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Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: * illusion * on August 19, 2003, 09:26:00 AM
You had to of signed on with your chip or modified game saves, etc......
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: shanafan on August 19, 2003, 09:32:00 AM
QUOTE
There's something strange going on here.
So the freakin rumors are true after all....

Well the rumors are true. Accessing Live with your modchip on will get you banned.  wink.gif
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: * illusion * on August 19, 2003, 04:49:00 PM
No I went on Live with my chip off and got banned. I got banned from hacking PSO files though  rolleyes.gif
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: shanafan on August 19, 2003, 06:40:00 PM
QUOTE (* illusion * @ Aug 19 2003, 08:49 PM)
No I went on Live with my chip off and got banned. I got banned from hacking PSO files though  rolleyes.gif

He said he plays Mechassault and Capcom vs SNK. I don't think there are hacked files out for those games.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: * illusion * on August 19, 2003, 07:52:00 PM
^ I was answering this:

QUOTE
Ok I guess I'm the first one to go down by accessing Xbox live with my chip turned off....
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: rzyzzy on August 19, 2003, 08:27:00 PM
did you sell your old hard disc?  Maybe someone ripped the eeprom off your old disc ( config magic and evox both make backups)  - and got you banned...
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: FawnTheGuyver on August 20, 2003, 05:09:00 AM
phone support ask them what it is
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: travazz on August 20, 2003, 03:51:00 PM
miggidy, that cant be it. because this month in the official XBM they have that level downloadable from the CD.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: miggidy on August 20, 2003, 09:41:00 PM
Doh! grr.gif
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Mad_Gouki on August 21, 2003, 12:20:00 AM
hmm, if you didnt do anything bannable you should call tech support and demand your accound be fixed or soemthing...
i bet if you annoy them enough they will give in!
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: ahw on August 21, 2003, 03:13:00 AM
Just a thought: I recently got a copy of Project Gotham Racing on the Classics range (2 for £30 at Game).  I played it without my chip on in a normal profile.  I got a few read errors with the disc so I turned the chip on and created a new cheating profile so I could play Cone Attack (sometimes I get less errors with the chip on, go figure).

Today, with the chip off, PGR won't let me play the cheat profile with my chip off - it says TV Mode 60Hz.  I run a PAL machine with the PAL video mode on, apparently in 50Hz (I forgot when I reset my eeprom I had to change the videomode back).  Anyway, the point is PGR locked me out of the game because it thought I was using a foreign game save.

2 points for the conspiracy theorists:

1. Have the Classics been modified for this to happen?
2. Would Live check game saves for any game to check they've been hacked, even non-Live games...?

Hmmmmm..........  uhh.gif
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: ahw on August 22, 2003, 03:28:00 AM
Yeah I was kind of aiming for humour/sarcasm there as it goes.  Guess I missed the mark...
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on August 22, 2003, 06:48:00 AM
The only case, I could apply this to, would be Wolfenstein and PSO. The nimrods who change the system's name to something diffrent, will make you show up like white on black.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: ChrisF on August 22, 2003, 09:15:00 AM
You've been banned for 4 days and you have yet to call tech support?  Why bother troubleshooting and wondering about it?  All you have to do is ask why you are banned.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: CraiZEAH on August 22, 2003, 08:57:00 PM
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Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Schlauge on August 23, 2003, 07:53:00 AM
QUOTE (steveshit @ Aug 23 2003, 11:08 AM)
he is not the only one with this problem. I got the same prob. Last Thursday I was trying to get online with the modchip deffintely turned off and I was banned aswell. I am using a apple3x modchip and do not have any hacked files on my harddisk. I heared some rumors that MS scans your harddisk and then check it to see if there is anything different about it. Myh problem is solved my buying a new xbox so I do not have to worry again.
But there must be more players who have this problem. Maybe MS is starting a big investigation!!!!

This seems like the only explanation. All MS would have to do is set up a quick scan when you enter live to see if anything is out of the ordinary (like extra files in the c directory)  dry.gif
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: andrusk on August 23, 2003, 11:25:00 PM
well if thats the case i need to get evox off of the c drive!
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: assmonkey on August 23, 2003, 11:42:00 PM
what if they scan for a partion 6(F:)
then ya fu(ked
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: shanafan on August 24, 2003, 12:00:00 AM
QUOTE (assmonkey @ Aug 24 2003, 03:42 AM)
what if they scan for a partion 6(F:)
then ya fu(ked

Which MS does not do right now, so no worries.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Cartman40 on August 25, 2003, 01:22:00 PM
I got Xbox Live yesterday and was playing fine and having a good time. This morning I turned it on and lo and behold i was banned!

The switch was still off, I just don't get it. Any ideas? Or more importantly, what the hell can I do about it?!!
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: bho76 on August 25, 2003, 01:28:00 PM
well, not much sense in putting a new eeprom in then huh? MIght as well just get a new box for live only... No biggie i guess considering how much $ i have saved using evox!!
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: shanafan on August 25, 2003, 06:09:00 PM
QUOTE (steveshit @ Aug 24 2003, 06:35 AM)
I read somewhere in this forum that MS only checks the c: and d: drive but i am not sure of that

Xbox Live doesn't do a HD scan, yet.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: bearauto on August 26, 2003, 11:19:00 PM
Yeah, you guys who got banned, do you have evox in your xbox HD?
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: heinrich on August 27, 2003, 12:42:00 AM
Ok guys, lets think he for a second.....

If MS started HD scans, that would mean that a new dash on the xbox to do these scans with.  Have anyone one of you claiming to me all of sudden banned, updated your dash?  I think not.  So its very clear that HD scans is not what is getting people banned.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: * illusion * on August 27, 2003, 12:52:00 PM
I'm on right now. M$ will probably just tell you your banned because if they were scanning they wouldnt want people to know.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Ces2k3 on August 27, 2003, 01:01:00 PM
well i think every one should just make evox boot in f,by the way where i can find a tut on this i tried serching
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: shanafan on August 27, 2003, 01:45:00 PM
QUOTE (Ces2k3 @ Aug 27 2003, 05:01 PM)
well i think every one should just make evox boot in f,by the way where i can find a tut on this i tried serching

Use XBTool to edit your BIOS to boot the XBE off the F drive  cool.gif
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Ces2k3 on August 27, 2003, 03:48:00 PM
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Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: shanafan on August 27, 2003, 04:39:00 PM
QUOTE (Ces2k3 @ Aug 27 2003, 07:48 PM)
thanks shanafan but i knew that, but is there any thing else i need to do(ie: chage any ini files,and what files are the ones i need to send to f?)the bios part is easy i would just like a nice step by step way of doing it .so if u know exactly  how to do it im sure more than enough people will like to know how to do it . thanks oh great shanafan tongue.gif

Just open your BIOS in XBTool and change the default drive path, entitled "Boot Partitions" in XBTool, to your F drive. That is it  smile.gif

So, put evoxdash.xbe in your F drive and I THINK evox.ini can stay in C:, but that I am not positive about that.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: ChrisF on August 27, 2003, 08:43:00 PM
So all you guys spent $50 and bought a Live kit.  Your account shows up as banned and you weren't running a modchip or non-MS bios.  Yet not a single one of you calls them and asks what the deal is?  You purchased a service and you have a legal right to it.  If they deny you service they have to explain exactly why you are being denied.  If you aren't willing to stand up for yourselves and at least get an explanation you deserve to have your games and money taken away.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Ces2k3 on August 28, 2003, 06:30:00 AM
well im not banned but im trying to prevent the drama in bitching at m$ for a reason why they banned me.why take the risk in getting banned if i can prevent it
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: loupham on August 28, 2003, 08:42:00 AM
i too got ban from playing live .. evertime i sign on i know the chameleon is off ... my evox stuff is on the f drive ... I think its when i was playing ghost recon off the backup ... the game was signing on to live for some reason ... just redid the eeprom yesterday and trying again ... but this time, i'm disconnecting the network cable when i'm not using live ... let see what happen in the next few days
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Ces2k3 on August 28, 2003, 08:46:00 AM
wink.gif   i dont have no xbox live games back up in fear of the new dash,i only back up games that are not xbox live at all just tp prevent the drama
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Ces2k3 on August 28, 2003, 09:29:00 AM
im talking about when the new live 2.0 comes out
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: heinrich on August 29, 2003, 10:15:00 AM
QUOTE (Ces2k3 @ Aug 28 2003, 01:29 PM)
im talking about when the new live 2.0 comes out

Well, its not out, so its obvious that everyone did something to get banned, and MS is not scanning hard drives.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: ChrisF on August 29, 2003, 12:41:00 PM
QUOTE (bearauto @ Aug 28 2003, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE (ChrisF @ Aug 27 2003, 08:43 PM)
So all you guys spent $50 and bought a Live kit.  Your account shows up as banned and you weren't running a modchip or non-MS bios.  Yet not a single one of you calls them and asks what the deal is?  You purchased a service and you have a legal right to it.  If they deny you service they have to explain exactly why you are being denied.  If you aren't willing to stand up for yourselves and at least get an explanation you deserve to have your games and money taken away.

The point is that they all had evox installed on their hard drive...that's sufficient evidence of modding.

Anyway, I'm wondering if a non-live game can detect that it's being played with a backup (i.e., the modchip is on) and then report in the next time you DO connect on live.  Crazy idea, but why not?

Well then let them call MS and ask for a reason.  MS has to give it to them - you can't deny service owed to someone without a reason.  We don't have any idea why they were banned and neither do they.  All they have to do is ask.  

I sincerely doubt MS is harddrive scanning but any answer MS provides will obviously save many more people from being banned.  I don't even care - I don't use Live - I can't believe that not a single person has the sack to make a phone call and ask for a reason.  A 5 minute call would shed infinitely more light on the situation and possibly prevent others here from being banned.  Are they afraid that some $5 an hour phone rep at MS is going to bitch at them?  That's a customer service job, they can't yell or scold (if this is what you and everyone else is afraid of because you "modded your xbox").  But, they can give you an actual reason and they are obligated to do so.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: shanafan on August 29, 2003, 01:12:00 PM
Yes, MS is very helpful on the phone, even when I had a controller problem
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: miggidy on August 29, 2003, 09:58:00 PM
I'll call Billy G. tomorrow.
I've been very busy as of late....

I'll let you guys know what happens, hope the fuckers don't ask me to send my Xbox over.....

Just to let you guys know, I have Evox installed using Slayers Installer.
Not sure where the installer, installs it.


Depending on what I can work out with Billy,
I'll try installing a new Eeprom on my hdd.
Now if I get banned again, then you guys know there's definately something going on....
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: miggidy on August 29, 2003, 10:17:00 PM
QUOTE (bearauto @ Aug 28 2003, 04:35 PM)
The point is that they all had evox installed on their hard drive...that's sufficient evidence of modding.

Anyway, I'm wondering if a non-live game can detect that it's being played with a backup (i.e., the modchip is on) and then report in the next time you DO connect on live.  Crazy idea, but why not?

I'm wondering the same thing bro.
I play Meccassault quite often while I'm offline.
With the chip both enabled or disabled.



Fuck! I just remembered that my Xbox Live had been actin up in the days leading to me getting banned.
I had problems logging onto Live because Live's servers couldn't recognise my Xbox's IP address. The only way I could get connected was to go into the connection settings in the Live dash and change the IP connection detection settings to "automatic"....

It worked this way for 2 days until I was eventually banned.
I'm wonderin if anyone else who was banned experienced this same shit....
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: bearauto on August 30, 2003, 12:26:00 AM
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Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: shanafan on August 30, 2003, 12:29:00 AM
QUOTE (bearauto @ Aug 30 2003, 04:26 AM)
I don't understand how people are getting banned when they never accessed LIVE with modchip ON... uhh.gif

Too much of this:

beerchug.gif

I have been using my modded Xbox with this current EEPROM since December. Haven't been banned yet, and I am careful.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: bearauto on August 30, 2003, 11:47:00 AM
QUOTE (shanafan @ Aug 30 2003, 12:29 AM)
QUOTE (bearauto @ Aug 30 2003, 04:26 AM)
I don't understand how people are getting banned when they never accessed LIVE with modchip ON... uhh.gif

Too much of this:

beerchug.gif

I have been using my modded Xbox with this current EEPROM since December. Haven't been banned yet, and I am careful.

LOL well, all I know is, my network cable is NOT plugged in...if I want to go LIVE, I'll plug it in and make sure my modchip is off.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: fewl` on August 30, 2003, 11:52:00 AM
QUOTE (bearauto @ Aug 30 2003, 08:47 PM)
QUOTE (shanafan @ Aug 30 2003, 12:29 AM)
QUOTE (bearauto @ Aug 30 2003, 04:26 AM)
I don't understand how people are getting banned when they never accessed LIVE with modchip ON... uhh.gif

Too much of this:

beerchug.gif

I have been using my modded Xbox with this current EEPROM since December. Haven't been banned yet, and I am careful.

LOL well, all I know is, my network cable is NOT plugged in...if I want to go LIVE, I'll plug it in and make sure my modchip is off.

Yup I also do the same, unplug it after I finish playing xbl
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: xVanWildeRx on September 01, 2003, 12:54:00 PM
so have any one of you guys who were banned called MS? they can and will tell you why you were banned, if you are forceful enough with them. like the other said, you paid for the service, and they have to explain to you why you were banned. period.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: RMF on September 01, 2003, 02:54:00 PM
I tried calling them when i was bannedand eventually i got them to tell me that my xbox was banned because it was modified. When i denied any knowledge of it and confirmed that i had bought the xbox brand new at launch they offered to take my xbox in for free to check if there was a problem with the xbox itself that could cause their servers to belive it was modified. Needless to say, i said "thanks, but no thanks".

Good luck.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: Sir Auros on September 01, 2003, 08:15:00 PM
Hey, how's about posting in this thread? That way we can start seeing the consistency or who's full of bullshit or is just a dumbass who got his ass banned for doing something ignorant.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: assmonkey on September 01, 2003, 08:35:00 PM
QUOTE
Yes, MS is very helpful on the phone, even when I had a controller problem
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: RMF on September 02, 2003, 12:24:00 AM
Well i had a spare eeprom at the time anyway. I just wanted to see what they would say, and there is no way in hell that they will unban you once they know you have your xbox modified, so calling them up is a complete waste of time.
Title: They Banned Me From Xbox Live! Why?
Post by: PM5K on September 02, 2003, 12:42:00 AM
I have a question about that audio clip though, what the hell were they going to do for him, I mean the dog ate the controller cord....