Post by: Klatu on January 28, 2004, 12:22:00 PM
2 meg bios with usb flashing and easy ass solderless install... how could ya go wrong?
Post by: nleahcim on January 28, 2004, 01:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 28 2004, 10:22 PM) |
| i like the xbit out of all the choices 2 meg bios with usb flashing and easy ass solderless install... how could ya go wrong? |
But why would you even need a modchip with a 2mb bios?
Post by: Klatu on January 28, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (nleahcim @ Jan 28 2004, 04:25 PM) | ||
But why would you even need a modchip with a 2mb bios? |
why not?
Post by: Reaper527 on January 28, 2004, 01:33:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 28 2004, 11:32 PM) | ||||
why not? |
because all bios's are 256k or 512k and no one needs more then 2 bios's
Post by: nleahcim on January 28, 2004, 01:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 28 2004, 11:32 PM) | ||||
why not? |
Because it costs like $20 extra.
Post by: Klatu on January 28, 2004, 01:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (nleahcim @ Jan 28 2004, 04:39 PM) | ||||||
Because it costs like $20 extra. |
X2.3B Lite PLUS $55.99
OzXodus Xenium $56.00
XBIT $56.00
Post by: Trevante on January 28, 2004, 02:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 28 2004, 11:41 PM) | ||||||||
X2.3B Lite PLUS $55.99 OzXodus Xenium $56.00 XBIT $56.00 |
he said lite, not lite plus. the lite is 35 dollars
| QUOTE |
| it's there if you ever need it. why have 1000 billion dollars when 100 billion will get you by the rest of your life? more is always better |
actually, it's 1 trillion, not 1000 billion. The point tho, is that why have all that extra stuff when you won't even have the opportunity to use all of it? I seriously doubt that one person could need or use 1 trillion dollars, just as a person probably wouldn't need or use more than 2 bioses. Maybe three at the most, but then he could just get a pro if he needed to.
Post by: thewickedjester on January 28, 2004, 02:25:00 PM
a. one you like for whatever reason
b. whichever one does what you need but is still the cheapest
Post by: Trevante on January 28, 2004, 02:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 29 2004, 12:16 AM) |
| if he was to get the 2.3b lite with the solderless features like the xbit he would be spending the same amount. and he wouldn't have usb bios updating and have half the amount of bios space.. you get more for what you pay for when going with xbit why are you clowns dogging on a chip with an over abundance of memory that sells for the same price as chips with half the memory and less features  i think ya'll just like to sackride xecutor for some reason... |
well he obviously doesn't want a solderless chip if he wants the lite and not the lite plus. We all know that soldered connections are better....
maybe he doesn't care about bios updating either. besides that, all he has to do is flash one bank w/ a hacked bios, and leave cromwell on the other, and he can always switch banks if he has a bad flash on the other bank. besides that, no confusing dipswitches on the Xecuter 2.3b lite.
i'm not dogging the chip, i'm just saying that it's kind of an overkill.. 2mb of memory? for what? that's 8 different bioses you can use, but is one really gonna use all that? Now if it was the same price as the X 2.3 lite, then i would agree with you. But seeing as how the xbit is more expensive than the 2.3 lite, i wouldn't recommend it unless he needed those features.
anyways, to the thread starter, i think a xenium would probably be better. It doesn't have any sort of programmer, but u don't need to worry bout that. If u don't get the xenium, get the xbit. IF not, wait for either, wait for the Xecuter 3.
So because one likes Xecuter chips, they're sackriding? How bout you not flame people for their preferences.
Post by: nleahcim on January 28, 2004, 04:04:00 PM
| QUOTE (thewickedjester @ Jan 29 2004, 12:25 AM) |
| i have to agree with klatu, i am a dedicated xecutor fan, but the xbit deffinaltely has its possitive sides. but why does it matter, almost all modchips do the same things, if one has specific features, they will be listed on the xbox scene modchip comparison table, just pick either a. one you like for whatever reason b. whichever one does what you need but is still the cheapest |
Exactly - to me it seems all modchips do the exact same thing. I'd never touch a solderless modchip btw - I'm no pussy. Seriously is there ANY reason for me to get a Xenium or some other gen. 4 chip? I don't see the need for more than one bios - and the xecuter 2.3b lite can already hold 2...
Post by: lebriznon on January 28, 2004, 04:08:00 PM
if all you're doing is personal xbox modding for your own use, then get whatevers cheapest. chances are, you'll never touch the chip or open the xbox again. so get whatever is easier for you to find and cheaper. the end result is still the same no matter what chip you choose.
Post by: Trevante on January 28, 2004, 04:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 29 2004, 01:24 AM) |
look genius  i wasn't flaming anyone, i was the one who was flamed for bringing up the xbit. you can have it wired in if you want, you don't have to keep it wireless. and it's the same price as the xenium. and dip switches are confusing? riiiightyou just like to follow me in threads, flame on me, then go off about how you are an xbox genius cuz you have 800 posts and call everyone a noob even though you registered a month ago. get a life pal. just cuz you post 10 times in 1 thread jumping someone's ass over and over doesn't make you intelligent. you must've had about 10 typos and that was after you edited your post so stop trying to make yourself look better by jumping on other people's cases |
no one flamed you. We gave logical reasons as to why he shouldn't spend the xtra 20 dollars for stuff that isn't needed. But if one likes Xecuter, he's a sackrider according to you. That's flaming.
And yes you can have it wired, but why pay extra for the included solderless parts when he's gonna be soldering?
i do not follow you into threads. i do not flame you (and if I do, find a post where i do). I do not claim to be a genius. You need to drop this old bullshit. You acted immature in that thread and started calling me a newbie based on my registration date (which you couldn't even get right). I have been registered for more than a month. Look at the date i registered. I registered on December the 7th. Today is the 28th of January. That's been 3 months and 21 days. And look at your registration date. You've haven't been here a month. And you're talking about my regsitration date?
I don't know what you're talking about in the last part....
Post by: Trevante on January 28, 2004, 04:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (nleahcim @ Jan 29 2004, 02:04 AM) | ||
Exactly - to me it seems all modchips do the exact same thing. I'd never touch a solderless modchip btw - I'm no pussy. Seriously is there ANY reason for me to get a Xenium or some other gen. 4 chip? I don't see the need for more than one bios - and the xecuter 2.3b lite can already hold 2... |
just get the X2.3b lite and you'll be set...
Post by: itsame on January 28, 2004, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: nleahcim on January 28, 2004, 04:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (Trevante @ Jan 29 2004, 02:16 AM) | ||
no one flamed you. We gave logical reasons as to why he shouldn't spend the xtra 20 dollars for stuff that isn't needed. But if one likes Xecuter, he's a sackrider according to you. That's flaming. And yes you can have it wired, but why pay extra for the included solderless parts when he's gonna be soldering? i do not follow you into threads. i do not flame you (and if I do, find a post where i do). I do not claim to be a genius. You need to drop this old bullshit. You acted immature in that thread and started calling me a newbie based on my registration date (which you couldn't even get right). I have been registered for more than a month. Look at the date i registered. I registered on December the 7th. Today is the 28th of January. That's been 3 months and 21 days. And look at your registration date. You've haven't been here a month. And you're talking about my regsitration date? I don't know what you're talking about in the last part.... |
I don't want to get into the whole who's flaming bull - but am I missing something - or is that an application of the new math? 12/7 and 1/28... Sounds more like 1 month 21 days to me...
Post by: Klatu on January 28, 2004, 04:57:00 PM
Post by: Trevante on January 28, 2004, 05:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 29 2004, 02:40 AM) | ||
read the quote |
so wait, according to you, saving money by not paying for things you don't need is sackriding? Tell me how that makes any sense.
And what chips are half the cost of the X2.3 Lite? the X2.3 lite is 35 dollars. The cheapest chips are 25 dollars, and are also crappy chips. It would be better to spend the extra 10 dollars and get a chip that is more versatile and will most likely last you longer. Sure he could do a TSOP, but he want to play on Xbox Live....
nleahcim has already said he doesn't want a solderless chip. Why do u keep mentioning the x2.3 lite plus? And yes it has more features, but he doesn't need or want them if they're gonna cost 20 dollars extra..
I didn't say i was a genius, you called me a newbie, and i said "so i supposed you're an xbox genious right?"
You got me on the dates part, i pressed the wrong button on the keyboard... but i've still been here longer, not that it means anything...
I'll stop annoying you when you get the maturity not to be annoyed by them... what did i say that was so annoying that you had to bring up this old bullshit again? I simply stated why it wasn't logical for the thread starter to spend extra money on an Xbit and now i'm annoying you?
Post by: Trevante on January 28, 2004, 05:15:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Hi - can someone tell me why you would spend the extra money on a Xenium? |
he wanted a reason first....
Post by: Trevante on January 28, 2004, 05:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 29 2004, 03:21 AM) | ||||
and i gave a reason why he should spend extra $$ on xbit you call me immature then you keep trying to get the last word  |
yes, but then then he gave you a reason why he shouldn't pay extra money for an xbit when he doesn't need all it's features. Why pay extra money for stuff he doesn't need?
i called you immature because you were saying stupid things like "blah blah blah whatever", or the ever famous internet diss "get a life". that was immature. And another immature thing is starting an arguement just so u can call me immature for arguing with you. I'm not trying to get the last word, i'm simple saying why you were wrong.
Post by: nleahcim on January 28, 2004, 05:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (Klatu @ Jan 29 2004, 03:10 AM) |
| if he mentioned the xenium he was ready to spend the extra cash for quality |
actually I ordered a Xecuter 2.3b lite from modchipman after they told me that they would be shipping early this week. I just got an e-mail from them again today and they said that they don't expect to get them in any time soon and that I can "upgrade" to a more expensive chip - the Xenium - for $18. I just wanted to know if there was any reason to spend the extra cash. I think I'll just ask for a refund and find someplace that has them in stock.
Post by: Trevante on January 28, 2004, 05:33:00 PM
peace i'm out.
we totally ignored nleahcim....
Post by: el_diablo on January 28, 2004, 06:52:00 PM
| QUOTE (Trevante @ Jan 29 2004, 12:00 AM) |
| actually, it's 1 trillion, not 1000 billion. |
a billion is a million millions and a trilion is a billion billions
so 1000 billions correct to say
-------million = 1,000,000
-------billlion = 1,000,000,000,000
1000 billion = 1,000,000,000,000,000
-------trillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Post by: Morglum on January 28, 2004, 09:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (Trevante @ Jan 29 2004, 02:16 AM) |
| Look at the date i registered. I registered on December the 7th. Today is the 28th of January. That's been 3 months and 21 days. |
Dont go bad mouthing other peoples intelligence when you clearly cant even count
And Klatu is right about you Trevante, ive seen some of your other posts, you're a complete arrogant dick who tends to speak in a condesending manner to others 
nleahcim, you'd be better off getting the Xenium, simple fact is there are no ugly external switches, everything to do with control of the chip is done by its own built in interface using your controller.
You can back up the EEPROM to the chip, so you dont really ever need to worry if you hose it, you can always restore a good copy off the Xenium. You cant do this with an Xecuter2 or the XBIT.
Xenium can have upto 4 BIOSes on it, and you dont need to waste a bank for a linux BIOS should you ever want linux, the Xenium has a built in linux BIOS which doesnt take up one of the spaces for the other 4 BIOSes, so in a way the Xenium has 5 BIOSes, 4 of which you can add and customise yourself. Xecuter2 you can only have 2 BIOSes total.
You can ALWAYS recover your Xenium if you have a bad flash of the BIOS and you wont need to ever remove the chip to do a hot swap, or ever need to buy a programmer. With the Xecuter if you have a bad BIOS flash then you're screwed unless you can do a hot swap with someone else, or you want to pay an extra $20 + shipping.
Theres more but i think thats pretty much the basics of why the Xenium would be better than the Xecuter2
And if you dont want the Xenium then get the XBIT, it has plenty of room for extra BIOSes so you never need to worry about that. While it may come with some ugly external switches (personally i think all external switches are ugly), it also comes with its own built in USB programmer so if you have a bad flash there is nothing extra to buy, you just plug it upto your windows pc and reflash it yourself. But thats also the downside, at this moment its only windows, so if you have a mac then you get shafted. Also you cannot backup or restore your EEPROM using the XBIT
Basically get the Xenium, then the XBIT. The Xecuter2 should be the very last chip out of those 3 that you considder.
Post by: lebriznon on January 29, 2004, 08:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (el_diablo @ Jan 28 2004, 08:52 PM) | ||
a billion is a million millions and a trilion is a billion billions so 1000 billions correct to say -------million = 1,000,000 -------billlion = 1,000,000,000,000 1000 billion = 1,000,000,000,000,000 -------trillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 |
anybody else notice something wrong???
dude where did u go to school? a million is one thousand thousands, a billion is a thousand millions, and a trillion is a thousand billions.
milllion = 1000 000
billion= 1000 000 000
trillion= 1000 000 000 000
HAHAHAHAHHAAHA.........oh man.....got my laughs for the day.....counting is not THAT hard.....
Post by: Trevante on January 29, 2004, 09:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (nleahcim @ Jan 30 2004, 12:53 AM) | ||||
Wait - when do you mess with the eeprom? Isn't the eeprom the thing that holds the unique number that XBox Live blocks? Does it hold some other data as well? And why exactly do you need multiple bioses anyways? What's the difference between them? You say there's a Linux BIOS - why do you need a seperate Linux BIOS? I mean I don't have a seperate BIOS for Linux on my computer... I actually ended up getting a Xenium - but I'm modchipping a friend's xbox in a couple days (it shall be my third victim) and I'd like to make a good choice in choosing his chip. Thanks! |
the eeprom holds various data (like what region your xbox is, what video it outputs (pal or ntsc), what your HDD password is, and other stuff like that). The xenium can backup your eeprom to the chip so that if it ever gets erased, you can restore it.
multiple bioses are simply so that
1. you have a backup bios to rely on if for some reason one of your other bioses get erased or corrupt.
2. Sometimes using a different bios helps solve various problems (like games freezing), so it's nice to be able to just switch the bios instead of having to reflash to see if the bios would fix your problem
3. so you have something to fill up your xbit with
As far as the linux bios (cromwell), that is used to either flash your chip via CD (for chips w/o external flashers) or install linux.
Post by: Morglum on January 29, 2004, 10:00:00 PM
You can find all you want to really know about it by clicking HERE.
I'd suggest you get your friend a Xenium too.
Post by: Morglum on January 29, 2004, 10:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (lebriznon @ Jan 30 2004, 06:28 AM) |
| a million is one thousand thousands, a billion is a thousand millions, and a trillion is a thousand billions. |
Actually "billion" is only an american term for 1000 million, the true name for 1000 million is "milliard" though "thousand million" is correct too. But its just far easier to say billion in this day and age, as no one really cares, its all the same thing. Plus the poor old americans would feel dumb for not knowing any better
But i must agree with you, i had a little laugh at his post
| QUOTE |
| a billion is a million millions and a trilion is a billion billions so 1000 billions correct to say -------million = 1,000,000 -------billlion = 1,000,000,000,000 1000 billion = 1,000,000,000,000,000 -------trillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 |
But he was in a sence right, as once upon a time a "billion" WAS a million million
EDIT: He's just about 30 years behind, as thats around how long ago it changed
Oh and i should also note that if he is from continental europe then he is infact actually 100% correct in what he said, as they still use the old denotation for billions 
Post by: Ranger72 on January 30, 2004, 01:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (nleahcim @ Jan 29 2004, 03:29 AM) | ||
actually I ordered a Xecuter 2.3b lite from modchipman after they told me that they would be shipping early this week. I just got an e-mail from them again today and they said that they don't expect to get them in any time soon and that I can "upgrade" to a more expensive chip - the Xenium - for $18. I just wanted to know if there was any reason to spend the extra cash. I think I'll just ask for a refund and find someplace that has them in stock. |
I cant see how $18 is gona break the bank. I would just invest the $18 and get the top of the line chip and be happy that you own the best.
Also I dought you will find any X2.3 lites anywere for some time yet.