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[Rygrass]

Sorry for double post i can't edit the other for some reason.

I managed to get it going through Cd install. its seems quite cool one thing tho is the applications still got overscan ( I got the desktop to fit nicely tho ) once i get this fixed everything should be go

[luther349]

its cool your working on dsl again but. dsl linux itsself is kinda dated i have been working on a lucid puppy 5.0 but i have ran into a wall with it using gcc4 and the 2.4 kernel not able to compile with it. puppy can run 2.4 teen pup uses it so i know it can be done.

i could easily port that being its devx file probably has 2.4 but its based on a very old version not even the 4x puppy series. and im trying to port 5x that uses the ubuntu repos as well as puppy's own.

[NaiGuy]

It would def def be nice to see puppy ported to xbox. we need more up to date distros on xbox. only one is GentooX i think and sadly thats really too balky for me with xbox distros need to be very lightweight and even then they might be slow. so far DSL is the fastest ive seen but its old and from what ive seen of it it does have a few issues.

[luther349]

i found the older debs hopefully i can install them on puppy. i haven't gotten to it yet however. yes the xbox does need a newer distro and i figure puppy would be the best. but its not easy to make a xbox distro theirs little info on how to actually do it. no guids at all on how to start from scratch no how to make the installer and so on.

and its also hard for me to test it on a real xbox being my xbox hardrive only works when it whats to. i did pull the key off it so i can replace it but i just haven't had the money.

[ldotsfan]

Are you aware of this?

I will summarize the key differences the way I see it:
1. Bootloader. Cromwell/Xromwell vs Grub/LILO
2. Kernel. With xbox patches.
3. X Windows and driver.
4. Limited memory.
5. File system: FATX and partitioning scheme.

[Zebedee Rocks]

How would one go about patching this kernel with one already installed natively?  

Thanks

[luther349]

alisa needs to be patched for sound to work. awesome to see some work to even if its only xdsl. 2.4 is are limit if you whant fatx support. as well as dated versions of alisa and xorg. why i had to drop work on puppy its fs was to new for 2.4 and would not boot under it.

[ldotsfan]

Can I get some sense of whether there are any active users of this stuff? Sourceforge reported an average of less than 10 downloads of x-dsl-0.71.2.zip each month since Jan 2011.

[law56ker]

I've seen this release on other xbox resource websites, so people could be downloading it from multiple places. I am interested in your project, and hope to see you continue, even if the audience for it, isn't enormous. keep it up please.

[ldotsfan]

Only run088 reported back on the FATX changes.

x-dsl and xbox linux sites are both down - so this explains the dispersed information. It doesn't help that the pinned threads haven't been maintained for a long time.

I will have a go at this again when I find the time and users report back on their experience.

[Cio]

I'm glad to see some activity here (even if minimal) but I doubt I can be of much help.

Worse, even, all I have ATM are questions. The most important one being: Is it possible to install X-DSL without fatx partitions (no C/E/F/X/Y/Z drives)?

I realize I would have to figure out how to partition & format a harddrive from a live CD (Windows 7 on desktop) but before I dive into a few nights of Google searches to do that, could X-DSL even handle a dedicated drive? And is simply placing linuxboot.cfg in the root of my first partition enough to load it?

If it matters, my dvd drive still works, booting directly from cromwell 2.4, usb keybord/mouse can be attached. I've been looking for a simple install disk for X-DSL for a while, but they all seem to require booting via a XBE. Also, I recall only loopback installs being available via E or F drives.

[ldotsfan]

x-dsl's native install script and the  boot process details should get you started.

Since you have cromwell flashed, things should be simpler. I was trying to rewrite the install script at one stage to make it friendly with the xbpartitioner style partition table but didn't get it working and gave up trying.

Good luck.

[Cio]

Thanks, but I guess Cromwell 2.40 cannot boot from non-fatx partitions other then CD-ROM and F. I'll need a properly updated Cromwell. Perhaps the GentooX Loader will help, or try and dig up 2.40-rc2.

Also, I'm too sleepy to turn the x-dsl-0.71.2.zip into a bootable dvd. After 2 coasters I used Xdsl0.7beta0.05.iso to test the partitioning/cromwell compatiblity. Would you like specific feedback on the installation process of 0.71.2 aswell, or is functional testing enough?

[Cio]

I found that the native install script fails completely unless I pre-partition and format manually. Not at all a problem related to Cromwell. The info from the pages you linked was useful, but faulty. This is what worked for me.

*starting with a clean HD booting from X-DSL live CD "Xdsl0.7beta0.05.iso" using the partitioning page as source*
fidsk
N -> P -> 1 -> +256m -> T -> 82  (for swap, same as Partitioning page you linked)
N -> P -> 2 -> +2000m -> T -> 83 -> A -> 2 (for the native install. notice type/system setting!)
W for commit

mkswap /dev/hda1 (this seems to work)

mkfs claims to run on hda2, but has no effect. creating a 3rd partition shows mkfs will error on newly created partitions without a reboot (Can you reload partition tables manually? Probably, but rebooting was faster for me). The native install script doesn't see this and writes into hda2, but this data disappears.

After a reboot I continued:
mkfs - t ext3 /dev/hda2
fsck -f -y /dev/hda2

Now hda2 is properly formatted and I could start a native install from the DSL menu. Data is actually written to hda2 now. The script does not create a linuxboot.cfg file. I did not test to reboot without manually adding one, assuming it is required for Cromwell to boot from any location.

Thanks for the help so far ldotsfan! I'll try and get a bootable cd from your latest .zip then let you know if anything weird happens.

[ldotsfan]

Any kind of feedback is good. The x-dsl archive also has the iso remastering details.