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[Large Dopant white]

Look, it's clear that most of you are not thinking about the subject very hard - only repeating what a few have actually said. I knew that this point was worthless to debate, and I should have known that it would be met with nothing but insular remarks upon my intelligence.
Well, then, to wit, my naive young peers: you can all continue to believe in the fallacy that the scene is a 'brotherhood' and people will do things out of the goodness of their hearts. I, for one, actually live in the real world, and know that things will never be that simple ever again, now that money has been introduced- ever seen what happens when a friendly competition when money becomes involved? Apparently not.
EDIT: Iriez? Last I checked, you simply insulted and flamed anyone who disagreed with you. I am definately backing out of this before you turn this into another flamewar of yours, and I advise others with my view to do the same.

[Iriez]

QUOTE (Large Dopant white @ Aug 23 2003, 10:49 AM)

Look, it's clear that most of you are not thinking about the subject very hard

Look, its clear you have absolutly nothing positive, constructive, or even logical to say, so why dont you go read elsewhere?

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you can all continue to believe in the fallacy that the scene is a 'brotherhood' and people will do things out of the goodness of their hearts.

I certianlly will, and while im sitting here with private builds playing all my favorite large roms, you can sit in the corner of your mothers house and mutter negative remarks to the wall.

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I, for one, actually live in the real world, and know that things will never be that simple ever again, now that money has been introduced

And the answer is........WRONNNNNNG

Once again, you prove that you only hear what you want to hear. You neglect every single thing oDD and myself has said in regards to progress.

I hate to tell you, but your 'real world' is just your private little fallacy, breed through obvious denial and negativity.

[Likklebaer]

I agree I'm being overly negative. But the fact that money was involved at all left a bitter taste in the mouth from the start. I never understood how many ppl who should know better could be so impatient as to try and coax out a release in such a way? It seemed like a slap in the face to all the other coders who put in more time and more effort into more worthy projects and never get (or ask for) a cent in return.
Then PJ64-X is released and immediately shows signs of a 'rushed job', and to top it all the author wanted to remain effectively anonymous, it wasn't hard to jump to conclusions.
I also refuse to believe that Ultra-HLE being released in the same week was simply a coincidence. It was clearly originally intended for the competition even if it wasn't entered for whatever reason. That's not to disparage the emulator in any way, just some (if not all) of the motivation behind it.

Though I agree, on the basis of your hints and tidbits Iriez, the future of N64 emulation on the Xbox is starting to look a lot brighter now, you can't blame people for being pessimistic that anything positive was going to come of the whole thing. I just hope that nothing like that ever happens again since all it does is create pessimists.

[cainedna]

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Well, then, to wit, my naive young peers: you can all continue to believe in the fallacy that the scene is a 'brotherhood' and people will do things out of the goodness of their hearts.

Large White Dophant, if the emu scene had dried up since April, with the remaining authors sitting on their thumbs until someone starts a fund for them, you might have a platform to be standing on.
The fact is a majority of us haven't paid cent one for any of these emulator ports. I certainly feel like I use them enough to want to reward the authors in gratitude, but the fact is that none of them ask for it. Xport, Lantus, and so many of these authors have given us these pieces of software.
I doubt you donated to the contest, and if you did, it wasn't all that much, so the fact remains that this software was free. You can believe that Iriez and everyone else deeply involved the scene is lying to you about new and updated N64 emus for the Xbox, but you have no reason to be on this high horse.
And for the record, most used stores sell N64's for less than many of it's games, if you really can't wait to play Mario Tennis.  

[Iriez]

QUOTE (Likklebaer @ Aug 23 2003, 11:26 AM)

Then PJ64-X is released and immediately shows signs of a 'rushed job', and to top it all the author wanted to remain effectively anonymous, it wasn't hard to jump to conclusions.

To jump to conclusions is one thing. To deny what was said, and to say that it is really the opposite is another.

It was said right off the bat that development would continue as it did, regardless of what the contest entailed.

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I also refuse to believe that Ultra-HLE being released in the same week was simply a coincidence. It was clearly originally intended for the competition even if it wasn't entered for whatever reason.

oDD has stated many times exactly why he ported UltraXLE. It had absolutly nothing to do with the contest. If you wish to call him a liar, you can do so, but i will call you a fool.

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you can't blame people for being pessimistic that anything positive was going to come of the whole thing.

After i have gone out of my way so many times to say that development was progressing very well, even including details? Yes, i most certianlly can blame people for being pessimistic that 'anything positive' was going to come out of it.

Infact, it was idiots like Large Dopant White that made me stop giving updates.  I have alot of good news to spread, but i would rather wait and let the emu talk for itself when its ready for another public introduction.

[Bender_Unit_1]

QUOTE (Large Dopant white @ Aug 23 2003, 05:49 PM)

I am definately backing out of this before you turn this into another flamewar of yours, and I advise others with my view to do the same.

That makes me concerned that he still doesn't understand the truth yet...

-Bender

[Foe-hammer]

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Did you donate White? Im just wondering how someone can argue points about a contest that they didnt contribute toward.

Well said.  All complainers need to just shut their pie holes.  The emu developers do not owe you NOTHING, especially to those who didn't contribute.

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[x999x]

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[the_casanova]

The ones that make the emus do it for fun so why would they lie i dont see any reason in that...'
and you say that money need to be donated to gett emus...

Xport said him self hi dident whant any money att all
it a hoby they gott my broder is a pc coder
and hi dose it for fun dont gett any moeny att all just for fun...

this hole  scene pc xbox ps2  movie is build on shareing
i men there will be another n64 emu just let it take its time it whont gett here faster by being a bitch all the time...

if you relly whant to play n64 just gett a pc emu  until the new xbox  n64 emu is released...

and the ones released for xbox is pretty damn good!!!!


sorry for my weard port i am relly tierd there is probely a lot of spelling issues anyway take care