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[XPort]

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XPort, what I am saying is that I am on the same version PC wise with the same EXACT settings, and those you mentioned, and no, I still have problems with WB, Citadel, and WormsDC. I'm amazed at the near perfect speed on many of the FPS' though! What I am saying here is that perhaps, aside of the having to set the WB isntall settings to Expert thing which should not be so according to the PC version...

I can interpret the above in at least two different ways:

1) You are saying that, with the same settings, Worms DC is crashing on WinUAEX but it is not crashing on WinUAE 0.8.27.  The second part can also be read as if you are saying that if you do not select expert mode on WinUAE 0.8.27 it will install correctly 100%.

or 2) You are seeing the same crashing in WinUAE 0.8.27 as you are in WinUAEX for the same programs/settings.  

Please clarify

[chilin_dude]

QUOTE (JAZ @ Jun 24 2004, 02:58 AM)

I'm surprised Xport hasn't decided to quit this scene altogether. After months of pleading he releases everyone's favourite Amiga emu on the Xbox. How is he repaid? A constant stream of complaining, griping and moaning. This emu is awesome. OK, so maybe there are issues with installing / running workbench - who gives a f*#k.  If you want to do that buy an Amiga. "It doesn't run game "X" exactly as I remember it". Well go cry to your Momma. No-one cares. Get a life you complaining, ungrateful bastards. Thanks again Xport, I love this emu!

Yes I totally agree  

[gonkle]

is there a good tool to unpack LZX files under AmigaOS?
i tried that under windows, but the windows filesystem isnt case sensitiv.
Would be nice if this tool has a GUI that anyone understands.
i search through aminet, but with most of the unpacker there i couldnt work.

thx

[Antiriad]

 but as these werent essential I didnt take note at the time. I guess this explains that problem then. I still maintain its easier to prep stuff on WinUAE on your PC then transfer it over to the XBox.

If there are any other files like this, check my earlier "how to" in this thread for displaying unxboxfriendly chrs under WinUAEx. Its longwinded, but it works.

XDelusion - Sorry if i narked you. I can understand your appreciation of the Amiga is what makes you want everything to run perfectly for you.

Likklebaer - registering Whdload is well worth it! Its also one of the few pieces of software i actually own  

Alexh - you can unGzip the adf files using WinRAR then rezip them with the same program.

Gonkle - I recommend X-Arc which forms part of NetConnect 2 or UnArc which is part of OS3.9. Alternatively, if you use unlzx.exe under windows (associate the lzx files with the program and double click on the archives) you should find the files are case sensitive.

[gonkle]

thx, i tired to install Xarc, but it wants MUI®, on the aminet archive the search gives me
a mass of files, but which do i need?
Didnt installed an AmigaOS that way for a decade or something.

There is no way to get those games running from a FatxHD that have 2 files with the same name, but different cases, right?

[XPort]

QUOTE (madmab @ Jun 26 2004, 09:24 AM)

OK after banging my head for a while I finally figured out the deal with the Workbench 3.1 install.   There are two files in the "Countries" folder on the "Locale" disc that are causing problems when copying over to the XBOX harddrive.  Apparently they use characters not liked by the XBOX. This is what I had to do to get past the 30% point and "could not copy canada.country file" error message. You have to UNZIP the locale disk (adf) on your XBOX so that Winueaex can write to it.  You need to boot into workbench (install disk will do just fine).  You need to open the locale disk and "show...all files" in the workbench menu.  Open up the "Countries" folder.  Delete the following two country files.  "canada francois.country" and "espain.country" (I may have got the spelling wrong, but it is close enough). Run the install.  It should work.   For some reason I had to manually copy the fonts disk over (beats me as to why).  This should not happen, but if it does all ya gotta do is open the hard drive folder and drag -n- drop the fonts disk into that folder. That should be it. Have fun.

This is really getting frustrating because nobody seems to be reading my posts on the subject.  

madmab - First, you are incorrect about certain files not copying over to the XBox because of the characters being used.  This same exact problem happens in the windows version of WinUAE  It has nothing to do with the XBox.  I have created files and directories on the XBox with the cedille character (the fancy c character in "francais") with no problems whatsoever.  Windows also has no problem with using the cedille character in filenames/directories, but the WB install will fail at the exact same spot on Windows version of WinUAE 0.8.27 as well.  I admit that the problem seems to be related to special characters, but it is not Xbox-related.

Second, what you propose is a lot more complicated and user-unfriendly than simply checking off "expert install" during the WB installation and only selecting the English language.  Simply checking off only "English" in an expert install will result in full installation with no problems and without going through the unnecessary steps you mentioned.  I wrote about this many, many posts ago.  

International characters, like the ones you find in the names of non-US language files, are not invalid in FAT-X

[XPort]

Gulliver - PM where I can get the exact same WB version you are using that you claim works in Windows/fails on XBox and I shall verify myself.  

You also need to carefully look at the options you have selected in WinUAE vs WinUAEX to make sure they are exactly the same.

Please also post every configuration setting you are using on WinUAEX for this WB version you mention.

[Likklebaer]

[gonkle]

[XDelusion]

Xport: Yes I was stating that I get the same negative results when trying all of your solutions. I was also saying that no matter how I set my settings in the PC version (same release), Work Bench installs fine without Expert being turned on, as it should. Oh well, I don't care, going to go write some musick, go out doors, get some air, ect.

[Likklebaer]

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Your from Europe somewhere and you've turned your back on WorkBench, truely the world has seen better times. :/

Heehee, I always considered WB a necessary evil that came with owning an Amiga. In fact, struggling to create these stand-alone HDF files for my games over the last couple of days has reminded me just how irritating and unuserfriendly the damned thing can be.

Not to say the Amiga didn't have some great apps, of course. DeluxePaint is still the best paint package I've ever used, but I can't for all the world think why I'd want to run it on my Xbox.

I know it's rich coming from me   , but let's have a bit less of the negative and more about how great it is that we can finally play Frontier, Testament, etc. at full speed.  

[XPort]

QUOTE (XDelusion @ Jun 26 2004, 03:36 PM)

Xport: Yes I was stating that I get the same negative results when trying all of your solutions. I was also saying that no matter how I set my settings in the PC version (same release), Work Bench installs fine without Expert being turned on, as it should.

Sorry - I can't believe it's anything except user error.  I've tried many different permutations and they all either install fine in WinUAEX or if one fails, it fails the same way in WinUAE 0.8.27.   If Gulliver gets back to me I may have more reason to investigate, but right now I see nothing wrong.

[XDelusion]

In any regards, everyone has to admit that Amiga OS beat Winblows to the so called Multi-tasking punch 10 years before Winblows 95 even had anything remotely like it. Also Amiga OS still stands to prove in this day and time that resource friendlyness is still possible with an OS. I know Amiga has some catching up to do, but I can definatly say that with an old Amiga 1200 (hint hint) that people who don't use there computer for more than an Office Suit, Web Browser, E-mail, Printing and the like, would find it perfect, more fluid, and more responsive than a winblows machine...

...well you'd want a GFX card for the net, but still...

Besides, what else did you use back in the day? A PC with it's 16 colors and DOS, or did you fork out mad doe for a single tasking B&W Mac, or did you simply find comfort in your old 8-bit computer till the 90's? There were no real alternatives back then, Mac was it and Mac locked up all the time because it did not know how to detect when it was out of RAM. Funny thing there.

[gonkle]

sure amiga ruled, some time ago.
For Gaming also, and in the last two weeks again, thx to xport.
Beside Full Spectrum Warrior atm, but i dont know if its in 15 years the same fun like playing  the stuff on winuaex now.

For WB install: I had the 30% Error, too.
But i didn´t followed the instructions here, only deleted the 2 files than it worked.
Next time i do the expert install.

For CD32, i have a CD here that says I need 4MB RAM for some games,
hope these one will run then.
But just lets wait and see if the guy from the WinUAE Team and thelion could boost this thing from one perfection to another.

[madmab]

QUOTE (Likklebaer @ Jun 26 2004, 07:29 PM)

XPort, please ignore these people. If they want to use WinUAE-X to install some outdated retro-OS on their Xbox then just let them figure it out themselves. It's perfectly clear that the emu isn't at fault. I'm sure the majority of users, like myself, are enjoying this port for what it does best - playing Amiga games every bit as well as its PC equivalent. I have yet to find anything seriously amiss with it and I've been playing almost continuously since it was released. And with the prospect of all the things you've mentioned you want to add in the future, I really don't see any reason for complaints from anyone. The bottom-line, WB worshippers, is that the Xbox is a games console and the reason emulators get ported is to play the games OK!?. So quit bugging XPort before you ruin this wonderful thing for everyone.

Funny you should mention that.

I've always wondered why the UEAX team spent so much time on the Picasso drivers.  

Anyways this emu is to much fun to risk loosing any work done on it, so I'll just leave the workbench issue at that.  This thing has renewed my interest in tinkering with Amiga games.  Cause when I had one I spent more time tinkering with configuration files than actually playing it.

Just a quick question though (cause I never used UAEX that much, and sold my Amiga's a long time ago).  

What is JIT memory?