Post by: CrakkedOut on November 27, 2005, 03:03:00 PM
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Well sort of ...
I was messing around with the Media Extender interface on the X360, and noticed that the "More Programs" linked to a couple of apps installed on my PC as part of the Media Center Package, including MS Instant Messenger and some other stuff. All of these run when you access them from the 360 Media Extender client. The 360 essentially seems to act as a dumb terminal, interfacing with the application running on the PC.
Here's where things really get interesting: It's apparently very easy to integrate Windows applications into the MCE "More Programs" tab. All you have to do is build a link in a format specified by MS and do some minor optimization, and the app will run in MCE. Here is how MS describes the process of building games for MCE: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...vgameswinmc.asp
So I downloaded a couple of apps and installed them on MCE, switched over to the 360, and lo and behold, most of them run perfectly. I was able to run apps with modified browsers to pull down news stories, stock quotes, sports scores etc., as well as several Internet Radio clients.
I also tried installing a couple of shareware games, including a Tetris clone and some card games. Interestingly, they all launch on the 360, but crash soon afterwards. My guess is that you could get them to run with some optimization. There even is a MAME emu for MCE out there, though I haven't tried to install it.
My guess is that it will be difficult to get anything other than simple casual games to run in real time using the interface, due to lag in response times. But I would think getting something like a full web browser up and running should be achievable.
I was messing around with the Media Extender interface on the X360, and noticed that the "More Programs" linked to a couple of apps installed on my PC as part of the Media Center Package, including MS Instant Messenger and some other stuff. All of these run when you access them from the 360 Media Extender client. The 360 essentially seems to act as a dumb terminal, interfacing with the application running on the PC.
Here's where things really get interesting: It's apparently very easy to integrate Windows applications into the MCE "More Programs" tab. All you have to do is build a link in a format specified by MS and do some minor optimization, and the app will run in MCE. Here is how MS describes the process of building games for MCE: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...vgameswinmc.asp
So I downloaded a couple of apps and installed them on MCE, switched over to the 360, and lo and behold, most of them run perfectly. I was able to run apps with modified browsers to pull down news stories, stock quotes, sports scores etc., as well as several Internet Radio clients.
I also tried installing a couple of shareware games, including a Tetris clone and some card games. Interestingly, they all launch on the 360, but crash soon afterwards. My guess is that you could get them to run with some optimization. There even is a MAME emu for MCE out there, though I haven't tried to install it.
My guess is that it will be difficult to get anything other than simple casual games to run in real time using the interface, due to lag in response times. But I would think getting something like a full web browser up and running should be achievable.
source - http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=73324ww
is there a reason why we cant post pics from i.mageshack???? the pics of this running is up at that site
Post by: JMPovoa on November 27, 2005, 06:31:00 PM
Post by: fireflier on November 27, 2005, 06:46:00 PM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on November 27, 2005, 10:08:00 PM
Post by: LastRitz on November 27, 2005, 10:15:00 PM
This post has been edited by LastRitz: Nov 28 2005, 06:17 AM
Post by: pepe2004 on November 27, 2005, 10:12:00 PM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on November 27, 2005, 10:12:00 PM
QUOTE(LastRitz @ Nov 28 2005, 04:15 PM) 
disable internet connection in MCE, not xbox connection MS might patch this quick
why would they? from what i understand, the app is run from teh media centre pc, and the screen output is send via the network to the 360. all of the commands entered are then relayed back to the media centre pc for execution.
so there is absolutley no way this could be a way to hack into the 360.
its like remote control of a pc. ever done that?
Post by: TMG8 on November 27, 2005, 10:26:00 PM
Wow this is great!
Post by: krawhitham on November 27, 2005, 10:27:00 PM
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Nov 28 2005, 06:19 AM)
why would they? from what i understand, the app is run from teh media centre pc, and the screen output is send via the network to the 360. all of the commands entered are then relayed back to the media centre pc for execution.
so there is absolutley no way this could be a way to hack into the 360.
its like remote control of a pc. ever done that?
the program runs on the PC, and the out put is on the xbox, correct?
would a divx/xvid player work?
Post by: samsbak on November 27, 2005, 10:39:00 PM
awesome...just awesome..this is what they meant by "homrbrew friendly" ...this is so cool...its like widgets on mac osx 10.4 but with optimizations we will have Zinc and other emulators running in no time!
Thanx for the heads up...this is a Special day for Emulator fans...wonder if it can run Star wars trilogy!
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Post by: kics on November 28, 2005, 12:06:00 AM
QUOTE(pepe2004 @ Nov 27 2005, 08:19 PM)
What an amasing HDTV, I have envy
that's the first thing i noticed.... the size of the tv compared to the xbox... damn!!!
Post by: flashfreak on November 28, 2005, 12:37:00 AM
Post by: revs on November 28, 2005, 01:45:00 AM
Post by: Avenger 2.0 on November 28, 2005, 01:57:00 AM
Post by: Dannydeman on November 28, 2005, 03:33:00 AM
Ahh well, i dont care yet...XBMC is good enough for now.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on November 28, 2005, 03:56:00 AM
QUOTE(Dannydeman @ Nov 28 2005, 09:40 PM)
Ahh well, i dont care yet...XBMC is good enough for now.
sure is. the media centre part of the 360 will be better though.
what i want to see (after is is hacked), is a 'custom' x360 media centre. it gives a good platform for level competition between ms and open-source.
Post by: ksteiner on November 28, 2005, 06:57:00 AM
Post by: death trap on November 28, 2005, 07:21:00 AM
Someone would need to code a program like the internet radio app we have already seen but stream the media from a local machine using videolan.
For those of you how dont know what videolan is check here
Post by: mbratton on November 28, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
DivX/Xvid is very possible, just look for the app and make the profile, just like Rhindle said.
I smell homebrew dashboards and media centers just around the corner...
Post by: CancerBoy on November 28, 2005, 10:36:00 AM
Post by: ornerybuzzard on November 28, 2005, 11:38:00 AM
Maybe find a USERNAME/PASSWORD/PORT# for say flash fxP.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START TO GETTING IN THE BOX
Post by: crudman on November 28, 2005, 12:19:00 PM
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Can somone try to find out how to ftp into the xbox using the the media center pc.
Maybe find a USERNAME/PASSWORD/PORT# for say flash fxP.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START TO GETTING IN THE BOX
Maybe find a USERNAME/PASSWORD/PORT# for say flash fxP.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START TO GETTING IN THE BOX
OMG LOLZ GOOD IDEA?!!!!ONE HUZZAH 4 THE INTARWEBS!!!1111one!etwothree
Post by: anthrt on November 28, 2005, 01:05:00 PM
Post by: incognegro on November 28, 2005, 02:12:00 PM
QUOTE(anthrt @ Nov 28 2005, 09:12 PM)
why is everyone calling this an exploit? its obviously been put there intentionally.
My thoughts exactly......
Post by: DarkSky Forever on November 28, 2005, 03:07:00 PM
Post by: CattyKid on November 28, 2005, 03:28:00 PM
Post by: bho76 on November 28, 2005, 03:58:00 PM
Post by: lilbplaya3406 on November 28, 2005, 06:52:00 PM
Post by: LastRitz on November 28, 2005, 08:15:00 PM
Also can someone put that .xex file in the MCE folder where it looks for messenger etc please
this would be a little help in gaining some knowledge
REMEMBER when we all put are damn heads together shit gets done faster, that is the beauty of the internet...
Post by: CancerBoy on November 28, 2005, 09:11:00 PM
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What potential would that be? You'd be better off just getting a TV-Out adapter for your PC, so the response time wouldn't lag. Just because its going through the 360 doesn't make it some how any better. All the 360 is doing is taking the output and running it to your TV! Its just a $400 TV-Out adapter!
Who knows what the potential will be. I'm just looking forward to what might happen is all. If you disagree that is fine, only time will tell.
Post by: krawhitham on November 28, 2005, 10:16:00 PM
Are you going to buy (or have you already bought) an Xbox 360?
maybe they are planing to release legit divx drivers for the 360
Post by: scooby_dooby on November 28, 2005, 11:40:00 PM
QUOTE(DarkSky Forever @ Nov 29 2005, 03:16 AM)
What potential would that be? You'd be better off just getting a TV-Out adapter for your PC, so the response time wouldn't lag. Just because its going through the 360 doesn't make it some how any better. All the 360 is doing is taking the output and running it to your TV! Its just a $400 TV-Out adapter!
Umm no. Not unless you want to buy 20foot long component cables.
With X360 you can run a network cable, stream it digitally, then output over component cables. No need to spend a ridiculous amount of money on extremely long component cables, and much better image quality than composite.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on November 29, 2005, 04:05:00 AM
QUOTE(krawhitham @ Nov 29 2005, 04:23 PM)
the poll question on DIVX.com is
Are you going to buy (or have you already bought) an Xbox 360?
maybe they are planing to release legit divx drivers for the 360
now that is interestign news indeed. it is not much to go on, but we can hope.
it would be good if they could strike a deal with m$ so that we can watch divx movies on the 360...
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on November 29, 2005, 08:53:00 PM
but jfoster's right, we can get some interestign things to happen
Post by: ShadowElitePro on December 03, 2005, 07:16:00 PM
Post by: tijir on February 09, 2006, 11:11:00 PM
http://www.runtime360.com/
Forum is here http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=488108
Post by: rSK on October 08, 2006, 08:10:00 AM
Post by: MattyT on October 31, 2006, 02:45:00 AM
XNA all the way.....
Post by: Supaninja_br on July 04, 2008, 10:59:00 AM
Post by: StrictPuppet on July 04, 2008, 10:27:00 PM
Closed.