Topic: Multiversion Compatible Tsop Tutorial (Read 6395 times)

cONEction · « **Reply #60 on:** June 04, 2003, 09:59:00 PM »

The Dude, just use [IMG*]http://hihi.jpg[/IMG*] tag and put a url to the picture between it,

tag without *

thnx alot for the great urtorial

The Dude · « **Reply #61 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:19:00 AM »

maximilian0017 very good point,

I have had this mod done for about 4 weeks now with no signs of trouble. When originally talking about this mod, i had intended to lift the a19 point of the tsop from the mobo completely and running to vcc which would have been absolutely neccessary to run a resistor. My knowledge of resistors is pretty limited but we had talked about a "10K". Honestly i've never seen one, nor do i really know what kind of current regulation it is rated at. If you can offer any insite or anyone else for that matter it would be much appreciated. Like i said, almost a month with this mod and no signs of trouble yet, but sometimes it is better to be safe than sorry.

On another note, if there are any moderators reading this post, a pdf of this tutorial was submitted to xantium a few weeks ago, if this could be put up in the general tutorial section it would be much appreciated.

xboxlinux · « **Reply #62 on:** June 05, 2003, 09:24:00 AM »

DUDE I need your help. I'm getting this error on telnet, what does it mean. I also use the raincoat 0.5 version as well.

xbox-linux login:
xbox-linux login: root
Password:

BusyBox v0.60.5-xbox (2003.02.17-17:02+0000) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

sh: can't access tty; job control turned off

Get more Linux at http://xbox-linux.sf.net/.

# cd ../../media/E/UDATA/4541000d/000000000000/raincoat
# ./raincoat -r xbox.bin
raincoat Flasher 0.5 Apr 14 2003 [email protected] http://xbox-linux.sf.net
Reading /etc/raincoat.conf... (unable to open /etc/raincoat.conf, using default
list)

UNKNOWN DEVICE Read Only??? manf=0x09, dev=0x00
Try adding the device ID to /etc/raincoat.conf

The Dude · « **Reply #63 on:** June 05, 2003, 01:37:00 PM »

xboxlinux,

It sounds to me like your write enable jumpers are not soldered properly. I would also help to know what type of tsop you have and your version of the xbox. As i understand if you have a sharp tsop it requires that you solder an extra wire to make a flash work. If you do not have a sharp tsop, i would check your write enable jumpers again and make sure they are soldered properly.

xboxlinux · « **Reply #64 on:** June 05, 2003, 03:55:00 PM »

DUDE, it is my jumper, one of them open for some reason, now I have another problem. I was able to backup my bios and also upload a 512k conbination of the red 4976.02 red bios, this is my result:

DETECTED: ST - M29F080A (1024K)
Programming with mybios.bin...Read 524288 bytes from file
Erasing...
Done
Programming...
Done
Verifying...
Done
Completed
#

I assume it's perfect. I just ran one of the wires to GRND and A19 and solder them on the switch and then Green/RED flashes, but if I turn off the switch open cause I didn't ran the VCC for now just to check I get the M$ bios? If I didn't attach the switch would I get the red/green flashes?

The Dude · « **Reply #65 on:** June 05, 2003, 05:06:00 PM »

doesn't make much sense dude, need a little more information, like what part of the tsop you flashed the bios to

Regionfree · « **Reply #66 on:** June 06, 2003, 08:43:00 AM »

Hey Dude,
Great work. I've tried it all and it works great. If you still want someone to host your tutorial, I would be more then happy to do it. Let me know if your still interested.

Regionfree

The Dude · « **Reply #67 on:** June 06, 2003, 12:45:00 PM »

Nice work dudes,

I have gotten a few offers for people to host the full tutorial, and it has been uploaded and a url will be following shortly.

Another note, there have been some concerns that a direct current from vcc to the tsop could cause a little bit of trouble, but after a month with this mod done to a couple of xbox's that i do own, i haven't had any trouble at all. For those of you that want to go the safe route, a small resistor in line from Vcc to the tsop will do the trick. The actual specifications of the resistor needed are unknown at the moment, but when i get some more information i will post as soon as possible.

The Dude · « **Reply #68 on:** June 06, 2003, 01:41:00 PM »

Here's the url for the full tutorial with pics, they kind hosts are now working on putting the tutorial in html format

http://www.lone.net/..._TSOP_Guide.pdf

Grei · « **Reply #69 on:** June 06, 2003, 08:47:00 PM »

Great work Ant and Dude. I've wanted to get a multibios going using the standard bios ever since X2 was released but couldn't. I've been using the TACPX Debug Dual bios on the first 512 and a blue C: X2 and red E: X2 on the last 512 with the a18 off a19 switch to change startups. Problem is although TACPX looks standard it can't be used with xbox live. I will change my switch around and flash the first half with a 512 standard bios and see if it works. I'd like to keep the other half the way they are giving me 3 startup choices, I hope it will work. Will post my results.

Grei · « **Reply #70 on:** June 07, 2003, 03:34:00 PM »

Here are my findings. When I changed my switch around only the off position would work (bios 4). I re-flashed with 4 x X2 using 007 trick. This gave me 3 X2, 1 x a19 to VCC, 1 x a19 to Ground, 1 x switch off. Using evox I flashed one side with 2 x Original 4034 which was all ok. Then I flashed the other side with red X2 E: + blue X2 C:. The blue X2 worked with a19 to ground but the switch off position didn't work. My guess is each side must have 2 x same bios. If anyone knows another way pls post how it's done.

maximilian0017 · « **Reply #71 on:** June 08, 2003, 01:06:00 PM »

When you ground a19 it's almost as bad as applying vcc to it.
I would simpely take a resistor and put it in between the switch and a19/18., this way both currents are limited.

As to trying to find the correct value, it would probably be trial and error, try a relatively big one like 100 Ohms first in both situations (a18/19 to ground or vcc), if the switch doesn't work anymore or the x-box chrashes just lower the resistance.
At some time you wil have found a value that everyting seems to work, take about 70% of that and that would be perfect.
(so if it's a 10ohms resistor you found to work, you should use a 7ohms resistor)
Always try to find the maximun resistance first, how higher the resistance that everything works the better(minus the safety ofcource)

At this time i do not have the resources to try this, but i would not do it any other way(as an official techie)

If anyone tries let me know, in the meantime i wil try to think of a more educated guess.

There are also small heatsinks like those on pc motherboard cihpsets, these couldn't hurt also because overcurrent means heat and heat means dead components, so that's a second way to secure your x-box life
That one then goes on the big chip without a cooler on it.

maximilian0017 · « **Reply #72 on:** June 08, 2003, 01:44:00 PM »

Ok, wel actually the resistance is a lot lower than i thought, probably somewhere in between 10 and 30 ohm's.

Andy Green's (aka Numbnut) notes also gave the same results, if i read it correctly he thinks it would be about 15 ohms.
(p.s. thanks Andy for the great work on the x-box!!!)

rgtaa · « **Reply #73 on:** June 09, 2003, 06:44:00 PM »

are you suggesting that people who have been following this guide might run into problems down the road?

... if resistor is not used?

Anyone confirm this?

Interesting info ... has anyone who has multi-bios run into problems ... yet?

or is this just speculation? and possible problem?

Could you post LINKS that refer to this POSSIBLE problem and solution? or Discussion of this ISSUE?
Thanks

majik655 · « **Reply #74 on:** June 09, 2003, 06:59:00 PM »

yes how many people have had success as in no heat problems?

and I am also stupid on resistors and values and such.. so..

I have a couple 10k ohm 1/4 watt resistors.

I also have 220 but think thats too big or small I don't know lol.

Anyway will the 10k work? as in save something from happening? AND STILL ALLOW TO WORK?

or are we talking resistors that we cannot get at radioshack type of place?

rather be safe then sorry later.. thank you!

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