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angrypants

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« on: July 27, 2004, 06:49:00 PM »

Hey I have seen a few posts on here regarding mortal kombat games and other midway games and their poor emulation on the recent versions of mame. I would deffinatly recomend using xports version of mame for 99% of mame games but the mk games and a few others deffinatly do work best with mameox 0.71.1b. I have the new mame on the xbox for most games and 71 for some of the games that are poorly emulated.  With a little twaeking you can get most of these games to work perfectly. Here are the settings that I have found to work the best for me.

SOUND
-sound processing enabled
-sample rate 22700
-audio samples disabled
-audio filter disabled

VIDEO OPTIONS
-vsync disabled
-framerate throttling disabled
-frameskip mode no frame skipping
-aspect ratio correction disabled
-minification/magnification filter linear

Games I have tested with and seen imporvments
-mortal kombat 1 (runs perfectly)
-mortal kombat 2 (runs perfectly)
-mortal kombat 3 (runs perfectly)
-ultimate mortal kombat 3 (runs perfectly)
-nba jam (runs perfectly)
-nba jam TE (might be a little bit slow)
-narc (perfect)
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angrypants

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2004, 07:14:00 PM »

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the mk games and a few others deffinatly do work best with mameox 0.71.1b


Sorry if I didn't make it clear enough. The new mame rocks but is slow for some of the older games.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2004, 08:05:00 PM »

QUOTE (ThE MaSTeR 3 @ Jul 28 2004, 02:59 AM)
Yeah the new mame isnt nearly as good as everyone thought it would be. Atleast Surreal V2 will live up 2 the hype I gave it biggrin.gif

What are you talking about? It does what it is suppose to do perfetcly, play games that had memory issues.
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ThE MaSTeR 3

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2004, 09:39:00 PM »

yeah but its pointless because FBAXXX runs games like metal slug 3 alot faster even with all filters on max...
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2004, 11:36:00 PM »

MAME has always been less compatable than those emulators written specifically for one or two kinds of gaming hardware. This release is great, yes there are MANY issues yet to tackle, but you have to remember that MAME is the only option for emulating this many games, and the fact that we are using a console with a limited amount of resources.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2004, 11:52:00 PM »

Mame has always been about emulating the most,

Generally speaking if a more dedicated emulator comes out it is quicker, or the mame port was from it in the first place.

Take the U64 emulation for Killer Instinct - even on PC the seperate emulator is way quicker than mame.

Like mentionned above MAME is excellent for offering the quantity of systems in one app - if you don't like the emulation then try another emulator.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2004, 07:31:00 PM »

thanks for the tips on mame .71!  Nba jam has always been a fun game for me.  Any other games I should move from .84 back to .71?

I can't get sound on some of these (MK3 and nba hangtime...both run fine, but no sound)  I have all of the settings mentioned above and using .71.2b
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2004, 11:27:00 PM »

QUOTE (lsd4me @ Jul 29 2004, 05:52 AM)
great post angrypants, but is there a conflict with 2 version of mameox?

Nope you'll just have MAMEoX listed twice on your list of self-installed Emulators if you have 2 version of MAMEoX on your hard drive

Nice post I have been using a version of MAME-X since it played Mortal Kombat good with the default settings & have been wanting to play the other Mortal Kombats at good speed on the xbox  biggrin.gif

Here is how I set my buttons to mimic how I used to play on the SNES controller to maybe help some with having to figure out a decent why to set their buttons

Button 1 - Y (High Kick)
Button 2 - X (High Punch)
Button 3 - R Trigger (Block)
Button 4 - A (Low Punch)
Button 5 - B (Low Kick)
Button 6 - L Trigger (Run)

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lsd4me

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2004, 12:28:00 AM »

I just tested these I wouldnt call them perfect but they run quite well, MK3 still has issues, anyway does anyone know where to get the source I can only find 72 and up?
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angrypants

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2004, 01:33:00 AM »

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I can't get sound on some of these (MK3 and nba hangtime...both run fine, but no sound) I have all of the settings mentioned above and using .71.2b


I havn't tried 71.2b I have been using 71.1b I don't know if it will make a diffrence but I am getting pretty good results.

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I just tested these I wouldnt call them perfect but they run quite well


Technicaly I suppose its not perfect but it has sound and runs fast enough to be really really playable. More so than I thought they would be and enough so to be worth the time.

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is there a conflict with 2 version of mameox


I have had no problems with the two versions. I have used xberenamer and called one mame84 and the other mame71 and they run just fine. I have all of my mame roms in a directory with mame84 and I also have the most recent version of kawax and fbaxx in  there as well for any games that might have some proeblems as well as newer games not supported by mame. In a totally diffrent folder I have mame 71 and in the roms folder I have just the games that mame84 has had problems with which I really wanted to play, Its like 6 diffrent games over all. The way this is set up I can pretty much get every game I have to run at a speed with sound that makes me happy.
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angrypants

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2004, 01:34:00 AM »

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anyone know where to get the source I can only find 72 and up


I found it at the usual places listed in the mame section in the older versions folder.
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lsd4me

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2004, 05:26:00 PM »

QUOTE (angrypants @ Jul 29 2004, 09:37 AM)

I found it at the usual places listed in the mame section in the older versions folder.

I only see the binary not the source?
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Lukenatme

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2004, 06:07:00 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2004, 08:56:00 PM »

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lsd4me you want the binary if you wanna use it on the xbox but if you want the source to compile  its at http://sourceforge.net/
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lsd4me

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2004, 10:49:00 PM »

QUOTE (Prican24 @ Jul 30 2004, 04:59 AM)
lsd4me you want the binary if you wanna use it on the xbox but if you want the source to compile  its at http://sourceforge.net/

Right, thanks
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