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old engineer

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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2006, 02:25:00 AM »

QUOTE(jalibhoy @ May 19 2006, 08:44 AM) View Post

nope...just normal AV cables. I have a feeling it could be due to the video chip. Mine is a Focus.

I have not found another bios that works....

Puzzling thing is I have another debug kit (the green translucent one) and it works flawlessly with the Hack_dev_kit...



Lol, Hack_dev_kit is only meant to be used on genuine Debug/Dev Kits.

...A Focus chip/modded Xbox was never meant to run Hack_dev_kit.
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2006, 02:29:00 AM »

QUOTE(old engineer @ May 19 2006, 09:32 AM) View Post

Lol, Hack_dev_kit is only meant to be used on genuine Debug/Dev Kits.

...A Focus chip/modded Xbox was never meant to run Hack_dev_kit.


bro, mine is a genuine debug kit with a FOCUS chip....it is not a modded box.
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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2006, 03:21:00 AM »

QUOTE(jalibhoy @ May 19 2006, 03:36 AM) View Post

bro, mine is a genuine debug kit with a FOCUS chip....it is not a modded box.


Does your Nvidia chip look just like this one.If so then it a debug kit,if it says MCPX X3 than its retail.
http://i4.photobucke...nson/MCPXX2.jpg

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2006, 04:49:00 AM »

Yup its a true debug kit,was it made in 2002 by chance.It looks like you have the latest model,which is very rare,I wonder how many MS made.Also the reason I believe the Hack_devkit_GueuX_V2 is not working is because is does not support the Focus chip.As you said it works fine on your other debug kit,which should have a Conexant chip.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2006, 10:13:00 AM »

QUOTE(programmingace @ May 19 2006, 02:34 PM) View Post

that xbox doesn't happen to have a sticker on the bottom that says "prototype" does it?

sounds like it's a leftover from one of the upgrade projects (qt/barcelona/xblade). Either that, or M$ ran out of 1.0 debuggers at some point.

One thing to remember with debug xboxes, anything is possible. I have an xblade proto with no tsop or lpc header. Works fine, just like any other debug.

Personally, i would think the focus chip would lead to issues down the road with running custom bios'. It would be curious for M$ to send them out 'en mass to devs.


it does have a sticker that says prototype and Live enabled.


could someone mod the bios so that it could support these Focus chips?
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2006, 01:08:00 PM »

QUOTE(jalibhoy @ May 19 2006, 01:20 PM) View Post


it does have a sticker that says prototype and Live enabled.


could someone mod the bios so that it could support these Focus chips?

Only thing I could think of is that it might be a beta live debug kit. Those run a different kernel which means hack_devkit will not work correctly. If that's the case, you might be out of luck.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2006, 02:01:00 PM »

Does it have the letters "QT" anywhere on the bottom? Sounds like a QT proto to me. Those were also "live enabled". I didn't realize they used the Focus chip in those, i might have to open mine someday. If it's not QT, it's barcelona.

Either way, we're talking about a pretty rare system, even by dev standards. Limited to a few hundred pices at most. Depending on the revision number, the system may have fatal design flaws that could cause it to die an early death. Or not, who knows? It's probably best not to treat it as a normal debugger.

Oh, and there's a good likelyhood that the hard drive is locked.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2006, 11:10:00 AM »

QUOTE(atomiX @ May 19 2006, 08:15 PM) View Post

Only thing I could think of is that it might be a beta live debug kit. Those run a different kernel which means hack_devkit will not work correctly. If that's the case, you might be out of luck.



It's not one of those, they have 128mb RAM, the one in the pics only has 64mb!
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cazadores

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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2006, 08:13:00 AM »

(zomg hijack.)

I have a genuine XDK running GueuX but I can't seem to get any games (retail or otherwise) to run in 16:9. I can change the resolution of the launcher to 1920x1024 but it doesn't seem to "stick" for games when they are booted up. I'm fairly dumb, so I'm probably missing something simple here. PM me if you can help. Thanks!
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programmingace

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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2006, 04:18:00 PM »

The gueux bios doesn't support the s-video package, it may not support other video methods either. Try switching to 16:9 with the standard bios and see if that works.
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cazadores

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2006, 10:18:00 AM »

QUOTE(programmingace @ Jun 20 2006, 06:25 PM) View Post

The gueux bios doesn't support the s-video package, it may not support other video methods either. Try switching to 16:9 with the standard bios and see if that works.


Then the problem becomes not being able to boot games. The original/factory XDK BIOS did not allow me to boot retail nor homebrew games.

I currently have the XDK hooked up to my 42" LCD TV via Component cables (with the Xbox HD AV pack) and it displays 4:3/480p just fine. I can "stretch" the image as a function of the TV, but then the games look distorted. As I said previously, I can change the resolution of the Launcher to 1920x1024, but the setting does not appear to persist for the games, once booted.

I think I might be confusing the functionality of the BIOS versus the dashboard/launcher. In the XDK Launcher, I see no option to permanently change the system to 16:9 like I suspect there is in a retail xbox's dashboard. Should I be pursuing a non-XDK dashboard/launcher while still using the gueux bios?

Another thing to note... when I run Avalaunch, it runs in 16:9/1080i (as does XBMC), but under "options" it says that widescreen is disabled (presumably for games). I go to change this and it complains that the HDD is locked. I unlock the HDD and try to change it again, and it whines about something to do with "all writing to EEPROM disabled."
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2006, 04:43:00 PM »

QUOTE(cazadores @ Jun 22 2006, 12:25 PM) View Post

Then the problem becomes not being able to boot games. The original/factory XDK BIOS did not allow me to boot retail nor homebrew games.

I currently have the XDK hooked up to my 42" LCD TV via Component cables (with the Xbox HD AV pack) and it displays 4:3/480p just fine. I can "stretch" the image as a function of the TV, but then the games look distorted. As I said previously, I can change the resolution of the Launcher to 1920x1024, but the setting does not appear to persist for the games, once booted.

I think I might be confusing the functionality of the BIOS versus the dashboard/launcher. In the XDK Launcher, I see no option to permanently change the system to 16:9 like I suspect there is in a retail xbox's dashboard. Should I be pursuing a non-XDK dashboard/launcher while still using the gueux bios?

Another thing to note... when I run Avalaunch, it runs in 16:9/1080i (as does XBMC), but under "options" it says that widescreen is disabled (presumably for games). I go to change this and it complains that the HDD is locked. I unlock the HDD and try to change it again, and it whines about something to do with "all writing to EEPROM disabled."



I'm not convinced that Avalaunch interfaces with debug eeproms right, i've seen multiple errors over the years.

In order to set a debug xbox to use widescreen, from the XDK launcher select the retail dashboard and change the settings from there.

As i said before, i'm not sure the Gueux bios supports anything other than composite (Standard RCA cable) connections. I know it doesn't support S-Video. I don't have a HDTV to test this with so i'm not sure.

In order to run retail/homebrew on a debug without the gueux bios, you can convert the xbe using dexbe. Just open the application, open up the xbe on your pc and hit patch as debug (just close the application from there, do not save the changes).
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cazadores

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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2006, 05:07:00 PM »

QUOTE(programmingace @ Jun 22 2006, 06:50 PM) View Post

In order to set a debug xbox to use widescreen, from the XDK launcher select the retail dashboard and change the settings from there.


That must be the problem.... I don't see a selection for the retail dashboard in the XDK launcher. I'll check the usual spots for a copy of the retail dashboard, but I never quite figured out how to add items to the XDK launcher. Does it have to be run from the launcher, or can I run evox/avalaunch from the launcher, then run the retail dashboard from there?

Thanks for your patience.

one small problem... I can't find the retail dashboard on xbins.... it's nowhere under /XBOX/apps/dashboards
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cazadores

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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2006, 06:03:00 PM »

strange... incredible hulk: ultimate destruction plays in 720p/16:9 when I launch it from XBMC (which itself is already in 1080i/16:9)
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cazadores

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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2006, 07:23:00 AM »

720p is always 16:9... there's no such thing as 720p/4:3. I'd really like to get this niggling issue resolved, since the Xbox has a much larger number of games that support 480p/16:9 than the other two current-gen consoles (at least according to HDTV Arcade). can someone please clue me in to where I might get the latest retail dashboard for my XDK?
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