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Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: timj010 on December 03, 2005, 05:05:00 AM
Please give me an acurate anwser on this question. Is there a possibility to use the xbox360 to record tv programs onto it's HD. Can you maybe put an external tv tuner into it's usb port and then have somekind of program able to record it. Maybe something similar like the myth tv I know there aren't any homebrew aplications available at this time but doesn't the xbox360's MCE have native support?

Thx a lot.
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: noryn on December 03, 2005, 05:13:00 AM
Just killing time before I go to Target and sorry I cannot give you anything definate.  I dont think so.  This function would have probably been advertised.  I am sure in the future this will probably be possible through both homebrew and MS.

Right now though the harddrive is only 20 gigs.  I think 13 gigs after system information is on it.  That isnt counting demos or music.  Doesnt the ipod with video have 30 and 60 gig hard drives?  So storage at the moment is a big factor although it seems as if the MS hard drive is just a notebook hard drive with a special casing.  The ipod videos should be quite a bit smaller in size as well.
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: Arius on December 03, 2005, 05:14:00 AM
its via Windows XP Media Centre Endition and the Media centre Extender and what not I beleive.

You need XP:MCE and a compatable Tv Tuner.
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: noryn on December 03, 2005, 05:39:00 AM
Yeah you can send video and music to your 360 by a pc with media edition but you cant actually save TV shows on the xbox hard drive can you?
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: Arius on December 03, 2005, 05:48:00 AM
I dont know how it works as I dont have a compatable Tv card in my MCE system.

However any kind of recording of Tv will be done via that system
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: babanoosh on December 03, 2005, 08:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Arius @ Dec 3 2005, 05:45 AM) *

its via Windows XP Media Centre Endition and the Media centre Extender and what not I beleive.

You need XP:MCE and a compatable Tv Tuner.



I'm pretty sure the ATI chipset on the mainboard (of the 360) has a TV encoder/decoder at least, according to AnandTech's exposure of the internals. Hopefully something we might see "accessible" in the future. If the 360 only ends up being an extender, that'll be lame. The xbox already handles that beautifully. But I'm very optimistic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by babanoosh: Dec 3 2005, 04:04 PM
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on December 03, 2005, 08:11:00 AM
if anything i think MS will release a USB2.0 tuner and require xboxlive gold for like a tvguide type program, which would be awsome
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: babanoosh on December 03, 2005, 08:19:00 AM
QUOTE(Ballz2TheWallz @ Dec 3 2005, 08:42 AM) *

if anything i think MS will release a USB2.0 tuner and require xboxlive gold for like a tvguide type program, which would be awsome



Why a 2.0 tuner if there's a mpeg2 encoder/decoder on the mboard? It (like digital) is just a matter of enabling it via software (and interface for the latter).

Ther is an extension to XBMC which allows for tv gude (xml-tv i think). But yeah, in order to be "supa sweet" it'd have to be streamlined with some onboard decoding.

This post has been edited by babanoosh: Dec 3 2005, 04:21 PM
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: timj010 on December 04, 2005, 10:40:00 AM
Thanks for all the replies guys. Look like I'm gonna wait until (if) they crack the xbox360 before I buy it. If somebody has a xbox360 at home and a MC compatible USB tv tuner can you please plug it in and tell me if anything happens (my last hope  biggrin.gif )
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: kirbypuckett on December 04, 2005, 11:18:00 AM
You cannot record as of now.
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: eversio11 on December 04, 2005, 11:56:00 AM
If you can spare $20 for a TV Tuner, and have a lot of free space on your HD, you can use your PC to record television. Just look up FreeVo on google.

This post has been edited by eversio11: Dec 4 2005, 07:57 PM
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: akodoreign on December 04, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
You know MCE is not hard to get and works pretty well. I know my college will sell it to students for like 19 bucks. (covers the cost of duplication they claim). And If you can scrounge about 80 bucks for a tuner for your pc you will be a happy person.

Btw Experementing with http://www.moremce.com/plugin_detail.php?p...cc07e8e9fee7ddc

can get them to come up but then it crashes. Someone in another post stated that it just needs to be optimized for extender.

So realy If you have MCE pc and 360 you can do almost everything you can with a modded xbox. I still love my modded xbox 1 but the 360 has made me pretty happy.

Only use a hauppauge card. they are the most compatable with MCE. ATI pro does not even work with MCE you have to get a ATI elite.

This post has been edited by akodoreign: Dec 4 2005, 08:17 PM
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: timj010 on December 05, 2005, 04:20:00 AM
Well if the xbox360 doesn't record tv then i'll probably install mythTV on my old pc. But can somebody explain me this:

With Xbox 360, you can:

Windows Media Center
   

Connect to a computer running Windows Media Center and

    * Listen to your music collection
    * View pictures
    * Watch live TV
    * Pause and replay live TV
    * Record TV shows then watch them later
    * Watch Videos
    * Download and watch movies
    * Buy music online
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: luther349 on December 05, 2005, 06:02:00 AM
yes it can do all that but your pc is doing all the work the 360 is just displaying it. think of it like using a second monoter and displaying the meda realted stuff on that. same thing.

This post has been edited by luther349: Dec 5 2005, 02:03 PM
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: Xombe on December 05, 2005, 06:34:00 AM
QUOTE(luther349 @ Dec 5 2005, 09:33 PM) View Post

yes it can do all that but your pc is doing all the work the 360 is just displaying it. think of it like using a second monoter and displaying the meda realted stuff on that. same thing.

Bingo.

Just like how all the guys saying "I've saved thousands of pictures to my HDD" are confusing "saving" with "streaming" (unless you count "saving" a pic as a theme background, which is pretty much missing the point).
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: Beelzabub on December 05, 2005, 09:44:00 AM
QUOTE(timj010 @ Dec 3 2005, 12:36 PM) View Post

Please give me an acurate anwser on this question. Is there a possibility to use the xbox360 to record tv programs onto it's HD. Can you maybe put an external tv tuner into it's usb port and then have somekind of program able to record it. Maybe something similar like the myth tv I know there aren't any homebrew aplications available at this time but doesn't the xbox360's MCE have native support?

Thx a lot.


My setup consist of a DVICO Fusion HDTV 5 card and a Hauppauge 150MCE card and they both work great in media center I'm able to pause/record/watch live tv on the 360 with no problems at all and that includes watching HDTV and recording it... like many people stated 360 and MCE work very well as long as you have the right stuff on your pc.
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: jeeb75 on December 05, 2005, 09:34:00 PM
QUOTE(Beelzabub @ Dec 5 2005, 05:51 PM) *

My setup consist of a DVICO Fusion HDTV 5 card and a Hauppauge 150MCE card and they both work great in media center I'm able to pause/record/watch live tv on the 360 with no problems at all and that includes watching HDTV and recording it... like many people stated 360 and MCE work very well as long as you have the right stuff on your pc.


I have the same setup with the DVICO Fusion HDTV Lite and Hauppauge 150MCE.  I dont have the xbox360 yet but i am glad to hear you can watch HDTV on the 360.  I was wondering if you are able to play divx files from the 360 because I am able to watch them in MCE 2005 on my PC using the K-Lite mega codec pack.
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: jfoster on December 06, 2005, 09:40:00 AM
QUOTE(Beelzabub @ Dec 5 2005, 11:51 AM) View Post

My setup consist of a DVICO Fusion HDTV 5 card and a Hauppauge 150MCE card and they both work great in media center I'm able to pause/record/watch live tv on the 360 with no problems at all and that includes watching HDTV and recording it... like many people stated 360 and MCE work very well as long as you have the right stuff on your pc.


I thought that XP MCE didnt directly support that DVICO card in HD?  Are you using the DVICO for OTA HD, and the Hauppauge for analog cable?

Thanks
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: Beelzabub on December 06, 2005, 10:41:00 AM
QUOTE(jfoster @ Dec 6 2005, 05:47 PM) View Post

I thought that XP MCE didnt directly support that DVICO card in HD?  Are you using the DVICO for OTA HD, and the Hauppauge for analog cable?

Thanks


It doesnt support it alone you have have to have a hardware encoder based card such as the Hauppauge and yeah I'm using it for OTA HD and the PVR-150 has my cable hooked up to it
Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: jfoster on December 07, 2005, 05:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Beelzabub @ Dec 6 2005, 12:48 PM) *

It doesnt support it alone you have have to have a hardware encoder based card such as the Hauppauge and yeah I'm using it for OTA HD and the PVR-150 has my cable hooked up to it


Yeah, I understand aboutt he hardware - My MCE machine has the 150, but I have been holding off picking an OTA HD tuner card because I thought MCE didnt support them in time shifting/recording and such.

BTW - OT, but Recently, I have been having trouble recording shows on Time Warner cable (HBO, SHOWTIME...), seems they turned on broadcast flags that prevent me from doing so. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Title: Using Xbox360 To Record Tv Programs
Post by: Beelzabub on December 07, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
QUOTE(jfoster @ Dec 7 2005, 01:18 PM) View Post

Yeah, I understand aboutt he hardware - My MCE machine has the 150, but I have been holding off picking an OTA HD tuner card because I thought MCE didnt support them in time shifting/recording and such.

BTW - OT, but Recently, I have been having trouble recording shows on Time Warner cable (HBO, SHOWTIME...), seems they turned on broadcast flags that prevent me from doing so. sad.gif


You would be very happy with the DVICO Fusion HDTV 5 works very well and there drivers are now MCE certified I pause hdtv and record with no stuttering or problems biggrin.gif I use the Zenith ZHDTV1 works very good and only $19.99 @ http://www.buy.com/p...1/90113670.html I am near by all my towers though I'm in NYC so Im not sure how well that indoor would work in a place where the towers are not as close