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[Iriez]

QUOTE(TrewQ @ Apr 4 2005, 11:35 PM)

Why haven't you guys released the latest code too the CVS? If you stop work on Surreal will you relese it to the public then? So other people can continue work on it?

[enderandrew]

I just ran across another thread where someone asked you to release source code for three projects where the official releases where more recent than the source released.  Under the license of those projects, you're obligated to share code.

You flat out said no.

You then said that the reason is because you've since broken parts of the code by tinkering with it.

However, since the request was to see the code for educational purposes, and not to compile and run with that code, I don't understand why you're breaking license by refusing to release said code.

If you're not in possession of the the CVS code for Surreal, that's another thing.  However, the best solution for that problem is to have a public CVS server, or at the very least, a central CVS server.

And if you're going to act childish and throw insults around, then frankly I think it's rather antagonistic to chide on the XXX team.  You haven't been working on the project anymore, and they've picked up the ball.  That's a big part of open-source development.  You bash on them and their project, but don't offer a solution, since you don't have access to this fix in CVS.

[knepley]

noob, he doesn't have to release code if he doesn't release a binary of said code...

[kl0wn]

my flicker options don't work

[Iriez]

Oh boy, not another lame ass source war.

You know, its really quite funny. oDD and lantus make the project open source, and make the CVS public and allow anyone to get it (even when its broke). Then some clown comes along and starts bashing them over the lack of current source when the person he's bashing doesnt even have it. There's a specific reason oDD didnt put the source he had up, and the same reason xbins doesnt do daily builds of XBMC ....sometimes the CVS is just plain 'fucked'. When oDD fixes his current tree so that it actually works, it will most likely be made public. This is however, whenever he comes around, and actually has the time to do it.

While we all try our best to be ethical and good natured, you can never forget that most of the developers in this community are building this source with a stolen XDK. You'll have to cry wolf to someone more ethical than the xbox scene.

Good progress on OpenXDK lately btw = )

[Odb718]

   them's the breaks

[Likklebaer]

QUOTE(lantus @ Apr 5 2005, 07:55 AM)

if you read what i wrote - i didnt release duke source because i didnt take a snapshot at the time of the 0.90 alpha, and if you read what i wrote i offered Likklebear the option if having the source that i had with the disclaimer it is most likely broken.

You did?

Awesome. I'd love to have any more recent sources to the projects I mentioned, whatever state they may be in. Sorry I didn't reply in the other thread, I also thought you were flat-out saying no. My mistake.

Thankies!  

[enderandrew]

QUOTE(lantus @ Apr 5 2005, 07:55 AM)

if you read what i wrote - i didnt release duke source because i didnt take a snapshot at the time of the 0.90 alpha, and if you read what i wrote i offered Likklebear the option if having the source that i had with the disclaimer it is most likely broken.

[Foe-hammer]

I have to agree with lantus, the surreal64xxx UI is fuggly compared to the original one, and the 50% of the time the emu locks up when i try to get out of the ingame menu screen.  But zelda oot looks a hell of alot better on surreal64xxx; on surreal the graphics had a mat texture finish covering the the entire picture.  It pained me too much to even play it on the original surreal.  Now all we need is a texture fix for the top down view when Link is indoors.  Oddly enough, the original UltraHLE xbox N64 emu did not have this problem.

Anyway, it is nice to see some progress made on the N64 emu after not seeing nothing for over a year.

Thanks and keep up the good work, surreal64xxx team.  I'm looking forward to future releases.

[XDelusion]

It works though, so that's all that matters, now if only the Emu didn't lock up, crackle, have graphical glitches beyond belief, etc. The only way I think this emu has improved is the Rice Plug-in...

...but in adding that, it seems that MANY things have been broken.

[Likklebaer]

QUOTE(lantus @ Apr 5 2005, 01:59 PM)

"i can release what i have but things are probably broken (a definite of Duke3d)"

[Iriez]

QUOTE(enderandrew @ Apr 5 2005, 08:14 PM)

I never signed a EULA when I fired up my XBox.  If I purchased an operating system from them, I've signed EULA's.  But I have the right to do whatever I want with my hardware.  There is no law in the world that says when you purchase and fully own the hardware, that you don't have the right to do what you want with it.

[Poobah]

enderandrew, it's people like you that make foolish children spam emutalk.net, complaining about the lack of disrespect in the Xbox community. Just give lantus a break.

[firestorm2yk]

The fact that we even HAVE surreal64 is a godsend for xbox owners and i give a big "thanks" to the orginal creators, as well as the other teams (XXX) that strive to try and make it better. These guy's dont get paid to do this stuff but do it in their own spare time between their probably hectic lives, so if that means waiting a bit longer for surreal64 V2 or other emu's or XXX ports then so be it. These guy's have given so much time and effort to the community that patience and understanding is the least of what we owe them.

[DolfhinDC]

QUOTE(enderandrew @ Apr 6 2005, 09:08 AM)

Who says I've pirated any games?