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GLiTcH

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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2003, 11:59:00 AM »

QUOTE (bad mr frosty @ Mar 30 2003, 04:24 PM)
QUOTE (shortasswattsy @ Mar 30 2003, 01:24 PM)
cheerz bad mr frosty, works now, however i now have a different problem, my sonic cd game consists of a .iso, a .cue file, and 30+ .wav files, when i play the game i have no sound, any1 know how to fix this?
cheerz again,
-Adx

The naming of the tracks must conform to this standard:

The data track (.ISO) should be named something like sonic.iso

then each audio track should be named sonic 02.wav, sonic 03.wav etc.

so:

sonic.iso
sonic 02.wav
sonic 03.wav
sonic 04.wav
etc

I have not tried .wav files for the audio tracks so if the you name the tracks as above and it still does not work convert the wav`s to mp3.

fatal fury special works.. with sound..... had to upload iso n mp3 files to the roms folder.. i f i zip them all together it wont run sad.gif .. o well... at least i got it working... jester.gif
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2003, 01:37:00 PM »

QUOTE (Shafted! @ Mar 30 2003, 04:22 PM)
Can Gens v0.08 also play regular sega genesis roms?

yes
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GLiTcH

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2003, 01:41:00 PM »

QUOTE (razorrifh @ Mar 30 2003, 10:37 PM)
QUOTE (Shafted! @ Mar 30 2003, 04:22 PM)
Can Gens v0.08 also play regular sega genesis roms?

yes

and 32x games also
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2003, 07:29:00 PM »

for some of my genesis roms the screen is pushed to the right a few inches does anyone else have this problem
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2003, 08:33:00 PM »

How do you rip these things!?!? I totally forget how I did this, if I recall correctly I used CDRWIN and I believe BINHACK?

Can anyone refresh me on this?
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2003, 08:58:00 PM »

This website should help you out.

http://www.litespeed.../cdrwin_rip.htm

have fun
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2003, 09:39:00 PM »

smile.gif

For those who do not want to open another window:

Howto copy your Sega CD's into ISO and MP3's
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Get CDRWIn
Load it up and select the 3rd Icon from the Top Left, the one that has the picture of a CD behind what looks like an External Hard Drive.
Ok, now you should have a new window open, now you need to go through and select these options:
1. DISC IMAGE / CUE SHEET
2. CDROM WITH GAME DISC
3. DESTINATION FOR FILES AND IMAGE NAME
4. READING OPTIONS RAW
5. ERROR RECOVERY ABORT
6. JITTER CORRECTION AUTO
7. SUBCODE ANALYSIS FULL (OR DISABLED IF YOUR CDROM DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS)
8. READ RETRY COUNT 15 OR MORE
9. THE SLOWER YOU SET YOUR AUDIO READ THE BETTER THE RESULTS
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Ok, now with all of that set, you simply hit srart, let it do its work, then convert the wav files over to mp3's with your program of choice. After that make sure everything is named in the correct order so that Gens will pick them up, then copy them to the roms folder (zip compression does not seem to work).


So far EVERYTHING I have thrown at the XBOX has worked, that is all CD titles.
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2003, 10:00:00 PM »

QUOTE (XDelusion @ Mar 31 2003, 01:39 AM)
Just found that, thankx! smile.gif

For those who do not want to open another window:

Howto copy your Sega CD's into ISO and MP3's
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Get CDRWIn
Load it up and select the 3rd Icon from the Top Left, the one that has the picture of a CD behind what looks like an External Hard Drive.
Ok, now you should have a new window open, now you need to go through and select these options:
1. DISC IMAGE / CUE SHEET
2. CDROM WITH GAME DISC
3. DESTINATION FOR FILES AND IMAGE NAME
4. READING OPTIONS RAW
5. ERROR RECOVERY ABORT
6. JITTER CORRECTION AUTO
7. SUBCODE ANALYSIS FULL (OR DISABLED IF YOUR CDROM DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS)
8. READ RETRY COUNT 15 OR MORE
9. THE SLOWER YOU SET YOUR AUDIO READ THE BETTER THE RESULTS
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Ok, now with all of that set, you simply hit srart, let it do its work, then convert the wav files over to mp3's with your program of choice. After that make sure everything is named in the correct order so that Gens will pick them up, then copy them to the roms folder (zip compression does not seem to work).


So far EVERYTHING I have thrown at the XBOX has worked, that is all CD titles.

1) This tutorial isn't in the link
2) CDRWIN doesn't feature these options...

So...?
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XDelusion

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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2003, 10:15:00 PM »

Sega CD games have a small area of sectors at the end of the data track that can not be read in the normal way. This causes an error in CDRWIN when attempting to rip the ISO on it's own as a Selected track (although ripping in BIN format is fine). The following is an alternative method for creating ISOs using CDRWIN and BINChunker that is tried and trusted. Follow steps 1 to 3 above to create a full BIN + CUE set.

Run BINChunker and select Load Cue from the File menu. Browse to and Open the CUE file. You will now see the track layout of the BIN file.

From the Options menu make sure that the Data Tracks are set to Mode 1 - 2048 bytes per sector.

Select the first track (data) and Convert from the Action menu, which will create an ISO file and save it to the same folder as the BIN.
Please Note : I don't use BINChunker to extract the audio as WAV (for conversion to MP3), because in my opinion, it doesn't do it properly. It seems to insert the 2 second pregaps as 2 seconds of silence at the start of each track, which is not correct.

You can now safely delete the BIN + CUE set (you've got what you want from it).

Run SCDCONV (from DOS) to check the validity of the ISO. If it displays the name of the game and country format, then it's valid. If not, RAW mode may have been left on when ripping, or there may be some other hardware / software issue.
Quit SCDCONV without making any changes.

Run a program like Audio Catalyst or Audio Grabber to rip the audio. Both have optional MP3 codecs to encode the audio. The minimum encoding bitrate should be 128k, although 160k or 192k are preferred. Normalisation should not be necessary, since the idea is to replicate the original as closely as possible.

The ISO + MP3 set is now ready for naming, compression and uploading.



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These naming conventions are principles, not rules, and shouldn't be taken as gospel. They're basically just methods that I've found useful to keep my game archives clean and easy to manage. It also means the files will make sense to the users at the other end who download them.
Raw ISO + MP3 files Data track - Track 01.iso
Audio tracks - Track 02.mp3, Track 03.mp3 etc...
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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2003, 11:13:00 PM »

how is the sound emulation on it? is it as accurate as the win32 version?
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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2003, 12:05:00 AM »

I got genesis, 32x, and sega cd bin/cue games all working with .08.  Has anyone fixed the sega CD problem so games are centered?
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XDelusion

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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2003, 12:30:00 AM »

What do you mean so games are centered?


Ya, that ripping guide is somewhat outdated, I updated a few things here and there when I posed it, but I did forget to mention that I use  CDRWIN 3.9.

As for dealing with the Audio, I used Fireburn to convert the BIN to ISO, then of course to rip all audio, after which I used Lame to convert all the wav into mp3.

Everything worked first try for me.


 I hope the MODs don't mind I brought up this subject in the forums, I can delete it if you want, but I was thinking of Sega CD in this way:


1. Sega never seemed to mind the dcemulation sceen, infact they seemed to favor it, not to mention Sega CD never took off, and will prolly not raise there concerns much.

2. The guide is here because GensX does not support the use of actual Sega CD's, thus we need to know howto convert them to file format.

3. You can buy Sega CD's off ebay for $1.00 a piece, give or take a handful of titles which actually made it somewhere, so to be blunt it would REALLY be a waste of anyone's time to try to download this crap, let alone find someone who actually collects it, you would save yourself a butt load of trouble just going to Ebay, trust me, I have been there, and no one collects but me and a couple other people it seems! :/ (glad I decided to do so for that matter, it is paying off now)
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2003, 01:48:00 AM »

I have Sega CD games off center - they're off to the right a bit.
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2003, 02:24:00 AM »

QUOTE (chango @ Mar 31 2003, 10:48 AM)
I have Sega CD games off center - they're off to the right a bit.

I have the same problem.

Maybe it's because GensX can't handle games using 256 pixels wide mode?

(Megadrive used 2 display modes, 256*224 and 320*224, if i remember correctly)
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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2003, 06:29:00 AM »

blink.gif . What do I use to patch the Xbe so I can play it on my retail Xbox with an old xcuter v1 chip.

Thanks
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