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rgtaa

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« Reply #90 on: June 13, 2003, 11:46:00 AM »

maybe he will be so kind as to rename the parts again ... and make the right switch type ...
Great pic and if he labels it right ...  one picture says it all! smile.gif

And to The Dude!
LOL! smile.gif   Hopefully we don't have too many complusive types in this Forum ...that spend the day switching back and forth with Xbox ON ... like Russian Roulette!    ... although the type that does that... will most likely get the  Electric Shock 20,000 volt controller pad instead! wink.gif

P.S. now on to serious question!
In Radio Shack ... i saw a SPDT  center off  switch ...   would this work ...and what happens in center position?
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maximilian0017

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« Reply #91 on: June 13, 2003, 02:52:00 PM »

rqtaa:
if you were to use that switch with the outer points it would react like it should.

if you were to use that switch with the center off point the xbox would react like an unmodded xbox and boot the 4th bios image,
I'm pretty sure this would get you banned using xbox live.

On the other hand, it wouldn't strain the MCPX, something that is discussed at this time.
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maximilian0017

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« Reply #92 on: June 13, 2003, 02:54:00 PM »

Ehh, the dude, if Ruffles tried that he would probably burn down his xbox, he's tying vcc to gnd directly!!!
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rgtaa

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« Reply #93 on: June 13, 2003, 04:41:00 PM »

so center position would not be Whole One Meg Tsop?

if in Center position ...why would it only Look at only 4th bios image ....    since my switch would be for 2   516k bios?  (vcc,a19,gnd)

I'm trying to understand this...

I was hoping if in Center Position I could flash WHOLE TSOP ... if I wanted to .....   but ... is this the case ....  

That would allow me to only flash 1/2 for LIVE ... if I wanted to ...and most of the time ... just leave full TSOP  ... safe! (not having to worry about heat issues)... with regular 1 meg  evol x bios on it ....    (since i'm not on LIVE at the moment)

What do you guys think?

Would be easy to flash just prior to going on LIVE! smile.gif
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rgtaa

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« Reply #94 on: June 13, 2003, 05:34:00 PM »

how about  only flashing 1/2 TSOP at time ...but making both  evolx  then putting switch in Center Position to Save components ...

if so ...would the wiring still be the same  vcc,a19,gnd  ...   or not?

then if I wanted to play LIVE just flash 1/2 with Live!  otherwise just leave both sides evolx ... with switch in center position ...

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SZNAPS!

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« Reply #95 on: June 13, 2003, 06:43:00 PM »

i just wired up a box but didnt use the ground taht guy did, i used the ground on the lpc (the square looking pad) and i used teh same 5v vcc thing. is that ok?, it should be.. also, i dont think we REALLY need to use a resistor becaseu the bios are only loaded off the TSOP instantly to the ram so i dont think its gonna put enough stress on the chip to fry it or somesuch. are there 2 a19 points? and does it matter which one i use... also, im gonna install the switch to split the TSOP in half tomorrow its already flashed with evox 4976.02 or waht ever # they are(i know it ends in .02) and has evox running. can i just flash the TSOP from evox with half d.6 half regular ones then solder teh switch on?
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« Reply #96 on: June 13, 2003, 08:26:00 PM »

QUOTE (maximilian0017 @ Jun 13 2003, 10:54 PM)
Ehh, the dude, if Ruffles tried that he would probably burn down his xbox, he's tying vcc to gnd directly!!!

Right thas why i asked, i got it wrong the first time i read the tutorial, but now i know exactly what i need to do

user posted image

I removed the original picture to avoid confusing other people

And sorry about my bad english
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maximilian0017

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« Reply #97 on: June 14, 2003, 01:52:00 AM »

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so center position would not be Whole One Meg Tsop?

if in Center position ...why would it only Look at only 4th bios image .... since my switch would be for 2 516k bios? (vcc,a19,gnd)


In the center position it would be the whole 1 meg tsop, i only wanted to point out that the standard xbox boots the 4th bios image as standard.
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rgtaa

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« Reply #98 on: June 14, 2003, 01:08:00 AM »

Thanks for the reply... so we have a way ... to have it all!

center 1 meg TSOP
Right  1/2
Left     1/2

and if any are concerned about component heat issues ... keep in center position  until we straighten it out ... playing LIVE only when needed by Flashing 1/2 (which 1/2 again   vcc to a19 side         or  gnd to a19     to avoid being banned?
Remembering to flash only 1/2 at a time ...  to insure if BAD flash ... you can use the other 1/2 to fix the bad half!

Now I will go to Radio Shack and get the SPDT center swtich OFF   ONES! smile.gif

And thanks alot for Updating the Picture with everything on it!  Looks good!

Would the Square LCP in the pic be a better GND point as the other guy says ...  then it would look real easy to do! smile.gif
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SZNAPS!

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« Reply #99 on: June 14, 2003, 07:19:00 AM »

does it matter if center switch is on or off?
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The Dude

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« Reply #100 on: June 14, 2003, 10:48:00 AM »

Looks like the old host for the full tutorial went down....

You can now find he full tutorial at...

www.valholl.org in the tutorials sections.
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maximilian0017

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« Reply #101 on: June 14, 2003, 04:06:00 PM »

Hey rtgaa,

I really dont know what would happen if you flash the tsop and then use it with the a19 switch in the middle.
It would probably try to load the 4th bios image, but maby it will fail because the other images are different.
(you could try without problems, as long as you do not load the ms dashboard live settings and games with the "special" bios(you would probablyget banned from live))

And SNAPS!, what do you mean?, if those switches have an off position they always do nothing
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« Reply #102 on: June 14, 2003, 04:23:00 PM »

i mean the middle pole is "off" thats what the other guy said to get, loook up a few threads (this is me SNAZPS! under my friends sn)
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rgtaa

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« Reply #103 on: June 14, 2003, 03:23:00 PM »

smile.gif

If I then wanted to flip switch to other side that would be evolx bios.

and if I wasn't gonna be on LIVE for a while ... I could reflash that side with evolx and switch back to middle position ... SAFE MODE! smile.gif
This is just a precaution ...and switchs are same price as other type ... and adds a little more flexibity.

HERE is the LINK to what I am taking about! smile.gif

SPDT with Center Off Flat Lever Heavy-Duty Toggle Switch
http://www.radioshac...a..._id=275-654

SPDT with Center Off Flat Lever Heavy-Duty Toggle Switch
$3.49
Catalog #: 275-654


This isn't the only one i saw ... just an example of first one I saw on RADIO shacks online store.
If you guys find a different LINK to a better one ... post it! smile.gif
There are 3 pages of Switchs on that link ... at top of page... click on Switchs and see all the others! ...
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« Reply #104 on: June 14, 2003, 11:03:00 PM »

There is one problem with what rgtaa is saying that may screw people up.  If the switch is in the true off (open) position, the xbox will not boot if you have two different bios's in either half of the tsop.  And even on top of that i do not even see a need for the switch.  Why would you want to flip the switch every time you power up your xbox.  OR even more of a pain in the ass would be booting up the xbox, then flipping off (if you're afraid the big bad vcc will burn up your tsop and your chances are slip and none) then you use the IN GAME RESET feature?????  What bios will it boot on reboot? NOTHING because you have a combination of death with two different bios's conflicting, so bascially your really handy IGR feature has just become worthless.
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