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[osmorphyus]

wine is limited in what it can do on the xbox.  currently, the wine application for dsl does not operate with a gui, so you will have to either execute your application thru terminal typing wine (app name here), or thru emelfm, clicking it and selecting wine as the option to start it with.

before you start thinking that wine will solve all of your windows app problems on any version of linux however, you should be aware that not all apps are supported in wine.

more than anything for me, wine has been nothing but a source of stress and frustration.  i dont use it for anything.  take that back - i use it for winrar on my ubuntu box because i cant figure out how to compile broke down rars (iso related, usually) with the linux unrar app.

most people here would tell you to crate a new forum thread, by the way, as hijacking one topic to get answers about another question is usually looked down upon.  if i could, id just chop your post and create a new thread out of it.  just be noted that some mods get picky about that, but for the most part, the linux spot is dead as far as mods go.

answer this:  what do you need wine to do for you on your xbox?  there may already be linux options available.

[Pulsemasta]

QUOTE(osmorphyus @ Jan 12 2010, 10:11 PM)

pulse, how does HD look in DSL on the box?

plus, youre using a 1.6 system, correct?

quite curious am i.  /yoda speak

HD looks great. I thought it would be like the SNES games and what not that are in "HD" but are really not very high definition... but its really crisp! I'm happy with it! I am using a Ver 1.1 box. The Halo Green one.

Fleck, you can get linux distros here.

http://www.xbox-linu...g/wiki/Download

I don't know what sites you went to that were all "dead"? Linux and XBMC are the only two things that people really still keep up.

[run088]

Use virtualbox instead of wine and you get full blown windows xp functionality. Make your virtual machine on a pc of xp  for virtualbox "much quicker than building on xbox it would take forever" install dkms you can find a deb file for it here


http://linux.dell.com/dkms/



to install it

dpkg -i packagename.deb


and go here grab sarge repo and add it to your sources.list file


http://www.virtualbo...Linux_Downloads

To get it to work a kernel rebuild is required. This is because of the dkms package. Since I can't find a 2.4 kernel deb package and have had trouble making one I grab a 2.6.18 from here make sure to grab the headers to

http://www.aelius.com/njh/xbox-linux/

Same deal to install these deb files

dkpg -i packagename.deb

Then you must alter the cfg file to reflect the 2.6.18 kernel. Info on how to do this is found here right before there is a sub heading that says XBOX IS SOFTMODED ON F:


http://www.xbox-linu...nel-2.6-Upgrade

however mine looks like this keep in mind I also have an upgraded ide cable if you don't have one don't use "ide0=ata66" because if you do the xbox might lockup and not boot

title XDSL
kernel boot /linux24
append root=/dev/hda2 init+/etc/init kbd-reset xbox=hdd
xboxfb y


title 2.6.18ata66
kernel boot /vmlinuz-2.6.18-xbox
append root=/dev/hda2 initrd=initrd kbd-reset xbox=hdd ide0=ata66
xboxfb y


By doing this you will get a grub like menu at boot and you can choose what kernel you want to boot. Also you will not have keyboard or mouse control until you add all the modules to the /etc/modules file. All you have to do is copy all the modules from the "modules" file found on the same site the 2.6.18 kernel comes from and add those modules to your file. Each kernel will ignore the modules it does not need. You may see errors on boot but they will cost you no performance lose.

[Pulsemasta]

QUOTE(run088 @ Jan 13 2010, 07:40 AM)

Use virtualbox instead of wine and you get full blown windows xp functionality. Make your virtual machine on a pc of xp  for virtualbox "much quicker than building on xbox it would take forever" install dkms you can find a deb file for it here
http://linux.dell.com/dkms/
to install it

dpkg -i packagename.deb
and go here grab sarge repo and add it to your sources.list file
http://www.virtualbo...Linux_Downloads

To get it to work a kernel rebuild is required. This is because of the dkms package. Since I can't find a 2.4 kernel deb package and have had trouble making one I grab a 2.6.18 from here make sure to grab the headers to

http://www.aelius.com/njh/xbox-linux/

Same deal to install these deb files

dkpg -i packagename.deb

Then you must alter the cfg file to reflect the 2.6.18 kernel. Info on how to do this is found here right before there is a sub heading that says XBOX IS SOFTMODED ON F:
http://www.xbox-linu...nel-2.6-Upgrade

however mine looks like this keep in mind I also have an upgraded ide cable if you don't have one don't use "ide0=ata66" because if you do the xbox might lockup and not boot

title XDSL
kernel boot /linux24
append root=/dev/hda2 init+/etc/init kbd-reset xbox=hdd
xboxfb y
title 2.6.18ata66
kernel boot /vmlinuz-2.6.18-xbox
append root=/dev/hda2 initrd=initrd kbd-reset xbox=hdd ide0=ata66
xboxfb y
By doing this you will get a grub like menu at boot and you can choose what kernel you want to boot. Also you will not have keyboard or mouse control until you add all the modules to the /etc/modules file. All you have to do is copy all the modules from the "modules" file found on the same site the 2.6.18 kernel comes from and add those modules to your file. Each kernel will ignore the modules it does not need. You may see errors on boot but they will cost you no performance lose.

So does this put Windows on the Xbox or let you control your windows PC from your Xbox?  

[run088]

Virtualbox runs a full blown build of xp on the xbox as a virtual machine. You can follow my directions to get it going but I can only get this going on a native install. You would have to lose all your xbox partitions or all of your f drive to do it. This is because I can't get the 2.6 kernel to boot from a loopback install it should boot but I have not found out how to get the cfg file correct to do it.

vnc viewer is multi platform software that lets you view a pc from an external location.

vnc server allows your pc to be controlled remotely it is also multi platform.

I believe the vnc programs can be installed from your my dsl repo. The standard dsl install comes equipped with both vnc programs but I don't think they work however they can be install from your repository and work ok.

[Pulsemasta]

QUOTE(run088 @ Jan 13 2010, 05:51 PM)

Virtualbox runs a full blown build of xp on the xbox as a virtual machine. You can follow my directions to get it going but I can only get this going on a native install. You would have to lose all your xbox partitions or all of your f drive to do it. This is because I can't get the 2.6 kernel to boot from a loopback install it should boot but I have not found out how to get the cfg file correct to do it.

vnc viewer is multi platform software that lets you view a pc from an external location.

vnc server allows your pc to be controlled remotely it is also multi platform.

I believe the vnc programs can be installed from your my dsl repo. The standard dsl install comes equipped with both vnc programs but I don't think they work however they can be install from your repository and work ok.

So when you are running XP as a "virtual machine" what exactly does that limit you too? Like could I run Windows games and emulators and such or would it all be too slow?

[run088]

It all depends there is not to much overhead left to play with. I did it to run relax file sharing and a magic jack phone system both perform just fine. It surfs the internet pretty fast to. Other than that I have not tried to do much else with it there is no reason to for me since I can do everything else with linux.

There is no limitation on what you can do with a virtual machine. The only limitation will be because of system requirements for various programs. But this is the case with any o/s this problem is not limited to the xbox.

However just like a pc when running a virtual machine you have to be careful in what you do because it will circumvent any firewall or security system leaving your whole network at risk. This however comes in handy if you are using a virtual machine on a network in which ports and what not are blocked. You might be able to bypass that kind of security with a virtual machine.

[Pulsemasta]

QUOTE(run088 @ Jan 14 2010, 01:41 AM)

It all depends there is not to much overhead left to play with. I did it to run relax file sharing and a magic jack phone system both perform just fine. It surfs the internet pretty fast to. Other than that I have not tried to do much else with it there is no reason to for me since I can do everything else with linux.

There is no limitation on what you can do with a virtual machine. The only limitation will be because of system requirements for various programs. But this is the case with any o/s this problem is not limited to the xbox.

However just like a pc when running a virtual machine you have to be careful in what you do because it will circumvent any firewall or security system leaving your whole network at risk. This however comes in handy if you are using a virtual machine on a network in which ports and what not are blocked. You might be able to bypass that kind of security with a virtual machine.

I should try this at my school. They probably have blazing fast internet, but they block P2p transfers so I have never gotten to try it out.

[run088]

pulsemasta said

"I should try this at my school. They probably have blazing fast internet, but they block P2p transfers so I have never gotten to try it out."


I would not recommend you try to use it at your school. I was referring to trouble shooting issues if you had problems with your network.

[Pulsemasta]

QUOTE(run088 @ Jan 14 2010, 09:27 AM)

pulsemasta said

"I should try this at my school. They probably have blazing fast internet, but they block P2p transfers so I have never gotten to try it out."
I would not recommend you try to use it at your school. I was referring to trouble shooting issues if you had problems with your network.

oh, gotchya