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Iriez

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« on: June 11, 2003, 05:58:00 AM »

From http://www.xbins.org ...

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Contest Note

After speaking with the developer and judging the communities overall feelings on the matter, i have decided these things..

The author will not recieve his compensation for goals 1 & 2 met until he fixes the R trigger issue. He will fix this, aswell as release a MUCH improved version in a short amount of time. I personally feel that the public will be overall much more happy with the next beta.
Yes, that also means that the contest for goal 3 is still open. To be realistic though, it is very unlikely that anyone but the current author will meet it.

On a more personal side note, both me and the author are very disappointed with the current negativity regarding the contest and the beta. Its gone far enough for the author to consider just quitting the project. If this is how the populace wants to give thanks and respect, then further development in the xbox scene is going to be a extreamily poor one without developers like him on the team.


I might follow up more on the matter after work, im out.
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2003, 06:10:00 AM »




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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2003, 06:23:00 AM »



Iriez, PLEASE point the author to the PJ64 appreciation thread and tell him chin up...these idiots know not what they do (I think it's called cutting their noses off to spite their faces)
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2003, 06:25:00 AM »

Who really cares if he did it for the money, challenge, fun, or boredom.....the point is, he HAS his reason's, and half the freaking community (most probably the half that is just starting they're 3 month summer vacation) is giving him more reasons NOT to deal with it.

And christ, the donaters did NOT pay him to do this, they donated towards a concept, it's not his/her fault that no one else entered the contest.

If the winner of youre local lottery dosnt buy a Yacht ou like, are you all gonna stone him to death???

Just keep yur britches on and WAIT!

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2003, 06:33:00 AM »

QUOTE (Iriez @ Jun 11 2003, 02:58 PM)
From http://www.xbins.org ...

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Contest Note

After speaking with the developer and judging the communities overall feelings on the matter, i have decided these things..

The author will not recieve his compensation for goals 1 & 2 met until he fixes the R trigger issue. He will fix this, aswell as release a MUCH improved version in a short amount of time. I personally feel that the public will be overall much more happy with the next beta.
Yes, that also means that the contest for goal 3 is still open. To be realistic though, it is very unlikely that anyone but the current author will meet it.

On a more personal side note, both me and the author are very disappointed with the current negativity regarding the contest and the beta. Its gone far enough for the author to consider just quitting the project. If this is how the populace wants to give thanks and respect, then further development in the xbox scene is going to be a extreamily poor one without developers like him on the team.


I might follow up more on the matter after work, im out.

Thank you very much for this post!
I personally was happy enough with the first release and i am amazed that a better release will be out! I do understand the authors feeling though with all the bitching that is going on....people just aren't gratefull because they expect too much now! As someone mentioned point him to the thread of thanks as that is where the non-flamers/bitchers want to air our appreciation. I once again thank you and the author for the hardwork...some people don't realise that you (Iriez) have gained aboloutly nothing from this and i am surprised at how you have managed to restrain yourself from flaming back... thanks again!
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2003, 06:36:00 AM »

thanks for the response Iriez, it is well deserved unfortunately.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2003, 06:50:00 AM »

you'll always cop a few negative comments, they are usually unwarrented IMO... these people just don't realise they are LUCKY to get ANYTHING!

But in this case I think a lot of people were mislead into thinking all those games were going to run PERFECT which wasn't the case... even though you (iriez) said it wouldn't be perfect (or something to that tune) I think most people were expecting more and that's where the negative comments come from.

Anyway this emu is BIG news, it's already the best N64 emu for xbox so i'm sure most people are stoked.

One more thing, a lot of the negativity i've seen isn't really harsh or anything... I mean i've seen a lot of "Mario64 is the only perfect game" type of thing and it's pretty close to the truth... I just hope the author doesn't see that stuff as criticism.

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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2003, 06:56:00 AM »

QUOTE (Iriez @ Jun 11 2003, 02:58 PM)
From http://www.xbins.org ...

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Contest Note

After speaking with the developer and judging the communities overall feelings on the matter, i have decided these things..

The author will not recieve his compensation for goals 1 & 2 met until he fixes the R trigger issue. He will fix this, aswell as release a MUCH improved version in a short amount of time. I personally feel that the public will be overall much more happy with the next beta.
Yes, that also means that the contest for goal 3 is still open. To be realistic though, it is very unlikely that anyone but the current author will meet it.

On a more personal side note, both me and the author are very disappointed with the current negativity regarding the contest and the beta. Its gone far enough for the author to consider just quitting the project. If this is how the populace wants to give thanks and respect, then further development in the xbox scene is going to be a extreamily poor one without developers like him on the team.


I might follow up more on the matter after work, im out.

Well Iriez I think most of the negative comments are by people who have little experience of the emulation scene as a whole. Anyone who's played with emulators over the last few years knows what to expect I mean you've got a lot of people expecting it to play games than won't run on PJ64 on the pc. You might get one or 2 people who donated feeling cheated but I think most people didn't believe by donating a tenner they'd have a perfect N64 emu (If they did they were niave)


I have faith in the emu but after all it's just another emu and there's no need to cream your pants because of it.

You did say there would be issues and I think most people forget that me I'm as happy as a pig in muck.


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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2003, 07:10:00 AM »

just wanted to say thanx to u Iriez and thanx to the author of this emu , for that matter thanx to all the emu authors, u guys make my days better :]   if mario is the only game that ever (which its not) works perfect its more then we ever should have had, people don't seem to realize that your not supposed to b able to play an N64 on the xbox at all and without u we wouldn't ..  keep up the good work and i'm excited to hear of a new version :]  thanx again.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2003, 07:28:00 AM »

I just wanted to add my voice to the several people on the board that think that pj64-x, and the contest, is the best thing to hit the scene in a long long time.  Sure, you could nitpick about the R button, but really who cares.. we have a good working emu beyond anyone's realistic expectations, and there is fixes on the way....

anyway, great work (whoever wrote the emu) ... and thank you very much Iriez for arranging all this and getting the donations together to get this off the ground.  I think what alot of people are forgetting is that we probably wouldn't have a working (with sound) n64 emu otherwise.

The emu rocks, the contest got it to us, I'm willing to look past any slight descrepencies in the contest rules or what have you... who cares, I didn't donate, and I'm finding most of the people complaining about the contest specifics didn't donate either.  

The xbox mod scene is kind of unique in that alot of people who were never in any mod scene before are in this one.  The learning curve is relatively low and the mods are readily available, causing every newb and his brother to have a modded xbox and lurk here.  As such, the signal to noise ratio gets pretty low, and we have lot more cry babies, nitpickers and fanboy's comparitively speaking.   It must be hard to put up with from a developers standpoint.  But I think it's important for the devs and coders to know that the old-school and the hardcore are still here and we ABSOLUTELY appreciate all thats being done FOR FREE in this very cool scene.  Seriously, no other console, nor the PC for that matter, has had this level of emu and homebrew support this early in the scene.  It's unreal.  It may be a little hard to hear our cheers through all of the immature and ill-founded jeers, but we are here.

Thanks.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2003, 08:17:00 AM »

I know I'm a fairly new to this scene but I have to say that I think this emu is the shit.  It shows very good potential.  I personlly woud be fine if it just played mario but it looks like it can/will do much more.  I think a major problem with this emu in most peoples mind is that they had their expectations way to high for a first release.  I think this is in a way X-Ports fault.  Before you start flamming let me explain.  When he released his first try at the psx it played way to many games to well.  Not that this is a bad thing but I think people came to expect that someone would be able to do the same thing with the n64.  The fact is these systems are completely different.  That and I'm pretty sure X-port and his team worked on his port a lot longer than the person(s) who ported pj64.  They werent under any pressure to release anything until they were happy with it.

The bottom line is that this emu is very good for a first release, the potential is there.  I for one would like to thank the author of this emu and every other person who helps me enjoy my xbox that much more!
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2003, 08:22:00 AM »

I love N64 ! Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please  keep up the good work !

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Man don't stop now that you are so close !
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2003, 09:13:00 AM »

QUOTE (badmonkey @ Jun 11 2003, 05:26 PM)
I don't think the problem ever was with the quality of the emulator, or with people thinking it needing to be more.

The problem was with the info not forthcoming about the contest aspect of it. People were just directed to a web page that stated that The Contest is Over. Clearly the released version was not meeting the requirements as people understood them, and I don't think there is anything wrong with people requesting/demanding proper information about it.

I am sure that there are plenty of people also upset that there is only one entry, but nothing can be done about that. Though it won't change the dissapointment. A contest loses a bit of something if there is no competition in it. I would even think the coders would be a bit dissapointed not having the extra drive to beat out the competition. As said though... What can ya do? If no one else enters, then no one else enters.

I would, as would anyone else I'm sure, be very dissapointed if the developers quit their work. It is definately not their work, which is at an excellent start, and is a most welcome and wanted addition to the Xbox emu library, that we find fault and bitch about. It is in the lack of info about the contest, and the developers must definately not confuse this into being about them, or what they are doing.

That pretty much sum's it up. But no, I am takin as a whinny bitch who has little exp in the scene and no "real world job"? Please, wtf does that have to do with anything anyway???  I am not putting down this emu in any way, shape or form. I
just find it hard to think an author is going to possibly give up work for a few negative comments. (which weren't made by
me btw). There are some bitter people posting negative comments here but I think a few of those people have an agenda.
They were the same people who were fighting over the contest from the onset. And I think Iriez know's who/what I'm taking about.  This is a fantastic emu with amazing potential. Potential I hope is realized.
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2003, 09:21:00 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2003, 09:22:00 AM »

Whenever something new is about to come out, people are bound to get their hopes up. If we set our expectations too high, we are bound to be let down. Here's an example of why some people are disappointed: Phase 1 of the contest requires that the emulator can handle 8MB ROMS. So instead of making a safe assumption that a few 8MB ROMS will work perfectly, some people assumed that a large number of them would.

But now that reality has set in, I presume people will become more positive as compatibility increases and bugs are worked out.

Nice job on the emulator, whoever made it.
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