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Likklebaer

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« on: October 26, 2009, 04:55:00 AM »

For those that aren't aware, seems kenshiro has abandoned work on FBA-XXX Pro:

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Hi,

I started this topic to notice i will definitly stop to work on FBA-XXX Pro.

I had this idea months ago, time is come to make her effective. I'll be short on the reasons, no need to write 300 lines.

First one, it's now clear for me that leading a project who isn't my project is really stupid lol. By leading the project i had to deal with my own bugs, which is not a problem, the problem is i have to deal with the bugs who were already in it when i started my work. Bugs in HD support, in some inputs whatever. I'm not blaming people who were working on it, that's not the purpose, i just mean i don't wanna be annoying for that, and people have no remorse to do it. As i'm leading the project too, a lot of people believe i'm the man behind everything. They never heard about Lantus, Gogoackman and also +T+. I don't wanna get the credits for something who is not for at least 90% my work, it will be too easy.

Second one, the work who have been done is 100% drivers related. With the help of iq_132, we try to port the latest and more accurate drivers from the official FBA. Some systems has required a looooot of work, i think to Neogeo and PGM for example, and all drivers who need a VMM as Cave, Psikyo, Asura Blade, CPS2. Now just help me to understand:

- Why the section "others" always cause problems. Crash when entering games, when exiting games, when entering in game menu. Why half of Sega drivers doesn't draw, why Bio Mechanical Toy draws garbage etc... Long time ago i was thinking the problem comes from me, but it's definitly not the case.

- Why launching a Neogeo game will cause 50% of times a crash when launching a game in "others" section (randomly BTW...). I'm 100% sure there's no leak in the Neogeo code, some people have a try with that code in their own builds and didn't get that kind of problems. I know i already noticed that in the 1.28, and FBA-XXX (so the problem comes from that one).

Regarding to this problems, i started some massive core cleanup few months ago, starting by removing useless files (30% of the FBA-XXX sources files, nice!) and take a look in the UI and options code. I give up two days after, as i understood immediatly i will do nothing. That's simple, i can't even read some parts of code. So modify something will probably results in much problems. i think there is a huge difference between writing a code and get it work, and writing a code in a way - which allows people to read it and understand it easily, and allows them to update it in the future. At this point FBA-XXX is pretty much a nightmare.

Last point, a large amount of latest FBA drivers use a different Z80 than before, the MAME Z80. So porting this one is necessary to get run a lot of games. At this point, i can't remove the old Z80 support, due to the weirdest compiling issue i ever seen. Before killing me with a rope, i sent my sources to iq_132, and he has exactly the same problem lmao. In theory what supposed to be removing - adding files to project - is now a nightmare. So adding more drivers in the future is impossible lol.

I just want to precise to you +T+ that all i'm saying it's not against you (not even against everyone lol), i know you were doing exactly what i did, working on the drivers, and you put your work in FBA-XXX as he is. It's a good emulator but the way he was writing causes too much troubles actually - so i give up.


The purpose of that topic is also to post the real things me and iq_132 have been working on, the drivers themselves, to give them to communauty, and also for those who are working on others FBA build, as Nes6502. I know you already put my Neogeo code in your build (i'm really happy of that ^^), feel free to use or not the rest as PGM, Asura Blade... And the Psikyo SH. Those one aren't include, as i don't wanna people stole them - i could send you them if you want lol.

FBA 0.297.06 ported to Xbox

Thanks to all the people who give support or help to test the games, or working on news skins:

Bonky, Garcimak, Jackc, Fumanchu, Gilou9999, Gavin19, Neoryu, Iceman, Cbagy, Neil2222, hellfury, X-Hellfury-X, Waal, Cospefogo, Tulius, Fosamax, stf, bulge2, OOKAMI, Chiemik, Vegita, Vegita8888, wurz3ll, Chrom, Lordpro and all those i forget here.

I think it's useless to thanks iq_132 lmao, but thanks even dude. For the motivation you gave me, your advices, your insane shit... lol

Good luck everyone.


This is sad news. But hopefully the best of kenshiro and iq_132's work will make it into nes6502's upcoming build. Thanks for helping to keep the scene alive kenshiro your work is much appreciated by everyone I'm sure!  happy.gif


And it also seems that CoinOPS has been ditched by BP:

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any more of this crap the next version will be encrypted and xmls locked and anything else I feel like into one encryted but smaller file

im so sick of so called experts telling me whats what when they have about 10percent of the understanding of whats in CoinOPS and how it works (10percent is probably wrong its more like less than 1percent of whats going on under the hood) if you dont want to listen to me and tell me whats what you can add the stuff and do it as your the expert.

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this is your guys final warning............... on this crap im already in no mood to finish R4 for you guys as it is.... as I finished it mostly weeks ago, this stuff makes me change direction away from this crap and work on my own personal build and not bother spending a few hours to sync it with a public build

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you bet.... its locked (I cant stand critisism of stuff that isnt researched or repeated time and time again)


"CoinOPS reignite R3" is the last version of CoinOPS there are plenty of experts ( that at least think they know what they are doing ) around here.

Good luck everyone

Basically seems like after leaving these forums because people here didn't kiss his arse enough, BP has finally had enough of everyone else not treating him like a god as well!  

Seriously though, even though CoinOPS was never my cup of tea, if this is true it's always sad to lose an active project since there are so few. Plus the new drivers added by iq_132 were starting to give the emulator a whole new appeal. But I don't think anyone who's familiar with BP's attitude can deny that this was bound to happen sooner or later.

This is Likklebaer for Xbox-Scene News. Back to you Vamp.
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kenshiro

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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 05:58:00 AM »

QUOTE(Likklebaer @ Oct 26 2009, 11:55 AM) View Post

But hopefully the best of kenshiro and iq_132's work will make it into nes6502's upcoming build. Thanks for helping to keep the scene alive kenshiro your work is much appreciated by everyone I'm sure!  happy.gif


Oh wait wait wait... If the Neogeo code will be in Final Burn legend, only Nes6502 knows what will be in his build. I just said he can take what he wants from my sources, that's all! That is his own decision, damm it!

Moo.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 12:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(kenshiro @ Oct 26 2009, 06:58 AM) View Post

Oh wait wait wait... If the Neogeo code will be in Final Burn legend, only Nes6502 knows what will be in his build. I just said he can take what he wants from my sources, that's all! That is his own decision, damm it!

Moo.


In that case, I hope he decides to adopt the excellent code from your latest CPS2 drivers too.  It will possibly save him some time.   biggrin.gif

Check my post to you on 1Emu.  Moooooooooo for old times sake.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 12:33:00 PM »

Oh look, I'm over here too guys!  ph34r.gif

BP didn't like the mirror I held up to him, so he ran away. I mean that metaphorically by the way. Either that or it was cba.gy's 'Eat my shorts' comment.
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neil222

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 12:58:00 PM »

Yeah, he'll be back. Either in a new thread or a poll...lol.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 01:08:00 AM »



Please dont give up.  sad.gif  

I just saw video of Showcase online. Its amazing!
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 01:37:00 AM »

Hey BP, go and crawl back under your rock and leave the adults to talk and "HELP" each each other out.
Coming here and spreading your nasty poison. Cretin.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 02:36:00 AM »

it looks alot better in HD smile.gif and its pushed on from that build

hehehe cba I know your help ...... its laughable at best, we both know it is. I should assemble a best of cba quotes with some facts beside it and people can research the true facts and see how much he actually knows. That might be good for a laugh in the downtime. Also how much he tries to push that he does actually know whats happening that would just be the cherry on the top. Oh stop it xmas is nearly though smile.gif
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 02:50:00 AM »

I drag info from the back of my mind. Its based on experience and not what i could find on Google or a Wiki.
Some of the stuff quoted about the place is from before some were born !!! So lets be honest here some "experts" dish out advice based on what they could research. Not me, if i dont know or cant help anyone i'll say so. I won't tell people to "figure it out yourself". Seeing through that phrase just means "i dont know, however im not going to admit it" One of your favourites that one.

Anyway how are you today ? Feeling fresh after a good tantrum.
I dont think you should "attempt" to punish all cause of me.
Taking your bloody ball and running. I really thought more of you than that.
I know im an annoying twa*, but honestly its just the way my comments are read.
Most of the time i write stuff with tongue in cheek and a bit of a giggle
it obviously doesnt get read in the vein it was written.
As far as writing stuff about me goes. Knock yourself out mate. I have a full life
and experienced many things, futile internet comments wont rattle me. In fact i'll probably help
as i love a good leg pull. You'll honestly not damage me in any way whatsoever.

Take Care.

PS. Sorry for derailing the topic everyone.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2009, 03:03:00 AM »

Im good just holding up facts you guys love....put your money where your mouth is
Im saying you show bad facts and stagnate growth and actively try to stop it. I think your a fake and a trouble maker. And alot of the time you think your not.

You think im a bad man but you pushed me to say exactly what I think you are and I can prove my facts.... on this matter.

At the end of the day actions speak louder than words and I think your a troller who only harms the scene going forward while actively tring to promote that your helping with advice.

but to everyone beware of a wolfs in sheeps clothing I think they are lurking everwhere at present watch what you believe and what is presented to you as facts they might be an agender or even just plan lies or newbeness sadly alot of the time

But ive said my peace now ill let you go in peace say what you want about me.... il always know and from day one till now my side at least of the events
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2009, 03:05:00 AM »

The exit didn't last long did it? Let’s get this straight. I don't use CoinOps. So I don't care one bit about its open development, secret development, releases, continuation or discontinuation. I commented over at 1emu about your personality, not 'your' emulator. I don't care about the emulator. I was commenting on your arrogant and immature attitude to people on 1emu. You didn't like that. So you closed the thread. You stormed out of the room and slammed the door, because you can't deal with intelligent criticism of your narcissistic personality. You can call me and anyone else newbe as much as you like, but it doesn't hold any water as an argument, because we're not discussing technical skills or coding issues here, we're discussing you being an arrogant attention seeker, who doesn’t like it when people ‘oppose’ you. That has nothing to do with being a newbe, or a coding genius.

You should also stop lumping me in with whoever else you're sick of ‘telling you you're wrong.’ I don't tell you shit. I don't interact with you much at all coz from day one at joining 1emu, I've seen you be nothing but an abrasive, sarcastic, grumpy bastard to everyone there, even to those who praise you and offer suggestions which you regularly ask for. Also, I'm not whining about you ‘leaving’. I'd be quite glad to see your endless combination of bragging and complaining gone for good. But unfortunately you’re already back at 1emu posting childish rubbish. Also I haven't ever asked you to do or fix anything, coz once again, I don't use 'your' emulator. You seem to see me, cbagy and whoever else as one entity who's dragging you down. We're not, we're different people, a lot of them, who just so happen to share the opinion that you are a twat.
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 03:15:00 AM »

lol. you guys.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2009, 03:31:00 AM »

Do you think I made this thread or something? I didn't report you leaving, or misquote you. I honestly think that you read something entirely different from what people actually type. Leave or don't leave, I don't care. Just stop being a bastard to everyone and acting all innocent when people give it back.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 03:32:00 AM »

lol. Well said there Ice-man...pretty much sums up the whole thing if you've been reading at 1emu... biggrin.gif
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 10:55:00 PM »

you know I know thats true and never say otherwise but this new wave offers no help and just wants to silence going forward.....

 it is now clouded with trollers. I deal with some of these helpers still behind closed doors and things are moving on, I didnt want it this way but a few people are persisant and where asking for this in fact pretty much forcing it. I know some see it the same way as myself infact I talk with quite a few that know this is what must happen sad.gif good luck and the new FBlegends looks legendary
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