Post by: blueyben on February 23, 2006, 07:40:00 PM
backed it up the normal way...ftp'd used qwix to make the iso, patched and burnt at slowest speed.
But won't play world tour, scanned the net but no help, anyone know anything about this? I'm gonna try and update my biso but im running m8 so i don't know if that will help.
Cheers
B
Post by: Loser_guy on February 23, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
I have a similiar problem with that game, except it won't play off my hard drive, same with greg hastings paintball (works on dvd+r) and GTA SA (also works on DVD).
Also, have you used the same media in the xbox before, and it was able to read it?
Post by: shadow23 on February 23, 2006, 08:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Loser_guy @ Feb 24 2006, 01:41 PM) 
Did you make it into an XISO?
He just said he used QWIX.
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Post by: blueyben on February 23, 2006, 08:20:00 PM
I suspect it has something to do with the length of the filenames, i just don't know how to shorten them
Cheers
Post by: Loser_guy on February 23, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Feb 24 2006, 03:45 AM) 
He just said he used QWIX.
Oh, I didn't know qwix automaticly made it into an XISO, sorry.
Post by: lenballs on February 23, 2006, 10:48:00 PM
I've checked this on two different xbox's with two different retail discs.
Its not a bad disc, bad laser, cache or anything like that, just wondering how this can be fixed if you can't even get it on the drive. Hmmm
Post by: ibemonty2000 on February 23, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
-Monty
Post by: Dreamcazman on February 24, 2006, 12:05:00 AM
I'm a bit annoyed I can't dump it to the HDD, but hopefully a fix will come soon.
Post by: cornatbeat on February 24, 2006, 01:23:00 AM
this game has a new type of protection, which is PRETTY nasty and NOT very obvious.
1. TYPE : long filenames NUMBERS ONLY
file 1: 01566257402957006257349845861827402934985700405556228485127084850156625740295700
file 2: 07136257127051695622458684857371071362571270516956224586848573710713625712705169
...and so on (5 files with 80 digits each )
i'd guess the sourcecode looks some kind like this :
int main{}
// variable declaration
very_long_integer file1 = 01566257402957006257349845861827402934985700405556228485127084850156625740295700
;
...
int _some_function_to_open_file()
open_file (to_char (file1) );
open_file ("tracks.ini");
...
as you can see, there will be NO reference in the game(default.xbe) whatsoever of the long filenames as they are stored only AS NUMBERS (int,longint whatever) and NOT as CHARACTERS (strings whatever).
2. TYPE : DESTROY YOUR SAVEGAME
the backup of the game will - somehow - notice, that it is a duplicate.
as soon as you pass tier 4 , save, switch off the xbox, power the xbox up with toca and try to reload your savegame it will say "savegame corrupt".
the mediacheck is still in place but somewhere along with the savegame routine there is another, probably hidden, mediacheck.
these protections can only be hard patched with a crack or likewise. you will need a debugkitbios with msdevkit to debug the default.xbe. i don't have a 512k chip so i cant use the debugbios otherwise i'd probably have a "solution" by now.
so if someone has this setup : GET WORKING! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
... and that is all i can say. (in gump words (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) )
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: cornatbeat on February 24, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
me again.
as i did my weekly shopping some other thing popped in to my mind:
the MAX filenamelength on fatX is 42 characters. so if the files are cut to 42char length , codemasters could also implement a nice "IF EXISTS "check.
for example :
file 1: 01566257402957006257349845861827402934985700405556228485127084850156625740295700
file 1 with 42chars:015662574029570062573498458618274029349857
so not only the number protection itself but also a check if the "file1with42chars" exists, then just crash or do whatever, because the existance of this file would indicate that the game is run from hdd.
because of the fact, that these numbers/filenames can be generated in any possible way ( adding numbers, substracting, multiply, divide, mod and even like this :"stringconcat(to_char(file1_part1),to_char(file1_part2)) ), it will probably take a few weeks until a backup is possible (lots of debugging (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
anyway
i've been playing around with my backup and it seems my statement "corrupt savegame after tier 4" was incorrect. i'm now at tier 8 and it still works. i wonder for how long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ...
i have to add, that i am NOT just switching the xbox off, but i select "LOAD PROFILE" and then hit "BACK" so TOCA3 shows me the startup-screen with "PRESS START" and the BIG TOCA RACE DRIVER 3 logo.
maybe this has something to do with corrupting/not corrupting the savegame.
cya&hf
cornatbeat
This post has been edited by cornatbeat: Feb 24 2006, 09:05 PM
Post by: Dreamcazman on February 24, 2006, 07:38:00 PM
Post by: cornatbeat on February 25, 2006, 01:31:00 AM
as i stated above this might just be coincidence, but for now i choose the save looking way of quitting all menus and going back to the "PRESS START" screen.
this savegame issue is only speculation for now. i really hope that there are no others with this kind of problem.
but the long filenames with numbers problem is very real and i probably would have implemented the same copyprotection. it keeps away the noobs and requires a massiv amount of work to really get every single filenamecheck (in case they are hidden all over the game - which would be very easy ) hacked out.
one other issue has been confirmed :
if NO savegame exists and you use your backup to create a profile the game will CRASH.
after resetting the xbox and loading the savegame you are able to play but as soon as you select "WORLD TOUR" the game crashes again. so there seems to be another mediacheck in place.
...and all who pirated the game have now a very nice and big demo of toca race driver 3 on their hands *lol* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: shadow23 on February 25, 2006, 04:13:00 AM
Post by: jonels on February 25, 2006, 07:22:00 AM
It definately needs investigating.
Post by: shadow23 on February 25, 2006, 06:52:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Feb 26 2006, 12:53 AM)
Yes but if you keep playing the backup the save will corrupt at some point. The usual error is that you cannot complete any championships even though winning 2 out 2 races. This definately seems like protection. If all games start using this then backups of our favourite games will become impossible with new releases.
It definately needs investigating.
It's only a matter of time before someone finds a fix for it.
Post by: babyblu on February 25, 2006, 10:51:00 AM
nothing is impossible if it was writing by somone it can be unwriten just takes time. Samething goes 4 the 360 it will happen.
Post by: Dai_UK on February 26, 2006, 02:05:00 AM
Post by: shadow23 on February 26, 2006, 02:22:00 AM
QUOTE(Dai_UK @ Feb 26 2006, 07:36 PM)
codemasters love doing this, wasn't their last game the same !
Yeah but this time it's a bit nasty.
Post by: hurders on February 26, 2006, 05:03:00 AM
Post by: Neilor on February 26, 2006, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: xbox_noob77 on February 26, 2006, 07:29:00 PM
I have uploaded the 3.03GB ISO to xbox hard drive using FlashFXP but game just hangs when launched.
What do I need to do to get it to work? Burn to DVD?
Thanks
Scott
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on February 26, 2006, 07:16:00 PM
QUOTE(xbox_noob77 @ Feb 26 2006, 09:00 PM)
Hi all
I have uploaded the 3.03GB ISO to xbox hard drive using FlashFXP but game just hangs when launched.
What do I need to do to get it to work? Burn to DVD?
Thanks
Scott
you need to buy a retail copy of the game...
discussion of downloaded ILLEGAL files/ISOs is not permitted on xbox scene...
continue to blatently break the forum rules, expect a warning/ban
Post by: ClentRZ on February 27, 2006, 04:39:00 AM
QUOTE(ILLusions0fGrander @ Feb 27 2006, 01:23 PM)
you need to buy a retail copy of the game...
discussion of downloaded ILLEGAL files/ISOs is not permitted on xbox scene...
continue to blatently break the forum rules, expect a warning/ban
Didn't notice any mention of this person downloading ILLEGAL files/ISOs, just that he uploaded an ISO from flashFXP to his XBOX HDD.
Seems to fit the profile of this forum well.
Was the post edited?, surely we can freely discuss these comments without any drama.
Post by: cornatbeat on February 27, 2006, 04:28:00 AM
lol, are you serious? he obviously didn't read the thread, otherwise he knew, that the game won't run from hdd AND the word ISO says it all - anyway
PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC!
thank you
@ILLusions0fGrander
is it possible to merge this topic with this one :
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=492856
that would be GREAT!
i've already explained some possible technical details of the new copyprotection and i think 2 redundant topics on TOCA RACE DRIVER 3 are not necessary
thanks
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: rocky5 on February 27, 2006, 08:40:00 AM
Post by: hurders on February 27, 2006, 11:44:00 AM
Also, does it work correctly putting it on the harddrive this way? Does it still randomly corrupt your profile when you get to a certain tier in World Tour?
Post by: shadow23 on February 27, 2006, 11:30:00 AM
QUOTE(rocky5 @ Feb 28 2006, 02:11 AM)
It is possible to play toca 3 on the hdd i have the pal version and all you do is make a backup of the game and ftp it to the xbox as an xiso format then you use virtual drive to play it of the hdd.
That is impossible!!! You can play the backup of TOCA 3 but you need to use the original game first to create a profile, after that you can use the backup copy not of the hdd. Well you must full of it!! I'd like to see how you can play this game of the hdd because I know at the moment that it's not possible.
PS
Even with using your backup no one knows how long you can play the game before the gamesave becomes corrupted.
Post by: rocky5 on February 27, 2006, 01:39:00 PM
its not impossible i cant prove it cos i cant get the debug bios to load the virtual drives but if you want it to work use the Krayzie Ndure SOFTMOD Pack to softmod the xbox and i bet you all the cash in the world it works. needs nkpatcher 6 or higher softmod pack uses 10 so works a treat.
Then use the virtual drive to load the xiso and use the iso ripper.xbe to make the iso of the game on the xbox dose all the name and stuff of the game for you and if the game is over 4GB it splits it up so use that to make the iso but if its the retail you will need to make the iso on the pc the tranfer the iso to the xbox because xbox retail discs size are 6.701mb when they arent then you put the attach.xbe in the folder with the iso and rename it to default.xbe and play
This post has been edited by rocky5: Feb 27 2006, 09:50 PM
Post by: rocky5 on February 27, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
This post has been edited by rocky5: Feb 27 2006, 11:38 PM
Post by: rocky5 on February 27, 2006, 04:09:00 PM
http://media.putfile.com/Working-toca-3-backup
This post has been edited by rocky5: Feb 28 2006, 12:09 AM
Post by: cornatbeat on February 27, 2006, 04:11:00 PM
very nice findings (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
i'll give driveimage a try tomorrow.
along with your findings and the "thoughts" about the filenames with numbers ( http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=492703 ), someone with the propper "debugging-setup" could and should come up with a fix in no time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: jonels on February 27, 2006, 04:55:00 PM
I myself only have a standard HD so no backup yet for me :-( even though I do have a softmod Nkpatcher setup.
At least your discovery should help crack the protection.
Post by: rocky5 on February 27, 2006, 05:20:00 PM
you can run the game fine with just part 1 it run like the original no crashes all modes work and i dont think that the game check the size of the disc i think that if you patch the default.xbe file the game stops working right when you use iso ripper it dosnt patch the file it just makes 100% backup of the disc so this may be y it works fine iam currently burning a DVDrw with the first part of the iso to see if it will work i will let you guys know how i get on.
This post has been edited by rocky5: Feb 28 2006, 01:20 AM
Post by: jonels on February 27, 2006, 05:31:00 PM
Are you implying if I have the 4GB ISO (first part) and the default.xbe (virtual drive xbe), then I could put them on a normal DVD -/+R... so at run time the virtual drive (default.xbe) would run which mounts the image which is also on the disc. Maybe you could try that?
edit.. stupid me, I see you already said you are going to try that.... doh
This post has been edited by jonels: Feb 28 2006, 01:36 AM
Post by: rocky5 on February 27, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
so we have a 100% working backup of the game all we need to do now is get the game to run off the Hdd with out virtual drive.
This post has been edited by rocky5: Feb 28 2006, 01:42 AM
Post by: jonels on February 27, 2006, 05:41:00 PM
Post by: rocky5 on February 27, 2006, 06:17:00 PM
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/rocky5/xbox/untitled.jpg)
Post by: Horscht on February 27, 2006, 08:27:00 PM
Do I have to burn the image onto a cd (Nero -> burn image to disk/ Alcohol 120)
or do I have to make a new data compilation DVD with the ISO file on it and the drive-image-tools?
Post by: Joshua Wood on February 27, 2006, 10:33:00 PM
Try ripping a dvd9 movie to your fat32 file as an ISO...same deal (except it might split it into 1gb chunks....)
Post by: kero on February 27, 2006, 11:36:00 PM
Post by: DevoDave on February 28, 2006, 12:38:00 AM
I hope someone's working on a decent fix for this because it just killed my profile before I had a chance to get to Bathurst with the V8's!!!
(Playing a DVD-R backup.)
Post by: rocky5 on February 28, 2006, 02:29:00 AM
Post by: rocky5 on February 28, 2006, 03:06:00 AM
I patched the default.xbe and put it back in the iso and work fine still 100% working.
Post by: mtbrown on February 28, 2006, 03:39:00 AM
And does it work on executer 3
Any help would be usefull for me at this statge.
Thanks
Post by: Horscht on February 28, 2006, 04:03:00 AM
please check your PM.
Post by: kero on February 28, 2006, 04:06:00 AM
QUOTE(mtbrown @ Feb 28 2006, 11:10 AM)
where can you find iso ripper, is it known as anything else ?
And does it work on executer 3
Any help would be usefull for me at this statge.
Thanks
You usually get it with the nkpatcher .. (have a look at eurasia nu for details)
and search for drive image utilities 1.0.1
Im pretty sure you can only use it with the nkpatcher softmod as i dont think it works as a standalone
This post has been edited by kero: Feb 28 2006, 12:11 PM
Post by: disruptive_intensions on February 28, 2006, 03:44:00 AM
i just brought v8 supercars 3 (racedriver 3) yesterday and love the game... but when im at work, my flat mate plays my xbox, and on occasions has buggered discs. I wanted to copy this game to my hdd in my softmodded xbox (i also have a couple of my other fav games on there so he doesnt stuff those originals either) but as you know, that doesnt work
now i think i read that i can make a backup onto dvd using my pc? is this correct? or do i do something with it on the hdd it get it working?
can someone please explain a little in simplton english for me as to what to do?
thanks heaps guys... your help is always appreciated.
Post by: rocky5 on February 28, 2006, 04:49:00 AM
now you need the original for this to work i think
[infect file removed]
I'am 100% positive you cannot copy the game the normal way you have to use ISO Ripper.xbe the game will just hang like the copy going about the net do not download this buy the original and use ISO Ripper to make your iso for HDD use only and use nkpatcher and virtual drive to play.
This post has been edited by HSDEMONZ: Mar 2 2006, 04:56 AM
Post by: disruptive_intensions on February 28, 2006, 05:39:00 AM
just now, the strangest thing i have ever seen just happened.
i need to know what the startup 'flubber' video is like on the xbox360 if anyone can link to it thanks...
well anyway, i just turned on my softmodded xbox, put v8 supercars 3 in, shut the draw, and the disk started booting up (instead of UIX dash) but then it played a flubber screen xbox animation, which DEFINATLY wasnt the normal xbox one and came up with the error saying "This is an xbox game disc. Please insert it in an xbox to play. game disc is not compatible with xbox 360" WTF?
are the flubber animations and stuff stored on the disc for 360 or what? cos i dont know, as they arent even for sale in new zealand yet! i took a photo of the error screen, and will post it as soon as i get it onto the pc but i was too shocked to get the animation...
then i turned the box off, and it restarted to the game perfect?
if it helps, i was just playing BLACK from the hdd which i had just backed up from my original copy.
This post has been edited by disruptive_intensions: Feb 28 2006, 01:47 PM
Post by: Horscht on February 28, 2006, 05:54:00 AM
Sou you won't need to "upgrade" to Ndure, but simply run the virtual drive as it was explained.
Post by: disruptive_intensions on February 28, 2006, 06:02:00 AM
thanks for the help, ill try it all tomrrow.
anyone able to shed some light on that random flubber screen and error i got though?
(that error was on my XBOX not a 360)
Post by: rocky5 on February 28, 2006, 08:16:00 AM
Post by: hurders on February 28, 2006, 08:17:00 AM
Post by: Horscht on February 28, 2006, 09:00:00 AM
I just recreated such an Iso and currently ftping it to my xbox (doing the attahcer method.)
I will post results later
EDIT:
unfortunatelly my Idea didn't work out. Rebuilding an Iso using the layout file gives the same result as a normal disk copy. Game freezes after creating a new profile, and freezes when selecting World Tour Mode
This narrows it down to a TOC check of TOCA. I checks the TOC for the disk size. Using rocky5s method using iso-ripper results in a TOC of the full 6.7 Gb on the 4Gb Iso. Therefore TOCA will not crap out.
(Still, just a wild guess from me!)
This post has been edited by Horscht: Feb 28 2006, 05:08 PM
Post by: rocky5 on February 28, 2006, 09:11:00 AM
Post by: hurders on February 28, 2006, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: rocky5 on February 28, 2006, 10:11:00 AM
Post by: rocky5 on February 28, 2006, 12:03:00 PM
Download here
This post has been edited by rocky5: Feb 28 2006, 08:04 PM
Post by: mick0275 on February 28, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
Post by: rocky5 on February 28, 2006, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: shadow23 on March 01, 2006, 12:17:00 AM
Post by: disruptive_intensions on March 01, 2006, 12:45:00 AM
if i just rename these files to their original files names will it run from the hdd? or am i missing something here?
Post by: disruptive_intensions on March 01, 2006, 01:35:00 AM
but would Rocky5 care to type out how to do this, in a way all us noobs such as myself can understand? kind of in a tutorial kind of way... as ive already found scratches on the disc
and i dont have the heart to not let em play it
Post by: ItchyB on March 01, 2006, 03:04:00 AM
So
1. put Iso ripper in your apps directory on E
2. put game in DVD drive
3. Run Iso ripper (screen will go black during the process then back to dash, be patient)
4. look in gmaes directory of F; you should now have a folder for v8 supercars3 with 2 ISO files and a default.xbe.
5. Transfer the 4gb ISO to your PC, and burn to disk.
You should now have a playable backup.
Post by: Horscht on March 01, 2006, 03:10:00 AM
If you still got a stock HD installed in your xbox, there is no way for you to create a backup.
Post by: ItchyB on March 01, 2006, 03:30:00 AM
Post by: kero on March 01, 2006, 04:20:00 AM
QUOTE(ItchyB @ Mar 1 2006, 11:01 AM)
Correct, you need a hdd with 6.5GB free space on F; or ISO ripper wont work.
And can you do it without the softmod and virtual drive???
Post by: Horscht on March 01, 2006, 04:35:00 AM
Playing it from HD: no
This post has been edited by Horscht: Mar 1 2006, 12:36 PM
Post by: DevoDave on March 01, 2006, 05:00:00 AM
Damn! I want to get to the V8's and have a stab at a hot lap around Bathurst.
Someone get a fix for this ASAP!!! Heartfelt thanks!!
Post by: ItchyB on March 01, 2006, 05:00:00 AM
Post by: jonels on March 01, 2006, 05:03:00 AM
QUOTE(kero @ Mar 1 2006, 12:51 PM)
And can you do it without the softmod and virtual drive???
kero, have you tried ripping your original with the ripper.xbe from virtual drive tools and ftping the first part of the iso to your PC and burning that straight to disc ? Aparently this works too and would work on all xboxes, chipped or softmodded, theres no need to use the virtual drive if you are running by disc
It would be nice if another person could confirm this works, unfortunatly I cannot becuse of the standard HD I have.
Post by: disruptive_intensions on March 01, 2006, 05:18:00 AM
put original game in drive.
ran ISORIPPER.
but no black screen. instead its the UIX loading screen (i use UIX Dash) ... is this correct?
Post by: ItchyB on March 01, 2006, 05:25:00 AM
Post by: rocky5 on March 01, 2006, 05:26:00 AM
if you have then follow these.
1.download image drive 1.0.1 (virtual drive)
2.transfer the file called ISO Ripper.xbe to the xbox
3.now put your original copy of Race driver 3 in the xbox
4.you must have over 6.7Gb's on the hdd
5.now locate ISO ripper.xbe and pic it now wait the screen hangs but it hasnt just wait
6.after about 1hr it should go back to the dash now you should find a folder
7.called v8 supercars 3 or race driver 3 in it you will have 4 files 1. default.xbe 2. errorsectors.bin 3. v8 supercars 3 or race driver 3 part 1 and part 2 delete part 2
you dont need this and delete the errorsector.bin aswell and pick the default.xbe and the game will load if you want a backup then transfer the iso to the pc and burn thats it.
and for splintercell all original xbox game tell the xbox that thay are 6.7gbs so to do this with an original you need to have an f drive or G drive.
Post by: Horscht on March 01, 2006, 05:38:00 AM
The softmod is only need for the virtual CD drive.
Post by: ItchyB on March 01, 2006, 05:06:00 AM
QUOTE(Horscht @ Mar 1 2006, 10:39 PM)
I don't think you need to have a softmodded xbox to use the iso_ripper.xbe.
The softmod is only need for the virtual CD drive.
Correct, I have used Rocky5 instructions to get the ISO on a Hardmod then burnt the ISO.
Works a treat
Thanks Rocky5
Post by: jonels on March 01, 2006, 05:45:00 AM
see this thread http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=411052 and use the simple setup but uncheck shadow c: (you don't need it as you have your mod-chips for rescue and will make removing the softmod easier afterwards)
Make sure your hard drive is locked to your xbox (important, softmods will fail on un-locked drives) ,backup your current c:\ setup then transfer the files created in the NDure setup, c: and e: (nkpatcher is used with this setup so you're good to go)... turn off your chip and boot up. If you adventurous you could tune your setup afterwards so the files from each setup won't interfere with each other, giving you the best of both worlds, otherwise return your file setup as it was and turn your chip back on. (disabling the shadow c: in the ndure setup will make this a breeze otherwise you need to take steps to access the real c:)
note.. the rip process has no interface so you will have a blank/frozen screen for 1/2hour to an 1 hour.
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 01, 2006, 06:19:00 AM
QUOTE(rocky5 @ Feb 28 2006, 01:20 PM)
Here's a dump of the image of the working backup Download here
now you need the original for this to work i think
[infect file removed]
I'am 100% positive you cannot copy the game the normal way you have to use ISO Ripper.xbe the game will just hang like the copy going about the net do not download this buy the original and use ISO Ripper to make your iso for HDD use only and use nkpatcher and virtual drive to play.
WHY HAS VIRTUAL TOOLS CONTAIN TROJAN
Post by: jonels on March 01, 2006, 07:00:00 AM
QUOTE(rabbitstroker @ Mar 1 2006, 03:26 PM)
WHY HAS VIRTUAL TOOLS CONTAIN TROJAN
I don't see how, there no PC executable in the package, at least in the one I got off xbins
edit.. Oh yeh, the one from that link contains an added mp3_plugin.exe ??? WTH is that ?
This post has been edited by jonels: Mar 1 2006, 03:05 PM
Post by: Clinton Williams on March 01, 2006, 06:25:00 AM
QUOTE(ItchyB @ Mar 1 2006, 11:13 PM)
Correct, I have used Rocky5 instructions to get the ISO on a Hardmod then burnt the ISO.
Works a treat
Thanks Rocky5
I too can confirm Rocky5's instructions work. Ran iso ripper from E:\apps with XBMC on hardmod xbox, screen blacked out for about 45min, then all OK. Will attempt to run game from HD?
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 01, 2006, 06:30:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Mar 1 2006, 03:31 PM)
I don't see how, there no PC executable in the package, at least in the one I got off xbins
HERE YA GO
following folders are in the rar that rocky links to
driveimageutils
freesoftware.url
mp3_plugin.exe(trojan-DOWNLOADER-XZ)
iM USING MCAFFE WICH PICKED UP AND DELETED THE TROJAN AUTOMATICLY
Post by: StormB on March 01, 2006, 07:06:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Mar 1 2006, 02:16 PM)
Modchip users, if you have the ability to turn off your modchip..ie boot retail.. read on
see this thread http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=411052 and use the simple setup but uncheck shadow c: (you don't need it as you have your mod-chips for rescue and will make removing the softmod easier afterwards)
Make sure your hard drive is locked to your xbox (important, softmods will fail on un-locked drives) ,backup your current c:\ setup then transfer the files created in the NDure setup, c: and e: (nkpatcher is used with this setup so you're good to go)... turn off your chip and boot up. If you adventurous you could tune your setup afterwards so the files from each setup won't interfere with each other, giving you the best of both worlds, otherwise return your file setup as it was and turn your chip back on. (disabling the shadow c: in the ndure setup will make this a breeze otherwise you need to take steps to access the real c:)
note.. the rip process has no interface so you will have a blank/frozen screen for 1/2hour to an 1 hour.
I don't think this is particularly necessary. As far as I understand it, you can still rip the game with a modchip installed and switched on. The only reason you need the softmod installer is because there is a program in it (iso ripper) which is used to rip the iso. The softmod isn't actually installed to the HD, you just need that file.
Am I right, or have I got my wires crossed?
Will
Post by: jonels on March 01, 2006, 06:31:00 AM
QUOTE(Clinton Williams @ Mar 1 2006, 03:32 PM)
I too can confirm Rocky5's instructions work. Ran iso ripper from E:\apps with XBMC on hardmod xbox, screen blacked out for about 45min, then all OK. Will attempt to run game from HD?
It will probably just crash running off the HDD. Did you burn the part1 ISO to disc and try that ?
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 01, 2006, 06:33:00 AM
They rock
, sadly others do'nt
Post by: jonels on March 01, 2006, 07:10:00 AM
QUOTE(StormB @ Mar 1 2006, 03:37 PM)
I don't think this is particularly necessary. As far as I understand it, you can still rip the game with a modchip installed and switched on. The only reason you need the softmod installer is because there is a program in it (iso ripper) which is used to rip the iso. The softmod isn't actually installed to the HD, you just need that file.
Am I right, or have I got my wires crossed?
Will
Yes I think you're right, it just that it mentions in the readme that nkpatcher is needed to run the utilities, but from the other posters in this thread it would seem the ripper.xbe works fine on chipped boxes.
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 01, 2006, 07:10:00 AM
QUOTE(rocky5 @ Feb 28 2006, 01:20 PM)
Here's a dump of the image of the working backup Download here
now you need the original for this to work i think
[infected file removed]
I'am 100% positive you cannot copy the game the normal way you have to use ISO Ripper.xbe the game will just hang like the copy going about the net do not download this buy the original and use ISO Ripper to make your iso for HDD use only and use nkpatcher and virtual drive to play.
and here's the virtual drive Download here
Quote
Can this link please be removed
Post by: rocky5 on March 01, 2006, 07:35:00 AM
if not i will delete this one this one is just the file not virus sorry dint know ith had them it
never came up on my comp i use AVG
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ozq59z
This post has been edited by rocky5: Mar 1 2006, 03:38 PM
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 01, 2006, 07:42:00 AM
You ned to go back to your post on page 4-5 and edit out the link mate.
Much appreciated all you've done, respectomundo dude.
Post by: StormB on March 01, 2006, 07:52:00 AM
I know the game itself is less than 4GB, but the files could be arranged on the original disk so that they are positioned after the 4GB marker when ripping - hence they might not be included when re-burning to DVD-R?
Will
Post by: rocky5 on March 01, 2006, 07:57:00 AM
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 01, 2006, 09:29:00 AM
So far working perfect off hdd, gonna burn to cd after ive had a bash
Post by: absvicandmark on March 01, 2006, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: jonels on March 01, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
QUOTE(absvicandmark @ Mar 1 2006, 07:12 PM)
Will this work with a burnt iso alradey ie DL ISO Ripper and put in xbox apps. Run iso ripper, put in burnt disc, iso ripper puts new files on F. FTP 2 pc then reburn?
Probably not as the ripper.xbe will not report the correct TOC size (6.7GB) which is why it is thought this method works.
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 01, 2006, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: dontasciime on March 01, 2006, 12:30:00 PM
found out that first by using dvd2xbox 63 froze at 18% then used 074 went all the way thru until the end, at that time i did not realise i could not play it from HD, and furthermore did not realise my 2 backups on dvd-r did not work correctly.
Since then found out why, and used the iso ripper you are on about on here, tried it with my backup first to see if it completed the task which it did, then tried with my original, it failed and probs locked up at 18%, waited 2 hours EVEN though they earlier attempt using backup took 12 minutes, decided to leave it for at least 1 hour and then for another, i knew it was not working but had to make sure i gave it enough time, i have 12 gig free on F:
What i find interesting is that by the people that say they can get it to work this way, how does the iso ripper get the 5 81+ char filenames to tx to FATX32 using this ripper, would not have thought it would work, I am on about the people that are not running the softmod, virtual file system etc
It may have been a fluke that it locked up this time, just about to try again.
You gotta laugh though
This post has been edited by dontasciime: Mar 1 2006, 08:31 PM
Post by: Horscht on March 01, 2006, 12:58:00 PM
THe iso_ripper.xbe creates an iso file from the DVD to the HD. Thereofore, the 81 character files are not problem, as they do not exist in the HD directly, but in the iso file. for the FatX, it's just 1 file, called TOCA3.iso (or whatever).
Post by: cornatbeat on March 01, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
isoripper creates a two part image of the original disc. it does NOT copy the files.
there is currently NO way of getting toca3 to work from hdd other than this isoripper.
( read on the first page of this topic about my filenames with digits theory )
@all
i have a serious problem. isoripper seems to crash(hangs at evox loading screen). i left the box alone for more than 3 hours but NO image can be found, no backup.log, nothing at all. i know there is NO textoutput but after 3 hours it should be done, but it still hangs at the loadingscreen.
config :
xbox 1.0 with tsop (evox m7 bios), thomson drive, f-drive with 25gigs free
isoripperpath: e:\apps\isoripper
backup.cfg:
-----
# Xbox ISO Ripper configuration file
# Primary backup directory is the first choice under which to put the backup
PrimaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games
# Secondary backup directory is used if the primary can't (no space left)
SecondaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition7\games
# Slice the ISO into parts this big. Keep it divisible by the sector size 2048.
# Also don't go close to the FATX file size limit.
SliceSize 0xffe00000
# Define to write debug messages to backuplog.txt. May be useful in finding out
# what's wrong, when it doesn't work. Default log file name is backuplog.txt.
Debug true
DebugLog backuplog.txt
-----EOF
i am not stupid and i am not a noob, but where's the problem?!
thanks in advance for help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: surtees on March 01, 2006, 12:40:00 PM
QUOTE(Dreamcazman @ Feb 24 2006, 07:36 AM)
I got the game today (V8 Supercars 3 in Aus) and I noticed there are 5 files in the root directory of what seems to be random numbers. I've searched the xbe for references to these files but haven't found anything. I will look deeper to see if I can come up with anything.
I'm a bit annoyed I can't dump it to the HDD, but hopefully a fix will come soon.
i noticed when i copied it over and put it into an iso, the files transfer over normally,but when you check the files,i noticed that they are all scrambled...I.E. not in the same order as when transferred over,whether this has anything to do with it i don't know....there is a fix for this,but i haven't got the link handy,it's a fix for the UK game so i don't know if it will work on V8 supercars,as we have it as an option in our main menu and toca 3 doesn't...also i can play world tour off my back up,what you have to do is run the original thru your xbox first and play a race or two in world tour and make sure it auto saved...will only work on the one profile,if you want to use more than one profile you'll have to use the original disc again to create different profile.
Post by: dontasciime on March 01, 2006, 01:39:00 PM
This post has been edited by dontasciime: Mar 1 2006, 09:40 PM
Post by: surtees on March 01, 2006, 01:14:00 PM
QUOTE(dontasciime @ Mar 1 2006, 09:10 PM)
i know it will not work from the hd, and i know it rips to ISO, so wtf i asked about filenames is beyond me:)
i'm not the one for being able to make patches etc,i'm playing world tour now in V8 supercars,on my backup,
i can also play everything else except world tour on toca race driver 3 backup with a fix that i found on the net.....if i'm allowed and can work out how to upload i will,it does work but NOT world tour...
Post by: Horscht on March 01, 2006, 01:15:00 PM
QUOTE(dontasciime @ Mar 1 2006, 08:01 PM)
*snip*
how does the iso ripper get the 5 81+ char filenames to tx to FATX32 using this ripper, would not have thought it would work
*snip*
That's what made me assume you were asking about it. Sorry if I missundertood you.
Post by: mick0275 on March 01, 2006, 02:20:00 PM
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 01, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
You can get this at the usuall places and it includs iso ripper
Post by: jonels on March 01, 2006, 02:52:00 PM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 1 2006, 10:21 PM)
i'm not the one for being able to make patches etc,i'm playing world tour now in V8 supercars,on my backup,
i can also play everything else except world tour on toca race driver 3 backup with a fix that i found on the net.....if i'm allowed and can work out how to upload i will,it does work but NOT world tour...
Yes we know about that fix and I wouldn't put it up as it may result in you getting a ban.
Anyway the savegame fix corrupts after a while which was the main reason for this fix.
Thanks for the good intentions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Post by: XLNC on March 01, 2006, 08:07:00 PM
However I have finally got ISO ripper to rip World Championship snooker 2004 (disc in mint condition) but the damn thing won't start it just keeps sending me back to dashboard, any ideas why this doesn't work on modded xbox's?
Do I need to lock my harddrive?
Post by: rocky5 on March 01, 2006, 08:18:00 PM
This post has been edited by rocky5: Mar 2 2006, 04:19 AM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 01, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
Post by: disruptive_intensions on March 02, 2006, 12:55:00 AM
i have been playing from both my HDD and a backup DVD!
ISO Ripper hung on the UIX screen rather than the blank screen as it did for others...
this is a great method... and works flawlessly.
Cheers bro.
Post by: surtees on March 02, 2006, 01:08:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Mar 1 2006, 10:23 PM)
Yes we know about that fix and I wouldn't put it up as it may result in you getting a ban.
Anyway the savegame fix corrupts after a while which was the main reason for this fix.
Thanks for the good intentions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
no worries (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)....
heres what is was told to do
Quote
Simply FTP the UDATA fodler into your E-Drive and overwrite if asked.
This will install a 1% save-game enabaling people to bypass the
original problem that needed a reboot after creation.
GLOBAL MODE, Is Fully playable using this save (1% (Tier 1 complete))Quoteworks like a charm....no crashes as of yet and been playing for quite awhile.
thats with toca race driver 3,i haven't tried it with the australian version of V8 supercars 3 yet.
Post by: Joshua Wood on March 02, 2006, 01:08:00 AM
I'm not entirely sure on this, but with the new understanding of the FW on xbox drives, you might be able to rip this using a PC and burn to a d/l drive (in the way the original xbox360 discs were backed up, or via the correct challenge/response codes sent to the drive to unlock it's full contents (might need to use linux to get it working)).
Although seems easier to use iso ripper
Just wondering, a little OT, does anyone know why virtual drive doesn't work with modchips? I'm not fussed about playing the game from the hdd, I'm just curious... generall softmod people have a harder time getting games to run... I guess this is just karma
Also, using an iso ripper backup, do you still need an original save from the retail disc? I don't have the game so can't check, or can u just use the backup?
Kudos to Rocky5, btw.
Post by: surtees on March 02, 2006, 01:19:00 AM
QUOTE(Joshua Wood @ Mar 2 2006, 09:15 AM)
Sounds like iso ripper is just doing a sector dump of the disc, whcih is why all xbox games are 6.7gb. It does seem like the protection is in the TOC check. Maybe the same reason why it doesn't work on the hdd...(I guess you could call this a new media check of sorts).
I'm not entirely sure on this, but with the new understanding of the FW on xbox drives, you might be able to rip this using a PC and burn to a d/l drive (in the way the original xbox360 discs were backed up, or via the correct challenge/response codes sent to the drive to unlock it's full contents (might need to use linux to get it working)).
Although seems easier to use iso ripper
Just wondering, a little OT, does anyone know why virtual drive doesn't work with modchips? I'm not fussed about playing the game from the hdd, I'm just curious... generall softmod people have a harder time getting games to run... I guess this is just karma
Also, using an iso ripper backup, do you still need an original save from the retail disc? I don't have the game so can't check, or can u just use the backup?
Kudos to Rocky5, btw.
seems as though everyone has different ways of backing up,i did it the old school way,FTP'ing and using isocraxtion,applied the first fix,but didn't fully work,found another fix and FTP'd it into the udata folder and away it went,there must be 2 fixes out is there? as i applied one to the ISO,then FTP'd a gamesave fix into the udata folder of toca 3,and yeah like i said away everything went,all working good,being playing for ages like i said and no crashes or anything.
Post by: rocky5 on March 02, 2006, 02:23:00 AM
Post by: shadow23 on March 02, 2006, 02:46:00 AM
Thanks for any help!
Post by: rocky5 on March 02, 2006, 02:48:00 AM
Post by: Dreamcazman on March 02, 2006, 02:52:00 AM
I'd like to run it from the HDD instead of using a DVD-R. I thought it was possible as a few other members here have done it. I must be doing something wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
This post has been edited by Dreamcazman: Mar 2 2006, 11:00 AM
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 02, 2006, 02:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Dreamcazman @ Mar 2 2006, 11:23 AM)
Rocky5 - I used isoripper to rip the game to the HDD but whenever I try to run it from XBMC (or Evox) it resets the Xbox! It went throught the ripping process no problems as I ended up with the game folder on F drive containing the 4 files.
I'd like to run it from the HDD instead of using a DVD-R. I thought it was possible as a few other members here have done it. I must be doing something wrong.
Yup you must be doing something wrong, the instructions are in these posts, i found them to be quite simple considering rocky pionts out what things are called qand wghat should be done with them.
You cant use this way of backing up with a chipped box, only softmodded with nkpatcher
Post by: shadow23 on March 02, 2006, 03:04:00 AM
QUOTE(rabbitstroker @ Mar 2 2006, 08:33 PM)
Yup you must be doing something wrong, the instructions are in these posts, i found them to be quite simple considering rocky pionts out what things are called qand wghat should be done with them.
You cant use this way of backing up with a chipped box, only softmodded with nkpatcher
How long did it take to rip TOCA 3?
Post by: rocky5 on March 02, 2006, 03:31:00 AM
Title ID: 434d0050
Title directory: Race_Driver_3-434d0050
Total size: 0x00000001a2db0000 bytes
Backup directory: \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games\Virtual drive
Ripping time: 55 minutes 16 seconds
Post by: mtbrown on March 02, 2006, 03:45:00 AM
Any help would be appriciated. on why the game is not playing or why there is no files on the disc.
Thanks
Post by: Clinton Williams on March 02, 2006, 03:13:00 AM
QUOTE(rabbitstroker @ Mar 2 2006, 08:33 PM)
Yup you must be doing something wrong, the instructions are in these posts, i found them to be quite simple considering rocky pionts out what things are called qand wghat should be done with them.
You cant use this way of backing up with a chipped box, only softmodded with nkpatcher
Yes you can backup with a chipped xbox. Simply download driveimageutils-v1.0.1.zip and extract to folder on pc. Ftp the folder \isoripper from driveimageutils-v1.0.1\apps to your xbox E:\apps\isoripper. Then use XBMC to run isoripper with the original disk (v8 supercars) in the xbox. The sreen will go blank for about 45min and you will then have a folder E:\games\racedriver3...... with an iso in it .....Part_1.iso and .....Part_2.iso. Ftp the part_1.iso back to your computer and burn to a dvd. Works no problems. Cannot run game from Hdd on xbox though.
Post by: Dreamcazman on March 02, 2006, 03:19:00 AM
QUOTE(rabbitstroker @ Mar 2 2006, 07:33 PM)
Yup you must be doing something wrong, the instructions are in these posts, i found them to be quite simple considering rocky pionts out what things are called qand wghat should be done with them.
You cant use this way of backing up with a chipped box, only softmodded with nkpatcher
Yeah I also found them quite simple (I'm not thick!)
I missed the part about it not working with a chipped box, which I have.
QUOTE(Clinton Williams @ Mar 2 2006, 08:20 PM)
Yes you can backup with a chipped xbox. Simply download driveimageutils-v1.0.1.zip and extract to folder on pc. Ftp the folder \isoripper from driveimageutils-v1.0.1\apps to your xbox E:\apps\isoripper. Then use XBMC to run isoripper with the original disk (v8 supercars) in the xbox. The sreen will go blank for about 45min and you will then have a folder E:\games\racedriver3...... with an iso in it .....Part_1.iso and .....Part_2.iso. Ftp the part_1.iso back to your computer and burn to a dvd. Works no problems. Cannot run game from Hdd on xbox though.
Thanks Clinton for the confirmation.
Post by: rocky5 on March 02, 2006, 03:25:00 AM
QUOTE(mtbrown @ Mar 2 2006, 11:16 AM)
I have burnt part 1 of the toca 3 to dvd, the disc comes up saying there is 4 gig on it. but there are no files on the dvd. I burnt it using nero burn image.
Any help would be appriciated. on why the game is not playing or why there is no files on the disc.
Thanks
Are you looking at the disc on the pc and not the xbox; xbox dics cant be read in a normal dvd drive; if your xbox drive cant see the files then i havent a clue.
Post by: Joshua Wood on March 02, 2006, 04:06:00 AM
Or do I still need to run the original retail at least once? I'm more curious than anything, eps about a situation where the save gets deleted/lost and the original damaged. Still not sure if I will even buy this game. Off to read more reviews...
Post by: incher on March 02, 2006, 03:32:00 AM
- would this work on any modded xbox therefore theoretically possible to up somewhere?Cheers
Post by: mtbrown on March 02, 2006, 03:36:00 AM
QUOTE(rocky5 @ Mar 2 2006, 11:32 AM)
Are you looking at the disc on the pc and not the xbox; xbox dics cant be read in a normal dvd drive; if your xbox drive cant see the files then i havent a clue.
Im looking at the disc on the xbox. it see's the disc size of 4 gig, but nothing on there.
Thanks
Post by: jonels on March 02, 2006, 05:25:00 AM
QUOTE(mtbrown @ Mar 2 2006, 12:43 PM)
Im looking at the disc on the xbox. it see's the disc size of 4 gig, but nothing on there.
Thanks
Only thing I can think of is that the iso-ripper hs gone wrong or you manged to burn the ISO as a single file in standard data format (does anything show up on the disc in explorer on your pc?)
Try burning the iso with alcohol120% or dvd decrypter, that way you can't go wrong.
Post by: XLNC on March 02, 2006, 06:22:00 AM
Can this app be made compatible chipped xbox's?
Post by: jonels on March 02, 2006, 05:56:00 AM
QUOTE(XLNC @ Mar 2 2006, 02:53 PM)
Does the iso need to be burnt as a data file with the isoripper.xbe in there named default.xbe i.e. use DVD UDF and tick the option to make it compatible with xbox, drag iso and .xbe file and burn or is this wrong?
Can this app be made compatible chipped xbox's?
For all boxes.. run the ripper, ftp part1.iso to PC and then burn as you would any other ISO image.
For Nkpatcher boxes... you have the option of mounting the iso on the hard drive by launching the default.xbe which is created with the part1 and part2 iso files (you can delete part2.iso as its not accessed to save space)
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 02, 2006, 06:23:00 AM
QUOTE
Virtual C drive and CD/DVD drive utilities v1.0.1
-------------------------------------------------
The following utilities are to be used in connection with nkpatcher version 8:
* ISO image ripper
* Shadow C drive maker
* Virtual disc attacher
* Virtual disc detacher
None of these have any kind of a user interface; they work silently. So wait
while the software does it's work.
Nkpatcher version 8.1 is included in the nkpatcher8.1.zip file of this package. It
is considered a separate program from this package. However, you should install
it before using these utilities.
Installation
------------
Copy everything under the apps directory in this package to your Xbox harddrive.
Usually a good place to copy to is either e:\apps or f:\apps so a dashboard
such as EvoX finds the utilities automatically.
ISO image ripper / CD&DVD ripper
--------------------------------
Insert a game disc into the drive and run the utility. There's no display output
or sound or anything, but just wait. For example, ripping a 6.7 GB game will take
about 40 minutes on my Xbox. After ripping, the utility returns to the dashboard
and you should be able to see the game in your games list.
The ISO image will be ripped to f:\games or g:\games depending on free space.
These directories can be changed by editing backup.cfg. In addition to the
.iso files, a default.xbe will also be created. This is the virtual disc attacher
utility. The title name is automatically copied from the game d:\default.xbe.
The same attacher file is included in the component directory of this package.
Shadow C drive maker
--------------------
This will create a one-to-one image of your current C drive to the file
e:\shadowc\shadowc.img. Nkpatcher version 8 will automatically mount this
image instead of the usual C drive. You can then install and update MS dashboard
without modifications to the retail booting C drive.
You should make sure that the shadow drive is actually mounted before deleting
or modifying key files. To test, create a file, say test.bin, to the root of
the supposed shadow drive. Then, using PBL, boot a bios without shadow drive support
(there are no released bioses with this feature ). Is the test file there? No?
Good. Then reboot the Xbox so that you get nkpatcher version 8 patches. Is the
file there now? Yes. Good. The shadow drive is working. Now you can let games
update your MS dashboard as they please.
Virtual disc attacher
---------------------
This is the file automatically created by the ISO backup utility and is also
contained in component\attach.xbe. When this xbe is run it will attach all
files with .iso extension in the same directory in alphabetical order using an
nkpatcher 8 system call. In case there are several .iso files in the directory,
these are assumed to be parts of the same big ISO file. Since Xbox FATX file system
has a file size limitation of 4 GB, big ISO files need to be sliced into smaller
parts. The ISO backup utility will do this automatically.
After attachement, this program will quick reboot the system. If the attached
ISO image contains a default.xbe in it's root directory, the kernel will execute
it as is usual. Running the attacher on game ISO images will therefore launch
the game.
Virtual disc detacher
---------------------
This will detach a previously attached set of sliced .iso files. If you for example
do IGR (In-Game Reset) and get back to dashboard, the game disc will still be
attached. You can browse it using e.g. boxplorer. You can run detacher to be able
to use your DVD drive again. Of course, doing a full reboot will achieve this
aswell (a dashboard option or nkpatcher with Full reboot -mode IGR.)
Miscellaneous
-------------
* If you choose to edit and slice some .iso files yourself, note that the
slice sizes MUST be multiples of 2048 bytes (sector size).
* The number of .iso slices is (compile-time) limited to 8, both in nkpatcher
and in the attacher application.
* The maximum file size for MS kernel FATX implementation appears to be somewhat
less than 4 GB - 1 bytes. Probably 4 GB minus cluster size, but I recommend
you keep it well below this (a megabyte or so).
* The ripped .iso image is unnecessarily large in this initial version. No
processing is done to the iso. A future version of the backup utility may
contain user selectable automatic optimization.
* The backup utility writes also an errorsectors.bin file. It contains 64-bit
sector numbers of those sectors for which read failed. Seems like all Xbox
game discs contain several unreadable (at least via the interface the backup
utility uses) sectors in exactly 8 MB runs, so don't panic if you get a 0.5 MB
errorsectors.bin.
* You can also backup ISO 9660 CDs and attach them. MS Xbox kernel doesn't support
the file system, but the contents can be used with Xbox Media Center.
Changes
-------
From v1.0 to v1.0.1:
* Includes the fixed nkpatcher 8.1 instead of version 8. No other changes.
Software License
----------------
This software is released under GNU General Public License version 2. See the
file COPYING for license details. There is absolutely NO WARRANTY.
Some source code is from Phoenix Bios Loader, which used parts of Xbox-Linux
project's xbeboot program. Please note that the modifications are heavy and
impractical to detail. This software is not embraced or endorsed by either
Phoenix or Xbox-Linux.
-rmenhal
-------------------------------------------------
The following utilities are to be used in connection with nkpatcher version 8:
* ISO image ripper
* Shadow C drive maker
* Virtual disc attacher
* Virtual disc detacher
None of these have any kind of a user interface; they work silently. So wait
while the software does it's work.
Nkpatcher version 8.1 is included in the nkpatcher8.1.zip file of this package. It
is considered a separate program from this package. However, you should install
it before using these utilities.
Installation
------------
Copy everything under the apps directory in this package to your Xbox harddrive.
Usually a good place to copy to is either e:\apps or f:\apps so a dashboard
such as EvoX finds the utilities automatically.
ISO image ripper / CD&DVD ripper
--------------------------------
Insert a game disc into the drive and run the utility. There's no display output
or sound or anything, but just wait. For example, ripping a 6.7 GB game will take
about 40 minutes on my Xbox. After ripping, the utility returns to the dashboard
and you should be able to see the game in your games list.
The ISO image will be ripped to f:\games or g:\games depending on free space.
These directories can be changed by editing backup.cfg. In addition to the
.iso files, a default.xbe will also be created. This is the virtual disc attacher
utility. The title name is automatically copied from the game d:\default.xbe.
The same attacher file is included in the component directory of this package.
Shadow C drive maker
--------------------
This will create a one-to-one image of your current C drive to the file
e:\shadowc\shadowc.img. Nkpatcher version 8 will automatically mount this
image instead of the usual C drive. You can then install and update MS dashboard
without modifications to the retail booting C drive.
You should make sure that the shadow drive is actually mounted before deleting
or modifying key files. To test, create a file, say test.bin, to the root of
the supposed shadow drive. Then, using PBL, boot a bios without shadow drive support
(there are no released bioses with this feature
). Is the test file there? No?Good. Then reboot the Xbox so that you get nkpatcher version 8 patches. Is the
file there now? Yes. Good. The shadow drive is working. Now you can let games
update your MS dashboard as they please.
Virtual disc attacher
---------------------
This is the file automatically created by the ISO backup utility and is also
contained in component\attach.xbe. When this xbe is run it will attach all
files with .iso extension in the same directory in alphabetical order using an
nkpatcher 8 system call. In case there are several .iso files in the directory,
these are assumed to be parts of the same big ISO file. Since Xbox FATX file system
has a file size limitation of 4 GB, big ISO files need to be sliced into smaller
parts. The ISO backup utility will do this automatically.
After attachement, this program will quick reboot the system. If the attached
ISO image contains a default.xbe in it's root directory, the kernel will execute
it as is usual. Running the attacher on game ISO images will therefore launch
the game.
Virtual disc detacher
---------------------
This will detach a previously attached set of sliced .iso files. If you for example
do IGR (In-Game Reset) and get back to dashboard, the game disc will still be
attached. You can browse it using e.g. boxplorer. You can run detacher to be able
to use your DVD drive again. Of course, doing a full reboot will achieve this
aswell (a dashboard option or nkpatcher with Full reboot -mode IGR.)
Miscellaneous
-------------
* If you choose to edit and slice some .iso files yourself, note that the
slice sizes MUST be multiples of 2048 bytes (sector size).
* The number of .iso slices is (compile-time) limited to 8, both in nkpatcher
and in the attacher application.
* The maximum file size for MS kernel FATX implementation appears to be somewhat
less than 4 GB - 1 bytes. Probably 4 GB minus cluster size, but I recommend
you keep it well below this (a megabyte or so).
* The ripped .iso image is unnecessarily large in this initial version. No
processing is done to the iso. A future version of the backup utility may
contain user selectable automatic optimization.
* The backup utility writes also an errorsectors.bin file. It contains 64-bit
sector numbers of those sectors for which read failed. Seems like all Xbox
game discs contain several unreadable (at least via the interface the backup
utility uses) sectors in exactly 8 MB runs, so don't panic if you get a 0.5 MB
errorsectors.bin.
* You can also backup ISO 9660 CDs and attach them. MS Xbox kernel doesn't support
the file system, but the contents can be used with Xbox Media Center.
Changes
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From v1.0 to v1.0.1:
* Includes the fixed nkpatcher 8.1 instead of version 8. No other changes.
Software License
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This software is released under GNU General Public License version 2. See the
file COPYING for license details. There is absolutely NO WARRANTY.
Some source code is from Phoenix Bios Loader, which used parts of Xbox-Linux
project's xbeboot program. Please note that the modifications are heavy and
impractical to detail. This software is not embraced or endorsed by either
Phoenix or Xbox-Linux.
-rmenhal
Post by: shadow23 on March 02, 2006, 08:08:00 AM
QUOTE
Copy everything under the apps directory in this package to your Xbox harddrive.
Usually a good place to copy to is either e:\apps or f:\apps so a dashboard
such as EvoX finds the utilities automatically.
Usually a good place to copy to is either e:\apps or f:\apps so a dashboard
such as EvoX finds the utilities automatically.
Now my xbox is running UnleashX, I then put my TOCA 3 (original game) in the xbox dvd drive and then I navigate through the "Apps" folder and select isoripper and it will run but everytime I try to copy the game it seems to take forever (after one hour it's still a black screen) like it's frozen or having trouble reading. The game does not have a scratch and my xbox dvd drive reads cd's too. So I don't know where I'm going wrong?
This post has been edited by shadow23: Mar 2 2006, 04:09 PM
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 02, 2006, 07:41:00 AM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 2 2006, 04:39 PM)
Well here's my deal. I have softmodded my xbox with Krayzie's NDure Installer (gamesave). I then copied all the apps like what was said here
Now my xbox is running UnleashX, I then put my TOCA 3 (original game) in the xbox dvd drive and then I navigate through the "Apps" folder and select isoripper and it will run but everytime I try to copy the game it seems to take forever (after one hour it's still a black screen) like it's frozen or having trouble reading. The game does not have a scratch and my xbox dvd drive reads cd's too. So I don't know where I'm going wrong?
Try changing your dash to evox or use xbmc to boot iso ripper
Post by: dontasciime on March 02, 2006, 12:38:00 PM
Anyways, i then gave up on my samsung with aladdin pro32or 64 and decided to use one of my other xboxes that has aladdin 32 non pro (basic chip i think thats what i used to chip it), using m7ej fix bios and thomson rom drive and it ripped to hard drive in 44 minutes, txed part 1 to pc then extracted it to make sure it had files, it did, then burnt using decrypter. It plays fine, so will test with my other xbox that also has a samsung drive in it and is using an x2 with m7ej fix bios in it, to see if its samsung drive itts struggling with or chip or bios, as a few people are saying leaving iso ripper going for more than an hour is not doing anything, though anyone in that postions should ftp into xbox, after it failing and tx log file in iso ripper folder to desktop and open it with word and have a look at what it's saying i was getting this on samsung with 4977 and alad chip.
---- Xbox ISO Ripper v1.0 ----
Title ID: 434d0050
Title directory: Race_Driver_3-434d0050
Total size: 0x00000001a2db0000 bytes
Backup directory: \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games
---- Xbox ISO Ripper v1.0 ----
Volume query failed in open_dvd_query, status: c0000010
Can't get title information, aborting, status: c0000013
---- Xbox ISO Ripper v1.0 ----
Title ID: 434d0050
Title directory: Race_Driver_3-434d0050
Total size: 0x00000001a2db0000 bytes
Backup directory: \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games
Ripping time: 62 minutes 57 seconds
note the ripping time was from the unsucessful iso that had no files in it that i mentioned above....
And the error.bin file is normal to have listed in directory for the person that was asking i think the readme says something about worry if its 5 meg or above but not to worry below that, i may be wrong on the numbers though, i did have one that was 26 meg or above and that was not a good outcome.
Will post later if i cannot use my other samsung to rip...
Post by: schmiew1 on March 02, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
Post by: jonels on March 02, 2006, 01:24:00 PM
@ 'schmiew1' ..is yours a sammy and is it the old or new type ?
Post by: rocky5 on March 02, 2006, 01:43:00 PM
Post by: rabbitstroker on March 02, 2006, 01:18:00 PM
QUOTE
* You can also backup ISO 9660 CDs and attach them. MS Xbox kernel doesn't support
the file system, but the contents can be used with Xbox Media Center.
the file system, but the contents can be used with Xbox Media Center.
Post by: cornatbeat on March 02, 2006, 02:34:00 PM
i've been able to fix my problem with ISORIPPER :
Xbox V1.0
Thomson DVD-Drive
EVOX M7 (with 48bit LBA) with TSOP Flash
Dashboard EVOX +3935 (any older version resulted in crashing ISORIPPER)
ISORIPPER Path : "E:\Apps\isoripper"
the ripping went fine and took about 45 minutes. i've burned the first part of the toca3 image and it works like a charm
.i'm now at tier 9 in worldtour mode and i've played ALL oval-challanges in pro-mode. gameprogress is at 25%. with the old backup the corrupt savegame occurred after 18%.
i've also counted the files on the original disc and the backup disc using boxplorer. they are equal, so i dont think in toca3_part2.iso is any file or needed data.
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: Joshua Wood on March 02, 2006, 03:11:00 PM
Also, out of interest, has anyone tried ripping the working backup using dvd2xbox? I know it WONT work on the hdd, but I'm interested in the file size. I would guess you'd get 4gb, but what is the extra stuff if the game is only 3.xgb???? I would have thought it would write blank space the dvd to pad it out to 4gb (would have padded to 6.7 but the rest is in iso part 2), while leaving the TOC at 6.7.
It's either gotta be empy space (in which case I'm sure dvd2xbox wouldn't rip it...?), or garbage data. If it's garbage data, then why can't you see it on the original disk and rip it?
My guess is the game would rip to 3.xgb; and you only need the original full raw disk read to mark the TOC at 6.7gb...if you knew exactly where the data ended you could probably remove the extra padding from the ISO and trim it to 3.xgb (although you still couldn't make a multi-game disc so there really isn't any point)....Interesting stuff.
Post by: XSOLJA on March 02, 2006, 03:12:00 PM
Post by: revello on March 02, 2006, 03:39:00 PM
Post by: surtees on March 02, 2006, 04:25:00 PM
QUOTE(cornatbeat @ Mar 2 2006, 11:40 PM)
@joshua
i can create savegames with the ISOBACKUP without crashing and start the world-tour mode without crashing. i've renamed the E:\UDATA\"toca3save" folder in order to have NO savegame at all and the isobackup worked fine creating a new savegame. it behaves just like the original disc. i'm using my old savegame which has been created with the original disc. i dont know, if a savegame which has been created with a badcopy(dvd2xbox e.g.) can be used with the original or the isobackup.
dvd2xbox will ONLY rip the FILES and FOLDERS which are listed in the "FILE ALLOCATION TABLE" and no "spare/garbage" space. the backup with dvd2xbox is about 3,3gb.
data can be very easy "injected" into a filesystem without changing the "FAT". it's simply a RAW-WRITE into sectors. so the data/files won't show up in a directory listing but are still there (on the original disc). but as i mentioned, dvd2xbox as well as all other filemanagers can only copy files and folders and no raw data.
so for a nice copyprotection you only read sector XYZ on the disc and compare it. the backup won't contain your "injected" data, so you can tell the copy from the original
@XSOLJA
hehe the corruption comes very FAST
. do me a favor and complete the OVAL series in the PRO-MODE.if you get past the indy-racing-cars your backup should be ok - i think
. the oval series is very easy; takes about 30minutes. 5 - 6 tracks with 3 rounds each.thanks!
cya&hf
cornatbeat
using the method that is similar to yours,but no renaming of any folders or gamesaves,was just asked to overwrite,i'm using a very old chip,be about 3-4 years old...almost finished the game in all modes..*touch wood* no crashes in any of them.also using it on xecuter2 and no crashes thus far,not as advanced on the tiers with this box
Post by: madcowie on March 02, 2006, 07:58:00 PM
Thanks in advance!!
Stuart
Post by: shadow23 on March 02, 2006, 08:47:00 PM
QUOTE
---- Xbox ISO Ripper v1.0 ----
Title ID: 434d0050
Title directory: Race_Driver_3-434d0050
Total size: 0x00000001a2db0000 bytes
Backup directory: \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games
Ripping time: 32 minutes 36 seconds
Now it's time to take for a test drive.
Post by: DevoDave on March 02, 2006, 09:15:00 PM
Pretty please???? Got to have a go at Bathurst!
Post by: shadow23 on March 03, 2006, 01:28:00 AM
QUOTE(schmiew1 @ Mar 3 2006, 07:25 PM)
Hi everyone.
I believe it is the drive at fault. I have the old sammy drive. Tried in a friends xbox X2 bios 5035 but with a thompson drive and this worked fine without issues. Both of us runnig isoripper from the Avalaunch menu.
Sammy drive - failed and only written 192MB - 209MB
Thompson drive - Success within 45mins
Yeah I couldn't believe it either that the good old sammy couldn't rip the game. But it's all good for me now. The game plays perfectly of the hdd.
Post by: jonels on March 03, 2006, 02:30:00 AM
And LOL I see a major release group has manged to crack this protection too and released it today, I didn't notice any credit given to Rocky5 but I bet his method was used.
Post by: rocky5 on March 03, 2006, 03:01:00 AM
Post by: rocky5 on March 03, 2006, 03:38:00 AM
they did i read the nfo. (only works of DVD)
Post by: markie32 on March 03, 2006, 03:51:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Mar 3 2006, 09:37 AM)
With regards to the old sammy not working...hmmm interesting, I wonder if the new sammy 605f has the same problem.
And LOL I see a major release group has manged to crack this protection too and released it today, I didn't notice any credit given to Rocky5 but I bet his method was used.
Which group???
Post by: WaynO FX on March 03, 2006, 06:56:00 AM
If you have the Aussie version like me V8 Supercars 3 then there is a option to the left of World Tour that allows you to play the V8s straight up without having to play through the rest of the game... Bathurst is awesome!!!
Post by: jonels on March 03, 2006, 09:50:00 AM
Post by: madcowie on March 03, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
Madcowie
Post by: manu_xl on March 03, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
</end of dummy tutorial>
QUOTE(madcowie @ Mar 3 2006, 07:40 PM)
Really sorry again for asking but could someone right me a dummies guide on getting this game on my HD please.
Post by: shadow23 on March 03, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
Post by: surtees on March 03, 2006, 12:53:00 PM
QUOTE(DevoDave @ Mar 3 2006, 05:22 AM)
Please, anyone who has got the V8 Supercars unlocked, can you upload your savegame to Xbox-saves, or else PM it straight to me?
Pretty please???? Got to have a go at Bathurst!
if you did a 1:1 backup V8 supercars should be there, it's in the main menu,the only thing that doesn't work with out the game fix and gamesave fix is world tour......
V8 supercars is just a tad different to toca race driver 3,they have to unlock V8 supercars,where as in the australian version you can jump straight into the action by selecting V8 super cars( i suppose it's a quick mode..don't know,but the season is long enough
)
Post by: Joshua Wood on March 03, 2006, 02:41:00 PM
Post by: rocky5 on March 03, 2006, 03:03:00 PM
Post by: surtees on March 03, 2006, 04:10:00 PM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 3 2006, 09:00 PM)
if you did a 1:1 backup V8 supercars should be there, it's in the main menu,the only thing that doesn't work with out the game fix and gamesave fix is world tour......
V8 supercars is just a tad different to toca race driver 3,they have to unlock V8 supercars,where as in the australian version you can jump straight into the action by selecting V8 super cars( i suppose it's a quick mode..don't know,but the season is long enough
)actually from memory....evertyhing worked on V8 super cars 3....just had the profolie issue,i can't remember
. i do remember fixing the profile issue though so that you didn't have to reboot after making a profile
Post by: maxpaynemafia on March 03, 2006, 05:37:00 PM
Ndure To install v2.0 (Splinter Cell STAKE) in the section exploits on gueux
http://gx-mod.com/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=56
Nkpatcher 8.1 (Drive Image Utilities v1.0.1) in the same section, which will interest us in this file, is in
driveimageutils-v1.0.1/apps/there are 3 repertories,il will be necessary to take ISO RIPPER that you will copy in the repertory of your applications
veiled then I think that one can start, it is enough for you thus to start the console, booter on your dash, to insert the dvd toca, to launch Iso ripper, who will put oneself or on black screen or will block on the image of loading, that wants to say that the play rippe in the hdd in your repertory games, once that it is done for those which know the exploit ndure, to start above by decontaminating the modchip, it is necessary to activate a virtual drive, do not require too many explanations of me I has just installed ndure and do not know too much, all that I know it is that
sorry for my bad english please hehe
Post by: madcowie on March 03, 2006, 06:56:00 PM
QUOTE(maxpaynemafia @ Mar 4 2006, 02:08 AM)
first of all to facilitate your task, you must have some files, that will function on a xbox softmoddée with an exploit ndure, or modchip with a switch having also the exploit ndure installed, me perso used
Ndure To install v2.0 (Splinter Cell STAKE) in the section exploits on gueux
http://gx-mod.com/mo...wcat.php?cid=56
Nkpatcher 8.1 (Drive Image Utilities v1.0.1) in the same section, which will interest us in this file, is in
driveimageutils-v1.0.1/apps/there are 3 repertories,il will be necessary to take ISO RIPPER that you will copy in the repertory of your applications
veiled then I think that one can start, it is enough for you thus to start the console, booter on your dash, to insert the dvd toca, to launch Iso ripper, who will put oneself or on black screen or will block on the image of loading, that wants to say that the play rippe in the hdd in your repertory games, once that it is done for those which know the exploit ndure, to start above by decontaminating the modchip, it is necessary to activate a virtual drive, do not require too many explanations of me I has just installed ndure and do not know too much, all that I know it is that
sorry for my bad english please hehe
Thank you, yet to try it but thank you anyway. Shame somebody else had to be rude and wrong!!! Could you confirm if the game copies like normal to the harddrive? In toca 2 I edited the files so I could play all cars with nearly every track. Therefore I need to able to access certain files. Or does it create some other weird type of file?
Stuart
Post by: ItchyB on March 03, 2006, 07:07:00 PM
QUOTE(madcowie @ Mar 4 2006, 12:33 PM)
Thank you, yet to try it but thank you anyway. Shame somebody else had to be rude and wrong!!! Could you confirm if the game copies like normal to the harddrive? In toca 2 I edited the files so I could play all cars with nearly every track. Therefore I need to able to access certain files. Or does it create some other weird type of file?
Stuart
These are the facts, you can rip an ISO from the original disk with ISO ripper, no other app seems to work, If you have a softmod you can mount the ISO from the hdd, If you use a Chip or TSOP you cant play the game from the HDD but you can burn the ISO to a disk and it will load and play.
If you are asking about editing files to unlock all tracks cars etc then as yet this cant be done, opening the ISO and editing files creates a dirty disk error. (as tested by Rocky5).
You will need to play through or be patient until someone finds a fix for the long file names issue.
Post by: maxpaynemafia on March 03, 2006, 07:45:00 PM
Post by: ItchyB on March 03, 2006, 07:17:00 PM
QUOTE(maxpaynemafia @ Mar 4 2006, 12:46 PM)
helo now with this method i play the game in my hdd ,i have play multiplayer and the play game is exellent
You are using a softmod so you can load the iso direct from the hdd, and to all reports this works well. A softmod can be loaded with a chip if you want but the bottom line is you need a softmod running to load the iso from the hdd and files can not be edited.
Post by: maxpaynemafia on March 03, 2006, 08:29:00 PM
Post by: ItchyB on March 03, 2006, 08:02:00 PM
QUOTE(maxpaynemafia @ Mar 4 2006, 01:30 PM)
yes I understands well what you want to say by, that one does not know modded the play which is in the hdd, but then you modify the game on your computer, you recreate an Iso and the game modified in your hdd xbox gives
I am just going by Rock5's test as he found this work around. Are you saying that you have opened the ISO modified the files then recreated the ISO and it plays ok?
Post by: maxpaynemafia on March 03, 2006, 09:09:00 PM
Post by: rocky5 on March 03, 2006, 08:35:00 PM
QUOTE(maxpaynemafia @ Mar 4 2006, 04:00 AM)
yes I understands well what you want to say by, that one does not know modded the play which is in the hdd, but then you modify the game on your computer, you recreate an Iso and the game modified in your hdd xbox gives
mate i havent a clue what you just typed there but you cannot edit the iso not once and you cant rebuild it if you do then the world tour and the profile crash will return free run and multiplayer and pro tour work fine but the game will corrupt your save not today but someday its like a timebomb you can only run the game from disc or hdd by my way only there is no other way that it can be played unless you have the original then you just use the disc so if you imply that you have edited the iso and recompiled it then sent it to your hdd or burnt it to disc and it works 100% now you have to make a new profile not just use your old one to see if it has worked then i think your talking dribble.
I have tryed all methods of getting the game to work and iam 100% you cant do it the normal way and 100% that it works my way.
sorry if that sound harsh but thats the way it is there is no other way just now sorry.
Post by: DevoDave on March 04, 2006, 03:31:00 AM
QUOTE(DevoDave @ Mar 3 2006, 03:22 PM)
Please, anyone who has got the V8 Supercars unlocked, can you upload your savegame to Xbox-saves, or else PM it straight to me?
Pretty please???? Got to have a go at Bathurst!
Still waiting.... C'mon guys. Someone must be past the V8's by now????
Post by: ItchyB on March 04, 2006, 04:13:00 AM
Post by: hurders on March 04, 2006, 06:47:00 AM
Post by: catweazel on March 04, 2006, 06:54:00 AM
Post by: jonels on March 04, 2006, 07:11:00 AM
Post by: Diatribal on March 04, 2006, 08:42:00 AM
Just a quick question if I may, I know this may sound a bit n๏๏bian but... once I've transferred the isoripped ISO to my computer, should I use Qwix to optimise the ISO or should I just burn it as it is?
Massive-Worldwide-Big-Up's to rocky5 without who's discovery I don't think any of us would be enjoyin' a decent backup of this game! We all know he discovered this, not those m'fcker's releasing the new update ISO with giving him the proper credit! Take a bow rocky5! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Just a small suggestion... I know you can't play a backup off of a chipped HD (yet!)! However, would there be a way of opening the contents of both ISO's (the game one annd the 'empty' space filler) and sending them back to the HD?! I would have thought that as long as the version that you would have on your HD is exactly the same size as the original disc (including it's bullshit-space filling-protection) then it should (in theory) work fine?! Just a thought.
This post has been edited by Diatribal: Mar 4 2006, 04:44 PM
Post by: rocky5 on March 04, 2006, 10:00:00 AM
and it wouldnt work that way because the extra 2.5gb's is just phantom space like there to take up the rest of the disc.
Post by: ItchyB on March 04, 2006, 03:28:00 PM
Post by: DevoDave on March 04, 2006, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE(ItchyB @ Mar 4 2006, 09:44 PM)
Dont you have the Aussie version???? It lets you go straight into the V8 Supercars.............
No I don't unfortunately. I tried editing SKU.INI to set it to AUS but as many have found out, that'll generate Dirty Disk error.
Someone named Kero has uploaded a savegame onto Xbox-saves, but it's only after one race.
There must be hundreds of players who have passed the V8's by now.. just a matter of time until some kind soul uploads one. (They are all probably waiting until 100% complete....)
Post by: DevoDave on March 05, 2006, 01:07:00 AM
QUOTE(kero @ Mar 5 2006, 06:00 PM)
Yeah there are actually about 10 files (including some videos) that are different (some extra files) in the v8 supercars compared to ToCA Race Driver, so its not that easy to convert the versions.
However the game save is the same.
The game save i put on xbox-saves was more for the people who tried to back up their games (not using rock5's method). However it has all the 'bonus' unlocked - which unlocks most things and might unlock v8's in ToCA(??)
Nah... it doesn't unlock the V8's. When you whip through the Pro mode (I skip practice, set the race length to 1 lap, and fly through) upload another one and I'll be a happier man. TIA!
Post by: glied on March 06, 2006, 06:38:00 AM
I made a backup of my original . I found a patch , and patch it . Now i can´t play world tour . All other game modes are working fine . Could someone tell me . What is the problem .
Post by: joeish83 on March 06, 2006, 08:07:00 AM
pay special attention to the things that rocky5 says
Post by: akeduk666 on March 06, 2006, 12:38:00 PM
i got my xbox since 3 years and the f*****g dvd-drive don't read anymore
Post by: jonels on March 06, 2006, 01:33:00 PM
QUOTE(akeduk666 @ Mar 6 2006, 09:45 PM)
Is There any hope about seeing a fix for the NTSC to run off the hdd????
i got my xbox since 3 years and the f*****g dvd-drive don't read anymore
Yes it's already done, in fact it was the route to beating the protection on this game, read the thread, it has been answered many times now.
Post by: DevoDave on March 06, 2006, 02:34:00 PM
QUOTE(comfort @ Mar 6 2006, 09:00 PM)
If you create a profile using an original V8 disc you can then use the backup of DTM and get full access to teh V8's.
Great. Who can create a profile from the V8's so I can giuve this a go?
Post by: Q3A-TaNK on March 06, 2006, 10:03:00 PM
My specs
Xbox v1.1.
Xecuter 2.2 Lite
EvoX M8 Plus
120gb HDD
Sammy Drive (1st gen)
Post by: shadow23 on March 06, 2006, 11:22:00 PM
QUOTE(Q3A-TaNK @ Mar 7 2006, 04:10 PM)
I have tried to do Rocky5s solution with my copy of the game and when i start the iso ripper and then after the first 5-7 mins have passed the game wont copy. I check my folder and theres one iso with about 185mb copied and a error log. What can i do the solve this problem?
My specs
Xbox v1.1.
Xecuter 2.2 Lite
EvoX M8 Plus
120gb HDD
Sammy Drive (1st gen)
Well there is your problem!!! Sammy's are not good at ripping games. I KNOW because I have 2 of them, but the philips drive worked me. dontasciime had similar problem too. He ended up using a thompson drive. Just a reminder "samsung dvd drives suck at ripping games!!!!!".
Post by: ItchyB on March 07, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
At this stage there is no other fix.
Post by: XSOLJA on March 07, 2006, 04:44:00 PM
QUOTE
it seems as though toca 3 is the only one affected (DVD backup-gamesave corruption)the australian V8 supercars doesn't appear to have this problem,
yeah aussie version does it as well
Post by: shadow23 on March 07, 2006, 11:30:00 PM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 8 2006, 11:11 AM)
not mine ,(DVD back up),not HDD back up,i'm using a "mod chip" not a "soft mod"
mine has played flawlessly.i have the 3 b/ups and the only one that plays up is toca 3 the UK version.
Yeah but what backup is it? I mean what is the size of your backup copy? I did rocky5's way and my backups work both the DVD and hdd (V8 Supercars).
Post by: u235 on March 08, 2006, 12:52:00 PM
CODE
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX -2097152 mar 08 10:20 Race_Driver_3-434d0050.part1.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 520672 mar 08 10:21 errorsectors.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX -1560608768 mar 08 10:39 Race_Driver_3-434d0050.part2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 6924 mar 08 10:53 default.xbe
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 520672 mar 08 10:21 errorsectors.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX -1560608768 mar 08 10:39 Race_Driver_3-434d0050.part2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 6924 mar 08 10:53 default.xbe
Is this normal? I've never seen a negative return for a filesize before :/ In fact, smartftp gets confused and doesn't even list the files. Any help here would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Post by: LEI179 on March 08, 2006, 02:00:00 PM
all i get is a black screen or a splash screen saying xbox stealth mode......or something
any ideas
ps i have the Driver_3_XBOX-SPARE .......
Post by: surtees on March 08, 2006, 02:39:00 PM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 8 2006, 07:37 AM)
Yeah but what backup is it? I mean what is the size of your backup copy? I did rocky5's way and my backups work both the DVD and hdd (V8 Supercars).
they all are different sizes..the smallest one is the V8 supercars 3...somewhere around the 2.85 G's,toca 3 race driver takes up just under half a disc and DTM race driver 3 takes up most of the disc,sorry thats about all i can tell you as i have deleted the files,as i didn't need them,as all but 1 one work flawlessly.
i have all 3 b/ups..the UK...toca 3,dutch/german...DTM race driver 3 and the australian V8 supercars
QUOTE(LEI179 @ Mar 8 2006, 10:07 PM)
I cannot even get this to run from dvd.ive tried nero and disc juggler 4 different speeds 2 different xboxs
all i get is a black screen or a splash screen saying xbox stealth mode......or something
any ideas
ps i have the Driver_3_XBOX-SPARE .......
thats the dutch/ german DTM race 3,that one works flawlessly,you have done something wrong some where.i burn with decryptor
Post by: Joshua Wood on March 08, 2006, 07:46:00 PM
Post by: Dreamcazman on March 09, 2006, 12:48:00 AM
QUOTE(u235 @ Mar 9 2006, 05:59 AM)
Has anyone seen negative file sizes for the iso's after using iso ripper? I'm seeing the following after iso ripper completes (about 45 minutes):
CODE
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX -2097152 mar 08 10:20 Race_Driver_3-434d0050.part1.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 520672 mar 08 10:21 errorsectors.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX -1560608768 mar 08 10:39 Race_Driver_3-434d0050.part2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 6924 mar 08 10:53 default.xbe
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 520672 mar 08 10:21 errorsectors.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX -1560608768 mar 08 10:39 Race_Driver_3-434d0050.part2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 XBOX XBOX 6924 mar 08 10:53 default.xbe
Is this normal? I've never seen a negative return for a filesize before :/ In fact, smartftp gets confused and doesn't even list the files. Any help here would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Yeah, I noticed the same thing when FTPing in using Evox, try another FTP application (XBMC, DVD2Xbox, etc) and it should show the 4.00Gb iso file you need.
Post by: cornatbeat on March 10, 2006, 02:23:00 AM
your "backup" will corrupt your savegame, trust me!
try this :
- backup and delete all toca3 savegames from your xbox hdd
- put in your backup and create a profile ( your box will most likely crash here )
- reboot your xbox and try to start the "WORLD TOUR" ( your box will crash again )
- do step 3 again ( even more crashes / black screens with your xbox)
if you cannot start the worldtour with your backup, its not a working backup.
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: shadow23 on March 10, 2006, 02:24:00 AM
QUOTE(billybanana @ Mar 10 2006, 08:21 PM)
I tried something so simple I was sure it wouldn't work but it surely has.....
If DVD2Xbox can't copy the long file names to the HDD then the DVD drive can actually read the long file names - if it couldn't it wouldn't know not to copy them.
So I ftp'd into the box and copied the entire contents of the DVD drive into a folder on my pc and then used Qwix to burn an ISO from that folder.
Now I have one backup copy of V8 Supercars 3 which works beautifully.
QUOTE(cornatbeat @ Mar 10 2006, 08:30 PM)
@billybanana
your "backup" will corrupt your savegame, trust me!
try this :
- backup and delete all toca3 savegames from your xbox hdd
- put in your backup and create a profile ( your box will most likely crash here )
- reboot your xbox and try to start the "WORLD TOUR" ( your box will crash again )
- do step 3 again ( even more crashes / black screens with your xbox)
if you cannot start the worldtour with your backup, its not a working backup.
cya&hf
cornatbeat
I even tried with a modchip and that hangs as well. Truly the only way that works is how rocky5 made his backup with isoripper.
Post by: surtees on March 10, 2006, 03:03:00 AM
QUOTE(cornatbeat @ Mar 10 2006, 10:30 AM)
@billybanana
your "backup" will corrupt your savegame, trust me!
try this :
- backup and delete all toca3 savegames from your xbox hdd
- put in your backup and create a profile ( your box will most likely crash here )
- reboot your xbox and try to start the "WORLD TOUR" ( your box will crash again )
- do step 3 again ( even more crashes / black screens with your xbox)
if you cannot start the worldtour with your backup, its not a working backup.
cya&hf
cornatbeat
as i have stated before,V8 supercars backsup nicely,it has no nasties like the UK toca 3 version,why i don't know,iv'e nearly finished the australian version V8 supercars,not one inkling of corruption....it's also smaller in size than toca 3 and DTM race driver 3,DTM race driver 3 is the biggest of them all and also works flawlessly
Post by: shadow23 on March 10, 2006, 03:27:00 AM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 10 2006, 09:10 PM)
as i have stated before,V8 supercars backsup nicely,it has no nasties like the UK toca 3 version,why i don't know,iv'e nearly finished the australian version V8 supercars,not one inkling of corruption....it's also smaller in size than toca 3 and DTM race driver 3,DTM race driver 3 is the biggest of them all and also works flawlessly
Well you have to give us more info...
Like what dash you are using?
How did you backup your game V8 supercars?
Did you use Craxtion, Qwix or MooGUI or something else.
Because honestly you're the only one in here that can play a backup of V8 Supercars with a modchip, so I find that a bit odd. I've tried in different ways. And only rocky5's way made proper backups.
QUOTE(billybanana @ Mar 10 2006, 09:18 PM)
It's only the V8's that I'm really interested in......so I guess if I want to do the World Tour thing I'll use the original disc.
So for my purposes it "works" and I'm sure for alot of other Aussie owners it will work aswell.
Still it'd be nice to run the thing off the HDD. Will wait for some bright spark to figure that one out.
Mate why don't try softmodding your xbox (with krayzie's NDure installer) and then get isoripper to rip the game to your hdd. I've done it and it really works.
Post by: surtees on March 10, 2006, 04:21:00 AM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 10 2006, 11:34 AM)
Well you have to give us more info...
Like what dash you are using?
How did you backup your game V8 supercars?
Did you use Craxtion, Qwix or MooGUI or something else.
Because honestly you're the only one in here that can play a backup of V8 Supercars with a modchip, so I find that a bit odd. I've tried in different ways. And only rocky5's way made proper backups.
Mate why don't try softmodding your xbox (with krayzie's NDure installer) and then get isoripper to rip the game to your hdd. I've done it and it really works.
i backed up V8 supercars via flashfxp,xbox is running an early version of evox,transferred all the files over via flashfxp,used craxtion to create the ISO ,burnt with decryptor.
but i'm playing the game on another xbox that has avalaunch,as i didn't want to interfere with the back up of DTM 3 that i'm playing on the other xbox...thats all i did
Post by: flashfreak on March 10, 2006, 04:36:00 AM
I'm have a chip, 200gig hard drive, sammy and unleashx. I can use a thomson if necessary.
Thanks
Post by: fastbuickgn on March 10, 2006, 04:56:00 AM
Post by: .:Dino:. on March 10, 2006, 05:43:00 PM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 7 2006, 06:29 AM)
Well there is your problem!!! Sammy's are not good at ripping games. I KNOW because I have 2 of them, but the philips drive worked me. dontasciime had similar problem too. He ended up using a thompson drive. Just a reminder "samsung dvd drives suck at ripping games!!!!!".
The 1st gen sammy's are the best drive at ripping games
Post by: shadow23 on March 10, 2006, 10:31:00 PM
QUOTE(.:Dino:. @ Mar 11 2006, 11:50 AM)
The 1st gen sammy's are the best drive at ripping games
You have to be kidding right??? I have two of them and they couldn't rip the V8 Supercars. I wish I had a video to show I'm not pulling your leg. Like I said the sammy's are not good at ripping games!!
I also tried other games Splintercell 2 and James Bond and everythime I rip it with my samsung it always hangs when it reaches 200MB.
Read the earlier post about sammy's in this topic before you post anything.
READ THIS:
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 3 2006, 02:54 PM)
This is just an update on my situation....
Last night I tried to rip my TOCA 3 for the 3rd time and I'm convinced that my xbox dvd drive was the problem (old samsung). Even though my xbox reads any media I put in it, for some unknown reason the sammy is not good at ripping. dontasciime mentioned in his post that he had same issues like me but when he changed xbox dvd drive and used a thompson it worked for him.
So lucky for me I have a spare philips drive. I tried it this morning but ran out of time and had to go to work. But I had a quick look at what isoripper created and it nearly ripped the 1st part of the game which I recall to be 4GB from what rocky5 said. And now I'm ripping TOCA 3 as I'm typing this post and and it seems to be reading the game well. I'll post my update after this sucker has finished ripping.
Thanks again to everyone here!
Update....
I just finished ripping the game and all the files are there.
Now it's time to take for a test drive.
And also this post:
QUOTE(dontasciime @ Mar 3 2006, 06:09 AM)
Just a note to say, that i could not get it rip using drive image tools on my samsung dvd rom xboxes, tried forever, it locks up after 208meg, the ring light on xbox goes out and you can hear the drive struggling to read. However if you open drive then close it quickly after it stops flashing ring light, it will copy the files and convert them iso on the fly, But when i then txed em to pc, and burnt using decypter, showed up as unknown in evox, so extracted iso, it was faulty, tried again on samsung xbox with x2 bios 4977 i think, yeah i know its old but why fix it if it ain't broke, have never had a game not load because of bios. It still has not stopped me now from running the game. I think its aladdin pro chip as well.
Anyways, i then gave up on my samsung with aladdin pro32or 64 and decided to use one of my other xboxes that has aladdin 32 non pro (basic chip i think thats what i used to chip it), using m7ej fix bios and thomson rom drive and it ripped to hard drive in 44 minutes, txed part 1 to pc then extracted it to make sure it had files, it did, then burnt using decrypter. It plays fine, so will test with my other xbox that also has a samsung drive in it and is using an x2 with m7ej fix bios in it, to see if its samsung drive itts struggling with or chip or bios, as a few people are saying leaving iso ripper going for more than an hour is not doing anything, though anyone in that postions should ftp into xbox, after it failing and tx log file in iso ripper folder to desktop and open it with word and have a look at what it's saying i was getting this on samsung with 4977 and alad chip.
---- Xbox ISO Ripper v1.0 ----
Title ID: 434d0050
Title directory: Race_Driver_3-434d0050
Total size: 0x00000001a2db0000 bytes
Backup directory: \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games
---- Xbox ISO Ripper v1.0 ----
Volume query failed in open_dvd_query, status: c0000010
Can't get title information, aborting, status: c0000013
---- Xbox ISO Ripper v1.0 ----
Title ID: 434d0050
Title directory: Race_Driver_3-434d0050
Total size: 0x00000001a2db0000 bytes
Backup directory: \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games
Ripping time: 62 minutes 57 seconds
note the ripping time was from the unsucessful iso that had no files in it that i mentioned above....
And the error.bin file is normal to have listed in directory for the person that was asking i think the readme says something about worry if its 5 meg or above but not to worry below that, i may be wrong on the numbers though, i did have one that was 26 meg or above and that was not a good outcome.
Will post later if i cannot use my other samsung to rip...
Here's the topic
Samsung (1st gen) are probably the best in reading most types of media but not at ripping xbox games.
Post by: surtees on March 10, 2006, 11:42:00 PM
QUOTE(flashfreak @ Mar 11 2006, 05:49 AM)
I just made a successful backup. Copied it straight from my sammy to my comp, then used c-xbox tool to make the iso, then burnt it.
Disc works fine, but wouldn't play in my sammy as my dvd burner is being incompatible with the xbox lately. Works fine in a thomson, but the game works fine too.
Didn't test world tour, but the disc works, played a v8 round to test it. Just a note, im running the aussie version, 'v8 supercars 3', maybe if ppl are having trouble getting it working, change the sku file to aus
We seem to be able to back it up
told you it works...i think it's only the UK version that is playing up.i have all 3 versions,and the only one that plays up is the UK version...toca race driver 3.
the other 2....V8 supercars 3 and the dutch/ german DTM race driver 3 work flawelessly,and all 3 are different in ISO size too.
i'm in australia too,and believe there have been no issues with any corruption in our version..
Post by: shadow23 on March 10, 2006, 11:56:00 PM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 11 2006, 05:49 PM)
told you it works...i think it's only the UK version that is playing up.i have all 3 versions,and the only one that plays up is the UK version...toca race driver 3.
the other 2....V8 supercars 3 and the dutch/ german DTM race driver 3 work flawelessly,and all 3 are different in ISO size too.
i'm in australia too,and believe there have been no issues with any corruption in our version..
WellI tried it your way surtees but no go. It works with the V8 but World Tour won't load.
Are you guys sure you are playing the WT?
Post by: surtees on March 11, 2006, 01:07:00 AM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 11 2006, 08:03 AM)
WellI tried it your way surtees but no go. It works with the V8 but World Tour won't load.
Are you guys sure you are playing the WT?
yes most definately.....iv'e tried all ,V8 supercars quick start...world tour....pro mode....simulation...all work fine.
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 11 2006, 08:03 AM)
WellI tried it your way surtees but no go. It works with the V8 but World Tour won't load.
Are you guys sure you are playing the WT?
did you get my PM?
Post by: flashfreak on March 11, 2006, 02:30:00 AM
Anyone trying to figure something out, it will NOT play off the hard drive AT ALL without using this virtual drive thing. Those long filenames are necessary, and the FatX file system can't handle em. Unless a patch is released, then don't bother trying, u'll just have to use a disc, if u can even get that far
Post by: shadow23 on March 11, 2006, 02:58:00 AM
Because surtees claims that he has a backup made the old way and it works on WT. But I'm just curious to see if it does work but so far all have failed.
Used Craxtion and Decrypter
Used Qwix and Nero7
Used MooGUI and Nero7
And none of them made a fully working backup. World Tour still won't load.
I even tried different xbox dvd drives (Samsung & Philips) and it still won't load.
Post by: surtees on March 11, 2006, 03:39:00 AM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 11 2006, 11:05 AM)
Well I'm not trying to work it out. rocky5 found a way around it anyway. But what I'm trying though is to play WT with a backup copy made the old fashioned way which is DVD game>Xbox>(ftp to) PC>convert to xISO>burn to media(DVD+/-R.
Because surtees claims that he has a backup made the old way and it works on WT. But I'm just curious to see if it does work but so far all have failed.
Used Craxtion and Decrypter
Used Qwix and Nero7
Used MooGUI and Nero7
And none of them made a fully working backup. World Tour still won't load.
I even tried different xbox dvd drives (Samsung & Philips) and it still won't load.
i don't know what to say or suggest.....to date i haven't had the back up crash on me,and thats truthfully,if it was going to crash would it of done it by now? i'm between tier 9 or 10 from memory on V8 supercars in world tour mode,and in DTM i'm on tier 6....if it was going to crash,surely it would of done it by now wouldn't of it?
Post by: surtees on March 11, 2006, 01:26:00 PM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Mar 11 2006, 12:16 PM)
I'm not worried about it that much. I was just curious and nothing else. I hope I didn't offend you? If it works for you, that's good to hear.
no not offended, or any taken
although i'm interested now
....surely it would of crashed on me by now wouldn't of it,if there was corruption in the game (back-up)?i know toca race driver 3(UK Version) crashed on me,at about 8%,and i'm way past that on V8 supercars.the game save data as everyone has said got corrupted and i lost it.(toca 3 race driver UK only)
Post by: shadow23 on March 11, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 12 2006, 07:33 AM)
no not offended, or any taken
although i'm interested now
....surely it would of crashed on me by now wouldn't of it,if there was corruption in the game (back-up)?i know toca race driver 3(UK Version) crashed on me,at about 8%,and i'm way past that on V8 supercars.the game save data as everyone has said got corrupted and i lost it.(toca 3 race driver UK only)
Yeah it is interesting. Well that's good it didn't crash on you. I still have to catch up on the V8's. All this testing and I never sat down and continued my game progress. LOL!
Thanks surtees for being patient with me.
Post by: sparker on March 11, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
Post by: ianlau on March 12, 2006, 02:53:00 PM
Post by: ItchyB on March 12, 2006, 09:43:00 PM
Post by: stacker69 on March 13, 2006, 12:25:00 AM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 13 2006, 06:03 PM)
didn't you say you had a fully working backup?...for a mod-chip,backing up V8 supercars 3 there is nothing to be done,thats why theres no fix
....it works perfectly...(1:1 backup) same goes for the dutch/german version DTM race driver 3,to my knowledge that is a simple 1:1 backup as well,no fixes needed.but as for the UK version,toca race driver 3,this is where people seem to be saying theres a problem,i have this version as well and it's the only one that plays up,it loses gamesave at around the 8% mark,thats where theres a fix,and even that doesn't work all the time...anyhows it's got me beat as to why it's a problem,but i'm happy my b/up of V8 supercars is working perfectly,i'm some where up to 25% mark...tier 13-14,somewheres around thereFirst of all I'm not here to argue with you, so stay cool. Well you might have a backup copy working doing it the old fashioned way when you have to ftp to your xbox and transfer files over, convert to xISO and burn. But I have been backing up games for quite a while now.
I'm from Australia and I just bought the V8 Supercars 3. I made the a backup the same way (xbox>flash fxp>Craxtion>Nero) I've been doing it. And I can't go to world tour! I'll create a profile and if I go to world tour, the screen will go black (no xbox "Loading" screen). I can go and play any mode apart from world tour. I yet to try rocky5's way. I'll let you know how I go.
Post by: ItchyB on March 13, 2006, 01:04:00 AM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 13 2006, 05:33 PM)
didn't you say you had a fully working backup?...for a mod-chip,backing up V8 supercars 3 there is nothing to be done,thats why theres no fix
....it works perfectly...(1:1 backup) same goes for the dutch/german version DTM race driver 3,to my knowledge that is a simple 1:1 backup as well,no fixes needed.but as for the UK version,toca race driver 3,this is where people seem to be saying theres a problem,i have this version as well and it's the only one that plays up,it loses gamesave at around the 8% mark,thats where theres a fix,and even that doesn't work all the time...anyhows it's got me beat as to why it's a problem,but i'm happy my b/up of V8 supercars is working perfectly,i'm some where up to 25% mark...tier 13-14,somewheres around thereI have a fully working backup using Rocky5's method, But I am a lazy bastard and would prefer to have my backup running off the HDD with out having to softmod. The fix I am after is so i can rip the disk to my hdd and run from there.
Post by: Dreamcazman on March 13, 2006, 01:34:00 AM
Anyways I ripped it again using my eons old Thomson drive and it worked like a charm.
Post by: surtees on March 13, 2006, 06:41:00 AM
QUOTE(stacker69 @ Mar 13 2006, 08:32 AM)
First of all I'm not here to argue with you, so stay cool. Well you might have a backup copy working doing it the old fashioned way when you have to ftp to your xbox and transfer files over, convert to xISO and burn. But I have been backing up games for quite a while now.
I'm from Australia and I just bought the V8 Supercars 3. I made the a backup the same way (xbox>flash fxp>Craxtion>Nero) I've been doing it. And I can't go to world tour! I'll create a profile and if I go to world tour, the screen will go black (no xbox "Loading" screen). I can go and play any mode apart from world tour. I yet to try rocky5's way. I'll let you know how I go.
WHOAAA there boss
,i'm not here to argue either,i just asked you a simple question that is all,my apoligies if i upset you.
Post by: stacker69 on March 13, 2006, 11:49:00 AM
QUOTE(surtees @ Mar 14 2006, 12:48 AM)
WHOAAA there boss
,i'm not here to argue either,i just asked you a simple question that is all,my apoligies if i upset you.Sorry sorry, I didn't mean to sound like that LOL!I didn't mean to imply that you're uncool. Sorry but sometimes I ask dumb questions or say the wrong things.
Just wanted to say that I tried backing up the game the usual way I've been doing them. And I can't play the world tour. So I ended up using rocky5's way.
surtees no need for apology, I owe you an apology.
Post by: surtees on March 13, 2006, 12:30:00 PM
QUOTE(stacker69 @ Mar 13 2006, 07:56 PM)
Sorry sorry, I didn't mean to sound like that LOL!I didn't mean to imply that you're uncool. Sorry but sometimes I ask dumb questions or say the wrong things.
Just wanted to say that I tried backing up the game the usual way I've been doing them. And I can't play the world tour. So I ended up using rocky5's way.
surtees no need for apology, I owe you an apology.
no problems...lets just say it was both our fault,and just move on eh....
Post by: -Gadget- on March 13, 2006, 03:48:00 PM
found this thread and used rocky5's way ... but had a sammy, so didnt work..
used me mates xbox, with thompson drive, and isoripper then worked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
so, burned part1 to disc... and tried and all is good, but cannot get onto the world tour ?
so thought it maybe a bad burn, so would try the image with the virtuual drive thingy ..
so temp softmodded xbox, and tried the virtual drive thing it runs and works ...
but still dont work in world tour ?? (stops with the disc dirty error thingy)
this is with a fresh game save using just the vitual drive method ??
any ideas ??? as i thought with the virtual drive method is should work !!!
maybe just a bad rip ??
cheers, Mick ....
PS
u can have a xbox chipped, AND soft moded (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) at the same time.. just needs clever renaming etc
(did try it unchipped and softmodded by the way too)
Post by: jonels on March 13, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
QUOTE(-Gadget- @ Mar 14 2006, 12:19 AM)
i had probs with this game too ... The UK version (toca 3 race driver)
found this thread and used rocky5's way ... but had a sammy, so didnt work..
used me mates xbox, with thompson drive, and isoripper then worked
so, burned part1 to disc... and tried and all is good, but cannot get onto the world tour ?
so thought it maybe a bad burn, so would try the image with the virtuual drive thingy ..
so temp softmodded xbox, and tried the virtual drive thing it runs and works ...
but still dont work in world tour ?? (stops with the disc dirty error thingy)
this is with a fresh game save using just the vitual drive method ??
any ideas ??? as i thought with the virtual drive method is should work !!!
maybe just a bad rip ??
cheers, Mick ....
PS
u can have a xbox chipped, AND soft moded
at the same time.. just needs clever renaming etc(did try it unchipped and softmodded by the way too)
Must be a bad rip, unless the ISO has been opened/patched/rebuilt (does qwix autopatch iso's?)
also does it work on your mates box with the thompson ? just using the virtual drive ?
Post by: flashfreak on March 13, 2006, 05:07:00 PM
Post by: -Gadget- on March 13, 2006, 05:09:00 PM
i transfered from the xbox to pc (to burn it) with flashfxp.. (so qwix never touched it) and burned with nero ..
did open it with xISO, but never saved change's or anything only opened to make sure it was a valid xISO before i burned it ! (so it woud'nt be a coaster !)
thats about all the info i can give ! ..
Mick ...
Post by: jonels on March 13, 2006, 04:44:00 PM
Maybe try ripping it again on the thompson xbox, but before ftping it to the PC try it with the virtual drive straight from your friends HD, if he'll let you install a temp softmod and turn his chip off. That would leave the only possibilty being the ripping process failing. Sorry, i know I'm only stating the obvious
Post by: -Gadget- on March 13, 2006, 05:32:00 PM
its odd that its only the world tour that it has affected ! ..
will have to try again, when i next have the chance ...
many thanks for confirming !
Mick ....
Post by: Doerak on March 14, 2006, 10:39:00 AM
QUOTE
Yes you can backup with a chipped xbox. Simply download driveimageutils-v1.0.1.zip and extract to folder on pc. Ftp the folder \isoripper from driveimageutils-v1.0.1\apps to your xbox E:\apps\isoripper. Then use XBMC to run isoripper with the original disk (v8 supercars) in the xbox. The sreen will go blank for about 45min and you will then have a folder E:\games\racedriver3...... with an iso in it .....Part_1.iso and .....Part_2.iso. Ftp the part_1.iso back to your computer and burn to a dvd. Works no problems. Cannot run game from Hdd on xbox though.
I try doing whats written above, but when i get to the point where I have to use isoripper, the screen goes black for 4 seconds and XBMC reboots. In E:\apps\isoripper there now is a file backuplog.txt with the following content
QUOTE
---- Xbox ISO Ripper v1.0 ----
Volume query failed in open_dvd_query, status: c0000010
Can't get title information, aborting, status: c0000014
Volume query failed in open_dvd_query, status: c0000010
Can't get title information, aborting, status: c0000014
Does anyone have any idea what I can do to make isoripper work.
I've read the entire thread, and I don't think I've seen a problem like this.
my specs:
Xbox 1.0
Thompson drive
Xecuter 2 chip
80 GB Maxtor HDD
This post has been edited by Doerak: Mar 14 2006, 06:41 PM
Post by: fastbuickgn on March 14, 2006, 11:27:00 AM
Post by: Joshua Wood on March 14, 2006, 03:37:00 PM
QUOTE(-Gadget- @ Mar 14 2006, 01:03 AM)
its what i had thought, but didnt wanna admit ! lol
its odd that its only the world tour that it has affected ! ..
will have to try again, when i next have the chance ...
many thanks for confirming !
Mick ....
Possibly try deleteing all your save games for TOCA 3 first...(backup to pc if you want). It might be the save locking out World Tour for some reason.
Edit- should read everything first (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) When you say "fresh" save, how do you mean? Try with NO saves, using the image via virtual drive or disc (should be the same) to make the "fresh" save. Sorry if this is what you meant.
This post has been edited by Joshua Wood: Mar 14 2006, 11:39 PM
Post by: spamhoo on March 16, 2006, 05:07:00 AM
My xbox couldn't create the iso using Rocky5's way (isoripper hangs, probably wrong type of drive), but i was able to create an iso using Quix.
If I use Nero to burn the Quix iso to DVD I can play the game on a chipped box, but the profile corrupts after a while and I cannot play World Tour at all.
Just curious, is there a way of creating a backup DVD using the Quix iso that will work? or do i need to create a new iso from the original DVD using isoripper on another box?
Thanks
Post by: fastbuickgn on March 16, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
QUOTE(spamhoo @ Mar 16 2006, 12:38 PM)
Hi all,
My xbox couldn't create the iso using Rocky5's way (isoripper hangs, probably wrong type of drive), but i was able to create an iso using Quix.
If I use Nero to burn the Quix iso to DVD I can play the game on a chipped box, but the profile corrupts after a while and I cannot play World Tour at all.
Just curious, is there a way of creating a backup DVD using the Quix iso that will work? or do i need to create a new iso from the original DVD using isoripper on another box?
Thanks
What type of drive is it?
Post by: roviggelc on March 26, 2006, 08:28:00 AM
QUOTE(Doerak @ Mar 14 2006, 06:10 PM)
I try doing whats written above, but when i get to the point where I have to use isoripper, the screen goes black for 4 seconds and XBMC reboots. In E:\apps\isoripper there now is a file backuplog.txt with the following content
Does anyone have any idea what I can do to make isoripper work.
I've read the entire thread, and I don't think I've seen a problem like this.
Hmmm...
I'm getting something similar, except that my backuplog.txt tells me:
"Race_Driver_3-434d0050
Total size: 0x00000001a2db0000 bytes
Open failed in get_free_space, status: c000003a
Open failed in get_free_space, status: c000003a
No free space on either backup directory, aborting."
My backup.cfg file contains:
"PrimaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games"
and
"SecondaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition7\games"
I've tried editing the Harddisk and Partition numbers, but I keep getting the same result- the screen goes black for a few seconds and I'm booted back to the Dashboard.
Anyone know if I'm on the right track (editing the Harddisk and Partition numbers), and if so, what should I be putting there; or should I be looking at something else?
My specs:
Xbox 1.4
Samsung drive
Xecuter 2 chip
120 GB Maxtor HDD (90GB+ free space)
BIOS Evox M8
EvolutionX V+3935
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Post by: roviggelc on March 26, 2006, 08:17:00 AM
Disregard all that stuff in the above post, I should have read the thread a bit better before posting
Doh!
I'll see if I can find a Thompson/Philips drive.
.
Post by: sortedford on March 26, 2006, 11:13:00 AM
Post by: Rambytes on March 26, 2006, 05:19:00 PM
Sorry for my bad english.
So, The method of Rocky5 working, but I cannot get after the video of the introduction.
What I mean, the backup AND the original is freeze right after the Codemaster video introduction. I've expect a bad original disk, so i've return to get another disk, same thing.
I've read ALL the post, delete the 434xxxx folder to be sure that no Toca 3 savegame are there, get the Rocky5 method and burn the ISO without any modification. Rip (with IsoRipper) and burn the 1st part.
Same thing: the game start but freeze after the introduction (if I press a button or let the intro finish itself, same result).
I have a softmoded Xbox, with a kernel 5838.
Can you explain why this append and what is the solution?
Does can be the softmod method i've use?
Post by: ItchyB on March 26, 2006, 05:33:00 PM
Post by: Rambytes on March 26, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
Buy the way, before deleting everithing, to see if it's the disk himself that have a problem... i've FTP the D:\ drive with the game inside... i've got ZERO (0) error. So the disk is good.
I will go deleting the E:\CACHE, the Savegame in UDATA, and deleting all the data in X Y and Z drive
brb in few second
Post by: Rambytes on March 26, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
But what it's the 2.xGb part2 containt?
Garbage?
Post by: ItchyB on March 26, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
Cheers
Post by: sortedford on March 27, 2006, 07:14:00 AM
im confused with all the posts.
basically now im going to ftp it to pc.
then in nero burn part 1 as a iso, is that it? no other files like the xbe or anything?
and that should work at that?
thanks for the help (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: Rambytes on March 27, 2006, 07:32:00 AM
Only that!
Simple hein!
Post by: sortedford on March 27, 2006, 06:58:00 AM
Ill go do that then, just didnt want to waste dvds
Post by: DiabolikDK on March 28, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
Loading fine, creates profile fine, saving fine = evrything fine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
But it's better with DVD on the other box so I can play online.
This post has been edited by DiabolikDK: Mar 28 2006, 08:04 PM
Post by: ItchyB on March 28, 2006, 01:36:00 PM
Post by: firiebob on March 30, 2006, 02:40:00 AM
Also thanks to surtees for his methord, I just wasn't game to try his, because I didn't want to find out to late it might not work, and lose my game saves. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Cheers,
Bob.
Post by: lenballs on March 30, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
Cheers
Post by: AgentEB on March 31, 2006, 03:51:00 PM
also i've been trying to hex edit the default.xbe to come up with an acl file to patch for the long files names and for hdd play but it seems codemasters have disguised it somewhere as i can't find any reference to these long file names. so your gonna have to play off the dvd backup for now.
Post by: idc on April 01, 2006, 02:15:00 PM
QUOTE(AgentEB @ Apr 1 2006, 12:58 AM)
also i've been trying to hex edit the default.xbe to come up with an acl file to patch for the long files names and for hdd play but it seems codemasters have disguised it somewhere as i can't find any reference to these long file names. so your gonna have to play off the dvd backup for now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
That's only half of the problem though, as it would seem that the game does a TOC check of the DVD media, so even if you still overcome the long filename check, you still have that to contend with.
Post by: Mr Amazing on April 02, 2006, 11:14:00 AM
I wish I could run from HDD, any progress?
Post by: hankscorpio83 on April 03, 2006, 07:28:00 PM
I have 10+GB free on F:, and I've tried it with multiple games. Not once has it even created the directories or log file to tell me if something is wrong.
I haven't had any problems before, version 1.0 box, Thompson drive, game plays fine from the disc, and any other game I have tried plays off the hard drive.
Here is backup.cfg from the isoripper directory on E:\Apps\
CODE
# Xbox ISO Ripper configuration file
# Primary backup directory is the first choice under which to put the backup
PrimaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games
# Secondary backup directory is used if the primary can't (no space left)
SecondaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition7\games
# Slice the ISO into parts this big. Keep it divisible by the sector size 2048.
# Also don't go close to the FATX file size limit.
SliceSize 0xffe00000
# Define to write debug messages to backuplog.txt. May be useful in finding out
# what's wrong, when it doesn't work. Default log file name is backuplog.txt.
Debug true
DebugLog backuplog.txt
# Primary backup directory is the first choice under which to put the backup
PrimaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games
# Secondary backup directory is used if the primary can't (no space left)
SecondaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition7\games
# Slice the ISO into parts this big. Keep it divisible by the sector size 2048.
# Also don't go close to the FATX file size limit.
SliceSize 0xffe00000
# Define to write debug messages to backuplog.txt. May be useful in finding out
# what's wrong, when it doesn't work. Default log file name is backuplog.txt.
Debug true
DebugLog backuplog.txt
EvoxM7137G Bios
I haven't updated Evox for about 10 months, XBMC is from December, Xenium chip.
Any suggestions?
This post has been edited by hankscorpio83: Apr 4 2006, 02:33 AM
Post by: rocky5 on April 03, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
use this now you cant say it dosnt work cos it works for me no probs if it still dosnt work then you should try using unleash-x rather than evox (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleeping.gif)
# Xbox ISO Ripper configuration file
# Primary backup directory is the first choice under which to put the backup
PrimaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games\Virtual drive
# Secondary backup directory is used if the primary can't (no space left)
SecondaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1\games\Virtual drive
# Slice the ISO into parts this big. Keep it divisible by the sector size 2048.
# Also don't go close to the FATX file size limit.
SliceSize 0xffe00000
# Define to write debug messages to backuplog.txt. May be useful in finding out
# what's wrong, when it doesn't work. Default log file name is backuplog.txt.
Debug true
DebugLog backuplog.txt
Partition1= Edrive
Partition6= Fdrive
Partition7= Gdrive
Post by: hankscorpio83 on April 03, 2006, 08:26:00 PM
PrimaryBackupDir \Device\Harddisk0\Partition6\games\ripper
but still nothing. There is no log file to be found.
Getting UnleashX now, hopefully that will help...
I've tried everything I can think of - so it must be something very easy and obvious that I am overlooking. Everyone else is following the instructions you provided and it's working for them, so I'm sure the problem lies with me...
EDIT:
okay, just added unleashx and ran isoripper from there... seems to be not doing anything, but I'm going to let it sit for a little bit before checking for a log file...
This post has been edited by hankscorpio83: Apr 4 2006, 03:34 AM
Post by: firiebob on April 04, 2006, 05:26:00 AM
Cheers,
Bob.
Post by: senator on April 04, 2006, 06:03:00 AM
Post by: senator on April 04, 2006, 07:55:00 AM
Post by: cdev_19 on April 06, 2006, 06:55:00 AM
This is a solution to create a DVD-R BACKUP OF THE GAME, it is NOT a means to run the game off the HDD.
You will need these programs:
- FlashFXP
- Craxion
- Nero
1) Run the original game disc once on your Xbox and save a profile, then turn off Xbox and remove game.
2) Go to xbox-saves.com, download the save game of Race Driver 3 that has 1% complete (or something like that, maybe 4% I can't remember).
3) FTP that save game to the Race Driver 3 UDATA directory on your E:\ drive (effectively replacing your old save for the game).
4) Now that is done, put the game back in and use FlashFXP to FTP the contents of game disc (D:\ drive) to your PC.
5) Use Craxion to create an ISO of the files you FTPed across. (If you don't know how, search google for a tutorial)
6) Use Nero to burn the .iso file to DVD-R. Remember this is an iso so don't just burn it straight across, burn it as an image. (If you don't know how to burn an image, search google for a tutorial)
7) Put in it your Xbox, and it should be a working backup.
8) Rename the profile ("JOSS" I think it's called) to your name, change the nationality if you wish, and have fun finishing the game.
Hope this is of help to those of us who just want a working DVD-R backup.
If you guys already knew all this, then I should have read this thread more thoroughly right? ^^ hehe
Post by: rocky5 on April 06, 2006, 09:38:00 AM
Post by: cdev_19 on April 07, 2006, 12:13:00 AM
I put the above method up because if, like me, you want a backup for yourself no stress right now, it works fine. For example I had hired the game from the store and only had one night to get a backup before it was due for return. Big shout out to my best mate Blockbuster Video for sharing.
Keep up the good work guys.
Post by: jonels on April 07, 2006, 05:51:00 AM
If you can't do the correct image you're self because of you're older version Samsung then maybe you could get one off the internet.
Post by: dontasciime on April 07, 2006, 02:35:00 PM
I may be wrong, but these look like filesystem limitations and maybe a clever workaround on the ftp programs behalf to enable these images to be stored.
This post has been edited by dontasciime: Apr 7 2006, 09:36 PM
Post by: cdev_19 on April 07, 2006, 11:31:00 PM
I haven't had a corrupt save at any tier.
Post by: jonels on April 08, 2006, 05:25:00 AM
QUOTE(cdev_19 @ Apr 8 2006, 06:02 AM)
If the save corrupts then download the portuguese 100% complete save and either re-do the game as him or start a new profile.
I haven't had a corrupt save at any tier.
If you're save does corrupt (and it will unless you miraculously have a different copy of Toca 3 from the rest of us, and you already have the can't create new profile error, so why you don't get the save corruption error is quite a mystery, you probably not played it enough), would you let people on this thread know please. Many people had the save file corruption problem and I can't see why you'rs doesn't when virtually everyone elses does. Otherwise you're comments will only fud this thread.
Post by: cdev_19 on April 08, 2006, 10:17:00 PM
QUOTE(jonels @ Apr 8 2006, 12:32 PM)
so why you don't get the save corruption error is quite a mystery, you probably not played it enough), would you let people on this thread know please.
My bad - I made mistake in my last post - yes of course you cannot create a new profile it crashes in World Tour.
You can, however, rename the 100% save from Joss to your name as I said and play through the whole game again (basically, everything's already done, you are RE-DOING the game).
And for anyone out there confused as hell with all this kernel bashing FTP licking action, just stick with that copy of Race Driver 2 on your (that's your, not you're) harddrive - it's pretty much the same game (without the dismal tack-on modes consisting of monster trucks and lawn mowers)!
Someone close this thread already - 19 pages long and yet noone here has got a universal, workable solution for backing an original to the HDD.
Post by: Dreamcazman on April 09, 2006, 01:44:00 AM
I'm not smart enough in this area otherwise I'd have a crack at it myself. Is it that nobody's bothering or is it too hard? I dunno.
Post by: jonels on April 09, 2006, 04:37:00 AM
It's no wonder that Nkpatcher can achieve more stuff than chip-bios's as it's quite a bit more advanced and still has regular updates and is actively still being developed and improved..... hail Rhemal and the guys in XBE section who have kept it going with new improvements.
Lots of chip-owners already have dual setups for their xbox's. Trouble is those who buy their's ready chipped quite often have no idea how anything works, so chucking a couple of files on the c: drive is way beyond them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
This post has been edited by jonels: Apr 9 2006, 11:39 AM
Post by: cdev_19 on April 09, 2006, 05:40:00 AM
Also I must note that, "wow!", we are dazzled by your technical knowledge (that anyone can glean off these forums in half an hour), but somewhat confused by your misplaced and irrelevant defence of soft mods. Who are you talking to? Note the thread's name instead of name dropping.
Anyone who works that hard to demonstrate knowledge is trying to hide the fact that their mum held their hand while the mod-chip technician guy set up their Xbox. Flame on cause you got burnt.
This post has been edited by cdev_19: Apr 9 2006, 12:41 PM
Post by: jonels on April 09, 2006, 05:57:00 AM
You are wrong, Toca3 can be played off the HDD on any xbox, if you're equipment isn't up to it, upgrade it. Give me an Xbox with an old sammy drive and I'll have toca3 running off the HDD in no time (you can't dispute that, there are many ways to get a good ISO onto the hard-drive, using the owners original copy). Maybe you should take half-hour on these forums to get you're facts straight.... tit
This post has been edited by jonels: Apr 9 2006, 01:02 PM
Post by: cdev_19 on April 09, 2006, 05:42:00 AM
QUOTE(jonels @ Apr 9 2006, 12:28 PM)
Desired affect accomplished, didn't take as long as I thought.
I assume you mean "effect", however not sure what you mean by "accomplished". Perhaps "achieved" would be more appropriate?
QUOTE(jonels @ Apr 9 2006, 12:28 PM)
if you're equipment isn't up to it, upgrade it.
I have. It's called a 360.
QUOTE(jonels @ Apr 9 2006, 12:28 PM)
Give me an Xbox with an old sammy drive and I'll have toca3 running off the HDD in no time (you can't dispute that, there are many ways to get a good ISO onto the hard-drive, using the owners original copy).
If you don't have one how can you assert that it will work when there are people who have already experienced otherwise and said as much? I'm all ears to other methods (you have not provided a single one, apart from hijacking the well-intentioned Rocky5's method) but I fear you've driven this thread into the ground.
QUOTE(jonels @ Apr 9 2006, 12:28 PM)
Maybe you should take half-hour on these forums to get you're facts straight
Maybe you should take half an hour OFF these forums. There is a big world out there, and let me tell you, XBE exploits aren't going to be feeding your offspring (although I'm beginning to see why there is no need to worry about that).
Since it's like Kindergarten with the "cannot/can too" in here I'm going to move on.
Post by: jonels on April 09, 2006, 06:28:00 AM
Anyone can have this working on the HDD... fact. Whether that requires you to learn about new ways or buy/borrow new eqipment is completely irrelevant.... Anyone can have this running off the HDD.
Show some respect for the work in this thread and stop fudding it.
edit.. what's with the personal insults ??? are you some kind of nonce ?
This post has been edited by jonels: Apr 9 2006, 01:38 PM
Post by: sammy_j on April 09, 2006, 07:51:00 AM
I got a xbox soft mod with sammie drive too and i got same probs with balck screen when it comes to isorip... is their any help for this or is that what all teh yelling is about? some1 got a fix i hate running off the dvd and redo those 100% save games seem to work ok but i wanna unlock the game for myself (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
thanx
edit< is see that guy u say any1 can have it running, just have to buy/borrow equiptment. wth? that isn't a fix and doent help ppls like me
This post has been edited by sammy_j: Apr 9 2006, 02:55 PM
Post by: rocky5 on April 09, 2006, 09:36:00 AM
All you need to know is in the posts.
Post by: senator on April 09, 2006, 09:35:00 AM
Just My 2 cents... and if you flamers out there wanna flame me for NO reason then go ahead, coz I won't loose any sleep over some cock knuckle looking for a bite...
DON"T waste ya time. 
Peace and hopefully an easier solution will arrive soon which suits all !!!
Post by: the_dza2000 on April 09, 2006, 03:20:00 PM
Jonels stop rubbishing this thread and keep the soft mod diatribes where they belong - in the appropriate forums provided for by this site.
Rocky5 - thanks for the solution, worked a treat on my old thompson (i never thought that the tommos would beat out the sammies!)
cdev_19 - good work trying to help out those with sammies, shame there isn't a better way though at this point other than redoing a previous saved game
peace
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http://www.streetcommodores.com.au
Post by: jonels on April 09, 2006, 05:06:00 PM
It's a small fly in the oitment granted for those un-lucky enough to have the old Sammy drive, but the fix is good.
I can't see anyone producing extra features for chip bios's, so you just have to live with the fix, hope I'm wrong though for the small per-centage of users who can't/won't install a dual setup. I think it would be of great help to running games of the HDD period.. no need for patches or long file name fixes for any game.
I use the virtual-drive feature all the time now, it's so much more convinient and quicker...1 ISO file (or 2 split parts if the game is big) and 1 launcher file, works every time.
This post has been edited by jonels: Apr 10 2006, 12:14 AM
Post by: TOxER2 on April 10, 2006, 03:49:00 PM
Post by: hayvis on April 12, 2006, 07:48:00 AM
I don't normally post unless I have something more useful to say but this is really depressing me. Can I make a plea to a moderator to close this thread down and create a new one for the topic containing only the useful replies. Thankyou to all the genuine sceners who have contributed to the partial fixes through thier hard work.
Post by: TOxER2 on April 12, 2006, 01:03:00 PM
Note: Can only run from hard drive on xbox soft modded using nkpatcher and ube saved game exploits.
Howerver for those of us who want to backup our games and have a chipp'ed box try this.
Get isoripper onto your box
Put game to backup in cd/dvd on same box
run isoripper
Note: Screen will go blank, don't touch nothin let it work. Depending on game size could take upwards of 1 hour.
Once done get iso to computer and burn.
This worked for and xbox with an alldin chip. Play backup copy on a soft modded box to test it. And cd/dvd say's XBOX on it LOL so don't ask if it is a SAMMY or THOM
If this is to hard to follow then you probably should'nt try it, because you could F..... your box. LOL
Have Fun and thanks Rock5
Post by: killswitch26 on April 15, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: jonels on April 15, 2006, 04:06:00 PM
This post has been edited by jonels: Apr 15 2006, 11:07 PM
Post by: conners on April 16, 2006, 10:17:00 AM
Post by: kawaxbox on April 17, 2006, 05:21:00 AM
KawaXbox
Post by: senator on April 17, 2006, 06:43:00 AM
Post by: jonels on April 17, 2006, 07:30:00 AM
QUOTE(senator @ Apr 17 2006, 01:50 PM)
You still need to be able to rip the iso to hard drive, samsung owners still have same dramas, and it needs to be loaded with an iso loader to run from hard drive. So we are not any closer than when this post first started. Correct me if something has changed but I doubt it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Last I read on the new dvd2xbox thread, people with samsung drives (older ones, as newer ones work fine anyway) were having success with the iso-ripper included in the dvd2xbox application.
Also to run the created ISO via virtual tools from the HDD is very easy. You can run Nkpatcher as an app from any xbox that doesn't use xboxdash.xbe as it's bootpath (only very old chips require this) and have a lockable HDD
This is accomplished via the pbl meetoo bios loader (works on all kernels) a bfm retail bios (get correct one for you're kernel) and a simple ndure/nkpatcher setup. note.. a basic understanding of how to set the RC4 key is required with a retail bfm bios
Instead of moaning about what's not been done, why don't you do something you're self ?
Post by: senator on April 17, 2006, 07:17:00 AM
Post by: Mr Ed on April 18, 2006, 09:40:00 PM
QUOTE(jonels @ Apr 9 2006, 03:08 AM)
Softmod is universal. Nkpatcher is mainly an enhanced M8+ bios ( it patches the kernel rather than replacing it, it was built @ M8/M8+ routines/code and then majorly enhanced)... and it runs on any xbox. Chip owners have no excuse if they have an chip-off option or more than 1 bank so a retail bios can be used. The only thing stopping anyone from running Toca3 off the HDD is the person holding the controller.
Hmm universal? That's like saying an app is universal because it runs under Windows and fuck Unix.
I chipped my XBOX myself (soldered myself) and chose that route for a reason. I will never softmod. It's a fine scene, but it's not my scene. So personally I don't consider that a universal option.
Anyway, this thread is getting pretty annoying. I think all the helpful information that is going to be posted has been posted, so I'm considering closing it. It's like the NBA Live 2006 threads we kept closing because they degenerated into people complaining about the lack of a patch and didn't actually add any new/useful/technical information.
In summary, right now to run this game off of hard drive you need to run the virtual loader (same solution as NBA Live 2006 http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=445625 ) which only runs under soft modded boxes.
Of course you can backup the game to DVD-+R without a problem using popular backup and burning methods.
I believe that's what the summary of this thread is. I won't automatically close another Toca Race Driver 3 thread, if it adds good new information, or even adds helpful summary/details to the steps outlined in this thread already (as this thread is long and contains lots of unrelated information to actually achieving a successful hard drive backup.)
I'll watch this thread another day, but will most likely be closing it.
Post by: jonels on April 19, 2006, 04:34:00 AM
QUOTE(Mr Ed @ Apr 19 2006, 04:47 AM)
Hmm universal? That's like saying an app is universal because it runs under Windows and fuck Unix.
I chipped my XBOX myself (soldered myself) and chose that route for a reason. I will never softmod. It's a fine scene, but it's not my scene. So personally I don't consider that a universal option.
Anyway, this thread is getting pretty annoying. I think all the helpful information that is going to be posted has been posted, so I'm considering closing it. It's like the NBA Live 2006 threads we kept closing because they degenerated into people complaining about the lack of a patch and didn't actually add any new/useful/technical information.
In summary, right now to run this game off of hard drive you need to run the virtual loader (same solution as NBA Live 2006 http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=445625 ) which only runs under soft modded boxes.
Of course you can backup the game to DVD-+R without a problem using popular backup and burning methods.
I believe that's what the summary of this thread is. I won't automatically close another Toca Race Driver 3 thread, if it adds good new information, or even adds helpful summary/details to the steps outlined in this thread already (as this thread is long and contains lots of unrelated information to actually achieving a successful hard drive backup.)
I'll watch this thread another day, but will most likely be closing it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
I already worked out how to run Nkpatcher as an app from any xbox, I've tested it on my xbox (though I run Nkpatcher anyway) and my cousins TSOP 1.1 xbox ... so it is definately universal.
The samsung problem (older ones only) is unfortanate for anyone needing to use ISO-Ripper, but that's the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. A small fly in the ointment which is probably easily fixed.
But.. in discovering how to run Nkpacher as an app I read a lot of Rhemal's posts and found that he actually deliberately chose to make it a kernel patcher rather than a loadable bios (in-fact his early test work was all done using a loadable bios). I can guess at his reasons and I'm going to respect what I think they were and have decided to drop making an easy to setup app for everyone to use.
I have only worked on the Nkpatcher app for a week and a half but what a wonderful discovery of the Genius and hard work of guys like 'rhemal', 'pedros pad'.. ect.. it was... these guy's imo are Gods and have minds I could only dream of matching. Now when i see "softmods suck" or "Softmods can destroy you're Xbox" posts it makes me shake my head in the sheer ignorance and dis-respect of all the hard-work gone before, I even wonder why Xbox-Scene even allows such ignorance to prevail considering it's the home and birth-place of many of these wonderful gifts to the scene.
This post has been edited by jonels: Apr 19 2006, 11:42 AM
Post by: Neilor on April 19, 2006, 05:35:00 AM
Post by: kurt_powers69 on April 23, 2006, 07:11:00 AM
I've just waited 44mins for dvd2xbox 0.7.4 to finish ISO ripping to my E:\ drive which had about 50gig free. I tried running the virtual drive loading .xbe file and it just restarts to XBMC (which is my dashboard). Now I'm assuming this is because I'm using krayzies nDure savegame softmod version 1.1. Which has the latest nkpatcher (which I might be wrong) and you guys are using nkpatcher 8.1.
So what must I do to get the game loaded from hdd? Burning to disc is not an option as my network card dies after a shortwhile of heavy load.
--------------------Please don't close this thread Mr Ed. (Hey that rhymes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif))\
EDIT ::: Nevermind this post, I overlooked the fact that I was running from my debug bios.
This post has been edited by kurt_powers69: Apr 23 2006, 02:21 PM
Post by: vigilante_xix on April 29, 2006, 01:59:00 PM
QUOTE(hurders @ Feb 28 2006, 05:33 PM)
Problem is I only have an original seagate hardrive with about 4.5gig on the e partition so I couldn't create the iso seeing as the two parts in total come to 6.7gig. Hope someone can come up with a patch.
Wow... quite a long thread! Lots of banter at each other which makes up most of the 21 pages!!
Anyways, I think this may be usefull info for some (especially 'hurders')... I've managed to have a working dvd+r backup of this game and can access World tour and create profiles etc. Not played a great deal as of yet so don't know if saves will corrupt but will update.
I used dvd2xbox v0.7.5 and ripped directly to iso, to a samba share. Therefore, no large local disc required. Once the 2 iso's and default.xbe had finished copying over the network, directly to my PC (full notification and progress bar throughout), I used DVDDecrypter v3.5.4.0 to burn the first iso to a dvd and voila! (DVDDecryter was reccomended as apparantly, Nero can add bad data to a dvd when burning an iso. Don't know if that's true but this worked a treat and s/w really easy to use)
Also, tried to write the second iso to dvd+r and get 'Invalid or unsupported image file format!' error message which just re-enforces the theory that this is benign data to cause problems when copying.
Sorry this isn't to get the game to work from HDD, but this is a great way to get it working from dvd+r backup, without the use of the local HDD plus you get progress throughout the process.
Major shout-out to Rocky
though as this is just a slightly different take on his original idea.Thanks
Vigil
Post by: rex222 on May 15, 2006, 06:55:00 AM
Post by: seadolph on May 15, 2006, 11:20:00 AM
I followed Rocky5 instructions (but instead of using ISO ripper I used the last DVD2Box version) and I successfully installed Toca Race Driver 3 on my HDD.
I read about 60% of this thread but I got lost somehow, so I can't remember the gamesave advises. I will start playing right now, so I wouldn't like that my gamesaves turn corrupted in some point.
Could someone explain me IN EASY WORDS the way to make my gamesaves HEALTHFUL all over the way?
Reagards...Dolph.
Post by: Devedander on May 15, 2006, 02:46:00 PM
QUOTE(seadolph @ May 15 2006, 06:27 PM)
Hi all:
I followed Rocky5 instructions (but instead of using ISO ripper I used the last DVD2Box version) and I successfully installed Toca Race Driver 3 on my HDD.
I read about 60% of this thread but I got lost somehow, so I can't remember the gamesave advises. I will start playing right now, so I wouldn't like that my gamesaves turn corrupted in some point.
Could someone explain me IN EASY WORDS the way to make my gamesaves HEALTHFUL all over the way?
Reagards...Dolph.
You got it working off your hard drive? Did you try the world tour mode?
Backup your save game to a memory card or your computer.
Post by: seadolph on May 15, 2006, 05:21:00 PM
QUOTE(Devedander @ May 15 2006, 03:53 PM)
You got it working off your hard drive? Did you try the world tour mode?
Backup your save game to a memory card or your computer.
The game is installed onto my hard drive. My current progress is about 5% in the World Tour (I did not create my profile using the DVD, I created it by using my Hard Disk backup) . Mi games is Toca Race Driver 3 running over NTSC.
I guess that backing the gamesave over a memory card or the computer is just a caution way. Is there a way that gamesaves for this game don't get corrupted?
Best Regards...Dolph
Post by: AgentEB on May 15, 2006, 11:31:00 PM
QUOTE(seadolph @ May 15 2006, 07:28 PM)
The game is installed onto my hard drive. My current progress is about 5% in the World Tour (I did not create my profile using the DVD, I created it by using my Hard Disk backup) . Mi games is Toca Race Driver 3 running over NTSC.
I guess that backing the gamesave over a memory card or the computer is just a caution way. Is there a way that gamesaves for this game don't get corrupted?
Best Regards...Dolph
your game save will become corrupted at about 8-12% going through world tour. you'll be playing, saving and turning off your xbox thinking everything is fine and one day when you turn on your xbox and go to your profile, it will say it's damaged and will not load. i don't recommend throwing away your backup away because of this. keep it so you can play system link with your buddies if you got more then one xbox laying around. play off the original disk and host from the same xbox when in system link. you can play in all modes then.
Post by: seadolph on May 16, 2006, 10:58:00 AM
QUOTE(cornatbeat @ Mar 2 2006, 05:40 PM)
@joshua
i can create savegames with the ISOBACKUP without crashing and start the world-tour mode without crashing. i've renamed the E:\UDATA\"toca3save" folder in order to have NO savegame at all and the isobackup worked fine creating a new savegame. it behaves just like the original disc. i'm using my old savegame which has been created with the original disc. i dont know, if a savegame which has been created with a badcopy(dvd2xbox e.g.) can be used with the original or the isobackup.
dvd2xbox will ONLY rip the FILES and FOLDERS which are listed in the "FILE ALLOCATION TABLE" and no "spare/garbage" space. the backup with dvd2xbox is about 3,3gb.
data can be very easy "injected" into a filesystem without changing the "FAT". it's simply a RAW-WRITE into sectors. so the data/files won't show up in a directory listing but are still there (on the original disc). but as i mentioned, dvd2xbox as well as all other filemanagers can only copy files and folders and no raw data.
so for a nice copyprotection you only read sector XYZ on the disc and compare it. the backup won't contain your "injected" data, so you can tell the copy from the original
@XSOLJA
hehe the corruption comes very FAST
. do me a favor and complete the OVAL series in the PRO-MODE.if you get past the indy-racing-cars your backup should be ok - i think
. the oval series is very easy; takes about 30minutes. 5 - 6 tracks with 3 rounds each.thanks!
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Cornatbeat, Surtees or Whoever:
It seems that you have played the game without savegame problems. Could you exlain your process in EASY WORDS, step by step (you can do an easy checklist if you want) and if a software is needed could you provide us the link or source?
Regards...Dolph.
Post by: MP3mastR on May 18, 2006, 04:57:00 AM
I have an xecuter 3 chip, so can I follow the instructions provided by Rocky5?
(just confirming if these are the instructions)
1.download image drive 1.0.1 (virtual drive)
2.transfer the file called ISO Ripper.xbe to the xbox
3.now put your original copy of Race driver 3 in the xbox
4.you must have over 6.7Gb's on the hdd
5.now locate ISO ripper.xbe and pic it now wait the screen hangs but it hasnt just wait
6.after about 1hr it should go back to the dash now you should find a folder
7.called v8 supercars 3 or race driver 3 in it you will have 4 files 1. default.xbe 2. errorsectors.bin 3. v8 supercars 3 or race driver 3 part 1 and part 2 delete part 2
you dont need this and delete the errorsector.bin aswell and pick the default.xbe and the game will load if you want a backup then transfer the iso to the pc and burn thats it.
If not, is there are a way to play a backup copy on an X3?
Thanks
Post by: seadolph on May 18, 2006, 10:00:00 PM
Regards...Dolph.
Post by: h2j on May 20, 2006, 04:41:00 PM
First up, I know that there is no way to get a HD backup of toca 3 working on a chipped box.
Last night I got the (SC) exploit to work, for krayzies ndure exploit
Step 1 is backup eeprom. no worries, did that.
Questions:
1: Step 2 is install nkpatch .06 or .67. Now, with this, it appears to me, that it formats the harddrive, or at the very least sets up partitions. My problem with this is, I have already backed up a bunch of my games on f:, my HD is already set up etc. So by installing the softmod this way, I run the risk of losing all my games, music, dashes etc. Is that right?
2: Is there a simpler way of installing the Ndure exploit, given that I have access to the HD? I have read this thread on Ndure >>>
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...c=492703&st=165
Is that the answer to this question?
3: Will I still be able to run in both states? or are there files shared between the two states that I will have to change in order to run either state. if so, which files?
Essentially, is there a way to install the softmod to the point of being able to run a virtual drive, still keep all the abilities of the mod chip and not have to reload all my games to HD?
Another option is just to completely do away with the modchip side of things and go softmod only. do softmodded xboxes have the same amount of versatlility as chipped ones?
Thanks guys
Post by: jonels on May 21, 2006, 03:22:00 AM
QUOTE(h2j @ May 20 2006, 11:12 PM)
Righto, a couple of simple q's regarding a chipped box ---
First up, I know that there is no way to get a HD backup of toca 3 working on a chipped box.
Last night I got the (SC) exploit to work, for krayzies ndure exploit
Step 1 is backup eeprom. no worries, did that.
Questions:
1: Step 2 is install nkpatch .06 or .67. Now, with this, it appears to me, that it formats the harddrive, or at the very least sets up partitions. My problem with this is, I have already backed up a bunch of my games on f:, my HD is already set up etc. So by installing the softmod this way, I run the risk of losing all my games, music, dashes etc. Is that right?
2: Is there a simpler way of installing the Ndure exploit, given that I have access to the HD? I have read this thread on Ndure >>>
http://forums.xbox-s...c=492703&st=165
Is that the answer to this question?
3: Will I still be able to run in both states? or are there files shared between the two states that I will have to change in order to run either state. if so, which files?
Essentially, is there a way to install the softmod to the point of being able to run a virtual drive, still keep all the abilities of the mod chip and not have to reload all my games to HD?
Another option is just to completely do away with the modchip side of things and go softmod only. do softmodded xboxes have the same amount of versatlility as chipped ones?
Thanks guys
If you have a a F and G drive use 67 .. if you only have a F use 06 (be sure to get this right or you could lose the games/programmes on you're HardDrive)
You will only get a conflict if you're chip setup boots 'c:\xboxdash.xbe' .if it does then change the boot path for you're chip bios with an editor.
Remember for the softmod/nkpatcher (UXE.. Ndure.. ect) to run it needs to be booted on a retail bios .. this means either turn you're chip off or switch to a bank that has the retail bios for you're xbox on it.
Post by: h2j on May 21, 2006, 04:09:00 PM
I'm still learning with all this modding stuff so I appreciate your reply. I dl'ed the ndure for pc installer last night, setup a few different configs and found that yeah, only this and one other file (xonlinedash) were in both setups. No other conflicting files, which was much better than I was expecting! I'm not sure if xonline dash is setup differently for both modes, but I should be able to work around that one way or another.
yeah, the chip has the ability to store multiple bioses (retail is already setup), so I should be able to store them for each different setup.
Ideally, I'll have it that I'll have the retail, softmodded and evox bioses selectable from the chip menu. best of both worlds, not that there is much you cant do with a softmodded xbox nowadays, I'll just have a safer recovery option if i do dick something up. which hopefully I wont
Time to edit.
Jeremy
Post by: cornatbeat on May 23, 2006, 02:43:00 AM
this is my gameprogress ( last saved : 20.04.2006 - no time to play @ the moment
)Total Progress : 77%
World Tour : 61% ( Tier 20 )
Pro Mode : Classic(54%), GT(100%), Oval (100%), Touring Car(100%), OffRoad(100%) OpenWheel(100%), TMS(100%) , HONDA(NOT UNLOCKED)
playing from backup of course
backup made with ISORIPPER and of course the ORIGINAL DVD
.isoripper took about 45 to 60mins and created 2 FILES ( like xyz_part1(~4gb), xyz_part2(~2gb)
i've burned the 1st part (xyz_part1) on a dvd-r (rw in my case). works fine as you can see
you can get isoripper from the usual places ...
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: seadolph on May 23, 2006, 10:36:00 AM
QUOTE(cornatbeat @ May 23 2006, 03:50 AM)
@seadolph and everyone else, who's interested
this is my gameprogress ( last saved : 20.04.2006 - no time to play @ the moment
)Total Progress : 77%
World Tour : 61% ( Tier 20 )
Pro Mode : Classic(54%), GT(100%), Oval (100%), Touring Car(100%), OffRoad(100%) OpenWheel(100%), TMS(100%) , HONDA(NOT UNLOCKED)
playing from backup of course
backup made with ISORIPPER and of course the ORIGINAL DVD
.isoripper took about 45 to 60mins and created 2 FILES ( like xyz_part1(~4gb), xyz_part2(~2gb)
i've burned the 1st part (xyz_part1) on a dvd-r (rw in my case). works fine as you can see
you can get isoripper from the usual places ...
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Cornatbeat:
This is mine:
Total Progress : 21%
World Tour : 42% ( Tier 13)
Pro Mode : 0%
I am playing from my HDD and I haven't received the "corrupt profile" messages so far (I am crossing fingers). What did I do? Nothing, I mean, the same as you(following Rocky5 - the guru instructions)but instead of ISORIPPER I did it with DVD2Xbox (the last version makes isos, and it's faser and more stable than ISORIPPER).
I don't know, maybe it's the version of the game, mine is TOCA RACE DRIVER 3, NTSC. I am not sure, maybe the corruption in savegame is only for the other versions (Australian, PAL, etc).
BTW, I don't know what's happening, but even when the game is on my HDD, the Xbox is recognizing it as a DVD, because every time that my console starts it autolaunch the game, so I turned off the autolaunch option of UnleashX (my dashboard) and it's just my assumption that the savegame is not getting corrupted about this.
I thought that you were running the game also from your HDD, but I saw that you are running it from your DVD backup, even though, do you (or someone else ) have an advice in order to skip problems in the future? (remember that my progress is only about 21%).
Best Regards...Dolph.
Post by: cornatbeat on May 23, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
try to get your TOTAL PROGRESS beyond 28%. do some pro-mode action in oval and offroad.
set to 1 lap, no qualify and crash your way to the top. worked fine for me.
if you can get the total game progress over 28% oder 30%, your backup might be ok.
i vaguely remember that "things" got messy @28%. i haven't tried dvd2xbox latest version yet.
been busy with my awesome "xbox-like" handheld (gbm +m3perfect minisd)
cya&hf
cornatbeat
Post by: seadolph on May 30, 2006, 01:08:00 PM
So far, my total progress is up to 28%. Just as caution I have backed up the gamesave in the memory card. I will follow your advice, I will start playing some pro-mode. If I understood you fine, I guess that if I top on 30%, the "ghost" won't appear.
Have you finished the game? or, what's your progress?
Regards...Dolph.
Post by: dafaking on May 31, 2006, 07:37:00 PM
Softmod Xbox.
Dvd2xbox 7.5. You can rip an iso to a samba share... so disk size/type,etc. is not an issue.
Burn Part0.iso with Dvd decryptor or something similiar. (per rocky's suggestion)
Done.
If you want to play off of hdd.....use virtual drive. (per rocky's suggestion)
It is that simple. I swear..... This is so simple it is silly.
Not sure about gamesave corruption... but backing up your gamesave seems to be a good idea.
If you don't understand the terms, software and methods above...you need to educate yourself some more.
I'm not reinventing the wheel with my post. I have already spent way to much time reading this long @ss thread.
Peace.
Btw...I just registered to give my 2 cents.
So.... if a newbie like me can do it....than anyone can.
Heck, I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
I think I'm going to go and play da fa king game right now.
Peace.
Post by: cayotic on June 08, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
For those not wanting to read all 22 pages please refer to Rocky5 post.
In summary, Toca Race Driver 3 will not boot from the HDD unless you are using a softmod exploit such as Ndure or Krazie's. I use the Ndure's exploit. Just like NBA live 2006 this game has to be in an iso format an launch using a virtual drive.
I can't remember where I found the virtual drive default.xbe but I'm sure it's in the usual places. All I did was borrow the default.xbe from my NBA live 2006 folder and Toca launched just fine.
There were reports that the save game profile became currupt during a particular part of a game. Some have stated that this is no longer a problem when installing the game in iso format. I haven't gotten that far yet.
Good work Rocky5.
Post by: da_houghsta on June 14, 2006, 09:35:00 PM
now i have actually read all the posts from the 22 pages (although by the end i sorta skipped a couple...). im not exactly an expert on all this. i have just bought the aussie v8 supercars 3 and want to make a back-up. i have a V1.0 xbox with thompson drive and has an aladin (i think?) chip with the stock HDD. from what i understand, i need to get iso ripper onto the xbox and make an iso that way and then burn that to a disc right? but will the fact that i dont have 6.5 gig of space on the xbox be a problem? i already ftped the disc from the xbox to the pc (2.95 gig) and made an xiso using xxxiso, and burnt that (as i have done to about 25 of my other games with no probs) i have had the same prob as everyone else with the world tour not loading at all. does this mean i will just have to be veeerrryyy careful with the original (i have a thompson, and use it a heap and is starting to die - any minor smudge or scratch confuses it!!!)? im rly sorry if i have missed something that someone has said before - but it seemed to me that everyone was working on how to get it onto the HDD.
on the other hand - i have a spare 20 gig hdd from an old PC. however since i did not install the chip or the evo x desktop - the guy that did has disabled the backup function (so that i can transfer the xbox data to the new hdd) and wont tell me how to do it myself - only will charge me $50 to install the hdd. how can i find out exactly what he has done to evo x and what i can do to swap the hdd over? again sorry if this has already been said.
Post by: denz13 on June 18, 2006, 05:07:00 AM
Thanks Denz13
Post by: denz13 on June 18, 2006, 07:58:00 AM
1. Put isoripper into e: apps
2.Put original disc in drive
3. Run Isoripper
4. got part1 of the two iso's ftp'd to my pc
5. burnt the iso using nero to a dvd
The game starts fine and can navigate through the menus no probs, but when I try start any race it just freezes for about 10 seconds then says dirty disc error. Any ideas highly appricieted
Tnx Denz13
Post by: hemi265 on June 27, 2006, 12:02:00 AM
now back when he sorted it out i tried his methods and sucseeded
ok i have a 1.6b fitted with a duox2 lite (no softmod)
and after i ripped the 6.7g file to hdd all i did was click on the xbe file and it loaded up v8 supercars from hdd no problems. neva even had the original boot, since then i have not once used the original disk. i have no exploits or game hacks for it or virtual drive installed. 100% clean copy after a few weeks i completed game sucsessfully no freezing, corupt games saves. game save was made from the copy
so it is possible to play from hdd with a chip using rocky5's coping method
i have also a few other games on hdd this way and all play fine 2
Post by: shadow23 on June 27, 2006, 01:43:00 AM
QUOTE(hemi265 @ Jun 27 2006, 04:09 PM)
ok i just found this post again as i was reading it when rocky5 found the secret great work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
now back when he sorted it out i tried his methods and sucseeded
ok i have a 1.6b fitted with a duox2 lite (no softmod)
and after i ripped the 6.7g file to hdd all i did was click on the xbe file and it loaded up v8 supercars from hdd no problems. neva even had the original boot, since then i have not once used the original disk. i have no exploits or game hacks for it or virtual drive installed. 100% clean copy after a few weeks i completed game sucsessfully no freezing, corupt games saves. game save was made from the copy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
so it is possible to play from hdd with a chip using rocky5's coping method (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
i have also a few other games on hdd this way and all play fine 2
I'd like to try this with a chip xbox. Which topic number is it in?
Post by: davebordon on September 01, 2006, 06:48:00 PM
Here's an interesting one. I tried the old fashioned method of backing up the game, used boxplorer to copy it to the hdd (less the number files) and burned it to a disc.
When the game went to boot all it had was a picture of a red chip in the corner of the screen. Nothing more.
This was on the Aussie version.
Anyone else seen this. I thought it was wierd.
Since then I have used Rocky5's method. Kudos to rocky.
Post by: seadolph on January 05, 2007, 09:03:00 PM
QUOTE(shadow23 @ Jun 27 2006, 01:14 AM)
I'd like to try this with a chip xbox. Which topic number is it in?
Hi:
Shadow23, Rocky5 or has someone find the way to run the game from a chipped Xbox1.
Regards..Seadolph.
Post by: robot2 on January 05, 2007, 09:32:00 PM
Post by: Karcus on January 14, 2007, 03:47:00 AM
Post by: Nightbird on January 15, 2007, 10:11:00 AM
QUOTE(Karcus @ Jan 14 2007, 10:54 AM)
Hmm...all I did was use DVD2Xbox (latest) and rip as iso to my HDD. Of course I have softmod... Don't see why chipped consoles can't do the same. Unleash X and XBMC detects the game in their menu and launches from there with no other work.
Reason it doesn't work with modchips from the iso on the hard drive is because the virtual cd/dvd is a feature of nkpatcher.
Post by: preludexl on February 10, 2007, 02:58:00 AM
I followed this procedure I read in here...but I didnt include "update.xbe and dashupdate.xbe" in the iso I made with isoripper.
I followed these steps:
"1.download image drive 1.0.1 (aka driveimageutils-v1.0.1)
2.transfer the file called ISO Ripper.xbe to the xbox
3.now put your original copy of Race driver 3 in the xbox
4.you must have over 6.7Gb's on the hdd
5.now locate ISO ripper.xbe and pick it(start it up);
now wait the screen hangs but it hasnt just wait.
6.after about 1hr it should go back to the dash now you should find a folder
7.called v8 supercars 3 or race driver 3 in it you will have 4 files:
1. default.xbe
2. errorsectors.bin
3. v8 supercars 3, or race driver 3 part 1 and part 2; delete part 2
you dont need this and delete the errorsector.bin, as well; and pick the default.xbe and the game will load.
if you want a backup, then transfer the iso to the pc and burn."
I clicked on default.xbe and all it did was go into a blank screen and hang. The dvd backup I made from the iso image part1 with nero7 doesnt get recognized as a game in the dvd drive.
I stuck the attach.xbe from driveimageutils-v1.0.1, and renamed it default.xbe in the Toca folder inside E:Games folder, and erased the default.xbe that was made with the 2 part iso's when I ripped it. When I reboot, it shows an option with Attach Virtual Image, as one of the options in the games folder when I access it along with the other games I have in there....but when I click on it to attach the image, it just reboots.
Do I have to redo the softmod and use a different package? I really dont want to go thru all that hassle.
Post by: falcon1983 on May 06, 2007, 01:45:00 AM
I bought V8 Supercars 3 (PAL) a couple weeks ago now and i like to make backups of my game before my little brother scratches them on me (he's already ruined NFSU and Halo 2). Being the most fantastic racing game i've ever played I don't wanna lose this one.
Not being able to back it up to my HDD is fine but there must be a way of backing it up to DVD without requiring the 6.7GB HDD space or backing it up so that it still appears to be a 6.7GB disc to the xbox.
I've read all the pages in the thread, I think, and can't find my solution. I'm not a complete NOOB as i'm capable of backing up all my own discs (except this one) but laymans terms would help.
I have a softmodded xbox (I didn't do it), a stock xbox hard drive, dvd2xbox 0.4.9 (I have 0.7.8 but can't get it to work) and I usually use CloneXB v2.3 Beta to create my ISO's after i've flashFXP'd them to my PC.
Any help whatsoever would be greatly appreciated.
Falcon
[email protected]
Post by: evilteddy on July 07, 2007, 03:48:00 PM
Post by: ACiDNATiON on July 07, 2007, 05:57:00 PM
QUOTE(evilteddy @ Jul 7 2007, 11:24 PM)
If you do not have a large enough hard drive to be able to use ISO ripper then get the latest version of dvd2xbox, use the iso ripper and rip directly to the samba share. Using this method those with stock drives can rip iso from larger games.
Or FTP into D:\ and copy the files to PC hard drive.
Or use CloneXB.
Post by: GregToR on November 26, 2007, 01:40:00 AM
but the use of isoripper to play the ISO from hdd doesn't work with my softmodded XBox,
my softmod: Softmod Installer Deluxe 5.01 (SID),
and I've installed dual boot XBMC dashboard (MS dash when turned on by eject)
with Auto Installer Deluxe 4.12 (AID),
the ripping goes fine, the files are there,
but when it tries to load it just goes back to XBMC dash...
I've tried it with a Crystal v1.6 XBox which has a Philips DVD-drive that reads all media (cdr, dvd-+r, dvd+-rw)
and a v1.0 XBox with a Thomson drive, both same result...
also, DVD2Xbox also has an ISO ripper mode (if you press yellow Y you can switch normal and ISO mode),
but gives same result, the game does not load, just goes back to XBMC dash after some seconds?!
but why is everyone making all this
fuzz about isoripper out of driveimageutils-v1.0.1 if DVD2Xbox has also an isoripper in it? which has an interface so you can see the progress all the way 
!is that caused by the fact it's not nkpatcher or ndure softmod?
or because it's a dual boot softmod so the XBMC dashboard is on the E partition (and not on C), or because it mounts a virtual C for the softmod?
what is actually the latest updated softmod?
I just go with SID5.01 since that's still bundled with latest updated AID4.12 (October 2007),
anyone have a clue or info about the difference in softmods?
thanks in advance,
Regards &
take care!
Post by: GregToR on November 26, 2007, 02:22:00 AM
QUOTE
the XBEPatcher is a simple tool to help you play your
original xbox games from the HD even when the game has long filenames.
REVISIONS :
0.3 : NTSC MTX support
0.2 : MTX Mototrax specific patching
0.1 : Generic patching
HOWTO :
to use it make a CLEAN ftp of the game from the D: drive of your
xbox to the PC HD , then copy the XBEPatcher.exe into the game
directory that you created on your PC HD and from an MS-DOS shell
run the XBEPatcher using the following options :
XBEPatcher -mtx : patch MTX Mototrax PAL version
XBEPatcher -mtx_ntsc : patch MTX Mototrax NTSC version
XBEPatcher : with no option will try a generic patch (BETA)
< USE ONLY IF YOU ARE BETA TESTING >
once patched you can delete the file "default.xbe.bak" (is the not
patched original file) and ftp all the game back to your xbox HD.
original xbox games from the HD even when the game has long filenames.
REVISIONS :
0.3 : NTSC MTX support
0.2 : MTX Mototrax specific patching
0.1 : Generic patching
HOWTO :
to use it make a CLEAN ftp of the game from the D: drive of your
xbox to the PC HD , then copy the XBEPatcher.exe into the game
directory that you created on your PC HD and from an MS-DOS shell
run the XBEPatcher using the following options :
XBEPatcher -mtx : patch MTX Mototrax PAL version
XBEPatcher -mtx_ntsc : patch MTX Mototrax NTSC version
XBEPatcher : with no option will try a generic patch (BETA)
< USE ONLY IF YOU ARE BETA TESTING >
once patched you can delete the file "default.xbe.bak" (is the not
patched original file) and ftp all the game back to your xbox HD.
if used without any special commands (so just run the .exe),
it renames the 5 files that have too long filenames and patches the default.xbe,
those 5 long files are now:
01566257402957006257349845861827402934(null)
etc. (so each time made shorter with at end (null))
I've tried it, did not work, I notice that the end of the files when ftp'ed back to the hdd end with (null
so that means the XBEPatcher still generates too long filenames...no luck there, don't understand why the patcher still makes too long filenames, or maybe it's something else and the end (null) does not matter at all, don't know...
if you use command XBEPatcher -mtx, nothing happens (I have the UK PAL version)...
maybe anyone knows more about this?
ciaoooo
Post by: GregToR on November 26, 2007, 02:34:00 PM
also does not work from hdd,
also tried the isoripper of DVD2Xbox with other game (that also works in file mode),
still no luck...
I guess my softmod doesn't support iso's from hdd?
regards!
Post by: xman954 on November 26, 2007, 07:56:00 PM
but you must be using a NKPatcher softmod with the virtual CDRom enabled (kingroach's NDURE 3.1 is enabled by default)
you must rip the game using driveimageutils (other games can be riped with DVD2XBOX but not this one)
and use attach.xbe to mount it (renamed to default.xbe)
Race_Driver_3-434d0050.part1.iso (4.19GB)
Race_Driver_3-434d0050.part2.iso (2.67GB)
Post by: GregToR on December 01, 2007, 10:44:00 PM
but I'm going to extract the iso and make an iso of the files with Qwix,
because the ISO made by isoripper is 4gb (the 1st part which is only needed for the game),
while the ISO made by Qwix is only 3gb... (tried the ISO made by Qwix (created directly from DVD-drive),
but that ISO didn't work... it boots, but after I select or make profile I get black screen and it stays like that...
thanks a lot for mentioning, very much appreciated,
take care &
kind regards!