I haven't even gotten mine yet, and I preordered it from modwhiz.com early last week. I thought they were supposed to be shipping them this week, but nothing yet. And if they did ship them... well, so much for overnight delivery.
Yeah, I e-mailed them too.... I smell conspiracy!
I don't really mind waiting, I just wish that they would at least let us know what's going on.
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2. The adapter is ready, here, now, and will be in the hands of the customers (you) as soon as possible. Keep in mind that they basically need to go from factory to warehousing to distribution to the resellers, to be repackaged as their pre-orders are processed, and then re-shipped out to you..... This is not an overnight process and, again, is not in Team Xodus' hands. We are doing our best to hurry things along, but you have to understand that after production begins, and we make the product announcement, everything is left up to the supply chain..... and it's not a short chain.
I have layed out and ordered custom electronics before and there definitely can be a number of hold ups from order to ship.
all they have to type is " SP will ship 28th of May" 5 words easy
thebroken
QUOTE(-copyguy- @ Feb 28 2005, 03:51 PM)
w00t! Straight from modwhiz.com:
is there another place to order from? For some reason, the site won't let me order... I tried calling him too, but the it was still rejected... WTF?
...
this is from modchipman.com...
Xenium S.P.ICE is currently on PREORDER. According to Team Xodus, it should arrive FIRST week of March.
greg
I got a reply about my preorder yesterday from Divineo.ch that they were told by Xodus not to expect release of the SPICE for 3-4 more weeks. By promoting a product as if it were available and then failing to deliver in a reasonable time of getting me all "hot and bothered" about it, Xodus has lost a sale. Screw this! I am canceling my preorder going with the Spiderchip. My brother has the install technique perfected and all the installs he has done work great.
QUOTE(PackingHeat @ Mar 1 2005, 10:58 PM)
I got a reply about my preorder yesterday from Divineo.ch that they were told by Xodus not to expect release of the SPICE for 3-4 more weeks. By promoting a product as if it were available and then failing to deliver in a reasonable time of getting me all "hot and bothered" about it, Xodus has lost a sale. Screw this! I am canceling my preorder going with the Spiderchip. My brother has the install technique perfected and all the installs he has done work great.
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I am canceling my preorder going with the Spiderchip.
1. If you're too lazy to solder it, shame on you.
2. I feel sorry for ANYONE who buys a spiderchip LOL.
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2. I feel sorry for ANYONE who buys a spiderchip LOL.
I second that
QUOTE(Elf_Sniper @ Mar 2 2005, 11:16 PM)
1. If you're too lazy to solder it, shame on you.
Modwhiz.com has updated their website again...
Xenium S.P. ICE now on sale! All pre-orders now being processed for shipping. All shipping delays now settled.
so hopefully I'll be getting my SP soon...
I tried soldering and even with practice managed to botch the job...some of us just can't solder...that's who the solderless adapters are for...
-copyguy-
Just saw that, though I still haven't gotten a tracking number.
QUOTE(cblaz86 @ Mar 3 2005, 04:06 PM)
Just saw that, though I still haven't gotten a tracking number.
The way things have been going, I wouldn't doubt that this is just another ploy to get us off their back. Hopefully, I'm wrong and they truly are shipping.
QUOTE(cblaz86 @ Mar 2 2005, 10:39 PM)
Maybe he's not lazy... maybe he:
I think everyone needs to stop bitching about this thing. Its very simple. You can either wait until the resellers decide to send the adapters out (or whenever xodus sends them to the resellers), or you can use the money to pay someone else to solder the thing in for you (no need to wait), or you can solder it in yourself. Those are your options, bitching doesn't help anything. If you guys arent patient, then just solder it yourself or pay someone to do it for you (it isn't hard). End of story.
QUOTE(Elf_Sniper)
1. I didn't have any prior soldering experience
Yeah... and 80% of people didn't have any prior experience either...
I sure as hell didn't...
modwhiz hasnt given me my tracking number DAMMIT ! !
QUOTE(acemilo @ Mar 4 2005, 02:11 AM)
I think everyone needs to stop bitching about this thing. Its very simple. You can either wait until the resellers decide to send the adapters out (or whenever xodus sends them to the resellers), or you can use the money to pay someone else to solder the thing in for you (no need to wait), or you can solder it in yourself. Those are your options, bitching doesn't help anything. If you guys arent patient, then just solder it yourself or pay someone to do it for you (it isn't hard). End of story.
QUOTE(Elf_Sniper @ Mar 4 2005, 12:09 AM)
1. I didn't have any prior soldering experience
Most resellers dont read these boards, so if you want answers you will have to email them directly or go to their irc channels. Bitching about it here won't solve anything (and btw its most likely xodus' fault that there are delays).
QUOTE(acemilo @ Mar 4 2005, 01:09 AM)
Most resellers dont read these boards, so if you want answers you will have to email them directly or go to their irc channels. Bitching about it here won't solve anything (and btw its most likely xodus' fault that there are delays).
QUOTE(acemilo @ Mar 4 2005, 06:09 AM)
...so if you want answers you will have to email them directly...
From modwhiz.com:
"Xenium S.P. ICE now on sale! All pre-orders now being processed for shipping. Tracking numbers sent directly via FedEX software. All shipping delays now settled. Stock has arrived and is being sent out daily! We apologize for any past delays and appreciate your patience in this matter. Modwhiz.com Staff"
Yay! Where should I check for my tracking number? E-Mail?
Thanks for the great response to the pre-order and your patience in this matter.
Regards,
ModWhiz.com
Ok now I am highley upset. I placed my order with Divineo.com 2 weeks ago
I figured they were just laying low and not advertising that when they were shipping them. Well now I wish I would have canceled that order and purchased from Modwhiz.com. Anyone out there have any clue if and when Divineo.com is shipping orders?
QUOTE(NeroNetFi @ Mar 5 2005, 12:57 AM)
Ok now I am highley upset. I placed my order with Divineo.com 2 weeks ago
I should call off sick from work when it gets here. I think I deserve that after waiting so long to get it
I ordered my spice adaptor from modwhiz got my tracking number on fri... I ordered the spice package for my friend in diveno and i got the tracking number today...
This will not work with any 5V powered modchips ( aka X3, XChip, X-Lite, etc ) 100%.
This design using teh Standby 5V on LPC pin #6 which means when you make chnage sin BIOS or wnat to disable chip you must unplug power cord and reinsert to make changes.
Truely FALSE advertising by Xodus, as saying truly solderless and compatible with all 4th gen modchips.
As for the X3 and HDD/LAN leds, you can just run those wires directly to modchip and not use the header soldereding in 3 pins, but you will still be lacking 5V needed for it so, you will be curring a trace on white PCB and soldering a true 5V and not 5VSB to the modchips. Or not use them!
As for modwhiz' lets see call you Tuesday your not at office, you state pickups on Thursday no one in office or answering emails or phone calls, and office hours on machine, Friday call and message from thursday stating no one working all shipped, now on Friday say working overtime to ship. Seems miss organized big time, as no one at office on Griffith Wednesday/Thursday/Friday at any hours( yes i work a mear 4-5 blcoks away and visitied/tried to visit several times ). Please PM me, ASAP very disappointed in delays. Now Friday afternoon changes to Monday message no one in office till then.
Hi Christine Young,
I will let Xodus answer your post for themselves.
As for us, if you are the person I spoke to on the phone that wanted to pass by our office to pick it up but did not want to wait for the bus, then I do not see what your problem is.
We do not do local pickups from our office location per say, we do make some exceptions sometimes. As for us being in the office, we are there 9-5 weekdays and much later usually. We have a couple locations in that building for starters not to mention I do not even recall giving you our suite number so how could you make such statements. We have a sales and shipping office in that building for security reasons, so you may have caught us while we were shipping packages.
As for the phone, we intentionally closed the phone line from wedsnday-friday with an informative message explaining the situation to everyone to alleviate the high volume of calls we were receiving to focus on getting everything done.
Oh... it's Sunday and we are at the office, guess you are right... we're never here.
Thank you for your concerns and telling us how we (mis)-run our business without any knowledge of the day to day operations.
Regards,
ModWhiz.com
QUOTE(christineyoung @ Mar 6 2005, 05:59 PM)
This will not work with any 5V powered modchips ( aka X3, XChip, X-Lite, etc ) 100%.
This design using teh Standby 5V on LPC pin #6 which means when you make chnage sin BIOS or wnat to disable chip you must unplug power cord and reinsert to make changes.
Truely FALSE advertising by Xodus, as saying truly solderless and compatible with all 4th gen modchips.
As for the X3 and HDD/LAN leds, you can just run those wires directly to modchip and not use the header soldereding in 3 pins, but you will still be lacking 5V needed for it so, you will be curring a trace on white PCB and soldering a true 5V and not 5VSB to the modchips. Or not use them!
I find it interesting that you attempt to make a post sound knowledgeable, talking about the standby well, voltage requirements, and so forth.... yet I count, at a glance, at least a dozen grammatical and/or spelling mistakes, which is an impressive count for a mere 4-5 sentances! May I make a friendly suggestion that the next time you try to make a post "sound smart" you should perhaps start with a basic grasp of the language in which you're communicating. If english is not your first language, perhaps you should have someone more versed in the grammar review your statement before publicly humiliating yourself as such.
I find it even more interesting that this seemingly "informed" post contains such a drastic count of fallacies, misinformation, and ill-founded assumptions. I see that our competition has not been remiss in it's obligation of trying to downplay our superior design skills at every opportunity. They take advantage of every slight chance, no matter how absurd, to get an anti-Xodus word in edgewise.
If you had actually examined the design a bit further you would have, perhaps, noticed another reason that the X3 "won't work," that being the lack of the smbus pins. However, you would have likely noticed that there are a set of holes in place of where those smbus pins should be. A closer inspection might reveal that the pins of the adapter would fit nicely into these holes, or nicely out of them, in whatever configuration were required. The adapter pictured in the SPICE package is configured for a Xenium modchip, as it SHIPS WITH a Xenium modchip, and the assumption is that it is going to be used with that chip. Other configurations for other chips will, of course, be available.... For example, an X3 configuration with the smbus pins in the smbus pin spots, and the dreaded v1.6 5v standby-well power removed.
Yes, you heard me correctly, we've even taken the time to bother to design around the poor design skills of our competitors, solving their problems for them. They, instead, seem to choose to spend their time starting rumors, spreading misinformation, and trying to make themselves look good in spite of their own doings.
The fact that there is a 1.6 solderless solution should be cause for celebration, not trite attacks from competitors with no competing product.
At any rate, this is far more of a response then your original post warranted in the first place, so I'll be moving along now.
Thank you for your patronage,
--Artifex
Hey artifex, you still never mentioned the alt 5v source. I understand that your are bothered when someone knocks your product, but he is right, the adapter will not work with an x3 on a 1.6. The x3 needs the alt 5v source and there is no method of getting that power from your adapter. Sorry, but its the truth.
Artifex: If you would had read my response more closely, i noted the 3 pins which i suggested to thers to wire directly rather then pin headers. I nearly pointed out a issue of the 5V only used by a few chips anyways but when you/Xodus stated works with Xecuters designs, you may have added that a true 5V source is suggested. Its always best to hear feedback, rather then to reflect and think you are #1 all the time, improvements always enhance a product but then again how many revisions of Chameleon( i have at least 3 ) and Xeniums( I have at least 2 ) did you have? All improvements after initial design. As for grammer, so be it if i don't speak native english 100%. BTW I have yet to read any rumours about this product from competition, or are you( xodus ) scared of the secrecy of the LED's ( Voltage high for connection diagnostics ). Simple concept!
Do you honestly expect by saying compatible with other modchips you are not putting yourselves up to support what you called "poor design" as you state compatible. I just pointed out obvious.
Your product does work on your products, but maybe clarification as you mention #1 selling competition compatible ( X3 ) which will make your sales skyrocket, you must be prepared for support as well and have explaination handy on why a 1 wire solution for voltage maybe required.
You could had also noted about the smbus pins that if used pogo pins, soldering to underside may cause issues so your forethough and devised simple pin header install method for these 3 pins.
Agin sorry for my english, but if you can't take critisism, to make improvements what use is listening and addreessing using issues.
BTW I must admit the rerouting of the D0 for old systems( black plastic pogo pin adapter ) to use as a LAD line creative and simple concept on PCB. Simplicity is sometimes the best way.
Hey christine i think it's time to update your X-S bad dealings signature.
hmm
i buy all my stuff from m o d s o u r c e good ppl there
QUOTE(christineyoung @ Mar 6 2005, 12:59 PM)
This will not work with any 5V powered modchips ( aka X3, XChip, X-Lite, etc ) 100%.
yet again wait till you get it
thebroken
QUOTE(acemilo @ Mar 7 2005, 03:06 AM)
Hey artifex, you still never mentioned the alt 5v source. I understand that your are bothered when someone knocks your product, but he is right, the adapter will not work with an x3 on a 1.6. The x3 needs the alt 5v source and there is no method of getting that power from your adapter. Sorry, but its the truth.
QUOTE(Artifex @ Mar 7 2005, 04:35 PM)
Just received my S.P. Ice!! I'm going to put it in right after I head to Best Buy for a hard drive. Oh, and the surprise is a $5.00 rebate, very generous of modwhiz to make up for the delays. Quick question, if need be, can I install a 7200 rpm in the Xbox? Thanks in advance.
QUOTE(cblaz86 @ Mar 7 2005, 04:24 PM)
Just received my S.P. Ice!! I'm going to put it in right after I head to Best Buy for a hard drive. Oh, and the surprise is a $5.00 rebate, very generous of modwhiz to make up for the delays. Quick question, if need be, can I install a 7200 rpm in the Xbox? Thanks in advance.
I'm still trying to figure out how they plan on getting the alt 5v without using pin 6. Care to shed any DETAILS on this artifex? All you said was it is gonna have configurations, yet you give no details on this. All I would like to know is how do you plan on getting the alt 5v? And for the record, I was quite good at wheres waldo puzzles and there is no need to be a smart ass. All I did was merely bring up a valid point that there is no NOTICEABLE way to get the alt 5v from the pics YOU released. All I would like to know is how you go about getting the 5v from a source other than pin 6.
http://www.bestbuy.c...d=1051384641627
Good for Xbox or no?
go check in the stickies for the HD compatability link
QUOTE(acemilo @ Mar 7 2005, 09:38 PM)
I'm still trying to figure out how they plan on getting the alt 5v without using pin 6. Care to shed any DETAILS on this artifex? All you said was it is gonna have configurations, yet you give no details on this. All I would like to know is how do you plan on getting the alt 5v? And for the record, I was quite good at wheres waldo puzzles and there is no need to be a smart ass. All I did was merely bring up a valid point that there is no NOTICEABLE way to get the alt 5v from the pics YOU released. All I would like to know is how you go about getting the 5v from a source other than pin 6.
QUOTE(DJSymmetry @ Mar 7 2005, 05:21 PM)
has anyone else preordered with divineo and still not recieved a fedex tracking number? I am getting impatient, I guess I'll go modwhiz next time.
QUOTE(Artifex @ Mar 7 2005, 05:16 PM)
No, I'm afraid I can't give you DETAILS just yet. You'll get DETAILS in good time, when the X3 configuration is released. The configuration point for the Alt-5v is, indeed, NOTICEABLE in the pictures that WE released.
QUOTE(gamersha794 @ Mar 7 2005, 10:05 PM)
go check in the stickies for the HD compatability link
Excuse me for the incredibly noobish question. But is getting a new hard drive a must have if you plan on installing the SP.ICE? Or for that matter any modchip?
Also what do you guys think of modchipstore.com? I pre-ordered the Official Xodus Xenium SP.ICE Modchip and adapter from them. Are they trustworthy?
QUOTE(Polup @ Mar 7 2005, 04:02 PM)
is getting a new hard drive a must have if you plan on installing the SP.ICE? Or for that matter any modchip?
QUOTE(cblaz86 @ Mar 7 2005, 07:59 PM)
Can anyone point me to the direction of a guide or any kind of help? I'm pretty lost.
Artifex: Not sure if i received different model but X-Chip will not fit ( too close to case edge) . Did you try yourselves with X-Chip or assumed would work. It is a longer board then others.
QUOTE(christineyoung @ Mar 7 2005, 07:18 PM)
Artifex: Not sure if i received different model but X-Chip will not fit ( too close to case edge) . Did you try yourselves with X-Chip or assumed would work. It is a longer board then others.
Help? I have no idea how to screw this thing in.
perhaps a screwdriver?
didnt the sp.ice come with any instructions???
cblaz86: Righty tighty, lefty loosey
Got it in. The Xenium screen is awesome to see for the first time.
Now to figure out what to do from here.
Ran into trouble. After I set up the original BIOS and tried running with them, I got a "service required, call customer support" error screen. Why did this happen, is there something wrong with the installation?
EDIT:
Nevermind, just had to lock the HD.
I need this clarified:
Using the 1.6 adapter, can I install the X3 chip without any soldering whatsoever? That includes, D0, HD, and Lan wire solders, etc. Yes or no?
QUOTE(2XNKOTE @ Mar 8 2005, 10:02 AM)
yeah i havent got my modwiz tracking either, i paid for it on friday 21st feb or something, 2-3 days delivery, still not here and they dont respond to emails
I got my tracking number from diveneo on Friday March 4th. So I should have it today or tomorrow... I hope.
QUOTE(nfidel @ Mar 8 2005, 03:10 PM)
Why does Xodus claim this is a universal adapter? Got mine today and the plastic guide would not fit on the two early model Xboxes I tried. Anyone succeeded in getting this to work with 1.0 or 1.1 models?
QUOTE(appleguru @ Mar 8 2005, 09:20 PM)
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you only use the guide for 1.6 installs... for 1.0/1.1 models I'm pretty sure you just use the black base part of the adapter.
QUOTE(-copyguy- @ Mar 8 2005, 03:31 PM)
Yep, their web page states that ALL preorders have been shipped...Still no tracking number on my account on their page or in my email...also, no response in their IRC channel (from them)...
QUOTE(nfidel @ Mar 8 2005, 09:42 PM)
Problem is, without using the plastic guide it seems impossible to align the wires. The video and all the guides assume you are using the guide. Has anyone managed to get this to work w/o the guide?
QUOTE(acemilo @ Mar 8 2005, 10:05 PM)
LMAO the problems begin! The plastic piece seems to be only needed if you are using it on a 1.6. If your not using a 1.6, then there is no need for that whole piece, just use the lower part.
QUOTE(christineyoung @ Mar 7 2005, 09:18 PM)
Artifex: Not sure if i received different model but X-Chip will not fit ( too close to case edge) . Did you try yourselves with X-Chip or assumed would work. It is a longer board then others.
**SIGH**
The plastic guide and white pcb are only for 1.6 boxes. On 1.0-1.4 you only need to use the bottom black peice.
And, please, let me re-iterate, the adapter which is shipped with the SPICE package is configured for the Xenium ICE only. Additional configurations for the x3, xchip, etc will be available shortly.
--Artifex
anyone with no patience mailed divineo.co.uk and knows when they are going to ship ?
i figured most things out how to install and bladibla.. just download the iceguide from www.teamxodus.com. It tells you where to find hdd's you can use, what bios will work on the v1.6 xbox's (in my case) and everything you need to know after you plugged your ice chip in! It does help when people say you must read stuff!
The awnser is on the internet. No doubt.
Greetz
Pinda
QUOTE(Visionary @ Mar 9 2005, 07:39 AM)
What about the SP Adapter that is shipping without the SPICE package? It is being advertised and sold as (and as you previously stated) a solderless solution for all modern chips.
Let me say it again...
The SP adapter itself is designed to be flexible enough to work with all chips.
The SP adapter which ships with the SPICE is configured to be solderless with the ICE it ships with.
The adapter can be reconfigured during assembly at factory for other chips. Currently, the only configuration being shipped is the SPICE (Xenium ICE compatible) configuration. The X3/Xchip/Smartxx configurations have additional pogos, alt-5v attachment, etc... as necessary. These configurations will be available soon.
I noticed that on Divineo's page, the text describing the SP is incorrect, and does not mention this fact. We will contact divineo and ask them to update the description accordingly.
--Artifex
You have to wait until xodus decides to release them.
http://www.teamxodus...als/S.P.Ice.pdf
also my spice just arrived in england so i should get it soon
QUOTE(acemilo @ Mar 10 2005, 08:15 AM)
http://www.teamxodus...als/S.P.Ice.pdf
QUOTE(Gumba @ Mar 10 2005, 12:56 AM)
I think a 1.0-1.4 guide would be a good idea too.
QUOTE(HeavyM @ Mar 10 2005, 02:10 AM)
alright i might be missing this somewhere.. but whats the difference between the SPICE and the ICE solderless? does the SPICE only benefit the 1.6 box?
Now if it becomes true that all SP's out will not work with other modchips solderlessly and all people require new one or add on board, I think we should hit Xodus the same way they hit clone sellers. Return SP's demand money back and STOP credit Card payments, expect nothing more then the product you ordered and payed for! Unless they are willing to ship proper parts to all owners free of charge. Only time will tell. Also note it is now appearing as SP - ICE adapter( Ice as in there own chip and only work on ther chip ) on sites today rather then SP adapter a few days ago.
They are now stating design to be changed at manufacturer for other chips which equals redesign of PCB and adding of pogo pins for other modchips, which means the adapter you have now will not work with other modchips as is solderlessly, and will require soldering to us as is.
As for everyone with pre-1.6's it was clearly stated only to use the black plastic mold as if normal solderless adapter.
For poeple using a 5V modchip, remove pogo pin #6 and solder 5V direct from motherboard, one wire is better then 5.
I broke something.
On my second install attempt with the SP adapter, I snapped off one of the five copper wires that connect to the center of the holes.
Please tell me I can just solder this back in.
QUOTE(christineyoung @ Mar 10 2005, 04:40 AM)
Now if it becomes true that all SP's out will not work with other modchips solderlessly and all people require new one or add on board, I think we should hit Xodus the same way they hit clone sellers. Return SP's demand money back and STOP credit Card payments, expect nothing more then the product you ordered and payed for!
QUOTE(christineyoung @ Mar 9 2005, 11:40 PM)
Now if it becomes true that all SP's out will not work with other modchips solderlessly and all people require new one or add on board, I think we should hit Xodus the same way they hit clone sellers.
Return SP's demand money back and STOP credit Card payments, expect nothing more then the product you ordered and payed for! Unless they are willing to ship proper parts to all owners free of charge. Only time will tell. Also note it is now appearing as SP - ICE adapter( Ice as in there own chip and only work on ther chip ) on sites today rather then SP adapter a few days ago.
Glad to see you are on top of things. I agree that ppl should be pissed if they were misled, but realistically you have to deal with resellers: the ppl that sold you the chip. I have been quite public in pointing out the flaws of this adapter and the misconceptions of most ppl that it will work with an x3 right now solderlessly, but there really is no need to get all bent out of shape over it. It is messed up tho that xodus waited until today (or yesterday depending on how you look at the time) to announce that there will be "configurations." All it boils down to is if you bought this and expected it to work with an x3 or x2.6, return it to your reseller and let teamxodus now why you did so.
QUOTE(HSDEMONZ @ Mar 10 2005, 08:50 AM)
I'll tell you what concerns me...
Too much.
Maybe I'll start checking all my email again, and see who else in the scene plays these games..
QUOTE(cblaz86 @ Mar 10 2005, 06:26 AM)
I broke something.
Sweet...Go team Xodus
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XENIUM SPICE NOW SHIPPING:
We are proud to announce that our much anticipated bundled package including, Xenium, Xsorease and our brand new 1.6 compatible adaptor are now shipping. As expected, with the release of yet another revolutionary product, demand has been overwhelming and we have been working night and day to fulfill back orders. We are glad to announce that we are now on track and that orders are shipping.
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION
Despite our clear and concise announcements it appears that some retailers have caused confusion in the market by trying to separate the special SPICE bundle pack to sell adaptors separately. This will not work! We would like to make it clear to all that there is a distinct difference between the SPICE adaptor and the Xodus SP adaptor (not yet released).
The SPICE bundle pack has an adaptor that works off 3.3 volts and will work with chips that are 3.3 volts ONLY. It will not work with other chips.
The SP adaptor is the universal one that will work with other chips and it is not yet released. We have individually contacted retailers to clarify these points once again and we are ensuring that confusing text on sites is being rectified immediately. Our specially configured adaptor for the SPICE bundle is just that, specially configured and should not be confused in any way whatsoever with the universal SP adaptor designed for all other chips. We trust that the point is now made and that the difference is now crystal clear to all.
INSTALL MANUALS HERE
Included in this post are the install manuals that many of you have been waiting for. (Manual). Updated manuals for the 1.0 - 1.4 install will follow shortly.
http://www.pictures....005/S.P.Ice.pdf