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kram

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« Reply #60 on: June 22, 2003, 07:02:00 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: June 22, 2003, 08:11:00 PM »

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Back to PS2... ok I'll believe in the hype when I see it. I am not trying to be one sided here just because I FUCKING HATE Sony, cause I HATE Microsloth just ass much, the PC world was great, or I should say Amiga was great and multi-tasking and doing multimedia just fine before Microsloth came around with there crappy Mac OS clone which was crappy during the days of Amiga as well. The thing is that almost everyone I know went out and bought a PS2 because they were excited about having built in DVD, and enhancing there PSONE games, this and that. And EVERY one of them (I kid you not) has had to take at least 1 or 2 of those systems back to the store because of faulty DVD, and if not that they have had to send there system back to Sony to be fixed because it either stopped turning on, or now only reads some discs but not others. Infact my weed sponcer just picked up Wolfenstein (which they had to cut down to work on the PS2 BTW), and his system will not read it, and now it is reading less and less of his games every day. He had tried cleaning the laser eye, but to no avail, so now he has to send it to Sony. My nephew is also now in this same situation where his Sony suddenly no longer turns on, just out of the blue, he takes good care of his system, then one day.... nothing. I am aware that not every XBOX is perfect either, but I can not say I have met but 2 XBOX owners who told me he had to send his in to get fixed or what not. That is in comparison to A LOT of PS2 owners I have talked to.


Bottom line though, you guys  are 100% correct, it is all in the games really, and the PS2 really can pull of some kick ass gfx no doubt. But they did lie, they are over priced, and the Dreamcast can come damn near everything the PS2 can do, just give it a DVD to store more data if you wanna pull off Grand Turismo. Another thing is you take the Genesis and compare it to the SNES, yes they were both 16-bit, and aside of color palette they were equal in terms of GFX, but the SNES had mode 7, and many other Amgia demo like features that the Genesis did not, which ment the SNES could take games to a new level that did not rely on GFX to make that impact, but rather how the GFX could be manipulated. yes, of course the Genesis later found a way to emulate Mode 7, and multi-layered levels and what not, but not at the expence of system resources which took away from the rest of the game.

With the PS2 and XBOX there is the same situation. PS2 IS limited with 4MB video ram with no compression, and how you can assume that there is some magical way not to be effected by that I don't know and have yet to see. This has definatly had an impact on Poly count otherwise there would be no reason for the XBOX ports of Wolfensteind Splinter Cell, Run Like Hell, Silent Hill 2, ect  ect ect to be better with more game features, more polys, sharper picture, special lighting ticks that only NVIDIA supplies atm. Ect. Plus you only pay one freaking bill for you on-line play, rather than paying multiple bills. You can't teach an old dog new tricks, and you can't make a PS2 do things that its hardware was not designed to do. You might be able to pull off a few cheap imitations yet, but at the expence of more resources which the PS2 can not sacrifice.

Some day I may well buy one though, when they are about at the price of a Dreamcast and a generic DVD players, say $100 bucks? They are worth that much at least considering there is half the RAM of XBOX, no Hard Drive, crap ass DVD, (at least the CPU is good) ect. I mean come on now, if someone offered you a PC with:

400 Mhz CPU, 32 MB RAM, off Brand DVD and a 8 GB Hard Drive for $300

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800 Mhz CPu, 64MB RAM, name brand DVD, and a 20GB hard drive for $300 which would you buy?


That is how I think when I buy consoles. Sorry but that is me. And yes the whole XBOX Dev sceen really makes things even more awsome!


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« Reply #62 on: June 22, 2003, 11:35:00 PM »

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That which does rock:

Halo
007 Agent Under Fire
007 Night Fire
Blood Omen 2
Dead Or Alive 3
Dr. Muto
Dragon's Lair 3D
Indiana Jones
Dark Forces III: Jedi Knight 2
Mech Assault
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Quake II (he he)
Red Faction II (after you play it a while)
Robotech Battlecry
Serious Sam (1 and 2)
Silent Hill 2
Spy Hunter
Jet Set Radio
The Thing
Tiem Splitters 2
Tony Hawk (pick one)
Turok (mildly graphical) Evolution
Unreal Championship (and I am so sick of DM)
Vexx
Wolfenstien (I mock the Sony version)
Wreckless (usually hate racing, but this is kool)
Enter The Matrix
Buffy (if only she would shut the fuck out though, I hate her, but this is fun)


I don't know wtf your talking about .. a few of those games are freakin horrible...

007 Agent Under Fire ..sucks (i own it, bought it for the savegame exploit)
Dragon's Lair 3D ...sucks (i love the game, but it could have been done SOOOO much better!)

I have a feeling Nightfire isn't any beter then AUF... but yeah, alot of those games mentioned aren't exclusive either....

Don't get me wrong, i love my xbox ... i only have about 4-5 games for mine at the moment (Splinter Cell, Amped, Halo, 007: AUF, Air Force Delta Storm).. and i ownly own 3 GC games (Bloody Roar, Zelda, Metroid)... the games are comparable.. i mean, these games can't really be compared.. but still, the consoles are both great ... get over it.

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« Reply #63 on: June 22, 2003, 11:36:00 PM »

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« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2003, 07:03:00 AM »

QUOTE (kram @ Jun 22 2003, 11:02 PM)
Also, if you wanna see a complete idiot look at bombzhome because this whole topic is basically offtopic! lol laugh.gif

umm i dont think u wanna talk cuz look under ur name...is says "X-S Newbie" get outta here with that B|TCH cuz ur a n00b and u aint know jack squat!
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« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2003, 07:55:00 AM »

QUOTE (bombzhome @ Jun 23 2003, 04:03 PM)
QUOTE (kram @ Jun 22 2003, 11:02 PM)
Also, if you wanna see a complete idiot look at bombzhome because this whole topic is basically offtopic! lol laugh.gif

umm i dont think u wanna talk cuz look under ur name...is says "X-S Newbie" get outta here with that B|TCH cuz ur a n00b and u aint know jack squat!

I think he was basing his opinion of you (and it is correct I might add) on your two post's within this thread. This is
an EMULATION forum within Xbox-Scene. That means that other talk of systems is ok here. Got it? Good. As far as your comments on the "Gaycube" (as you called it), did you ever even PLAY a Gamecube game? Let's put it this way, if I could only own one system, it would be an Xbox no doubt. But since this is a free country, I got a Gamecube too.
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« Reply #66 on: June 23, 2003, 07:56:00 AM »

what a bunch of unhappy poeple , ive had a modded ps2 for awhile now with alot of games, then i bought a gamecube and not long ago i bought an xbox.

the xbox scene is great and the emulators and media players on xbox are so good.

a few people here mentioned ps2 was a dreamcast with a dvd.  

the dreamcast was running M$ os. and half these emulators and things you could get on dreamcast. if anything a dreamcast with a dvd. its the xbox

gamecubes worth owning just to marvel at its size.
you can use an xbox for your gamecube to sit on.
i think the games on gamecube are fun too.
and if no one else has noticed theres alot of GC rips floating around at the moment. i can only hope it gets the chance that xbox got with homebrew utilities and modchips.

snes was king. then ps1. now ps2 sells 30,million to xboxes 5 million. even if these people are buying 3 ps2's each because of the laser wearing out there still selling twice as many as xbox.

someone said nintendo is going to die like sega did.
the no.1 selling console is gameboy. never forget that.

i think the games on ps2 run at a high framerate. gotham and segaGT arent anywhere near as smooth or as playable as gran turismo. vice city and FFX are great games too. so please give the old giant a break.

to the guy that said dreamcast could do gran turismo if it had dvd. so wrong. do i need to mention gt4 being the highlight of e3 console games?

xbox rules but its big and heavy and if it falls it can harm small children (says so in the manual)

buy a gamecube because it cute and fun
buy a ps2 because its smooth and fast  arcade style games.
buy an xbox because it has divx , awesome dvd playback and halo (and of course emus)

there all good
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guile

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« Reply #67 on: June 23, 2003, 08:05:00 AM »

QUOTE (inty @ Jun 23 2003, 04:56 PM)
buy a gamecube because it cute and fun
buy a ps2 because its smooth and fast  arcade style games.
buy an xbox because it has divx , awesome dvd playback and halo (and of course emus)

there all good

I agree...to a point. I am still not a fan of the Ps2. I won't trash it though. As much as I LOVE/LOVED my Dreamcast, I do not
think it could match the Ps2 even with a DVD player. I just feel most cross platform games will be better on Xbox the Ps2
anyways, so why should I own a Ps2? For Vice City? It is one of the best games for sure, but there is not enough of an
attraction for me to own a Ps2. And I did own one, but got bored and sold it. So I have played quite a few Ps2 games. I
would like a Tekken game on Xbox though:(
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inty

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« Reply #68 on: June 23, 2003, 08:34:00 AM »

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« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2003, 08:47:00 AM »

QUOTE (inty @ Jun 23 2003, 04:56 PM)
the dreamcast was running M$ os.

No it was not.  The logo on the front of the DC said "Windows CE compatible"   NOT
"Powered by Windows CE"

The DC did not load windows CE every time you turn it on.  I was capible of running Windows CE if a game was writen to on it, but I do not think many games did.
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inty

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« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2003, 09:14:00 AM »

i would assume its similar to the xbox. the xbox has custom win2k kernel and i feel correct in saying xbox uses a M$ OS. i read an article somewhere that M$ approached sony, nintendo and sega and offered them OS's and sega took them up on it. nintendo and sony didnt want M$ OS's (this was before dreamcast ps2 and gamecube were out)
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« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2003, 09:37:00 AM »

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Who ever said get over it abou the Gamecube...

...I have NO problems with the Gamecube man, it is a great system, not quite an XBOX due to the lack of hard drive, real DVD, and NVIDIA, but I definatly intend to own one sooner or later, cash is just kinda short right now, it is just PS2 that makes me sick to my stomache. smile.gif
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« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2003, 09:44:00 AM »

QUOTE (Lowen Na @ Jun 23 2003, 05:47 PM)
QUOTE (inty @ Jun 23 2003, 04:56 PM)
the dreamcast was running M$ os.

No it was not.  The logo on the front of the DC said "Windows CE compatible"   NOT
"Powered by Windows CE"

The DC did not load windows CE every time you turn it on.  I was capible of running Windows CE if a game was writen to on it, but I do not think many games did.

it did use the core of windows CE. half-life was written in it for dc, it was dropped before they made it for dc only
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« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2003, 06:51:00 PM »

lol STOP with this non sense crap about these other consoles....XBOX IS THE BEST NO DOUBT ABOUT IT...those of u who think it isnt...ur prolly NOT on high-speed internet cuz ud be downloading Linux and GenTooX and that kinda stuff!
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« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2003, 10:11:00 PM »

god i hate dance dance games. buncha sweaty goths at the mall think they're cool by crowding the arcade and looking like fools with epilepsy
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