Topic: Softmodding Without Memory Cards (Read 85 times)

cmiz · « **on:** February 01, 2005, 03:56:00 PM »

yes it's possible....it's a lot safer to do with a gamesave exploit, but if you wanted to hotswap the drive and then install a softmod, that would work. look into hotswapping and uxe complete

DaddyJ · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2005, 08:03:00 PM »

Hotswapping is perfectly safe, IF done properly, there are a few issues you should address. Look in my Sig for some help with Hotswapping if you need it.

XBoxLive · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2005, 10:02:00 PM »

Case proven. DaddyJ once again provided useless info.

jonathan2007 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2005, 10:30:00 PM »

QUOTE(DaddyJ @ Feb 1 2005, 09:09 PM)

Hotswapping is perfectly safe, IF done properly, there are a few issues you should address. Look in my Sig for some help with Hotswapping if you need it.

Keo-Keo · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2005, 10:39:00 PM »

QUOTE(luther349 @ Feb 2 2005, 04:53 AM)

daddyj hotswaping is not perfectly safe. not to be mean but you ovalsy do not knoe abought computer hardware. ide is not a hotswap device like usb and the suddon shock to the system can relly mess things up. it doesent matter how you do it its still not safe. please for your own well being get a computer hardware book and read why ide is not safe to hotswap and the damage it may couse your system. for one you can blow the ide chain right out of your system and you whont be putting anything on that cable anymore couse it will be dead. and worse case being you may blow out your entire motherbord.

cmiz · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2005, 11:05:00 PM »

a) is hotswapping safe? well it's certainly not as safe as a gamesave exploit...but i've had a lot of people tell me they've done it and have not broken their drives. i've done it once too and it worked out alright. i'd certainly prefer a gamesave any day of the week...but hotswapping is still pretty unlikely to damage anything if you do it right. (i repeat, UNLIKELY if you do it RIGHT....not IMPOSSIBLE by any means). and yes i know quite a bit about hardware, and yes, i agree that ide are not supposed to be hotswapped....but xboxes aren't supposed to be modded either...we just take that risk.

B ) just for the record, daddyj is one of the most knowledgeable people in the softmod forums...keep that in mind when you're telling him to shut up.

c) why does this have to turn into a war? i said that hotswapping was possible but not the safest method (then i mentioned the safer alternative of gamesave exploits)...is there anybody willing to argue that point with me? i've already mentioned that it's not the safest method, if they want to try it anyways let them. then if they run into a problem just don't help them.

i've been trying to answer a lot of questions for the newbs that grace these forums...but i can assure most of you that if you turn this place into a war zone and mouth off to senior members, i'll be much less likely to help.

anjilslaire · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2005, 11:42:00 PM »

lol,
it's amazing someone so knowledgeable about hardware can't spell.

krayzie · « **Reply #7 on:** February 02, 2005, 12:02:00 AM »

Yeah well I wouldn't say hotswapping is 100 % safe and yes the IDE is not designed for plug and play and it could harm your xbox/pc. I always was and still am a fan of gamesave exploits and I still think hotswapping should only have to be done in emergency cases.
But in the history hotswapping seemed to have survive as a real alternative to gamesave exploits. There are actually people modding xboxes on a regular base doing hotswaps (kinda stupid if you ask me).
Conclusion:
Gamesaves will always be superiour to hotswaps
but if done right a hotswap could also fullfill your needs but I really really recomed a simple gamesave exploiit though.

DaddyJ · « **Reply #8 on:** February 02, 2005, 05:41:00 AM »

I NEVER once said that hotswapping is as safe as a gamesave.... NEVER....

I only stated, that if the proper precaustions are taken, then a hotswap is perfectly safe. Some of the major hardware failure that occurs during a hotswap is,

1. Removing the cable with a severe jerk, causing the HD to head crash.

2. Not properly grounding yourself, or the chassis to earth, causing backup volatage, that may damage the hardware.

@luther349, I'm sorry if you are so scared to hotswap, but please, dont sway people away from it, just because of your insecurities.

@Krayzie, I'm one that does hotswap alot of xbox's for the simple fact, that most of the ones I deal with, Thier DVDROM doesnt work, and a gamesave is not an option.

Cio · « **Reply #9 on:** February 02, 2005, 05:49:00 AM »

what a pointless debate.

IF u can use a gamesave exploit, it's prob the best way. IF u can't, then u should hotswap.

Then, IF you're either unlucky, a dumbass, or too lazy to read up or think about what ur doing, u kill ur HD and will have to buy a chip to repair ur box.

Like sure it's "safe". Bout as safe as bungy jumping or whatever. Even when u do everything right, it can still go wrong. (ever heard bout corrupt eeprom dumps from a gamesave exploit?)

just relax ppl.

krayzie · « **Reply #10 on:** February 02, 2005, 05:50:00 AM »

Yeah like I mentioned I think that hotswaps should be kept for emergencies. I hotswap too if there are no gamesave options.

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