Topic: It Seems We Have A Slight Problem (Read 493 times)

2 Bunny · « **on:** November 16, 2009, 02:32:00 PM »

Hello once again everyone here at the xBox Scene "Skinnex" community forums. This time, we have a new and very fascinating problem for the scene to solve. First, however, let me supply you with some background...

Once, I had the xBox "modded" with a softmod, and upgraded hard drive on a Krazy "ndure" version 1 (not 1.1, just 1(.0)), and I thought I might upgrade to 1.1 because of the useful benefits that may be associated with that new version. I went ahead and downloaded the gamesave file, even though I did not have the game anymore. I ran it from the file itself, and first tried hitting the "upgrade from 1.0" button, which failed with some kind of retarded reason. "Thats okay", I said, and just tried to install "anew", because I knew I could always restore from backups, or my old hard drive. It failed, pretty much and presented me with an error thirteen whenever I tried to boot, and error fourteen when I tried to boot with a burned dashboard CD. I slapped the old hard drive back in, restored (but not my backed up games on partition "F", which obviously isn't there on an original hard drive), and used "chimps", that wonderful amazing tool, and recovered back on to the new hard drive. While doing this, I learned an interesting lesson: Using "chimps" will always format your hard drive completely, and so you cannot just copy over JUST partition C, without partition E. Although if you try, you will see the first frame or so of the MS dash, interestingly enough. Anyway, after I formatted and copied again, I was "back in business" and was ready to copy my games back to the hard drive. I copied one, it worked. But now, when I go to launch it, it just sends me right back to the MS Dash. I used DVD2XBOX, and the copy process yielded no errors, so I don't think that is it. Another thing that coincidentally happened right around the time that this stopped working (around the time of the recovery), the Dualboot eject button thing does not work any longer. I made sure the setting was activated before I upgraded the hdd. Now, if I boot the machine, then open the drive, I am presented with error twenty one. I don't know if that has anything to do with anything, but I thought I'd throw that one in there. In my current situation, I would be set to use a recovery disc to completely PROPERLY reinstall the 1.1 or 1 softmod, but my DVD burner is out of comission, which means I'm left with the laptop that only burns CDs, so a recovery disc would indeed need to be a recovery CD. I believe that "frosty" disc from "the usual place" is indeed too large at over a gigabyte. Or, a recovery app might work, or some kind of "virtual cd" or "compressed CD". I don't know. I don't really care about upgrading so much as I do running games from the hard drive, because it speeds up loading times Tons, and If I move my box from place to place, I need not worry about taking discs with me.

Thanks for reading my long "speech" there. Hopefully someone can provide some advice for at least one of my numerous questions, the primary of which would be running games from the hard drive, but you can talk about anything else too though.

Good luck!

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2 Bunny · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2009, 08:30:00 PM »

So, nobody has figured out any solutions to this other than a reinstallation?

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2 Bunny · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2009, 06:26:00 PM »

QUOTE(obcd @ Nov 23 2009, 03:29 AM)

I took my time to completely read your first article. I can't find a question in it?
You are describing what you did, and between the lines I can read that your game backups from the harddisk aren't working anymore. Your dual boot isn't working anymore either.

You don't provide much information to work with.
You are expecting the Community to tell you to delete file x and add file y so that everything works fine again.

I have the impression things already went wrong when you ran the gamesave on the backup of your game. It's not designed to work that way. It's very well possible that your shadowc is active and that it will perform some actions on your shadow instead of your real C.

If you don't follow a tutorial to the letter, you need excellent understanding about how things work, or they won't work at all.

Are you able to get your harddisk in the same modded state as your original modded harddisk? (Using chimp or so?)

regards.

Yes indeed. Everything is as it was before with those two exceptions (the games off the hard drive and the dualboot).

Thank you for taking interest in my question that seems to have lay "dormant" for so long.

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2 Bunny · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2009, 04:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(obcd @ Nov 24 2009, 03:58 AM)

Do you have a ftp connection between your pc and your xbox so that you can examine and alter the xbox harddisk contents?
What dashboard are you using on your xbox for the moment?

Yes, I think all versions of the xBox Media Center include an FTP Server. The contents (of the hard drive) are the same as the old hard drive. I think the old hard drive was able to dualboot, and the first time I had upgraded the hard drive it was able to dualboot, but now it can't for some reason. REALLY weird. Maybe that failed additional attempt had overwritten part of the old softmod and started a new one where dualboot wasn't enabled. But that's just a theory...

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kingroach · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2009, 06:03:00 PM »

error 21 on dual boot means that the dual boot dashboard file is missing. As for games, chimp's cloning tool might not properly clones the E drive or something. Best way to sove all these problems would be just reformat the whole hard drive and xboxhdm and recreate the hard drive.

Or you can launch a small dashboard like evox/ unleashx. While its launched format the C/E/F etc drive and copy your softmod files to xbox without rebooting. Its little riskly since if you reboot the xbox before copying everything it will give you error. (even though the dash formatted the drives, it will run because its running from RAM).

2 Bunny · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2009, 01:02:00 PM »

QUOTE(kingroach @ Nov 24 2009, 08:03 PM)

Or you can launch a small dashboard like evox/ unleashx. While its launched format the C/E/F etc drive and copy your softmod files to xbox without rebooting. Its little riskly since if you reboot the xbox before copying everything it will give you error. (even though the dash formatted the drives, it will run because its running from RAM).

So, let's say I used that "Kingroach" aplication of yours that you would normally use in conjunction with xBoxHDM. It creates two folders for the drives, so I would basically just overwrite everything with those and it would work like I had used the xBoxHDM installer script?

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xman954 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 26, 2009, 06:14:00 PM »

QUOTE

So, let's say I used that "Kingroach" aplication of yours that you would normally use in conjunction with xBoxHDM. It creates two folders for the drives, so I would basically just overwrite everything with those and it would work like I had used the xBoxHDM installer script?

YES but you have to do it from a gamesave using FTP (so the shadowC will de disabled)

or use the E:\shadowC_off.bin if it's at Krazy "ndure" version 1.0 (then reboot)

in any case look at the C:\ it will have extra folders that the normal MS dash does not

also when your done save a good copy of C:\ and E:\ so you can allways use it (use generic fonts with s1.xtf and s2.xtf)

2 Bunny · « **Reply #7 on:** November 27, 2009, 06:14:00 AM »

QUOTE(xman954 @ Nov 26 2009, 08:14 PM)

YES but you have to do it from a gamesave using FTP (so the shadowC will de disabled)

or use the E:\shadowC_off.bin if it's at Krazy "ndure" version 1.0 (then reboot)

in any case look at the C:\ it will have extra folders that the normal MS dash does not

also when your done save a good copy of C:\ and E:\ so you can allways use it (use generic fonts with s1.xtf and s2.xtf)

So for that "bin" thing you were talking about, I just find it on my hard drive and run it, or does it need to be opened with something?

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xman954 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 27, 2009, 12:17:00 PM »

you just copy any file to E:\

and rename it...

NKPatcher just look's for a file name and if it's there it will not start up the shadowC

NDURE 1.0 and 3.0 E:\shadowC_off.bin

NDURE 1.1 and 3.1 E:\NKP11\shadowC_off.bin

2 Bunny · « **Reply #9 on:** November 27, 2009, 05:38:00 PM »

QUOTE(xman954 @ Nov 27 2009, 02:17 PM)

you just copy any file to E:\

and rename it...

NKPatcher just look's for a file name and if it's there it will not start up the shadowC

NDURE 1.0 and 3.0 E:\shadowC_off.bin

NDURE 1.1 and 3.1 E:\NKP11\shadowC_off.bin

So basically, to recap, I just use my bootable UnleashX CD that works/starts/does FTP Client and I make sure that I just take any file and throw it on the root of my e drive and rename it to shadowC_off.bin, then I just take the files I got from the "KingRoach" installer thingy, copy the contents of each lettered folder to their corresponding drives on my xBox, reboot and BAM everything is changed over? I guess I always thought when you softmod that something is physically changed on one of the chips in the system, but I guess this is not the case.

Anyway, I'll go through and backup what I want to keep, then use that KingRoach installer again, then do the "shadow C" thing, and see what happens.

So exciting.

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2 Bunny · « **Reply #10 on:** November 28, 2009, 09:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(obcd @ Nov 28 2009, 04:18 AM)

This depends upon what softmod you have on your xbox.

Stop guessing and thinking. A softmod just alters files on the harddisk.

Don't forget to reboot after you added the shadowC_off.bin to your E or E:\NKP11
The shadowc is only turned off upon the next reboot.

regards.

All right, well I have a Krazy version 1 (point nothing), so if what xman said is correct, then I must just have to put "shadowC_off.bin" to the root of drive E, then reboot the system with my UnleashX bootable dashboard CD in the DVD drive, and then copy the files. I'll just back up here real quick, and give that a try, and see what happens.

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obcd · « **Reply #11 on:** November 29, 2009, 02:56:00 AM »

Don't worry, xman knows what he is talking about.

regards.

2 Bunny · « **Reply #12 on:** November 29, 2009, 11:33:00 AM »

QUOTE(obcd @ Nov 29 2009, 04:56 AM)

Don't worry, xman knows what he is talking about.

regards.

All right, so here's how this one went down...

So, I made the ShadowC off File thing, put it on the E drive, rebooted with an UnleashX dashboard boot cd in the drive, and used FTP to copy everything over from there. The only part of this that did not go smoothly was copying over the really large "shadowC.img" or whatever it is called file. It ususally copied over most of it, then it would tell me it failed. So, I burned it to a cd, and tried to copy it over manually, but the CD only made the machine freeze, and I forgot that when you eject it, it takes you back to the dashboard...
LUCKILY, since the rest of drive C copied okay, there was some weird backup other variety of dashboard FTP Enabled (thank goodness), where I was able to start the FTP session again (using FileZilla this whole time to avoid glitches with the Windows FTP client, since the other dashboards are defaulted to a different setting other than my dashboard to only enable one connection at a time instead of five), copied the rest of the files over, and left my apps and xBox Media Center, and linux and stuff like that. I did the xbe shortcut in the E/dash directory in place of the evolution X that was in there. So, now, I was basically at where I was before, booting to the xBox Media Center. The problem with that was, the fan setting for this exploit which was much different than my old one, after the green ring/microsoft logo, then you see an orange ring and it automatically switches it into "high gear" right before the (xBox Media Center) dashboard launches. That delay was never there with the old one. So anyway, I have had to adjust the fan speed manually in the xBox Media Center. So you hear (when you start it up): hummmmmmmmm, VRRROOOMMMM, hummmmmmmmm. The instant you launch any other application, it throws it back into noisy mode. Of course, I figured, well, you just go into the exploit's "home dashboard" and go to the WAFFLE ZONE and just adjust all the annoying settings, so that you don't have a little orange ring and VRROOOOOMMMM when you start the machine. But to my horror/shock, this exploit conained no WAFFLE ZONE TOOLS. GASP!

I figured, "oh well, I'll just go under this dashboard's settings menu and manually turn the fan speed down". I tried that, and saved my settings, but to no avail, it was still noisy. Now, on a side note, I remember that my old exploit "krazy ndure 1.0" had an option in its nearly identical UnleashX "home dashboard" to change the "bios loader" or something to that effect. I remember there were two options, and when you pressed the other one and booted the system, you could achieve similar results to what I am experiencing now, so you'd turn it on, and the microsoft logo would show up, but before it loaded the xBox Media Center, a red ring of light would briefly appear, before it shut off in compliance with my dashboard setting to have the ring of light off. No noisy fan, but maybe if I had that option of "bios loader" or whatever it was, I could skip this part altogether. BACK to present time... I have discovered that so far, this "upgrade" has not really fixed any of my problems. I still an unable to run games from the hard drive even after re copying them. It goes to a black screen for a second like it is trying to launch it, but then it just brings you back to the xBox Media Center and does the exact same thing it did before, in the little picture on the bottom of the screen where you can click "open tray" or "close tray" (since no disc is in the DVD drive), you are now presented with the option "Play DVD" even though nothing is in the drive, and nothing happens if you press the button. Of course, this disappears as soon as you restard the unit though. I have not yet tried to run anything on a high definition television set, so I cannot tell you how/if that works. The last problem I always encountered before was with internet television, specifically MegaVideo. Yesterday, I tested it out with an episode of Early Edition, and was amazed to find myself having made it further through the episode than ever before (for those of you just coming in, before the video would freeze, and after fifteen or so seconds, return you to the menu - and yes, I did press the white button, and "dvd player" instead of "mplayer" like is so often suggested). Eighteen or nineteen minutes, to be exact, and it hadn't even stopped as a result of that glitch, merely as a result of me not using the analog stick correctly to adjust the volume. It tried to fast forward, and then it crapped up, so I had to manually stop it. Unfortuanately, even though the xBox Media Center supports "resume from", this doesn't work with flash video in the xBox Media Center for some reason. However, I went to use it again today, and discovered the same problem I always had, the video cutting out after just a few minutes. So, those are the main problems I have tried, and failed to cure through this whole ordeal: Games running from the hard drive, linux in HD (maybe, maybe not, have not tried yet), and internet television freezing randomly.
It may be worthwhile to note, while you were talking about "shadowC" and that it is not enabled in the first place if you launch a dashboard from a gamesave, that that might have been how I failed back on my first attempt at upgrading the Krazy ndure because I was launching what was meant to have been run from a gamesave right off of the xBox Media Center from the file explorer. Do you think that had I did the "shadowC" thing then, that it might have worked right?

Sorry for that long "speech", but this is a very confusing problem that is hard to "condense" into few words. Thanks for all your help and looking into this everyone!

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2 Bunny · « **Reply #13 on:** November 30, 2009, 01:52:00 PM »