRAW all night long
Post by: notsodiseased on March 08, 2006, 04:48:00 PM
Excellent game. I havent tried the multi but once I throughly destroy the campaign Ill have at it.
Also Hard is where its at.
Post by: Tripme on March 08, 2006, 04:51:00 PM
Best buy is telling me i cant get it even though it is in their inventory and game stop is out of them.......
CRAP
Post by: drummin82 on March 08, 2006, 04:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Mar 8 2006, 06:19 PM) 
I'll probably get the game tomorrow. Don't know aobut Live, though. I want to have it subscribed with a credit card so I can buy other stuff too without getting point cards. In other words, I'll wait a very short while until I get my Gold account going. Unitl then, I may run on a trial account.
I got a two day trial with mine, so you could at least try it out for two days if you got the card with it.
Post by: Vinestrike77 on March 08, 2006, 04:55:00 PM
If anyone is interested in joining up to kick some butt you have my Gamertag!
See you all in the WARZONE
Post by: penguin318 on March 08, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
Post by: Druggedpolak on March 08, 2006, 05:18:00 PM
Advance forward!!!
Post by: deacon187 on March 08, 2006, 05:34:00 PM
so far the only gripe i have is i joined a solo match and there was 8 peeps playing and as i move around i seem to move at such a pace but as im trying to shoot someone its as if they are moving 4X faster than i am
but hopefully everyone will start using this thread since near every single topic on the front page is nothing but GRAW
i took a break to eat, im gonna give another go at in a few minutes
Post by: Foe-hammer on March 08, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
Post by: notsodiseased on March 08, 2006, 06:03:00 PM
Everything looks crisp in hd to me.
Post by: shamsulaswad on March 08, 2006, 06:15:00 PM
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Post by: giftic on March 08, 2006, 06:54:00 PM
NOW this is a reason to own a 360
looks 10x better than the trailers ..now back to GRAW
Post by: fastTOE on March 08, 2006, 07:30:00 PM
i really don't like squad based games,...... will this game change my mind?
i can't stand having to worry about other AI ppl, i just want to run and shoot, i'm alright with having strategy and shit,... but i don't like controlling other shit besides myself,.... so, basically, will this game still be worth it to me if i really really am not a fan of squad based shooters?
Post by: hamwbone on March 08, 2006, 07:46:00 PM
any one else have this yet Unyielding (Multiplayer):
Got 30 kills before being killed in multiplayer
Post by: []-[]ooDLu[]v[] on March 08, 2006, 07:56:00 PM
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Post by: hamwbone on March 08, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
Post by: unclepauly on March 08, 2006, 09:39:00 PM
Post by: davinator456 on March 08, 2006, 09:43:00 PM
restarted and it was fine
Post by: Xeriak on March 08, 2006, 10:31:00 PM
Uhh!!
Post by: Greenpants200 on March 08, 2006, 10:36:00 PM
Post by: CattyKid on March 08, 2006, 10:40:00 PM
-Thanks.
Post by: JMan8108 on March 08, 2006, 10:40:00 PM
Post by: hamwbone on March 08, 2006, 10:50:00 PM
Post by: Altima NEO on March 09, 2006, 12:35:00 AM
ah well...
Post by: IllusiveX on March 09, 2006, 12:40:00 AM
IM damn pumped! what would you guys say to joining me on live when i get it
Post by: giftic on March 09, 2006, 01:36:00 AM
add my tag
Post by: giftic on March 09, 2006, 01:40:00 AM
I think this is the Best Console frontier of Games Ever. GRAW has proved 360is truely a Winning Contender..this is by far the best Game hands down
Post by: pingrr on March 09, 2006, 07:55:00 AM
Post by: sp3cialk on March 09, 2006, 08:09:00 AM
1 - wall/obstacle cover in multiplayer
2 - the ability to get into a friends game if it's ranked
3 - nade throwing from single player in the multiplayer side (for some reason it's different and can't get the judgement down to a T. I either over throw my target or way under throw it.)
Post by: Deftech on March 09, 2006, 09:46:00 AM
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Post by: shodanjr_gr on March 09, 2006, 02:39:00 PM
) of the game being played on a decent HDTV? I wana quash my urges to get the next plane to the states and go buy the damn thing ... (ordered from play.com yesterday so it should be here Monday but i just cant wait!!).
Post by: VOlition on March 09, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Achtung @ Mar 9 2006, 09:19 AM)
Future shop in Canada is giving it away as a bonus with purchase
My friend, so if I walk into the futureshop right now, I can get this game with a toque?
Post by: Vasher on March 09, 2006, 05:31:00 PM
QUOTE(davinator456 @ Mar 9 2006, 04:16 PM)
anyone else experienced the glitch where you cant hear anyone in the game?
other than that this game kicks ass
On the training mission I fired the launcher at the tank, skinned the ledge, after that I couldn't stand. I was "sliding" in the crouched position as if I was against the wall. After nearly completing the mission I went back to the top of the "garage" and went up to the wall where it started, there was an odd sound and my character stood up.
Post by: jimjom on March 09, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
QUOTE(jimjom @ Mar 9 2006, 10:11 PM)
FREAKING FUCKING FRY'S STILL DOESN'T HAVE IT IN!!! 4PM?! WTF?!!
Wow... thursday 4:39 pm, they STILL dont have it, WTF? Fry's shipments got all screwed! I shoulda pre ordered along with my burnout. I WANT TO PLAY THIS.
Post by: VOlition on March 09, 2006, 06:04:00 PM
Post by: deacon187 on March 09, 2006, 07:59:00 PM
playing with some friends online in co-op, so im not sure if it will work in all game modes but the enemy threw out smoke grenades and i was near a car and i could still see clear through the window of the car, but without looking through the car i couldnt see shit, it was on the treasury map so not sure if it will work in all maps either
Post by: Achtung on March 09, 2006, 10:27:00 PM
QUOTE(VOlition @ Mar 10 2006, 01:13 AM)
My friend, so if I walk into the futureshop right now, I can get this game with a toque?
As far as I know yeh, Im sure they only have a limited number of them though.
Post by: hamwbone on March 09, 2006, 10:46:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on March 09, 2006, 11:18:00 PM
Post by: hamwbone on March 09, 2006, 11:27:00 PM
Post by: shamsulaswad on March 09, 2006, 11:34:00 PM
Post by: hamwbone on March 09, 2006, 11:46:00 PM
................i hate nite levels.
Post by: Vasher on March 09, 2006, 11:51:00 PM
Post by: deacon187 on March 10, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
QUOTE(hamwbone @ Mar 10 2006, 12:53 AM)
priorities man! good thing.
................i hate nite levels.
default brightness is set to 0 i got mine at 4 now and its much better
man i gotta love first person only servers, the game is way better in first person, not to many peeps complained at all either, just got done playing 5 hours, to bad i gotta work @ 7:30am other wise id go for the 8 hour achievement, ohwell, the weekend is almost here
Post by: JMan8108 on March 10, 2006, 12:53:00 AM
Post by: chuxterofdoom on March 10, 2006, 03:59:00 AM
I mean why do I have to suffer. OH yeah, Just out of curiosity, what is your favorite load out of weapons. I prefer the scar-l/eglm and nades. I love blowing stuff up!
Post by: griffin XXI on March 10, 2006, 07:31:00 AM
Post by: VinnySem on March 10, 2006, 10:18:00 AM
Played for a good 3-4 hours multiplayer last night, man I love this game!
For me, it's little annoyances in older versions that have been addressed in GRAW that I love, such as the ability to set your default weapon loadout, instead of having to cycle through all of the guns to find it.
Did a FFA last night, was the most MP fun I've had in a long time.
One thing I wish they did in GRAW which they did in R6:Lockdown, is left trigger = grenade throw instead of needing to select a grenade first, then throw.
With GRAW this good, I can't wait to see what R6:Vegas is like. I've been a Clancy-universe game fan since the original Rainbow Six on PC.
Post by: davemire on March 10, 2006, 11:25:00 AM
It's too bad.....
Post by: havoc on March 10, 2006, 03:35:00 PM
oh yeah and if anyone wants my 48 hour trial first to pm me gets it.
see ya on the battle field
Post by: esc1 on March 10, 2006, 10:03:00 PM
Post by: bOi_1 on March 10, 2006, 10:27:00 PM
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Post by: VOlition on March 11, 2006, 01:39:00 AM
Post by: Greenpants200 on March 11, 2006, 02:22:00 AM
Post by: loserkid182 on March 11, 2006, 03:18:00 AM
I love it but it is frustrating in places:
Helicopter Chaingun = grrr , just have to fire in bursts but end up with little health on the ground (i'm on the castle level)
I got pissed off with the protect the dumbass president at the embassy so much that I smashed my controller on the floor and one of the arms split open
(you have to stand next to him and use the choppers to mop up)Very Good, I set it up on my 17" tft with crappy 2.1 surround system, but oh it is amazing, tried it on my 14" crt tv afterwards and i couldn't play it, so i'll only play it with the TFT now.
Post by: Legendary Badass on March 11, 2006, 04:01:00 AM
Second question. Is there no talking on ranked team matches? I played a few games, and no one said anything.
Post by: Greenpants200 on March 11, 2006, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: bOi_1 on March 11, 2006, 11:00:00 AM
Post by: esc1 on March 11, 2006, 12:00:00 PM
QUOTE(esc1 @ Mar 11 2006, 12:10 AM)
I was reading over at teamxbox about mp. They said they covered each mp map and showed details for each, but there was only six. Is that for real?
Post by: Deftech on March 11, 2006, 06:47:00 PM
I started using whatever nade launcher I had, it was one of the SCAR rifles I believe. My trajectory was off so it took all 6 to reach the bastard, but on the 6th, it hit his corner and it got him! He was far off and the sound was very faint but damn it was nice 2 reach out and touch the fugger like that
Post by: Carlo210 on March 11, 2006, 07:45:00 PM
Hopefully, this game will be mine on Monday.
Post by: esc1 on March 11, 2006, 08:26:00 PM
Post by: Carlo210 on March 11, 2006, 10:19:00 PM
http://forums.ubi.co...rm/f/3291043913
Post by: crimethink on March 12, 2006, 05:00:00 AM
Holy-Fucking-Shit.
Rented this game.
Loved this game.
Buying this game.
The whole game actually looks just as good as that screenshot.
Post by: zilli0n on March 12, 2006, 02:41:00 PM
Join up !
http://www.grawclans.com
Post by: Mikeizzle on March 12, 2006, 02:44:00 PM
lol, j/k. But i just got this game. Its pritty fucking sick. I like it alot. I love it. I want to make sex to it. err... forget that last part
. But, damn, its so awesome. In the 2nd mission, when i got a rifle with a nade launcher on it, im like 'okay, gotta find something to blow up' so theres 3 guys hiding behind a car, i am at the car and.... KA-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!! i mean, holy fuck and a half this game is amazing. It sounded so real and shit, its awesome. And i havent even got into the multiplayer yet! Allthough im stuck on like the 4th or 5th mission at night. Damn, its hard, i cant see shit without NVG. But i like being able to controll the apachie 
. Fucking amazing, just amazing.
Post by: VOlition on March 12, 2006, 03:02:00 PM
Post by: sp3cialk on March 12, 2006, 11:01:00 PM
QUOTE(crimethink @ Mar 12 2006, 07:07 AM)
Holy-Fucking-Shit.
Rented this game.
Loved this game.
Buying this game.
The whole game actually looks just as good as that screenshot.
Actually mine looks better....
but yea the game is awesome....
Post by: shamsulaswad on March 12, 2006, 11:17:00 PM
QUOTE(crimethink @ Mar 12 2006, 01:07 PM)
Holy-Fucking-Shit.
Rented this game.
Loved this game.
Buying this game.
The whole game actually looks just as good as that screenshot.
I just got to this part and have been killed several times just to get off the roof. Any advice? Maybe I'll just try tomorrow then.
Post by: jizmo on March 13, 2006, 05:14:00 AM
1) Framerate variess from acceptable to downright sluggy. It's OK in normal game, but on bigger showdowns with vehicles and enemy running around and some smoke grenades makes the framerate appalling. It's even worse in the snipe mode.
2) Low-res textures. Sure, it's a big city, but the paths where the action takes place should've been upgraded with sharper textures. Every brick wall you lean on look very smudged.
3) Some Xbox character models. I mean, just look at the presidents.
4) Tunnel running. Sure, it's a two-block tunnel, but every movement is still very restricted, you can't go where you want. I would've loved to take different approaches to fights by suprising the enemy by climbing to a roof, going around them and hitting their squad from behind etc
5) Average four min wait in MP lobbies is too much.
6) No any next-gen AI here. They seek for cover nicely, but I still see enemies trying to run to me trough a fence
Plus sides:
1) Well planned and well balanced game, rambo tactics don't apply here
2) The main characters have hi-res textures and are nicely modeled and animated
3) While there are some obvious shortcomings in some graphical aspects, it still is the best looking x360 game out there.
My verdict: 8.5/10
Post by: Category 5 on March 13, 2006, 10:12:00 AM
Post by: Schismatized on March 13, 2006, 12:27:00 PM
Post by: loserkid182 on March 13, 2006, 03:40:00 PM
also spotted a spelling mistake in the game on the HUD (I spellcheck things as part of my job, it's a gift - honest) :
also some in the "manual"
but it is a great game so I forgive them
I'm stuck at the castle just past the checkpoint gate with the fire to the left (BHD?) low on health and too many sneaky bastard mexican terrorists (no offence to any mexican henchmen reading this)
Post by: yakpimp on March 13, 2006, 09:36:00 PM
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Post by: shamsulaswad on March 14, 2006, 12:29:00 AM
QUOTE(hamwbone @ Mar 14 2006, 06:59 AM)
im on that same part... i can see the first sniper but i keep getting popped in the head by another one... the search continues
another one is located on top of the building across the first one. be cautious, there will be more marksmen. I'm done with normal mode, propably try my luck on hard now.
Post by: Carlo210 on March 14, 2006, 05:24:00 PM
Post by: JMan8108 on March 14, 2006, 05:37:00 PM
Post by: JMan8108 on March 14, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
im on the 4th level where u have to take out the bunkers with the c4....
ive cleared all the enemies out of the area but how do i get to the c4 to blow up the bunker???thx
Post by: Deftech on March 14, 2006, 11:19:00 PM
QUOTE(JMan8108 @ Mar 15 2006, 01:17 AM)
hey guys i need some help
im on the 4th level where u have to take out the bunkers with the c4....
ive cleared all the enemies out of the area but how do i get to the c4 to blow up the bunker???thx
there is no C4 you have to get, you carry it by default. walk up to a bunker and Hold in "Y"
Post by: JMan8108 on March 14, 2006, 11:54:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on March 14, 2006, 11:59:00 PM
Post by: Carlo210 on March 15, 2006, 09:04:00 AM
Deftech, do you play over live?
Post by: Deftech on March 15, 2006, 11:28:00 AM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Mar 15 2006, 11:11 AM)
I'm on the one where it's set in an autumn landscape.
Deftech, do you play over live?
At times, depending on the game...with friends Ive know for many moons. Some of us have been playing online together for many years, and we all know how one another works in tactical games, so we stick together when a Recon or R6 comes out.
Recon is the only game Ive found worthy of playing online thus far for the 360, and even then I havent played it much online, the single player is far more engaging than I expected
Ive hated all past recons single player attempts, this one is the opposite. I prefer the single player over the mutli, never expected that.Post by: hamwbone on March 15, 2006, 12:17:00 PM
Post by: griffin XXI on March 15, 2006, 01:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Mar 15 2006, 12:35 PM)
At times, depending on the game...with friends Ive know for many moons. Some of us have been playing online together for many years, and we all know how one another works in tactical games, so we stick together when a Recon or R6 comes out.
Recon is the only game Ive found worthy of playing online thus far for the 360, and even then I havent played it much online, the single player is far more engaging than I expected
Ive hated all past recons single player attempts, this one is the opposite. I prefer the single player over the mutli, never expected that.Totally agree with you there. This Recon will be the first one I've finished in SP. Good job UBI for the nice surprise.