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Corn-O-lio

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What Happened To Ultraxle?
« on: August 22, 2003, 09:09:00 PM »

Is the project dead or they are working on a new version?? and what about Pj64-X ??
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CraiZEAH

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2003, 09:20:00 PM »

So far i know will or are Project64-X and UltraXLE merging,
so you can just use UltraXLE's new version like a plugin, who knows smile.gif
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Bender_Unit_1

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2003, 09:41:00 PM »

UltraXLE was supposed to still be in development, but we have yet to hear from the author on it.
PJ-64x is in development still. Be patient, because the wait will be worth it.
As for UltraXLE and PJ-64X merging, I don't think that will ever happen. They are two different emulators, and UltraXLE doesn't really use a plugin from what I understand...

In addition to those, 1964 is in development!, which I look forward to seeing in the future.

-Bender
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2003, 09:47:00 PM »

Lets just say that UltraXLE is a small part of a big picture. Just wait, not long now.
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Bender_Unit_1

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2003, 10:17:00 PM »

Looking forward to it. Luckily, patience is among my few virtues smile.gif

-Bender
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Large Dopant white

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2003, 10:35:00 PM »

Now that the contest is over, I don't have any faith in an update. I mean, if you just earned a cool $2500 from coding an emulator, and there's absolutely no reward for an update, would you do it? Hence, one of my big complaints about the contest (and why I think that the money should've gone to the OpenXDK project, which would yield much, much better results over the longrun). Maybe I'm wrong, but seeing as how it's been a few months and factoring in the scene trend of an update every month or no updates at all (not to mention what I've said in the above), I have little doubt that my opinion is far from the truth.

EDIT: In case it wasn't obvious, I was speaking more of PJ64X than UltraXLE, but the same opinion applies to both in different quantities. Would you want to work on an emulator when you know the other guy got a couple grand for his work, and you'll get nothing?
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2003, 11:28:00 PM »

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Now that the contest is over, I don't have any faith in an update. I mean, if you just earned a cool $2500 from coding an emulator, and there's absolutely no reward for an update, would you do it?


No faith? Well maybe you should go to church. rolleyes.gif

Why would you update it? Because to some people there are more important things than money.

It took ~6 weeks to port Pj64. During that time the Pj64 author could have been at work earning a LOT more than sitting at home working Pj64. Yet he gave a lot of the money away to the original author(s) of pj64 and the video plugin AND bought a debug xbox kit so he can increase his productivity and investigate new programming techniques for the xbox, all for who? Yes YOU! After all that he didnt get much at all.

Also if after all this time you're still bitter about the money then you really need to grow up and take a good look at yourself.

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EDIT: In case it wasn't obvious, I was speaking more of PJ64X than UltraXLE, but the same opinion applies to both in different quantities. Would you want to work on an emulator when you know the other guy got a couple grand for his work, and you'll get nothing?


Because I do it for the love of programming. I get a kick out of seeing my hard work working as I envisioned. I also enjoy seeing it being used by others and the enjoyment they get from it.

As a final note, both of us are working on something big and I know you'll like it. But for now, be paitent and stop posting stupid posts like the one you just posted.
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Bender_Unit_1

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2003, 11:34:00 PM »

People port these emulators, because it's their hobby! They enjoy what they do! The contest money was just a bonus (a good bonus wink.gif). The people who put money into the contest did so to recieve an emulator which they craved for. And we're lucky the programmers share their hard work with the scene.
There is no reason to doubt that PJ-64X is getting updated, because in time - our long awaited update will come.

-Bender

EDIT: It took me so long to type this up, oDD beat me smile.gif Also, I took out the third paragraph.. it was rediculous speculation.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2003, 12:24:00 AM »

I'm with Dopant on this. PJ64-X was done just for the money. The only reason we got a second release was because part of the prize was withheld until the R trigger was fixed.
Dunno about UltraHLE... but if I was in a particularly negative mood I would say that it too would never have existed had it not been for the contest. No contest - no releases. That's the way it is until somebody proves otherwise.

IMO 1964 will be the future of N64 emulation on the Xbox.
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Large Dopant white

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2003, 12:34:00 AM »

I'm sincerely apologetic if I offended anyone. However, I do not see my opinion as immature, only realistic. (How many people admit to being immature, however? smile.gif)
You cannot tell me sincerely that twenty-five hundred dollars isn't an incentive. That's more than what most programmers (or about 40% of the US population) make in the span of a month, so I do not find it very incomprehensible that those with the skills would take a months or so vacation to work on it (Really rough estimate, but it's around 40K a year salary to make about $2500 in a month... again, alot of people fall under this range, and porting an emulator is far less stressful than, say, listening to your boss bitch because you didn't meet a deadline).
I'm not saying the emulator isn't good. For what it is, and on the hardware it performs, it's great and quite the achievement. All I'm saying is that a legal XDK would've been more productive, as many more programmers would have flocked to the scene had there been a legal alternative to the licenced XDK. Although this is a tired argument for the subject at hand, look at the DC scene and tell me that having a legal development kit didn't have a positive effect.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2003, 03:35:00 AM »

This post made me a bit mad, so if i'm incoherent it's becuase this isn't my mother tounge and I'm upset. =)

Large Dopant white:

You are obviously doing some of that white powder, as you are NOT understanding what's happening here.

oDD said it before, but I'll say it again as you clearly didn't get it. The money that the author of PJ64-X was rewarded was partly given to the developers of the original code and he also bought a debug xbox (if you don't know what a debug xbox is used for, then please ask). $2500 isn't that much to begin with, but after theses expenses my bet is that there wasn't much left.

And wait. You think that development of UltraXLE will be halted as someone else won the competition? UltraXLE was released AFTER the competition. Think about it. Also, even AFTER oDD said that he and the author of PJ64-X will continue their work (in a joint venture, I presume), you STILL don't belivie him? I mean, wtf?

One month is not a long time. Two months is not very long either. Even if one developer got $2500 that doesn't mean he can quit his day-job and start coding for us all the time. Or is that what you belive?

Likklebaer:

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about either. The only reason people would think that 1964 is being ported by anyone is becuase oDD handed us that information.  You believed him then, why not all the other times he has spoken about N64-emlation?

oDD: Love your work. =)
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2003, 05:00:00 AM »

oDD-san, I love what you are doing.
Take your time, don't release too fast.
N64 emulation is hard, you should just
sit down and relax if you get tired coding  wink.gif
Everybody should be able to wait.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2003, 06:08:00 AM »

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No contest - no releases. That's the way it is until somebody proves otherwise.

Congrats for posting one the supidest thing ever posted here.

It amaze me how some people are STILL bitching about the contest.... you people need to move on with your lives. seriously.

We don't care whether you're doubting this or that, we don't care how you would have handeled a contest (want an open XDK contest ? sure, nice idea... then why don't you do it yourself instead of bitching ?).

Can't you people just be grateful for what you have, look forward to the upcoming releases and support coders and developers instead of being vocal asses ?

Thank you
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2003, 06:33:00 AM »

Did you donate White?  Im just wondering how someone can argue points about a contest that they didnt contribute toward.  beerchug.gif
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2003, 08:46:00 AM »

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However, I do not see my opinion as immature, only realistic.


So tell me exactly again how ignoring every truth im telling you in regards to PJ64-X, and oDD himself coming on here and saying exactly how it is....is 'only realistic' ?

Try utterly pestimistic. You are nothing but a annoying antagonist who has no insight whatsoever into the matter.
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