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Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jaysoccer7c on September 28, 2004, 04:17:00 PM
I have 13,000 to spend on a used car..im 17, and i dont know shit about cars..tell me what u think is good...a link to the car on autotrader would help  ;)  thanks

-j

This post has been edited by jaysoccer7c on Sep 29 2004, 02:42 AM
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: nemt on September 28, 2004, 04:42:00 PM
Well...are you looking for a new car or a used car?
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 28, 2004, 04:46:00 PM
Heh, I think he's looking for the best deal...
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: nemt on September 28, 2004, 05:04:00 PM
QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Sep 28 2004, 06:46 PM)
Heh, I think he's looking for the best deal...

 The best deal is the new Pontiac GTO for about $30k, which he clearly can't afford.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 28, 2004, 05:11:00 PM
Omg. You're starting your bs again. He want the best deal for 13k. How hard can it be?
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jaysoccer7c on September 28, 2004, 07:41:00 PM
used
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: fishlord on September 28, 2004, 07:44:00 PM
What are your priorities for the car?  (fast or good on fuel or looks wicked or pack in lots of people or ...)
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 28, 2004, 06:47:00 PM
What about a 3 series BMW or C class Mercedes?

BMW 3 series

Mercedes C Class

Used, 2000 - 2001.

Check the price tags on those of you're interested. I'm not 100% sure about the prices where you are.

Edit:

The Saab 9-5 2001 should be perfect for your budget.

Saab 9-5
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jaysoccer7c on September 28, 2004, 08:06:00 PM
thanks..but can u tell me the exact name of the car..again im retarted...i dont know what to put in for the model b/c of the 20 different models that are in the 300s on autotrader =\ same thing with C...could u tell me which on those are ? thanks
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: nemt on September 28, 2004, 08:17:00 PM
A 2000-2002 Maxima would be a very safe bet.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 28, 2004, 07:26:00 PM
Hmm, that autotrader.com seems quiet high pricing.

Check you "Buy now" cars at eBay.

Here's a few examples:

Saab 9-5 2001

Jaguar XJ8 1998

BMW 323 1999

Mercedes C 230 2000
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jaysoccer7c on September 28, 2004, 08:30:00 PM
(IMG:http://img46.exs.cx/img46/3144/noname1095812336.jpg)
am i stupid for liking the hyundai tiburon?
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 28, 2004, 08:34:00 PM
I don't think stupidity is based on taste, so no.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: yaazz on September 28, 2004, 07:54:00 PM
I like that car too, the older ones were kinda ugly, but I dunno, hyundai has really managed to change its image from bottom of the barrell shit can, to a real competitor, you cant go wrong with one thats for sure, but buy a used one (id say 2000-2002) and put a nice stereo in it too, then you be pimpin

or you cold always get a riced up geo storm!

EDIT: 1994-97 5.0 Mustang GT Cobra, then spend the extra cash on mods... or gas   biggrin.gif  Freind of mine has this same car (1990) and it is damn fast and damn powerful. Add to that the nicer look of the newer mustangs (I just dont like anything after the really old ones until 1994) and you wold have a sweet car.

Also, If I had 17000, I would put a lot away for university
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Post by: jonnyschultze on September 28, 2004, 08:59:00 PM
Mercedes and BMW's are nice, but realistically, who's would pay the insurance? (17 year old + high end luxury car = big $$$$!) Secondly, you have to look at the fact that a three year old car typically won't have warranty anymore. Thirdly, you have to look at something that you can get serviced locally, i.e. your local fixit shop won't be able to fix some foreign cars, and if the nearest BMW dealer is 40 miles away, you have to pay for towing.

If I were you, I'd look at something NEW (2004), there is huge rebates and discounts for the year end, and for the money you can find a lot of decent cars out there, with FULL warranty, and then you also won't be buying someone elses problems.
Personally - I recommend Mitsubishi, they have a hell of a warranty and the cars seem to never need service work, unlike most US cars.

Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 28, 2004, 08:16:00 PM
QUOTE (jonnyschultze @ Sep 29 2004, 03:59 AM)
Mercedes and BMW's are nice, but realistically, who's would pay the insurance? (17 year old + high end luxury car = big $$$$!) Secondly, you have to look at the fact that a three year old car typically won't have warranty anymore. Thirdly, you have to look at something that you can get serviced locally, i.e. your local fixit shop won't be able to fix some foreign cars, and if the nearest BMW dealer is 40 miles away, you have to pay for towing.

If I were you, I'd look at something NEW (2004), there is huge rebates and discounts for the year end, and for the money you can find a lot of decent cars out there, with FULL warranty, and then you also won't be buying someone elses problems.
Personally - I recommend Mitsubishi, they have a hell of a warranty and the cars seem to never need service work, unlike most US cars.

Heh, fun thing you mention car repairs. You know BMW and Mercedes doesn't tend to break down very often - they're not like Ford. I don't see this as an issue at all.

Are the BMW 323 and MB C 230 seen as "luxury cars"? Both of these are common, safe, economic cars. You pay alittle more when they're new, for the quality - unlike the japs wich you refeer to.

If there's an issue with the insurance he can set the car in an older family member's name.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 28, 2004, 08:28:00 PM
If you like it, you go for it.

Btw, bring a friend or someone you know who has good knowledge of cars when you are to pick it up.
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Post by: Rylinkus on September 28, 2004, 09:16:00 PM
rolleyes.gif  mattered and thus it's my current car.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: fishlord on September 29, 2004, 12:08:00 AM
QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Sep 29 2004, 04:19 AM)


Are the BMW 323

323?? 320 perhaps?

The new tiburons are pretty nice but if you are tall dont get one... seriously it is frigging rediculous.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: dietrite on September 29, 2004, 01:05:00 AM
if i had $13k, i would put it away to save up about $13k more...(which is easier said than done) and buy my beloved dream car (below)
user posted image

*sniff*... anyways, u need to figure out what you need in a car (see rylinkus's post)
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 29, 2004, 05:57:00 AM
QUOTE (fishlord @ Sep 29 2004, 08:11 AM)
323?? 320 perhaps?

The new tiburons are pretty nice but if you are tall dont get one... seriously it is frigging rediculous.

323.


Interesting to see everyone starting to mention street racing cars when this guy isn't interested in cars.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: nemt on September 29, 2004, 09:54:00 AM
The 323 is no longer in production, nor is the 328...I guess Germans are only good with multiples of 5: 325 and 330.  The 318 isn't around anymore either!

Anyway, even a used BMW is out of his price range...and buying a non-m BMW is a waste.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: Baner on September 29, 2004, 10:59:00 AM
wink.gif
But seriously, you want a car, truck, Suv?
Foriegn? Domestic?
Fast, economic, a peice of crap?
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: dietrite on September 29, 2004, 12:38:00 PM
QUOTE (jaysoccer7c @ Sep 29 2004, 12:39 PM)
car, used, 13k, anything that looks good really  huh.gif , automatic preferably, fast is good i hit 90 on an average day  biggrin.gif , of course gas mileage is a plus, again i really dont know much thanks for all ur help guys...again if u recommend a car plz let me see an autotrader link of it thanks  biggrin.gif

domestic, import, no preference?
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: dietrite on September 29, 2004, 03:57:00 PM
how about a 1996 prelude si

http://cgi.ebay.com/...2&category=6259

whatchu think about that, it's fast and a good commuter car, looks nice too
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 29, 2004, 03:58:00 PM
QUOTE (nemt @ Sep 29 2004, 05:57 PM)
The 323 is no longer in production, nor is the 328...I guess Germans are only good with multiples of 5: 325 and 330.  The 318 isn't around anymore either!

Anyway, even a used BMW is out of his price range...and buying a non-m BMW is a waste.

Heh, I said 1999 323.

QUOTE
BMW 323 1999
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jonnyschultze on September 29, 2004, 05:35:00 PM
QUOTE
Heh, fun thing you mention car repairs. You know BMW and Mercedes doesn't tend to break down very often - they're not like Ford. I don't see this as an issue at all.

Yeah, I know BMW and M-B don't break down that often, but when they do, grab the vaseline. Parts are expensive, and you usually have to use genuine because aftermarket don't make parts for them. I don't care what make you buy, you'll have to do maintenance and repairs. Brakes and belts and lights don't last forever.


QUOTE
Are the BMW 323 and MB C 230 seen as "luxury cars"? Both of these are common, safe, economic cars. You pay alittle more when they're new, for the quality - unlike the japs wich you refeer to.


No there not seen as luxury cars. They're seen as cheaper, shittier made cars aimed at folks who think that driving a $30,000 M-B puts them higher on the status ladder than those who drive a $30,000 American car. Here, the quality between the foreign and US is comparable. You don't pay more for quality, you pay more for name.

I suggested Mitsubishi because for around 13k you can buy a new Lancer decently equipped, with 0 miles and 7year/100k warranty.

Another thing with auction vehicles: you have to remember that they are at the auction for a reason. I work for a dealership (yes, Mitsubishi, along with Chrysler, Jeep, and Dodge), and the other day we took in 98 subaru Impreza with 45k miles on trade, and the engine sounded real ticky (lifter noise). We added a quart of real thick oil to the engine to take care of tick noise long enough for it to go through the auction. Whoever buys the car will have a ticky engine after a couple of oil changes. Yes, this sounds dirty, but this happens EVERYWHERE ! A lot of cars on a used car lot come from auction. Keep this in mind when used car shopping, and ask the person whose selling it what kind of history it has. If it was a trade in, ask if you can talk to the previous owner. it never hurts. A lot of late model cars come from a corporation auction, which means most of them are previous rental cars. They don't have the dirty tricks put into them, but may have had a rough life. (Picture Days of Thunder movie when they are racing the rentals). Hopefully my pointers will help keep you from becoming a sucker on a car lot!
 

Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: Rylinkus on September 29, 2004, 06:13:00 PM
LOL Mitsubishi and Reliable in the same sentence.... Oh wait, I've got it....

"A Mistubishi is very rarely reliable"

I'll be the last to say I don't want an EVO and wouldn't keep myself very amused driving one, but I'd be planning on doing a lot of wrench turning too. Mitsubishi cars ARE NOT known for their reliability. Perhaps working at a dealership has made you jaded. I don't know. Consistently among the most reliable vehichles on the road, (From various surveys/tests) are Nissan, Toyota, and Honda. I'd say any of them is a safe bet. Were it me and all I wanted was something that would run forever I'd find it very hard to not look at a Civic that's a few years old. Or a Prelude or Integra of the same years. Bear in mind that any of these are considered "Sports cars" by high school students everywhere so making sure to find one that's adult driven is a key point. The Prelude is only a 2 door, while the Teg and Civic come in 2 door and 4 door forms, the Civic in a hatch as well.

Toyota.... well honestly I can't think of too much on the market by Toyota that I like. Maybe one of their trucks. They just don't have a sporty or semi sporty car that blows me away.

Nissan has some wonderful cars on the market IMO. The Maxima and Altima are both very stylish. (The nicest looking sedans without going into a very high price range from my point of view) Fairly powerful. No complaints.

The Hyundai is a cool looking little car. There reliability has certainly improved over the last few years, but I don't know if I'd sell the farm just yet to invest in em.

Other cars Ill mention in passing that you may want to consider.... Mazda 6 or 3 if you can find one in your price range. The newer Cavaliers that have the Ecotech engine. The Focus ZX3 with the PZEV engine seems promising though I don't know if it's available in Automatic. I've heard good things about the Pontiac Grand Ams recently.

The BEST car for your money is a REALLY tough call. There's a lot of personal needs and preferences that weigh in. If you were to ask me what the best car for MY 13K was and then my dad, I can promise you'd get very different answers. We just desire different things in a car. I'd probably be looking for an RX7 or something else sporty.

You need to think through this decision a little man. 13K is a lot to drop on a vehichle based on looks. You do need to drive the thing too. Maybe test drive a few cars and see if anything feels better then others. Or try to decide if you'll need 4 doors, or a big trunk, or would a hatch be nice. There's plenty of nice cars on the markets and 13K should allow you to buy something that's fairly decent, especially for being 17. The trick is to find something that suits you well.

I didn't find a bunch of links since it would be amazingly time consuming and my laptops power cord is being difficult right now. If you feel like hitting me up with an IM @ anytime, that's cool too. Rylinkus13 on AIM. I'm always up for a chat.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: pokinatcha on September 30, 2004, 09:25:00 AM
Hey kid, get a bike. End of discussion.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: fishlord on September 30, 2004, 01:40:00 PM
QUOTE (pokinatcha @ Sep 30 2004, 05:28 PM)
Hey kid, get a bike. End of discussion.

?  mhmm...
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 30, 2004, 05:29:00 PM
QUOTE (jonnyschultze @ Sep 30 2004, 01:38 AM)
Yeah, I know BMW and M-B don't break down that often, but when they do, grab the vaseline. Parts are expensive, and you usually have to use genuine because aftermarket don't make parts for them. I don't care what make you buy, you'll have to do maintenance and repairs. Brakes and belts and lights don't last forever.




No there not seen as luxury cars. They're seen as cheaper, shittier made cars aimed at folks who think that driving a $30,000 M-B puts them higher on the status ladder than those who drive a $30,000 American car. Here, the quality between the foreign and US is comparable. You don't pay more for quality, you pay more for name.

I suggested Mitsubishi because for around 13k you can buy a new Lancer decently equipped, with 0 miles and 7year/100k warranty.

Another thing with auction vehicles: you have to remember that they are at the auction for a reason. I work for a dealership (yes, Mitsubishi, along with Chrysler, Jeep, and Dodge), and the other day we took in 98 subaru Impreza with 45k miles on trade, and the engine sounded real ticky (lifter noise). We added a quart of real thick oil to the engine to take care of tick noise long enough for it to go through the auction. Whoever buys the car will have a ticky engine after a couple of oil changes. Yes, this sounds dirty, but this happens EVERYWHERE ! A lot of cars on a used car lot come from auction. Keep this in mind when used car shopping, and ask the person whose selling it what kind of history it has. If it was a trade in, ask if you can talk to the previous owner. it never hurts. A lot of late model cars come from a corporation auction, which means most of them are previous rental cars. They don't have the dirty tricks put into them, but may have had a rough life. (Picture Days of Thunder movie when they are racing the rentals). Hopefully my pointers will help keep you from becoming a sucker on a car lot!

Hehe, "you have to remember that they are at the auction for a reason". Since all kinds of cars are sold on eBay I don't see where you're heading with this "argument".

About that 30k bs I think you're about the only one thinking this, aslo since you called them "luxury" cars. As I said, these are common and safe quality cars, nothing more.

Keep to the facts as the rest of us.

Nothing lasts for ever, but higher quality will make sure it lasts longer than a crappy jap car.

How did it get the name? - Trough building quality cars. Saying that you pay for the name is just annother way of expression.

If theese cars were pure crap they would have no name to make money of.

Since you're so obsessed by warranties you should also know that Mercedes has the greatest rust warranty.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 30, 2004, 05:31:00 PM
QUOTE (pokinatcha @ Sep 30 2004, 05:28 PM)
Hey kid, get a bike. End of discussion.

QUOTE
I have 13,000 to spend on a used car..im 17, and i dont know shit about cars..tell me what u think is good...a link to the car on autotrader would help  wink.gif  thanks

-j


Read it again - "End of discussion".

(Hint: he wants a car, not a bike.)
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Post by: Mike_657 on September 30, 2004, 07:36:00 PM
LOL
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 30, 2004, 09:25:00 PM
Oh, they will all know.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on September 30, 2004, 09:31:00 PM
QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Sep 30 2004, 02:16 AM)
I'd probably be looking for an RX7 or something else sporty.

100% agree. I didn't know if I should suggest it or not, since he isn't very into cars, but then he said he wanted something fast, sporty, and economic.

The RX-7 is indeed perfect. But the age?...

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Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: dietrite on October 01, 2004, 01:25:00 AM
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Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on October 01, 2004, 09:36:00 AM
Yeep, 1993 is old. I'd go for the 2001 Saab 9-5 if I only had 13k.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: fishlord on October 01, 2004, 12:42:00 PM
no one had said integra yet... i would have loved an integra when i was 17.

and it probably depends where you live on if your insurance is going to go up or not.  and you parents should only know if the car is registered to them... if it is then you are fucked and i am almost positive that they would be notified.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: Rylinkus on October 01, 2004, 08:58:00 PM
QUOTE (fishlord @ Oct 1 2004, 08:45 PM)
no one had said integra yet... i would have loved an integra when i was 17.

and it probably depends where you live on if your insurance is going to go up or not.  and you parents should only know if the car is registered to them... if it is then you are fucked and i am almost positive that they would be notified.

I believe I said Integra.  wink.gif

That FD wouldnt be bad were it not for the wing.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: fishlord on October 01, 2004, 09:55:00 PM
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Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jesterrace777 on October 02, 2004, 02:09:00 AM
QUOTE (jaysoccer7c @ Sep 29 2004, 03:30 AM)
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am i stupid for liking the hyundai tiburon?

Yeah, It looks like a half-assed rip-off of a Pontiac Sunfire (POS car in and of itself).  That and Hyundais have Mitsubishi innards which is something I would never want to pay $13K for.  The RX-7 would be one sweet ride but a 3rd Generation one would be more than a little out of your price-range.  Given your price, I would give a Nissan a shot.  It might not be the two door sports coupe but I garantee you it will:  1. Have more HP than the wanna-be Sunfire.  2. Last longer than the re-badged Mitsubishi.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on October 02, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
Bullshit!

1st gen. 1979-1985
2nd gen. 1986-1991
3rd. gen. 1993-1995

If you're telling me that you can't get a 3rd gen. RX-7 for less than 13k you need to wake up.

You can get a 3rd gen. show car for 13k!
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: ipfreelyhere on October 12, 2004, 03:21:00 PM
QUOTE (jaysoccer7c @ Sep 28 2004, 11:17 PM)
I have 13,000 to spend on a used car..im 17, and i dont know shit about cars..tell me what u think is good...a link to the car on autotrader would help  wink.gif  thanks

-j

for $12,000, u can buy my car....
it is honda accord 97 se 4 drs
80000k
18" konig prophet rims
Tien adjustable springs shocks system
custom indash 7" xenarc tsv touchscreen
2 7" lcds headrests
custom pc in glove compartment
120 gigs xcuter 2.3b xbox under driver seat
intake
kendwood cd/mp3 player
450 amps
2-10" subs
fronts slot drilled rotors
spoiler
muffler
clear tail lens...
and etc....
let me know if u interested...ehehehehe...
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jesterrace777 on October 12, 2004, 08:37:00 PM
QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Oct 2 2004, 09:26 PM)
Bullshit!

1st gen. 1979-1985
2nd gen. 1986-1991
3rd. gen. 1993-1995

If you're telling me that you can't get a 3rd gen. RX-7 for less than 13k you need to wake up.

You can get a 3rd gen. show car for 13k!

I need to wake up????  So do you.  Being an RX-7 owner I know a thing or two about them.  Anyone who knows anything about RX-7s will tell you that there is a world of difference between 1st/2nd Generation RX-7s and 3rd Generation RX-7s.  1st and 2nd Generation RX-7s are a dime a dozen.  3rd Generation RX-7s were produced in much smaller quantities.  In fact the only year where there were a significant number of 3rd Generation RX-7s were produced was 1993.  1994 still had quite a few but not nearly as many and 1995 3rd Generation RX-7s are quite rare indeed (at least here in the US).  Yes you can get a 3rd Generation RX-7 for less than $13K but in showroom condition?  I think not.  For less than 13K you are going to get one with VERY high miles on the engine and the TT 3rd Generation Rotary engines aren't known for lasting long, so you will have to invest in a replacement motor before too long after buying it.  $15K is about the current pricetag I have seen for a 3rd Generation RX-7 in really good condition and for a show car you are looking between $18-$20K for starters.

Here is what a recent search turned up at autotrader.  There are RX-7s at $13K or less but none of them are in what would be considered showroom condition.  A few of them have re-built engines but that doesn't mean much.  The average cost of these RX-7s on autotrader was over $16K.  You still want to tell me you could get a show car for $13K or less?  Also keep in mind that this was a nation-wide search so the odds of even finding a 3rd generation RX-7 with low mileage (or a new motor) at $13K or less nearby is pretty remote:

http://www.autotrade...&first_record=1
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on October 13, 2004, 04:19:00 AM
I've been looking for a car myself, but a bigger vehicle, and no American crap.

I used to have a Toyota Camry 1992 LE, but it's way too small for me.

Are there bigger vehicles, that have more room for the passengers, but as well as the vehicle?

Because some of the stuff I've been seeing lately are just big, and they have the same interior space as a Toyota, or BMW.

Plus, I've never driven stick, so I kinda like Automatic.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on October 13, 2004, 05:36:00 AM
QUOTE (jesterrace777 @ Oct 13 2004, 04:40 AM)
I need to wake up????  So do you.  Being an RX-7 owner I know a thing or two about them.  Anyone who knows anything about RX-7s will tell you that there is a world of difference between 1st/2nd Generation RX-7s and 3rd Generation RX-7s.  1st and 2nd Generation RX-7s are a dime a dozen.  3rd Generation RX-7s were produced in much smaller quantities.  In fact the only year where there were a significant number of 3rd Generation RX-7s were produced was 1993.  1994 still had quite a few but not nearly as many and 1995 3rd Generation RX-7s are quite rare indeed (at least here in the US).  Yes you can get a 3rd Generation RX-7 for less than $13K but in showroom condition?  I think not.  For less than 13K you are going to get one with VERY high miles on the engine and the TT 3rd Generation Rotary engines aren't known for lasting long, so you will have to invest in a replacement motor before too long after buying it.  $15K is about the current pricetag I have seen for a 3rd Generation RX-7 in really good condition and for a show car you are looking between $18-$20K for starters.

Here is what a recent search turned up at autotrader.  There are RX-7s at $13K or less but none of them are in what would be considered showroom condition.  A few of them have re-built engines but that doesn't mean much.  The average cost of these RX-7s on autotrader was over $16K.  You still want to tell me you could get a show car for $13K or less?  Also keep in mind that this was a nation-wide search so the odds of even finding a 3rd generation RX-7 with low mileage (or a new motor) at $13K or less nearby is pretty remote:

http://www.autotrade...&first_record=1

You can get a sweet RX-7 for 13K, it's not my fault you stick to high priced car sites.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jesterrace777 on October 14, 2004, 12:47:00 AM
You want to show me where?
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on October 15, 2004, 02:34:00 PM
Yes, it's called internet... One page is called eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...4&category=6327

Buy now 11k. Carbon hood..

No RX-7s with vinyl atm, but just peak back in a couple of days.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: Rylinkus on October 15, 2004, 10:43:00 PM
QUOTE (DOS4GW @ Oct 15 2004, 10:37 PM)
Yes, it's called internet... One page is called eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/...4&category=6327

Buy now 11k. Carbon hood..

No RX-7s with vinyl atm, but just peak back in a couple of days.

"THIS CAR HAS A SALVAGE TITLE FROM MD WITH THEFT RECOVERY"
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on October 15, 2004, 10:50:00 PM
QUOTE (Rylinkus @ Oct 16 2004, 06:46 AM)
"THIS CAR HAS A SALVAGE TITLE FROM MD WITH THEFT RECOVERY"

And what's wrong with that? The car is still 100% smooth.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jesterrace777 on October 16, 2004, 01:53:00 AM
laugh.gif   Let's consider the facts here:  1.  Most of those prices you see on ebay motors are auction prices (you never know how high the bidding will go).  2.  Unless you live in one of the major cities in the U.S. the liklihood of finding a 3rd generation RX-7 in your area on ebaymotors is pretty remote.  3. To go along with #2 you then have to factor in shipping costs if it is out of your area or the prospect of flying out to get the car and then taking the long journey home.  4.  To go along with #2 and #3 you are buying the car sight unseen without having the chance for you or an experienced mechanic to look over the car with a fine-tooth comb and see what is really wrong with it.  5.  As mentioned above it is a salvage title.  This could mean anything.  The car could've been wrecked, caught fire, ect.  and I don't care what anyone says once any of those things happen to a car, it never runs the same afterwards no matter what you do to it.  So once again.  $15-$16K for an RX-7 in good condition (never been wrecked and redone by some Ghetto wannabe racer).
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: dj_sensations on October 16, 2004, 09:19:00 AM
Wake up and buy a SRT 4

and whoever said a 300zx wont land you alot of cash is full of shit. The Twin turbo kit for that car is 13 000 Alone. (Thats of course if you dont find one Twin Turbo)

For that much cash you can buy a SRT 4, and throw a few mods in it
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jesterrace777 on October 16, 2004, 12:04:00 PM
True but the 300ZX will last longer.  The SRT4s are great looking cars and have the power and performance but Mitsubishi engines are NOT known for their integrity.  I wouldn't be surprised if my Rotary Engine lasts longer than the POS Mitsubishi Engine that I had in my first car (Dodge Colt).
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on October 17, 2004, 10:44:00 AM
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1.  Most of those prices you see on ebay motors are auction prices (you never know how high the bidding will go).


Most of the autions? I'm not talking of those, I'm talking of "buy now" aucations, and if you can't figure the price then, it's not my problem.

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2.  Unless you live in one of the major cities in the U.S. the liklihood of finding a 3rd generation RX-7 in your area on ebaymotors is pretty remote


If you rather pay 3k more for a local one this kind of sets the standard...


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3. To go along with #2 you then have to factor in shipping costs if it is out of your area or the prospect of flying out to get the car and then taking the long journey home.


Maybe you should look at the prices before you pretend to know about them. To compare I looked at a 23ft new power boat. It would cost $2500 to ship it from Orlando to Norway...

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4.  To go along with #2 and #3 you are buying the car sight unseen without having the chance for you or an experienced mechanic to look over the car with a fine-tooth comb and see what is really wrong with it.


This is wrong. You can buy it and if it's not as described you can cancel the trade.

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5.  As mentioned above it is a salvage title.  This could mean anything.  The car could've been wrecked, caught fire, ect.  and I don't care what anyone says once any of those things happen to a car, it never runs the same afterwards no matter what you do to it.  So once again.  $15-$16K for an RX-7 in good condition (never been wrecked and redone by some Ghetto wannabe racer).


Omg. It says salvage title due to theft!
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: fishlord on October 17, 2004, 10:11:00 PM
Yes it says due to theft... when someone steals a car they dont generally drive it ever so gently up and down the block once, then park it i a heated garage and drive away.

and about the dodge colt... what was wrong with the engine??  did you forget to change your timing belt on time?
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jesterrace777 on October 17, 2004, 10:46:00 PM
QUOTE (fishlord @ Oct 18 2004, 06:14 AM)
Yes it says due to theft... when someone steals a car they dont generally drive it ever so gently up and down the block once, then park it i a heated garage and drive away.

and about the dodge colt... what was wrong with the engine??  did you forget to change your timing belt on time?

Nah, like most Mitsubishis beyond 100,000 miles it was burning oil faster than I could keep it in it.  I kid you not.  I literally went through about 2 quarts of oil per week on that car.  @DOS4GW the transportation/shipping costs could still narrow the price a fair bit.  I also recognize the difference between a regular auction and buy it now.  I was just pointing out that you are severely limiting your options there  (3rd Generation RX-7s on ebaymotors with the buy it now option).  As far as you comments about canceling the trade if it is not as described, yeah right.  How do you recover your shipping costs (to and from) in such a situation?  Also, I seriously doubt a seller is going to offer a refund on a car that is almost 10 years old.  In addition I realize it was a theft salvage title.  I was simply pointing out that Salvage in general is not something that is in your favor as a buyer.  As mentioned above, theft recovery vehicles tend to recieve well more than their fair share of abuse.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on October 18, 2004, 12:56:00 AM
You take a weekend trip and check the car out. If it is as described, no troubble. If it's not you can walk away from the deal, or demand a better price.

Once the car is checked out you can do some shopping and hit the town.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jesterrace777 on October 19, 2004, 11:07:00 PM
A few of those weekend trips and you are going to negate any savings you would have over finding one in good condition locally.  I'm not saying you can't find a better deal.  I am just saying that you make it sound like anybody could easily get a 3rd Generation RX-7 car in showroom condition for $13K or less.  You can get one at that price if you are lucky but I certainly wouldn't count on it.  That and I don't know of a single person who would consider a theft recovery vehicle in showroom condition, no matter how much they fixed it up.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: DOS4GW on October 20, 2004, 03:16:00 PM
That doesn't make any sence to me.

If someone steal this:

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And it's found again, it will still be the same car (if it's not smashed up).
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: Rylinkus on October 20, 2004, 03:22:00 PM
If it's got a salvage title of any sort the cars value is generally diminissed. Meaning insuring may be an issue and reselling it may be as well. And I hate the hood on the RX7 shown.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jesterrace777 on October 30, 2004, 06:52:00 PM
QUOTE (CamJ256 @ Oct 30 2004, 09:06 PM)
im not bothering to see if this has been said yet

but DUHHHH

firebird/transam/z28Camaro

cheap and fast and looks hella sexy...


you wont get made fun of for having a ricer or rice either.

No but for the fact you used the term "hella" , you yourself might get labeled as a ricer.   laugh.gif
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: browndanielusn on November 02, 2004, 05:18:00 AM
i paid 16k for my scion tc.  i love it.  it's brand new, cool options

http://www.scion.com...tc_gallery.html

i don't have pics of my car but this shows you all the options, etc.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: fishlord on November 03, 2004, 12:59:00 AM
QUOTE (CamJ256 @ Oct 30 2004, 09:06 PM)
im not bothering to see if this has been said yet

but DUHHHH

firebird/transam/z28Camaro

cheap and fast and looks hella sexy...



those have not been sexy since like the 60's and no u wouldnt be labeled as a ricer, but u stand a pretty good chance of getting labeled a redneck.
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: jaysoccer7c on November 10, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
how hard is it to learn to drive manual? any good websites that give very detailed instructions and tips?
Title: 13k On A Car
Post by: Mommy8me on November 10, 2004, 04:04:00 PM
I think the best way to learn to drive manual is to find someone who knows how to drive manual- first watch them, then let them instruct you from the passenger seat in a parking lot.  Then, when you feel comfortable, get on the road.

I just googled it, this site looks decent:
Manual Transmission Instructions