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Nailed

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« on: January 19, 2003, 04:26:00 PM »

Make a BIOS?  If you have to ask something like this, then you ain't gonna be "making" any BIOS'.

Seriously, though... I think taking a college level operating systems class would be a good start.
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deadbyte

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2003, 08:55:00 PM »

QUOTE (Nailed @ Jan 20 2003, 12:26 AM)
Make a BIOS?  If you have to ask something like this, then you ain't gonna be "making" any BIOS'.

Seriously, though... I think taking a college level operating systems class would be a good start.

Well either answer the question or get a hint. Obviously I wish to make a bios for the Xbox, and looking for a tutorial or somewhere to start ONLINE to learn. I myself never heard of a college level operating system class, I hope your not making crap up cause I will look into this.
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xMonoxide187x

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2003, 09:22:00 PM »

Hahaha. laugh.gif
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2003, 12:52:00 AM »

You will have to be pretty highly advanced in computer programming and science/electronics. The people that cracked the Xbox originally were mainly PHDs from MIT.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2003, 10:44:00 AM »

Just go get FanCBios, it will let you customize the BIOS of your choice.

This is getting to be more of an annoyance then funny....
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xMonoxide187x

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2003, 12:47:00 PM »

Let me spell it out for you. As of now...with your current knowledge...

Y - o - u   c - a - n - n - o - t  w - r - i - t - e  y - o - u -r   o - w - n   b - i - o - s

But you can edit it with FanCBios
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2003, 01:35:00 PM »

just one question......where is the need to program your own bios?
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xMonoxide187x

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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2003, 02:22:00 PM »

Maybe for the bootup challenge...or to implement Screenshots from MS's Debug BIOS into EvoX or something.
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2003, 02:30:00 PM »

deadbyte - just a quick note.... "writing a bios" is one of the more difficult and specialized things you can do as a programmer. It involves delving into low-level code and understanding the enormous complexity of modern computer systems, to provide interfaces and to initialize the many devices that exist in such a system, as well as manage many low-level resources.

I've written countless embedded applications on systems ranging from 6809, Z80, various Intel and even ARM processors over the last decade, and even I consider "writing a BIOS" a daunting task.

So when you are greeted with derisive responses, don't take it too personally, the reaction is to your naivete, not to you personally. If you are really interested in the inner workings of BIOSes and operating systems, I suggest you start with Computer Science classes, along with an engineering discipline.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2003, 04:35:00 PM »

Deadbyte,


If you are interested in writing a bios for the xbox, there is an open source LINUX bios available through the xbox-linux project at sourceforge.  It is caleld cromwell, and I think it would be a good start for you to look at.



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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2003, 12:04:00 PM »

Where the hell did you get your Computer Science degree? Do they even have computers there?

My school: (St. Cloud State University) CSCI 310. Introduction to Operating Systems
Closest other school: (University of Minnesota) CSCI 4061. Introduction to Operating Systems.
I'm pretty sure every decent college in this country has a class like these.
Computer Architecture classes are equally if not more important, IMHO.

There is only one bios (outside of MS's) that has been written entirely from scratch (that I know of), and that is the Cromwell bios. There are no tutorials for how to make your own.

If you are trying to write a bios to get unbanned from XBox live, it's not worth the effort.
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2003, 12:59:00 PM »

LOL.......tutorial for making an xbox bios...that's rich.....

I wonder if there is actually a tutorial for making any kind of bios......


hmmm......if you are interested in the bios stuff, see if you can get cromwell to boot menuetOS....that would be sweeeet


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