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Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: Xbox-Scene on October 27, 2009, 11:32:00 AM
Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Posted by XanTium | October 27 13:32 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From kotaku.com:
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It's official. In the UK, Sky has launched on Xbox LIVE and Gold members with at least 2Mb broadband and either a Sky TV or Sky Player can watch Sky One, MTV and Sky Arts, reports CVG.

Those without Sky subscriptions can subscribe for £15 and for £19 for sports channels. Twenty-four channels are currently on the Sky service.

According to Sky's David Mercer, terrestrial channels are not yet available and programs won't be shown in HD because of poor British broadband speeds.

Full Story: kotaku.com



Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: hamwbone on October 27, 2009, 11:39:00 AM
Americans left out YET AGAIN!!!!
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Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: Arius on October 27, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
QUOTE(hamwbone @ Oct 27 2009, 06:39 PM) View Post

Americans left out YET AGAIN!!!!
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Wouldnt worry too much, it dont work half the time.

They added it, and then pulled it.

Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: WOlfSaviorZX on October 27, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
Its all good, I hate western television anyway so doesn't affect me.
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: lyonzy on October 27, 2009, 12:41:00 PM
QUOTE(hamwbone @ Oct 27 2009, 06:39 PM) View Post

Americans left out YET AGAIN!!!!
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bskyb(and the sky brand) is a uk/ireland sattellite provider. the only way you would get it in the us is with direct tv or another us provider.

[edit]although i am aware that there is a few other veriations by news corp such as sky italia but they are not part of the bskyb's sky
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: MrFish on October 27, 2009, 12:53:00 PM
QUOTE(lyonzy @ Oct 27 2009, 06:41 PM) View Post

bskyb(and the sky brand) is a uk/ireland sattellite provider. the only way you would get it in the us is with direct tv or another us provider.

[edit]although i am aware that there is a few other veriations by news corp such as sky italia but they are not part of the bskyb's sky

Didn't spot the joke, eh?
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: SupaDawg on October 27, 2009, 01:06:00 PM
Well, at least the promise of IPTV got filled somewhere on the 360. Considering all the 'partnerships' we were led to see coming, it's nice to see that it's not a complete bust.
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: modslave on October 27, 2009, 02:07:00 PM
QUOTE(MrFish @ Oct 27 2009, 07:53 PM) View Post

Didn't spot the joke, eh?


I got it and was thinkin the same   biggrin.gif

But erm it came and went so quickly I missed it  blink.gif
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: CollinstheClown on October 27, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
Thats ok, I'll just switch to HDMI input 1 for TV.
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: modslave on October 27, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
QUOTE(CollinstheClown @ Oct 27 2009, 10:15 PM) *

Thats ok, I'll just switch to HDMI input 1 for TV.


Which is exactly what I will do, never use this feature.
I wouldn't pay the Live, Sky, phone line and broadband subscription to watch SD TV!
SKY HD+ FTW
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: sinister slipknot on October 27, 2009, 06:00:00 PM
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According to Sky's David Mercer, terrestrial channels are not yet available and programs won't be shown in HD because of poor British broadband speeds.


Yet, Microsoft still thinks that 1080p video streaming is better than Blu ray, why?
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: demon148 on October 27, 2009, 06:10:00 PM
yup at present they have took it off, was supposed to be not that long ago and still nothing. Also it works out to be cheaper if you have a sky digibox and not through the xbox. hamwbone I said the same thing about the rest of us when Americans etc got Netflix and when they got the movies service first. So obviously we all have to benefit from something, what one gets the rest have to get something of equal value.
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: somenutter on October 27, 2009, 06:35:00 PM
I like what i read about this from elsewere...


"won't be shown in HD because of poor British broadband speeds"
is market speak for
"won't be shown in HD because of shite Sky broadband speeds/Sky can't be arsed to pay for bandwidth"


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Thats so true, why bother with this if its not hd, and if you can only use it if you pay, and theres no free channels ? sucks ass if you ask me, i have a sky hd box that i dont have a sub for that picks up quiet a few free channels so why cant i get those on xbox ? what a load of cobblers
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: robo989 on October 27, 2009, 06:53:00 PM
QUOTE(somenutter @ Oct 28 2009, 02:35 AM) *

I like what i read about this from elsewere...
"won't be shown in HD because of poor British broadband speeds"
is market speak for
"won't be shown in HD because of shite Sky broadband speeds/Sky can't be arsed to pay for bandwidth"
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Thats so true, why bother with this if its not hd, and if you can only use it if you pay, and theres no free channels ? sucks ass if you ask me, i have a sky hd box that i dont have a sub for that picks up quiet a few free channels so why cant i get those on xbox ? what a load of cobblers


You can get 1 channel free....Sky News (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: amak1131 on October 27, 2009, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE(sinister slipknot @ Oct 27 2009, 05:00 PM) View Post

Yet, Microsoft still thinks that 1080p video streaming is better than Blu ray, why?



Depends if it is upscaled or tampered in any other way.
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: hamwbone on October 27, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
QUOTE(demon148 @ Oct 27 2009, 07:10 PM) View Post

yup at present they have took it off, was supposed to be not that long ago and still nothing. Also it works out to be cheaper if you have a sky digibox and not through the xbox. hamwbone I said the same thing about the rest of us when Americans etc got Netflix and when they got the movies service first. So obviously we all have to benefit from something, what one gets the rest have to get something of equal value.


I know.   biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  I have heard that so many times I had to say it at least once, for Ahmercuh!
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Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: Arius on October 28, 2009, 03:25:00 AM
Yeah I was having a thick moment, they seem to be happening more often as I get older
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: Shiny Lunch Box on October 28, 2009, 05:29:00 AM
The UK always get bummed for stuf!

I live in the UK and also have USA, Canada, Japan and German XBL accounts.

I have been pissed off for ages that the US Marketplace gets tons of movies, AND so so many TV shows its unreal!! Whereas in the UK we dont get any..at all

although ive noticed that Zune marketplace has a space for TV shows in my BETA
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: demon148 on October 28, 2009, 06:00:00 AM
Yes I admit broadband speeds here are much slower than anywhere else. As for SKY they offer a 20mb service, but for most of its package deals they only give you up to 2mb braodband, which I find bad. As for BT what happened to MS teaming up with BT, they were supposed to offer somethig similar, so when did sky come into it, and when I checked this morning the sky player still hadnt been put back on. I dont think I would like to pay for Xbox live subscription and then sky subscriptions just to watch it on the xbox, in the end still would be cheaper to buy sky seperate.
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: ca102455 on October 28, 2009, 06:09:00 AM
This is ridiculous, I already subscribe to $ky's HD service yet to watch sub quality PQ streamed over the net $ky still say i have to pay another £10 a month on top of what I already pay for their HD Satellite TV service.

At present the only channel available to watch for free is $ky news streamed in ropey picture quality

I mean who on earth is going to pay for this rubbish. Apparently for non $ky subscribers they have to pay £15 a month to watch poor PQ with only a limited number of channels. For a couple of pounds more a month people can have a full satellite TV service giving high quality PQ & 100's of channels with the ability to record live TV.

Seriously this is a gimmick from $ky, they should at least be streaming all their freeview channels to all if they want a serious take up on this?
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: Heimdall on October 28, 2009, 06:33:00 AM
QUOTE(demon148 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:00 PM) View Post

Yes I admit broadband speeds here are much slower than anywhere else. As for SKY they offer a 20mb service, but for most of its package deals they only give you up to 2mb braodband, which I find bad.
Sorry, and I realise this is off-topic, but your first point is simply not true, and is a really good example of people being given poor statistics by lazy or badly educated journalists, and believing them.

ADSL broadband line sync speed is determined by the protocol (e.g. the various flavours of ITU G.992, the quality of the line and the distance from exchange, and by proximity to sources of interference along the route. Most people's line speed in the UK is further limited (often quite significantly) by their internal house telephony wiring, and in particular by the ring extension wire (pin 3 from the master socket). Much of the rest of the world never implemented the pin 3 ring extension wire, so don't have that problem. If you fix that (5 minutes on Google plus a 2 minute DIY job, here's a starter for ten) the average broadband speed across the UK will leap significantly.

The next issue is the degree to which your ISP throttles actual data throughput to manage the traffic on their backhaul network - and that's your second point about Sky, which is true.

The final issue is that there are lots of technical ways of delivering Internet connections (ADSL, DSL, fibre, CATV), all with different performance profiles.

The recent league tables showing the UK in 30th place completely failed to differentiate between any of these. If you compare like with like e.g. compare ADSL vs ADSL, and factor in the proportion of the area of the country that can get access to broadband (which is a good indicator of proximity to the exchange), and factor in the proportion of people who simply haven't bothered to remove their pin 3, you'd find the UK leaping up the scale significantly.

So please, don't just believe the stats about how bad broadband in the UK is. Fix your house telephone wiring, then focus on the real issue - the backhaul throttling (often called a "fair usage policy"), which is the only thing that your ISP can actually change without significant investment.

/rant.
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: K1LLERHORNET on October 28, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
QUOTE(ca102455 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:09 PM) *

This is ridiculous, I already subscribe to $ky's HD service yet to watch sub quality PQ streamed over the net $ky still say i have to pay another £10 a month on top of what I already pay for their HD Satellite TV service.

At present the only channel available to watch for free is $ky news streamed in ropey picture quality

I mean who on earth is going to pay for this rubbish. Apparently for non $ky subscribers they have to pay £15 a month to watch poor PQ with only a limited number of channels. For a couple of pounds more a month people can have a full satellite TV service giving high quality PQ & 100's of channels with the ability to record live TV.

Seriously this is a gimmick from $ky, they should at least be streaming all their freeview channels to all if they want a serious take up on this?


I agree.

Sky Player has turned out to be really crap.
Title: Sky Launches On Xbox 360
Post by: kingprawn on October 28, 2009, 12:56:00 PM
This must be one of the worst launches I have ever seen.

First they have to pull it because of technical problems. Now they have tried again and it has taken out the whole skyplayer website due to everybody trying to sign up.

I don't know who the project manager was but I hope he got fired.

How did they test it? 3 of them sit in a room and fire it up connected directly into the server.

What a bunch of muppets.