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Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: nas6034 on July 23, 2004, 09:04:00 PM
do u think that they might be a halo 3 and if so do u think it would be mostly likely be for xb2
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: Inches on July 23, 2004, 09:07:00 PM
I have really no idea. There are no indications of a halo 3 because halo 2 hasn't even come out yet. But if they do make a halo 3, it will be on xb2
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Post by: SKllZ on July 23, 2004, 09:11:00 PM
Let’s just concentrate on Halo 2 coming out first!
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Post by: blackchild1101 on July 23, 2004, 08:24:00 PM
halo 2 Looks OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH so GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!! ohmy.gif

Can't wait to play it.... It's M$ version of crack... yes digtal crack without the ugly track marks wink.gif
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Post by: joseph_hac on July 23, 2004, 09:32:00 PM
QUOTE (blackchild1101 @ Jul 23 2004, 10:27 PM)
halo 2 Looks OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH so GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!! ohmy.gif

Can't wait to play it.... It's M$ version of crack... yes digtal crack without the ugly track marks wink.gif

You smoke crack. You don't inject it.
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Post by: D3v0n on July 23, 2004, 10:53:00 PM
I thought that Bungie had gone on the record somewhere saying that they were definetely NOT going to make a Halo 3.
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Post by: X2Gamer on July 23, 2004, 10:56:00 PM
i don't think they should make halo 3. I think they should make something new and original because most sequels have a tough time of surpassing there predcessors.
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Post by: telexen on July 23, 2004, 11:05:00 PM
I definitely think there will be a third..but it won't be close to as good as the first two...because that's just how games are.

Companies see what a success one is and stick with it until they run it into the ground - somehow though people still think they're good games

Look what Valve has done with Half Life ... that game sucked all along and there were how many clones of it?
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: D3v0n on July 23, 2004, 11:13:00 PM
QUOTE (telexen @ Jul 24 2004, 06:05 AM)
I definitely think there will be a third..but it won't be close to as good as the first two...because that's just how games are.

Companies see what a success one is and stick with it until they run it into the ground - somehow though people still think they're good games

Look what Valve has done with Half Life ... that game sucked all along and there were how many clones of it?

 Actually, I think that X2Gamer put it quite nicely. A third one wouldn't make for a good game, and it might not even make any sense. If in Halo 2 you get to "take the battle to the covenant," you are probably going to be doing something that either kills them all, or creates peace, so a third one would be illogical (if that happens in the game).

In regards to Half-Life, I don't think there would be so many clones of it if it did indeed "suck all along". I thought Half-Life was a great game with a good storyline, and I think Half-Life 2 will be even better.
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Post by: apw100 on July 23, 2004, 11:20:00 PM
I would bet that there will be a Halo3 for XBOX2.  It might not be done by Bungie, but rest assured, it will be done.  There is no way that MS would kill off its number one franchise, there is too much money to be made
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Post by: D3v0n on July 23, 2004, 11:29:00 PM
WHOAH, WHOAH, WHOAH!! Hold on a minute! A Halo game not done by Bungie?! you are out of your frickin' mind!! That's like....Jeez....I can't even think of a good comparison, it's that bad!
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Post by: X2Gamer on July 23, 2004, 11:33:00 PM
well its not uncommon for companies to give big franchises to another developer to make.
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Post by: gamehack on July 24, 2004, 03:33:00 AM
they could do halo 3 as the fall of reach.  going back to an earlier time in the war while there were still lots of other spartan II's around.
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Post by: ragelizard on July 24, 2004, 08:16:00 AM
Concentrate on Halo 2 first man.  tongue.gif
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: total_ass on July 24, 2004, 10:17:00 AM
QUOTE (gamehack @ Jul 24 2004, 09:33 AM)
they could do halo 3 as the fall of reach.  going back to an earlier time in the war while there were still lots of other spartan II's around.

fall of reach is a wicked book, i really think they should make a game or a film out of it. But then again, the start would be too similar to starship troopers. And where Keyes takes on all those ships would be too much like Star Trek. laugh.gif
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Post by: lordvader129 on July 24, 2004, 12:00:00 PM
QUOTE (gamehack @ Jul 24 2004, 03:33 AM)
they could do halo 3 as the fall of reach.  going back to an earlier time in the war while there were still lots of other spartan II's around.

ive generally foudn that going from a chronological series into a prequel is usually a sign of deparation, its like "we wrapped the story up in the last installment, but we still think we can milk some more money out of the frachise" and prequels always suck
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Post by: staticFLINT on July 24, 2004, 12:41:00 PM
QUOTE (polyesterjones @ Jul 24 2004, 10:43 AM)
You might want to rethink that.

you DO smoke crack, injecting is a NO.

anyways... halo 3 i doubt it. Bungie with there millions in hands will problly start a new project after Halo2. Halo3 would just be pushin it to make some extra money, it would prolly be a shitty game and riun the franchise.
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Post by: lordvader129 on July 24, 2004, 02:21:00 PM
maybe theyll go the Id Software way, halo 3 will come out in 2015 and will be one of the most anticipated games in history, lol
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Post by: adil786 on July 24, 2004, 03:02:00 PM
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Post by: Foe-hammer on July 24, 2004, 03:18:00 PM
What would be nice is if bungie did a remake of halo 1 and halo 2 all in one game for the xbox 2, and thus take advantage of the new systems horse power.  I for one would buy the game.
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Post by: iLLNESS on July 24, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
yeah
it wont be halo3

itll be some new game running off the halo engine

xbox will turn into pc for fps...

heh
how many games run off the q3 engine?
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: lordvader129 on July 24, 2004, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE (xFusioNx @ Jul 24 2004, 04:50 PM)
I don't think that approach would work the same on a console as it does on the PC.

Licensing out game engines doesnt happen very often on consoles, so I wouldn't expect to see it anytime soon.

due to the standardized hardware in the console industry creating a whole new game engine is just as easy/cheap as licensing a pre-existing
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Post by: Foe-hammer on July 25, 2004, 02:25:00 AM
QUOTE (lordvader129 @ Jul 25 2004, 12:26 AM)
due to the standardized hardware in the console industry creating a whole new game engine is just as easy/cheap as licensing a pre-existing

Creating a good engine, like halo 2's, is obviously not easy.  Just look at all the garbage engines developers have created for their shitty games.  Thus, if halo engine was available to other developers you would sure as hell see other developers for the xbox using it.

Xbox developers use the unreal engine for a number of games.  Creating a good engine still take much time and talent no matter if it's pc or console.
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Post by: ddrfreak80 on July 25, 2004, 04:01:00 AM
I think they will make a halo3 probably around the time ps3 comes out so xbox2 will be about a year old thats what i think anyways.
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Post by: MrBones on July 25, 2004, 11:44:00 AM
It will be a game based on the Halo 2 engine.  That's what Bungie already said.  They said they have no intention of ruining the story.
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Post by: joseph_hac on July 25, 2004, 09:59:00 PM
QUOTE (polyesterjones @ Jul 24 2004, 12:43 PM)
You might want to rethink that.

Rethink what? Have you ever injected crack?
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: Moleman on July 25, 2004, 10:13:00 PM
QUOTE (lordvader129 @ Jul 24 2004, 03:03 PM)
ive generally foudn that going from a chronological series into a prequel is usually a sign of deparation, its like "we wrapped the story up in the last installment, but we still think we can milk some more money out of the frachise" and prequels always suck

Reminds me of Star Wars.......
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Post by: B1ack1CE on July 25, 2004, 10:39:00 PM
a halo 3 would be dumb  No plot at all u got to be kidding me
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Post by: DaBeast77 on July 26, 2004, 01:04:00 AM
I'd love a  to prequel the series. I don't want to read the book.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: lordvader129 on July 26, 2004, 05:52:00 PM
QUOTE (B1ack1CE @ Jul 25 2004, 11:42 PM)
a halo 3 would be dumb  No plot at all u got to be kidding me

why would it have no plot?


QUOTE
Creating a good engine, like halo 2's, is obviously not easy. Just look at all the garbage engines developers have created for their shitty games. Thus, if halo engine was available to other developers you would sure as hell see other developers for the xbox using it.

Xbox developers use the unreal engine for a number of games. Creating a good engine still take much time and talent no matter if it's pc or console.


also realize that the amount of time effort and money put into an engine (halo) will be proportional to the amount of money it costs to license it

as for the unreal engine, i know nothing of what games use this engine, but i would check to see who the developers of the games using it are, i would wager that many or all of them are owned by the original developer of unreal
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Post by: iwinulose on July 26, 2004, 07:07:00 PM
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Post by: ..[[ModBoxMaster]].. on July 26, 2004, 07:41:00 PM
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Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: blackchild1101 on July 27, 2004, 05:38:00 PM
QUOTE (joseph_hac @ Jul 24 2004, 05:35 AM)
You smoke crack. You don't inject it.

Ahh spoken like a true Crack Head!
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: lordvader129 on July 27, 2004, 05:44:00 PM
you mean dont all just light crack bonfires in your living room and fill the whole house?
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Post by: blackchild1101 on July 27, 2004, 05:59:00 PM
I remeber reading a while back that Halo 3 was planned as one of the launch titles for the new Xenon / Xbox 2.

As for story I'm pretty sure Bungie has a LOT of good ideas for the Halo 3. The big  question is the gameplay. Will there be a big enough difference in Halo 3's gameplay to make it worthy of a sequal.

Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: fredmoreno42 on July 27, 2004, 06:35:00 PM
i dont realy know anything about a halo 3, but im just waitin for halo2 to come out, its gonna b the coolest thing since sliced bread
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Post by: MiL0 on July 28, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
QUOTE (polyesterjones @ Jul 28 2004, 02:33 AM)
No I haven't even ever used crack, though I know you can smoke it as well as inject it.  When first marketed as a "a valuable brain-tonic and cure for all nervous afflictions," it was generally injected.  Until about 1915, it could be bought over-the-counter.  

Then, as injecting recreational drugs became more and more of a taboo, a smoke-able form was made.

that's cocaine mate
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Post by: oside on July 28, 2004, 04:41:00 PM
I'd be happy if they made an expansion pack/disc w/just new levels for multiplayer. Still think that's what they should have done to hold us off while we've waited (& waited) for Halo 2.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: zot23 on July 28, 2004, 05:09:00 PM
I have a crazy idea, let's play Halo 2 and see where the story goes before we decide if there will be a Halo 3 or not.  Saying absolutely not is like saying Star Wars would absolutely not have a third movie after Empire Strikes Back because everything was tapped.  Obviously from watching Empire there was no way in hell that there couldn't be another Star Wars movie.  It was begging for Jedi to wrap it all up.

Halo could be the same way.  Don't believe me?  Here's a three game storyline that would knock you on your @sses:

Halo 1: Well, we know this one.

Halo 2: MC returns to Earth where the Covs are attacking.  After landing and fighting the covs a bit, he discovers that Earth is a nexus of Forerunner technology and has some sort of connection to a much more sinister and evil plot to scrouge our galaxy of all life (ala their Flood in H1.)  The Covenant have been trying to stop this plan from happening, we just happened to get in their way.  Cortana is actually an evil agent AI for this Forerunner plan and she manuveured the Pillar of Autumn into landing on the original Halo in order to remove a malfunctioning other AI (343 Guilty Spark.)  Her mission complete and the needed information/materials (flood) retreived from Halo, she brings MC back to Earth to complete the plan.  She opens a gate to another dimension and the Forerunners (or their servants) arrive and begin genociding Earth.  The Covenant reveal that they have their own AI lifted from ancient technology that has driving them on the last few decades.  Earth, MC, and the Covs team up to close this hole, end the war, and save themselves.  MC kills Cortana (or sends her back) and the galaxy is saved.

Halo 3:  After a period of peace and understanding, the Cov/Earth alliance learns that the Fores are going to launch a new overpowering assault.  They decide to reopen the gate and take the fight to the Forerunners instead of waiting for death.  They either convince MC to fight again or you are cast as a new "super" cyborg with all the best Cov/Earth tech.  After being flung through the gate, the mission is a disaster and it is up to you (and the ancient AI) to shut the Forerunners down for good.  Throughout the game you run across more and more technology that transforms MC into a super-being.  You discover the Forerunners implanted humans on Earth to care for the eventual gate opening (after the flood) but that the plan had gone awry and humans lost their path.  You face all the servants at their disposal and finally implode the Fore super weapon on themsleves (with the help of the last remaining Cov/Earth troops), wiping out their entire universe, all the Forerunners, and saving our universe in the process.


See, three games no problem...

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Post by: ..[[ModBoxMaster]].. on July 29, 2004, 04:31:00 PM

nvm!  Halo 3 Definatly
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Post by: xFusioNx on July 31, 2004, 02:57:00 PM
....

And what exactly was "sub-par" about the PC port of Halo?

(Aside from the ridiculously unbalanced fuel rod noob canon and the completely useless in a large map flame thrower.)

Other than those few shortcomings, the game is just as superb as the xbox version. The textures are much better, the visuals are even better and the frame rate is also perfect with all the eyecandy. Oh and plus you can play 16 players online instead of 4 the hacked way.
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Post by: DCT on August 02, 2004, 04:38:00 PM
Its very possible that a Halo 3 could come about.
Reading all the books, and knowing what will happen at the beginning of the game (if all stays the same as the book)
Halo 2 may not be long enough to complete the story. Anything is possible though.
If anyone has read First Strike they should know that doctor Halsey and Kelly have left somewhere. (could be to get the spartan 3's preped)
Halo 1 only focused on Halo 04 and their are more Halo's that the Forerunner made.
The flood still exsist. The orb the covenant were after got destroyed by a marine.
They still have a motive; its not to kill MC (that was Halo 1, with Zuka Zammame(an elite)).

Halo 3 would be way beyond the other 2 games. I don't know you all can't see what I can see but Halo 3 would make every FPS crawl at its feet.

The story of Halo is not about MC John 117. Its about a war between Covenant and Humans.
The spartans are used to balance the playing field between both sides. Also Halo is not about one main character. MC may die, Cortana may die. Example of this is Keys, over 50 dead spartans, Forehammer, Sam.
Its just to many good ppl dieing. I believe that Bungie will keep a good story going and break away from most action based games that have a HERO and that hero wins. They may have MC to die in the story to give you since of real life and not a fairy tale. Some of the greatest HERO'S were KIA (killed in action). John is a great leader annd his team is willing to die for him and he is willing to die for them.

I love Halo can't you tell.

Maybe my beliefs will never come. If their isn't a Halo 3, Halo 2 will not end the story. Either a book or a movie will. But a movie is way off. The ppl. at bungie have been working LONG hours on Halo and Halo 2, they need a break after 8 yrs.

I hope that what have said helps ease some tension.
For real I don't care if there is a Halo 3 or not I just want to play videogames until I die.

One more thing Bungie can make atleast 7 games and not stretch the story. Trust me on this one; when Halo 3 is being made the animators will be in HEAVEN and being that hi, they will have limitless possibilities.
EX. Kelly being my favorite spartan; Kelly had one scene in First Strike where she was running and at her hi speed she was kicking up giant plate's from the floor when she was on Reach. Just that alone and with the covenant attacks would be heaven for an animator to create on a new console. (Read the book and be amazed)
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Post by: N.T on August 03, 2004, 02:01:00 PM
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Other than those few shortcomings, the game is just as superb as the xbox version. The textures are much better, the visuals are even better and the frame rate is also perfect with all the eyecandy. Oh and plus you can play 16 players online instead of 4 the hacked way.


The port was sub-par due to the unusually large system requirements to play this game in complete fluidity.  MS had even acknowledged this and presented a number of patches aimed at fixing just this with mixed success.  The fact that this game, published in 2001, requires 9800xt's and 6800's to run even at a solid 30fps is sub-par.  You don't have to take my word for it though.  Visit HardOCP.com for an extensive hardware evaluation of this game.  The poor port comes part in partial to its inability to properly utilize full-blown hardware to render it properly.  Notice that when the xbox game came out the reviews were 9's and 10's across the board.  The pc game did not recieve the same marks.  Closer to 6's-8's.  Was it the fact that the game came out years later and had unrealistic hype behind it?  Possibly.  Mainly it was the original lack of playability that had yet to be patched.   The game does not even feature AA support because Gearbox knew that nothing could handle it.  I'm also fairly possitive the port still utilizes the same pixelshader 1.1 that the xbox version used when it could have easily implemented 2.0.

Aside from all of that, the time frame that Gearbox got to work with to release the port was continuesly extended and when the game was infact released it took months (nearly a year) for an SDK to be released.  Doom 3's SDK is scheduled in roughly a week or two and the game was just released today.  

You are simply looking at the port from a gamers perspective. In which case it was, for the most part, equally as funif not more enjoyable than the xbox version.   I am looking at the game from a developers perspective, which was piss-poor through and through.
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Post by: rms2001 on August 03, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
QUOTE (telexen @ Jul 23 2004, 11:05 PM)
Look what Valve has done with Half Life ... that game sucked all along and there were how many clones of it?

If you think HL sucked, you got some issues man. Half-Life and its mods were / are the greatest games. Counter-Strike (PC version) is still the most popular and most played game on the internet, and has been for years now.

I thought HL was a great game, and so do a lot of people I know. I also though the games that followed HL were great. But you can’t deny the fact about CS, it still ranks above all in the most played game, that has to say some thing.
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Post by: DaveHShapiro on August 09, 2004, 10:07:00 AM
QUOTE (D3v0n @ Jul 23 2004, 10:53 PM)
I thought that Bungie had gone on the record somewhere saying that they were definetely NOT going to make a Halo 3.

Games are no differant then movies.. as long as the name will sell they will make sequels to it... look at resident evil
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Post by: apw100 on August 10, 2004, 09:12:00 AM
Well Bungie may have said that THEY werent making Halo3, but that doesnt mean that someone else wont....  Alot of game sequels arent developed by the original studio.
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Post by: Faithless_Raven on August 10, 2004, 11:35:00 PM
QUOTE (Inches @ Jul 24 2004, 04:07 AM)
I have really no idea. There are no indications of a halo 3 because halo 2 hasn't even come out yet. But if they do make a halo 3, it will be on xb2

If you

A. "have no idea"

and there are

B. "no indications"

then why are you so sure itll be xb2?

also there are indications like the obvious success of Halo and we all know Halo 2 is gonna kill everything else on the market so I am 100% sure it is safe to assume that there will not only be a Halo 3 but a Halo 4 as well. As to whether or not Halo 3 will be on xb2 or not I'd say yes. but unlike some people i have a bit of logic to back up my theory (cough) inches (cough). I say yes because of how long it will take to develop Halo 3 versus the expected life of the xbox. if xbox next or whatever it ends up being called comes out in the next 2 or 3 years then Halo 3 would be much better suited to xb2. since the game would have a much longer shelf life as a launch title than it would as a farewell to xbox.
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Post by: Shawn_ on August 11, 2004, 05:21:00 PM
I do not think there will be a Halo 3. If Bungie does not want to make it for story reasons they will not.

MS can just put "from the makers Of Halo"

and its going to sell.
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Post by: darth_jarret on August 11, 2004, 09:08:00 PM
QUOTE (Shawn_ @ Aug 11 2004, 06:24 PM)
I do not think there will be a Halo 3. If Bungie does not want to make it for story reasons they will not.

MS can just put "from the makers Of Halo"

and its going to sell.

all too true
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Post by: Rasker on August 22, 2004, 07:25:00 PM
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Post by: TheWraith357 on September 22, 2004, 08:36:00 AM
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Post by: t_skraggs on September 22, 2004, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE (TheWraith357 @ Sep 22 2004, 04:39 PM)
if there is going to be a halo3....i imagine it will be delayed until the year 2012.....in wich it wont matter becuz the goverment will have regulated file sharing and modding so much they will sell individual levels of halo3 on self destructing discs.....mark my words laugh.gif

I'd like to see Halo 0.  I'd like to get involved in the original battles between the Alliance and Covenant.  I'd like to know what happened prior to the Master Chief going to sleep in that cryo chamber, or whatever he crawled out of at the beginning of Halo.
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Post by: TheWraith357 on September 22, 2004, 11:01:00 AM
hey, ya , y didnt i think of that,   that would be great , to get kind of a history of the conflict, aweseome idea.
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Post by: pingrr on September 23, 2004, 06:50:00 PM
Is bungie planing on a Halo 3?  Wait until you play through Halo 2.  If it has an open ended ending like the original Halo than there is a good chance they already have plans for a Halo 3 for the next Xbox
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Post by: d_saum on September 25, 2004, 09:48:00 PM
Hey all,

Bungie is already working on Halo 3 and it is scheduled to be released at the same time as Xbox 2  or next or Xenon, whatever they are gonna call it.

  Dave

Correction: They are scheduling the release of HALO 3 for the same day as the release of the PS3...whenever that is.
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Post by: s e v e n on September 25, 2004, 11:13:00 PM
I think you should back that up with a link.
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Post by: esc1 on September 26, 2004, 12:47:00 AM
laugh.gif  I don't see them doing one for Halo.

You've gotta be kidding yourself if you don't think a third installment is gonna happen.

Halo will never die!!    cool.gif
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Post by: pingrr on September 26, 2004, 08:08:00 PM
Ok maybe bungie said there was no Halo 3.  They may just be saying that .  With as secrative as they have been about certain aspects of halo 2.  There is no reason to think that they wouldn't be just as secrative about halo 3 if not more.
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Post by: Rebel-Soul on September 30, 2004, 11:12:00 AM
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Post by: Exige_ on September 30, 2004, 11:16:00 AM
If you're actually into Halo and read almost everything possible about it (like me), then you should know that Bungie has already disclosed that they will not release a Halo 3. Disclosing information like that is NOT teh same as disclosing information about a game that's already been planned. They keep secrets of Halo 2 because they want to work up the crowd. The don't tell us that they won't ever release a Halo 3 becuase they want to work us up, but rather to just tell us straight-forward. I'm not sitting here, excited about Halo 3 now am I? Theorizing that they're keeping a secret about a Halo 3 release would make me excited if only common sense could have produced that theory. However, it's completely irrational, and therefore no one could possibly be excited about something non-existant. It is highly possible that Bungie could create a whole new, only-for-xbox game that could quite possibly be as popular as Halo. Just no Halo 3.
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Post by: orangerhino on October 02, 2004, 12:51:00 AM
QUOTE (Exige_ @ Sep 30 2004, 07:19 PM)
If you're actually into Halo and read almost everything possible about it (like me), then you should know that Bungie has already disclosed that they will not release a Halo 3. Disclosing information like that is NOT teh same as disclosing information about a game that's already been planned. They keep secrets of Halo 2 because they want to work up the crowd. The don't tell us that they won't ever release a Halo 3 becuase they want to work us up, but rather to just tell us straight-forward. I'm not sitting here, excited about Halo 3 now am I? Theorizing that they're keeping a secret about a Halo 3 release would make me excited if only common sense could have produced that theory. However, it's completely irrational, and therefore no one could possibly be excited about something non-existant. It is highly possible that Bungie could create a whole new, only-for-xbox game that could quite possibly be as popular as Halo. Just no Halo 3.

let's face it, you're excited...
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Post by: Jeffler on October 04, 2004, 07:13:00 AM
I dunno. I heard somewhere that Bungie won't do H3 if MS doesn't allow ith to be out on PS3. Honestly, If what I hear is true, M$ will scrap Bungie and make the most mediocre game ever. But Billy will keep Halo around for the cash.
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Post by: t_skraggs on October 04, 2004, 08:34:00 AM
QUOTE (Jeffler @ Oct 4 2004, 03:16 PM)
But Billy will keep Halo around for the cash.

I assume you are referring to Bill Gates?  You should brush up on your current events.  That's like saying Eisenhower is still the President of the USA.  (Bill Gates hasn't been the CEO of MS for many, many, many, many, many, many years.)

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Post by: Juancster on October 04, 2004, 02:56:00 PM
I think Halo 3 could be a possibility if there still was a demand for more after Halo 2. Offcourse Halo 2 looks amazing but only time will tell if it is actually the gem they wanted it to be. So I think that Halo 3 could happen, but for now im going to go with a no.
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Post by: IcEc0lD8 on October 17, 2004, 10:57:00 AM
i read in one of the egm magizines that there will be a halo 3 and it will be the launch title for xb2
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: manguy on October 17, 2004, 12:54:00 PM
Bungie confirmed that Halo 2 was the end of the seriers.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: Infamous_One on October 20, 2004, 02:21:00 AM
QUOTE (xbc-Rizzo @ Oct 20 2004, 07:37 AM)
def. going to be a Halo 3....don't ask how I would know, just think about it... unsure.gif


me too , im 100% that there will be HALO 3 , i bet my life to it.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: djambic on October 20, 2004, 09:55:00 AM
yes there will be a third game... and from the looks there may be more like 7 in all, unless the 3rd takes care of all if you know what i mean.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: pingrr on October 20, 2004, 01:09:00 PM
I did read on Bungie's forums that the story line has been written far past were halo 2 ends.  However they didn't say if this was for a possible film or a 3rd game.
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Post by: bucko on October 20, 2004, 01:20:00 PM
QUOTE (manguy @ Oct 17 2004, 07:57 PM)
Bungie confirmed that Halo 2 was the end of the seriers.

Link to your info please.
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Post by: madienmasher on October 20, 2004, 04:14:00 PM
QUOTE (Neglected @ Oct 20 2004, 10:08 PM)
hello i just beaten halo 2. there are 14 levels and yes there is going to be an halo 3. i rather not spoil the ending but if u realy want to no it u can reach me and [email protected] i will be happy to anwser questions

nice! thanks for give us your info so we can report you for downloading it
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Post by: bucko on October 21, 2004, 12:15:00 AM
QUOTE (madienmasher @ Oct 20 2004, 11:17 PM)
nice! thanks for give us your info so we can report you for downloading it

& that hes on aol, haha.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: halofreak007 on October 21, 2004, 03:24:00 PM
bungie said that they werent going to make a halo 3
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: Trisman on October 21, 2004, 04:23:00 PM
Kind of like there would be no more Family Guy.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: GameDTX on October 21, 2004, 07:37:00 PM
yeah ur right and i bet like 70% of the ppl here have halo2 on their xboxes...
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Post by: BlackObsidian on October 23, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
QUOTE (X2Gamer @ Jul 24 2004, 05:56 AM)
i don't think they should make halo 3. I think they should make something new and original because most sequels have a tough time of surpassing there predcessors.

If there's a Halo 3 then it'll entirely depend on the hardware available at the time, the system limitations of the hardware (for example the game may be so graphically advanced that the PS2 can't handle it - KOTOR anyone?) and the publisher and developer involved deciding on whether there's a large enough market for the game on the console.

For example if Halo 3 is announced and due for release around the same time that the Xbox 2 is released, the Developer/Publisher may decide that the Xbox 2 doesn't have enough sales to warrant releasing the game on that format.

Also on the point quoted, Halo 3 won't be a "predecessor", it'll be a continuation of an already existing and VERY strong Brand. It's a similar situation to  the Championship Manager Series, Hitman Series, Tomb Raider Series, Battlefield Series etc etc.

BTW guess what industry I work in... lol  biggrin.gif
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Post by: Skitals on October 24, 2004, 01:32:00 AM
There will be a halo3. I dont know that, but I know that. Ya know? It might not be for a long time (look at doom 3 for example), but it will come. I think halo3 will come about 6months after the launch of xbox2. If you ask me I always think the 3rd version of anything is the best (doom, quake, UT, etc).
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: monkeycrew on October 24, 2004, 09:49:00 AM
right, so you are all debating wheter Halo3 is going to be on the cards?

I can assure you there is a concept for it, and i can assure you that YOU WILL WANT TO BUY IT.

SPOILERS.... (dont read if you dont want to know about halo3)

It is set after Halo 2; on the ark; which is/ or is on earth.

All the Halo rings are primed and ready to blow!

The ark will detonate all the other Halo rings remotely (there are quite a few)

Cortana hologram girl is in the hands of the flood beast; who is questioning her, so at a guess the flood will return for H3.

There are covenant and humans working together, but you will have to finish H2 to understand it's more complicated than this, as the races are split.

Chief will arrive back on earth aboard a forerunner ship; Truth; clinging to the outside.  This ship carries Brutes and prophets of the Covenant who are determined to start The Great Journey, which involves activating the destruct sequence of all the Halos.

Halo4&5?  Possibly, as the it appears the main aim of Halo3 will be to stop the activation of the rings; there could be side plots, or dealing with problems after the covnenant who follow the path to the great journey.


OK, so there you go, a few things to think about, finish Halo2 and you will understand them in more detail, i didnt want to say too much!

Yes i have played/finished H2.
No I do not have a illegal copy of it on my xbox.
Yes i will buy the retail version so i can play over xboxLive.

Think everything you wanna know is there.


As for platform, obviously Xbox2 would be a good channel; possible as a launch title (MS would love that - imagine how many xbox2s would get sold on launch day...)  but the H2 engine is amazing and perfectly adequate of running a great sequel.

Personally i would say that 'cus of marketing / money, Halo2 will be Xbox2 only.

Whatever, i will have copy!


Notice :
NO HALO2 SPOILERS
NO SCREENSHOTS
NO DOWNLOAD LINKS
This post is Bungie Studios friendly.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: Slamm36 on October 24, 2004, 06:21:00 PM
i think that they will have halo 3 bundled withe the xbox 2 this way theyed sell like hot cakes
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: Heet on October 26, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
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Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: THEBATMAN on November 01, 2004, 06:11:00 PM
I definitly think there will be a halo 3 because just the pre bought copies (halo 2) alone beat halo 1
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: aer on November 02, 2004, 03:03:00 PM
Ive playd halo 2 and it´s a huge disappointment
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: aer on November 02, 2004, 03:05:00 PM
no i dont meen that
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: aer on November 02, 2004, 03:10:00 PM
In halo you need much skill doing fast pistol headshots and so ; but in halo 2 its moastly bodyshots so its easyer in the multi player game but mutch harder in the campain
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: Shadowcat on November 02, 2004, 05:43:00 PM
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Ive playd halo 2 and it´s a huge disappointment


Actually it is.. VERY repetitive.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: indian101 on November 04, 2004, 01:11:00 PM
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Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: ahoatam on November 04, 2004, 01:51:00 PM
Monkeycrew, I think you've got some facts wrong:

The ship MC is on is a forerunner ship, but NOT the Truth.  Truth is the name of the covenant prophet also on board the ship, who MC is pursuing.

There is limited evidence to support the claim that the ARK is EARTH, and that same evidence could also be said to point that the the ARK is the affore-mentioned Forerunner ship. I believe the latter is the case...

Cortana is NOT in the hands of the Flood beast.  She is in the Covenant computer system aboard the Holy City High Trinity, which happens to be infested with Flood.

That is all...
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: indian101 on November 05, 2004, 12:58:00 PM
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Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: Ronu on November 07, 2004, 12:19:00 PM
The ending is a huge dissapointment. And there will be a Halo 3, just beat the game and watch the movie. Why wouldn't Bungie want to make more money?
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: jason jx on November 07, 2004, 02:07:00 PM
i think there will be a halo3 but in many years to come due to the fact that bungie are already working on a project that is a game based on the movie dawn of the dead and its going 2 be run on a moddified halo engine.

and y is halo2 ending a dissapointment? dont tell me the ending but does it cahnge the story completely and is it a ending that can be continued?
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: karloz on November 07, 2004, 02:37:00 PM
without saying nothing about the ending all i can say is that it blatantly leaves you waiting for halo 3.

kinda like they did at the movie "Mission to Mars"
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: enderandrew on November 08, 2004, 11:23:00 PM
I will be shocked if Halo 3 is not an XBox 2 launch title.

That being said I think Halo is grossly overrated and I have no intentions of buying Halo 2.  Half Life and it's many iterations make for much better LAN games.  Console shooters are somewhat inferior in general, and Halo specifically gets really boring.  Vehicles are over-powers in multiplayer, and the campaign is overtly repetetive.

Half-Life 2 will own Halo 2 all day long.  And Half-Life 2 will have a number of strong mods to increase gameplay because it was built and designed around a SDK and a heavily moddable engine.  Playing Halo today is no different than Halo at launch.  Halo 2 doesn't even have all the features that were promised in the initial launch of Halo.

Why does everyone worship this game?  I assume it's largely a younger crowd who doesn't have a good gaming rig and was first really broken into the FPS scene with Halo.

I'm not even a big fan of the FPS scene, but I've been playing them all since Wolfenstein on my 286.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: pingrr on November 09, 2004, 09:24:00 AM
I think halo 2 is very fun online.  It has nothing to with not being able to aford a nice PC.  I have a top of the line Alienware PC that is about 6 months old so there almost no limitations with the games and resolutions  I can use.   I have a nice 5.1 suround and a 20" screen on my PC.  In my mind it is a very nice gaming rig.

As for playing somthing like Haloo 2 online.  I have a 73" widscren TV with a very high end suround system.  I prefer playing on the bigscreen sitting back with my feet up in the recliner.  This is a much more comfortable way to play.  The suround system on the PC can't even come close to what the home stereo can do.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: itsmee129 on November 09, 2004, 01:40:00 PM
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Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: crewdude55 on November 09, 2004, 05:58:00 PM
Pingrr,

Since money doesn't appear to be a huge object for you, I highly suggest you give me some.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: pingrr on November 09, 2004, 06:14:00 PM
I looked into the front projection systems but the way the room is layed out a rear projection system was definatly the way to go.   It is also nice to have the computer in a different room so you can watch movies while somone else uses the computer.

I think that Halo 3 is already in the works and has been for quite some time.  Yes Bungie denies this but I don;t think they would want to publicly talk about this because it could hurt Halo 2 sales.
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Post by: pingrr on November 09, 2004, 08:11:00 PM
Those are what I was talking about when I said front projection systems.  They are nice but shadows from people walking around could be cause issues along with light in the room.  The room is a relativly brite room in the day.  DLP projectors usualy need to have a darker room than a bigscreen TV.  I looked into DLP's with some very high lumens ratings but they were still afected by lite more than the other TV's.

Those systems are very nice but just not a good fit for this room.  I'll try and take a picture and it should make more sence why I couldn't fit that big of a TV in this room.
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Post by: BloodAngels on November 12, 2004, 06:25:00 PM
muhaha.gif  first off it ends in a good spot for the perfect sequel. also i love the music laugh.gif. And what was with cortana and the flood master????? was she like possesed? and last but not least how were the flood made were they like made in a lab on accident by the forerunners or did they just show up from another galaxy? ph34r.gif
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: crewdude55 on November 12, 2004, 08:45:00 PM
have u seen the ending?

have u?

yes, there will be a halo 3...
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: apw100 on November 13, 2004, 03:52:00 PM
Why is this thread still going?  Bungie has already admitted that Halo3 is in development for XBOX Next.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: itsmee129 on November 14, 2004, 11:25:00 AM
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Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: basso4735 on November 14, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
QUOTE (itsmee129 @ Nov 14 2004, 02:28 PM)
muhaha.gif  fart sex  muhaha.gif   pop.gif   beerchug.gif

WTF??!?!!?!!?
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Post by: enderandrew on November 14, 2004, 06:16:00 PM
The last article I read said that Bungie wants to move on to a WWII game and won't talk about when and if Halo 3 might be developed.
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Post by: Vizjerei on November 16, 2004, 06:28:00 PM
Look up the info lazies.

http://www.gamespot....ws_6110134.html

-courtesy of gamespot-
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Post by: pingrr on November 16, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
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Also keep in mind that last October, MS's Steve Ballmer said that Bungie was already "working on Halo 2 and Halo 3."


That is a quote from the link.
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Post by: Punkguitar127 on November 20, 2004, 10:40:00 AM
Well i think there will be another Halo and according to my friends he did some math and firgured out there are 9 Halos and so 9 halo games.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: chittnp on November 20, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
I had Read somewhere that bungie had to cut out almost half of Halo 2 to have it done by the release date, so in theory, halo 3 is half done (!), and with all the hype surrounding halo2 and its sales numbers, I would garuntee bungie wont stop milking this cash cow. both the walmart and K-mart near me are back ordered on both xbox's and copies of halo 2, so I expect  that a Halo 3 release that  corresponds to the Xenon, is what we'll get.

I've also read the books and like them alot, I think that the possbility of a prequel is definately something that should be done, the back story is one of the things that makes the game so compelling...and the master chief makes a great hero...im not too crazy about the arbiter though. Anyway, as long as the gameplay is still fun, and they continue to make subtle changes to the game, Ill still buy them.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: crewdude55 on November 21, 2004, 08:08:00 AM
If half-life 2 sells for 5 years, halo 3 will sell for 10... lol
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: fever on November 21, 2004, 12:36:00 PM
QUOTE (nas6034 @ Jul 24 2004, 04:04 AM)
do u think that they might be a halo 3 and if so do u think it would be mostly likely be for xb2

am sure it wont come out, i watched a live interview with a developer and he said they done it all with halo2 but now they wanna try something new.....but we cant say what. go check the vids on gamespot its on there
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Post by: _sparhawk_ on November 22, 2004, 12:28:00 AM
although the date that i saw failed to specify a year, so that leaves it open to alot of change
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Post by: crewdude55 on November 22, 2004, 12:04:00 PM
what date????
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: enderandrew on November 22, 2004, 07:02:00 PM
I'd like to see any article where a member of BUNGIE has openly said that Halo 3 has been in development.

Every single interview with them I've seen or read clearly states they are getting away from Halo.

I'd also like to see someone point to one credible source with proof that Halo 3 is half-way done.  Because it doesn't exist.  Halo 3 is in pre-production if anything.

Seriously, there are some people here smoking some crack.

And Halo 3 will not sell for 10 years.  No video game will sell new copies for 10 years, because technology changes so fast.  Either way, Halo doesn't have a released SDK or mod support.  Games with mod support last longer because of the mod scene.  If two equal games have that difference, mod support, and no mod support, the game with mod support will last longer, and sell more copies.

Half Life 2 not only includes a better engine, more weapons, a better storyline, better graphics, better physics, and more to do (the gravity gun presents so many interesting opportunities), but it also includes an incredible mod scene already built in.

Halo 2 has only one strength over Half Life 2, and that is the sound/score.
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Post by: crewdude55 on November 22, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
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Post by: enderandrew on November 22, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
I'm going to buy HL2 on Steam as soon as I build my next Athlon-64 gaming rig.
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Post by: RideBurton164 on November 27, 2004, 01:06:00 PM
hey enderandrew...ill agree with you that no one from bungie has said anything about halo 3 being in developement...HOWEVER...

http://www.MS.com/pr...fice-launch.asp

"We'll show you a capability inside the Office System today that delivers on what we call Information Rights Management. We're working on the next version -- I hate to tell you this confidentially but I'll have to swear you to secrecy now -- we're working on the next version of Xbox right now and we're working on Halo 2 and Halo 3, the two newest versions of the game." - Remarks by Steve Ballmer, CEO, MS Corporation, MS Office System Launch, Orlando, Florida, October 21, 2003....

he MIGHT? know what hes talking about?
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: WildMonkeys on November 28, 2004, 04:44:00 PM
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Post by: John,Spartan-117 on November 30, 2004, 06:00:00 PM
most of the people who were gonna buy HALO 2 already did.  Its not like the first one were it took a while for how good it is to get around.  Halo 3's probaly gonna be launched with xbox 2 and xbox 2 is rumored for a late 2005 launch.
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Post by: enderandrew on November 30, 2004, 11:23:00 PM
They had another 5 gigs of unused space on the DVD.  They only used 4 gigs.  They could fit more in Halo 2 if they wanted.

There isn't much story, and there is plenty of room on the disc.

I believe there will be a Halo 3.  However, they easily could have added to Halo 2 if they wanted.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: anthonydata on December 01, 2004, 05:13:00 PM
well they had to cut the game in half so halo 3 would still be a good size  not just 5 levels or sumthin
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Post by: enderandrew on December 01, 2004, 07:05:00 PM
Nope.

I don't buy it.  That's poor game design.  Neither Halo nor Halo 2 have a lot of plot.  There is certainly room for more in Halo 2, and in Halo 3.

Everyone keeps saying the story HAD to be cut in half.  Bull shit.  You can tell one full story in Halo 2, and one full story in Halo 3.  If that story ends the franchise, then either tell another story, or move on to another franchise.  Don't short change your product simply to make more money.

Good level design is good level design.  The plot doesn't dicate that you can only have X number of levels.  If the battles are good, they're good.  Metroid Prime 2 has no real plot to speak of, but they have plenty of FUN levels.

The game could have been longer.  It could have had more story.  But the fact is this is the game that Bungie wanted to put out.  They designed it this way, and this is what you paid $50 for.

I think certain people are so die-hard in their Bungie worship that they can't approach, let alone grasp the concept that they may have been short-changed.

Then again, if you're content to pay $50 for Halo on Live, then go ahead.  If you're happy, I won't argue.  That's your right as a consumer to decide where to spend your money.  Hell, they sell a $10,000 martini in New York.  If you think it's worth 10 grand, then buy it.

My opinion is that Halo is overrated, and Halo 2 is certainly not the second coming of Christ.

For many people it seems that Halo was their first LAN game.  They discovered good multiplayer gaming, and associated that fun with Halo, and not specifically with LAN gaming in general.  I'll take Counter Strike Source over Halo 2 any day of the week.

I urge people to open up and try other good LAN games.
Title: Halo3 ? Or Not
Post by: anthonydata on December 02, 2004, 06:54:00 PM
i dont even have the game im just sayin what i heard i just got the first halo on this saturday
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Post by: xionanx on December 03, 2004, 03:55:00 AM
I have played and beat both Halo and Halo 2.. I do not feel "short changed".  I feel ripped off when I play a game that cost $49 for less then 6 hours, so far Halo 2 has provided 100+ hours of gameplay with many more to come.  Very few games I'be bought can I say that about.. most I only get about 20~26 hours out of then return them.

As far as the ending goes, I think it would be OBVIOUS to ANYONE with HALF a BRAIN that THERE WILL BE a HALO 3.

Regardless of whether Bungie claims to be working on it or not, no one leaves a story completely wide open for sequels like that, and then doesn't make a sequel.  Not to mention potential spinoff's...

Halo 3 = Reality
Halo 4 = Who Knows?
Halo spinoffs = Possibility

Now.. comparing Half Life 2 to Halo 2 is like comparing a Ford Mustang to a Saleen Mustang  Yeah, they both are the same car, yeah they both go fast, but one so far outshines the other in shear speed and style that the comparison is laughable..

Half Life 2 is the Saleen..  

Of course to the guy who thinks Counter Strike (source) is better then Halo 2 multiplayer.. your on crack.