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« Reply #120 on: February 27, 2008, 04:42:00 AM »

sorry I couldnt be arsed doccumenting each game I just added or removed if they had issues or were not good enough it was that simple for me. It still took about 4 hours if I doccumented and explained everything it would take alot longer probably 15 hours so.

I am and have been having thoughts of making a totally new GUI using xbmc skin engine and this will mean canceling arcades and only having about 300-400 games but a flash interface really flash. Ill talk to gogo about some stuff if hes around soon hopefully

I have reinstated the lockdown stuff as I dont want to be buged about issues that a patch that isnt tested will probably give me...this is why the save must be put over so I know how its setup it saves me alot of support I will fix legit bugs for sure and I know I have them.

Someone help him with keymapping if not all docco will be on mameworld and links from it

Ive done what I think ive needed to do ive looked at all stuff and assested it. Passed off some knoweldge not much heart in it im sure. I dont want to be responsible to teach and banter around stuff I do listen and if there is a case for it or many ask I normally give in but normally it requires more than one lobbier to change my mind. If you guys want stuff like the game mentioned earlier lobby hard and you never know
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« Reply #121 on: February 27, 2008, 04:11:00 AM »

Nice.  What a waste of time you are.  15 hours is child's play.  

I'll do this on my own.  And if you're abandoning Arcades, all the better.  I'll fix it myself.
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« Reply #122 on: February 27, 2008, 04:24:00 AM »

This ain't politics.  I can actually speak with the people, and the people can understand me.  No lobbying necessary.

When I release a build of this once I've figured out how to edit, I will listen to all of your suggestions.  I welcome them.  I'd like to add all the working games, put them in categories that make sense, allow you the ability to show or hide each category easily, and have all the games remapped so they work right.  If when I've completed that anybody finds any problems with the mapping, I'd be more than happy to hear the problems so we can all work together to fix them.  I will not hoard this to myself and be beligerant as hell like some other coders.  I want this to be our emu.... not my emu.
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« Reply #123 on: February 27, 2008, 05:18:00 AM »

im so greedy with my stuff and selfish I havent given anything back..... you dont know the half of what ive added Arcades is but a small part

Now im having to defend myself and being selfish after 1000s of hours on xbmc dvd2xbox and mame without me mamedox wouldnt have happened. Its there for public Arcades is my build just use Mamedox or HK build both are fully open to do what you want with

Sorry it is politics now I hope you learn heaps kick arse with whatever your doing I look forword to one day seeing your vision come true but I do stand by what I said if people want stuff let me know I may not do it but I will at least think about it. Anyone can add anything they want at any time full source is out there.
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« Reply #124 on: February 27, 2008, 05:23:00 AM »

There's no reason to reinvent the wheel and find an old build and start from there.  Your build has everything I want except for games I want to add and remap, and fixes to your old games.  Also there are some GUI changes I'd like to make which you refuse to add.  

I don't know why you couldn't just shut up about your problems you saw and just fix them.  Like you said, it was a very small amount of my games that I tested that you had a problem with.  If you got nothing good to say, deal with it, add the damn things and move on.  You seem to take pleasure in having that snarky attitude and knocking people down who have put 100's of hours into a project because you like feeling like you're better than everybody else.  

I wanted to work with you, but you're a jerk.
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« Reply #125 on: February 27, 2008, 10:01:00 AM »

Back to business....

Seems I'm going to have to convert my XBox into a debug box before I can make any real changes through XDK.  Not as simple as I thought to setup, but no doubt much easier than the original XB coders had to work with in the early days.  After all of my searching on this the newest thread with a solution for this was here:

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=456599

So.... whatever is included in Dead Parrots package can be assumed to be legal if it was advertised on this site.  I can't find it where he was saying to look (3 years ago), but I'm going to keep looking so I can get started teaching myself how to fix these problems that have long gone unfixed.

If anybody knows about this stuff, I'd be mighty appreciative if you could tell me if I'm on the right track or if there is an easier/better way to make a debug box.  If this is the best way, maybe somebody could save me some time and provide me with the package.  I want to spend time on this, but I'm not too happy that I'm scouring Google like a noob for more crap.  I thought I was done with all that a half a year ago.  

Thanks again

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« Reply #126 on: February 27, 2008, 12:36:00 PM »

Oh well you wont be starting with arcades... no offense you dont have the source but good luck you are going in the right direction

PS I did fix them all I said was if you release a patch relook at your work as I found at least 60 games with issues you defend that with im dogging you but im just reporting what I found as I did test every game
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« Reply #127 on: February 27, 2008, 12:10:00 PM »

Good.  

Tell me what games.   Don't just say "a lot of them"....

I already told anybody that if there is any problems to come to me and not bother you about it.

The names for games you won't add are still not fixed in your xbe.  That will be a problem right away if you don't have them fixed before i release a patch.
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« Reply #128 on: February 27, 2008, 01:11:00 PM »

Sorry you have no chance now and im looking at changing direction to a completely different build at the moment
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« Reply #129 on: February 27, 2008, 04:59:00 PM »

Whatever.  I don't need you.

Don't complain about a patch I make then.
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« Reply #130 on: February 27, 2008, 10:31:00 PM »

should be fine as the patch is not what I want and is of little intrest to me.

Best of luck
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« Reply #131 on: February 27, 2008, 10:48:00 PM »

Good luck to you too.  Happy to have wasted the last two weeks of my life going in a direction on this that you aren't going to complete when you said you would.
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« Reply #132 on: February 28, 2008, 01:44:00 AM »

it happened in a few days and what was done.....here. The other stuff would have been going in background. Believe it or not your non willingness to listen to constant there is errors and your attude to not listen when clearly one person knew how things work and one person had very little knoweldge and was constantly saying not to tell them of the errors just to add it as its all good. The constantly crying means I might give the people what ive done, but I wont work with you further to produce what you want as you simply wont listen to there is alot of ERRORS that need fixing about 10 percent of games have issues outside of keymapping and the need to stop it only playing on second boot so I wont support it, you will need to go back and fix the issues. This is my opion your option obviously differs that I should just add it in and let you roam free as you know what your doing and you have it undercontrol.  Our opions differ so greatly that we cant work together seems very simple to me
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« Reply #133 on: February 28, 2008, 03:26:00 AM »

You only gave me a few examples of games that didnt' work from the get-go and they were all in my updated spreadsheet already.  To this day I have no idea what errors you're speaking about that I didn't already have marked as needing to be fixed on games before they were added.  You have yet to tell me one that I didn't already know about. I do have our conversations saved because I didn't want to lose your instructions on how to alter game names with the hex-editor and how to alter the catver correctly, so I'm sure I can dig up a few quotes from you that were more than mildy abrasive.  I don't think you appreciate how much time I've put into this before you say some of the things that you do.  I'm certain that if you took the time to look at my updated data in the spreadsheet that you'd see we already agree on most of the errors.

For the record, when I first gave you the folder with working roms, I had NOT tested them in Arcades yet.  My original intentions when starting this thread was to get a MAMEox128 working romset, but I quickly discovered that your emulator was much more advanced.  I told you the night that I supplied you with what you asked me for that they were not tested in Arcades and that they were tested in MAMEox 128.  After our discussion I then spent the next two days going through all of the "Add" games and the "Change" games using Arcades and tested each one individually and thouroughly, even remarking what key-mapping changes needed to be made where necessary.  (This is what I'm mad that I did, because if nothing comes out of this I can't get that wasted time back)  Chances are that I missed a few even with the updated spreadsheet, but that's why there are two people testing.  Honestly, there are a lot of games that worked fine without fixing in Plus that needed altering in Arcades so I do know what you're talking about there.  When I went through and retested roms that didn't work in Plus, about 50 of them worked in Arcades without any problems and another 25 or so will work fine after keymapping changes.  I know from experience that the two emulators handle about 10% of the roms very differently.  You keep mentioning 60 games that you needed to fix, and I'm pretty sure that if you look at my spreadsheet, the number of games I say needed to be fixed is pretty close to 60 if not right on.

Take a look at my spreadsheet.  Just because I packed all 550+ games together the first time and didn't separate screen errors or keymapping problems doesn't mean that they weren't re-tested in Arcades.  All of the info is there.  Sure, I may have a few mistakes, but nowhere near the 10% you're claiming.   As for the second batch that I provided to you on Monday or Tuesday, they should all be separated and I'd be suprised if you disagreed with anything I said about them in the spreadsheet.

It's a shame we can't get past our differences here.  I have also have quite a few suggestions for remapping games you've already added as well, such as Robocop II so you could use the X for attack left, A for attack right and B for jump.  I can't remember off the top of my head at work, but I know that it's not set up that way and it doesn't feel natural.




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might give the people what ive done, but I wont work with you further to produce what you want as you simply wont listen to there is alot of ERRORS that need fixing about 10 percent of games have issues outside of keymapping and the need to stop it only playing on second boot so I wont support it, you will need to go back and fix the issues.


I'm not even sure what most of that means, but as for "you will need to go back and fix the issues", I would gladly do just that, but as you've already mentioned, I don't have the source.  And you've already said that if you weren't adding the game that you wouldn't take the time out of your day to fix them for my patch.
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« Reply #134 on: February 28, 2008, 03:05:00 AM »

robocop 2 is all fixed as per instructions normally if I dont comment ive fixed it.

Ill be leaving it to you to fix all stuff up im working on another project now, its been a scream but for now I have other projects happening. Im sure in time you will give a decent patch out for the people and its all good this is a head spin as allways on this forum.... Ill stick to the one I dont seem to ever have issues on

good luck guys your in good hands
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