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[osmorphyus]

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this is really getting f'in old.  run if you have any tips, id appreciate 'em.

this is for the damn birds.

[run088]

Did you try without the 1.6 screen fix? I thought I had gotten at one time or another every possible error while doing this upgrade but I never have had a bash error. I have had a few random errors that I came across doing the upgrade and they happen for no reason I could figure out but when that happens I just go with a fresh install and don't spend much time on it because I know when it is right it will go threw flawless. A fresh install and upgrade takes less than an hour at a time so I just start from scratch. I will run down the upgrade again.

Install dsl on a loopback or native install. enable apt-get and gnu utils in the menu. Open a file manager under root. go to /etc/apt/sources.list comment all the lines out by starting each line with a "#" sign. Paste the repositories I listed in the earlier post here. Then open a terminal under root then apt-get update. Then apt-get -f upgrade. Then apt-get -f dist-upgrade. It may ask you to run apt-get with no packages if it does use the command it list on the screen. Then apt-get -f upgrade again. You may need to use these 3 commands several times before it goes threw perfect. Sometimes it only takes 2 commands sometimes it takes all 3. Once you finally get threw with no errors change the repo's and add etch repos. If when you are upgrading threw sarge you get snagged up upgrading pcmcia or core utils. Follow instructions on earlier post to get around this. Once you get threw with sarge and have changed repos to etch "you have to comment out the sarge repos before you switch to etch" apt-get update again. Then apt-get install perl once that goes threw then apt-get install python then apt-get install python2.5. After I have done this I switch back to the sarge repos "commenting out etch repos" apt-get update again. Then apt-get install synaptic. Once synaptic is installed I build everything else from its gui interface. At this point you should have the same interface you use with modern pc based ubuntu and should be good to go from there.

You pick up anything you missed from this?

[osmorphyus]

hells bells...

so i didnt realize to add the gnu utils before, so i did that.

i turned off the 1.6 overscan fix and rebooted.

changed repos to sarge.

ran apt-get update,

ran apt-get -f distupgrade,

it took much longer to do this, this time.  it asked me to setup the gnome/kde/text whatever dialogs, i chose basic text/terminal mode, it then went and asked me if i wanted to update various packages to what came with the new distribution, i default selected no.  i continued this until the end.

the end now as usual gives me a damn error i have seeeen befooore...

E:  sub process usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

then im back to a root prompt...

i thought i had it, too, when i added the gnu utils and it went thru so much more for the upgrade process...

[osmorphyus]

the following packages have unmet dependencies:

ALL LIBS

libice6 but it is not installed,  etc thru libxtst6 but it is not installed,

unmet dependencies, try using -f

trying:
apt-get -f upgrade

seems to be working...  maybe this is what you meant by i may have to try a mix of commands a few times..  its asking questions now, im answering no,  ill update when this finishes...


edit:  now i get error during pppconfig....  which seeeems to be my last update....

sub process returned error code 1 during pppconfig, at least its not bash this time.

[osmorphyus]

this is going nowhere...

no matter the combination of apt-get -f dist-upgrade, apt get upgrade, updae, -f update, install pppconfig, etc it comes back with the same damn error oveeer and ovvver again...

redundant, it is.

i dont even have wifi built into the box, so can i just avoid adding this last part and start pn the etch part?

[run088]

QUOTE(osmorphyus @ Jan 5 2010, 11:32 PM)

this is going nowhere...

no matter the combination of apt-get -f dist-upgrade, apt get upgrade, updae, -f update, install pppconfig, etc it comes back with the same damn error oveeer and ovvver again...

redundant, it is.

i dont even have wifi built into the box, so can i just avoid adding this last part and start pn the etch part?

You try to apt-get with no packages so it tries to fix dependencies? If that one package is what is holding you back and you can't fix with apt-get command for no packages to fix dependencies then trying etch should not hurt I would think. Worst it can do is crash it and you get to start from scratch again.

[osmorphyus]

alright, check it out, i made progress last night.

i wound up just skipping worrying about pppconfig, since afterall, i dont use a PPP based internet connection, i figured it could rot away never being properly updated.  the system didnt mind, either.

i switched to the etch repo, added python, java-package & perl, then switched back to sarge to acquire synaptic.  the sarge synaptic is sooo much nicer than the xdsl synaptic!  reminded me of working on ubuntu.

i tried adding knoqueror, but i had dependency issues, so i installed kde.  took a long time, but kde installed and it also installed konqueror.  it ate up most of my 2Gb loopback, which turned me off.


then i decided to check out konqueror.  no icon on the desktop, so i term'd it out.  it took a minute to load up, but eventually i was presented with a very attractive, clean web browser, which also doubled as a file system browser from what i could tell.  it was nice enough, but after installing the entire kde package, i really wanted to see the kde desktop/window manager.  i never figured out how to get into that.

from there i decided hell with it, lets try some other window managers, so i added enlightenment.  enlightenment was terrible on a 1.6 system.  all i had was a teal colored background to look at, and a nice looking menu when i clicked around the desktop.  i had no visible options for running any applications, so i shut down for the night and have since waking up, did a fresh install of dsl.

aside from its very outdated appearence, i like dsl a lot.  i just wish there was a way to update the window/desktop management.  i can run the system just fine, bnut if im going to install kde just to run konqueror, that seems kinda frivolous.  konqueror was very attractive, but without having a window manager or desktop enviornment to blend in with it, i felt a little gypped.

any tips on updating the user enviornment (window/desktop mgmt)?  also, do you know if there is a way to add a splash screen during the dsl boot process?  i was curious about that.  even just a standard bitmap image would be cool, i dont need an animated loading bar or anything like that.  tho if thats possible, id be willing to put in the work.

[run088]

don't know about the splash screen but konquer will install without the full kde it only requires the base of kde if I am not mistaken it should do that auto. I also remember installing a whole kde interface before it was nice but not my cup of tea. I don't remember exactly how I did it but I know I did I remember because the menu ran along the bottom of the screen. If you install nautilus you can get a gnome desktop when you launch nautilus I could not figure out how to get it to launch without launching nautilus to get to it. I use the desktop menu on dsl to make icons to launch from and stick with the standard dsl desktop to keep the size down and use less resources leaving more gogo juice for the apps I run. I would suggest you do the same it will run better. I also increase swap size to 1gig. I use mine basically as a torrent-nzb grabber. It downloads as quick as my pc and I get better performance out of my pc because of it. I set the firefox download directory on all my pc's to dump everything in a share on the xbox and I keep vuze and sabnzbd running scanning that directory. The only pain in the ass about the setup is sometimes it screws with the permissions and I have to go into the xbox to change them so I can access them from outside the machine.

Anyhow I am glad you got it worked out I was starting to get worried about you figuring it out. It took me months of trying to figure it all out before I licked it. I am glad to see someone else benefited from the time I spent on learning our system. Maybe know you can help me crush us out a new build for the scene since you are getting up to speed. We really need the 32-64k patched in and launching from hda58 would come in handy to.

[osmorphyus]

right on, man.  check it out now, i wound up getting synaptic installed without relying on the etch repos once.  i bypassed the whole grabbing java, perl & python apps, and just ran thru with apt-get update, dist update -f, etc.  as well, this install wound up upgrading without one hitch for me.

i did have issues, but i juggled the upgrade/update/etc commands, and it completed one hundred percent with no flaws.  no bash errors, no pppconfig errors, nada.  i also went ahead and selected "yes" to install the newer versions of the softwares when prompted as opposed to saying no, i also allowed the system to update its user levels when it asked me.

i agree that the use of eye-candy based environments (kde) on such a slim system will render most applications useless.  i think at least having a selection of color themes available to get rid of all the GRAY would help alot, tho.  i dont even need flashy round corners or anything, just a way to theme it even like win98 would be nice.  i have been looking for themes for JWM and havent found much out there.  i decided that im going to try to install one of the themes i found and tweak its properties to see if i could clean one up a bit.

the JWM is great, the biggest bonus it has in my opinion is the resizablity of windows, which is imperitive to 1.6 based users.  being able to click and manipulate the window size as it overscanned off screen helped me out before i figured out how to edit and enable the 1.6 screen fix.  i think including an updated 1.6 geometry value in the system at download/burn would help a lot of users.  if the screen size is defaulted a slight bit smaller for 1.6 users, it will make navigating in an overscaned area much muuuch easier on the newbs.  i think the overscan at first boot is a big enough turn off for a lot of newbs to say screw it and just walk away bitching that they cant run windows.  because lets face it, most newbs are windows fans who have neevr used linux a day in their lives.  thats how it was for me, only im a big enough hack to put in the work and learn it.  i wound up being taken with DSL, and these days have abandoned windows.

i think having an easier method to mount hard drive partitions and USB devices will also welcome newbs.  one problem i had this xmas was a buddy of mine got a clip mp3 player, and it wasnt detected by karmic koala.  ubu 9.0c does detect the device however.  it was very frustrating.  i wound up plugging the usb into the DSL and it was connected with no problems, only i was unable to browse to it as i couldnt determine its mount point.  as much as i dont like the fluxbox WM, i do like how it has the "mount device" applet on the desktop.  bringing that into the JWM would be great.  point and click mounting is nice for newbs who dont want to tackle fstab just yet.

i still have yet to get torrenting downloading into my F: partition, but i havent given up on it.  i think with my newer knowledge of linux overall itll be easier for me to figure out.  i also want to be able to compile ISO's from downloads thru the DSL.  this will make downloading certain applications used on the xbox muuuch easier than downloading them to a pc, compiling them, and then ftp'ing them over to the xbox.



since there is no real work going on with DSL, and i have experience with linux in general terms of its working system, i think it would be great to see a new release, and i would have no problems contributing work to make it happen.  its basically dead in the water in terms of "official" development out there, and i have been waiting actually to hear from someone else who uses DSL enough to want an update.

for my swap i just stick with 768 at the moment, with of course the puny 2Gb loopback system.  i dont fully understand why it is currently limited to 2Gb for LB FS.  i tried using 4000 in terms of FS size at installation once and it left me with like a 200Mb FS.