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[The_Truth]

ok, i know all of the admin's and everyone i have been asking... is about to smack me...lmao

ok, i have an idea to prevent banning on xbox live...
what if our retail games were patched so that they have a transparent packet reauthoring software...
that decrypts the packet> opens and anazyzes it for "critical" ban data(anything that will get you banned> reauthors the packet with false info(bios, hdd s\n, files on hdd)> and then re encrypts the package....
i could use any ideas or help with this idea...

[The_Truth]

must be gathered specifically
technically not false... you own that old hdd... but you dont have it in.. you just make the xbox say you do...

[DaddyJ]

By patching your breaking the signature.

If you can decrypt the outgoing packets, then your going in a great direction. While this is all been considered. It hasnt been accomplished in full-stream market yet.

[Spaceboy727]

if that is possible,think it would slow up your gameplay online?

[DaddyJ]

It would be realtime bit shifting, I dont think speed would be an issue, more signature factoring then anything else.

[The_Truth]

signature of the packets correct?
or of the actual xbe's... because the xbe isnt a problem...
the software it's self (in theory, and in my design idea) corrects the problem with playing a modded xbox online... run with a mod bios... any check MS performs... it reports fake information.... if they perform a hash of the correct file... it would send a series of digits... if its not real... it would not match their digits... so make a packet capture system that looks for specific information... look for the hash of that xbe... every way they are banning xboxes... the check for a non stock bios... well... how do they determine that... do they hash it too?
if so... have it lie again....
the thing im lookin at is... if they tell your xbox to send them information about itself over live... it will send the info.. NO MATTER WHAT... but if they dont like what it said.. they ban it...(i know that's putting it extremely simple.. )
if you have something inside the xbox network layer... you can determine what info is actually sent virgin.. and what info is sent hacked..

[DaddyJ]

Yeah, we can just just lie to em, this will work.

When are you going to have a working version of this?

I'm interesting in seeing this.

I'm also wondering why all the guru's couldnt figure this out, when it was so easy.
Just lie to them. hmm, great work.

[The_Truth]

lmao... was that sarcasm i sense...
well.. damn.. i love my idea... but i dont know where... or how to begin for that matter... lmao.. my best works were batch files...(and mighty fun pranks might i add!(windows xp shutdown loop)). yeah... if someone one could give me a crash course in what i need to know to write it... tools needed to be used... so on so forth.. ill start when ever.... despite what anyone says...lmao... i know this can be done...

Edit: wow.. i will dedicate my whole winter break if someone could get me started... but guys... if it could work... and i can be taught...(i can script... do basic... possibly more if i had commands and syntax usage...but very simple level), i want to write it*you know.. that wonderful feeling of accomplishment... something for the modders of the world*

[DaddyJ]

Just a hint of sarcasm maybe


You could start by setting up a LAN between your xbox & your pc, setup a packet grabber. Go thru the process of going on live.

With no internet hooked up, it will fail. By grabbing the packets & dycrypting them, you can begin to send returning packets.

When the game no longer fails to log into live, then you know your on the right track with the packets you are returning.

By being able to return the proper packets, you can then begin to under stand what m$ servers are looking for. Thus being able to encrypt the packets correctly to send to there servers.

Once this is achieved. Your prospect will seem alot better.

[The_Truth]

ok.... i got the hardware part...(done)... how i set up xbconnect... i can capture packets... (done)...
now... what i need... how do you decrypt these packets...(ethereal work?).. and how do you send packets...(yeah.. not studied on that yet..lmao)

[The_Truth]

thanx for the reassuring words tomilis...
but i am essentially starting from base 1...
also.. if this does come around... it can be input into a bios.. and there will be no individual patching of games

[Spaceboy727]

or maybe put it in nkpatcher...

[The_Truth]

well.. i think i need to crawl first...lol

Edit: anyone wanna help The_Truth crawl?

[Spaceboy727]

lol yeah good point

[The_Truth]

well... i suppose the first thing to do would be... tackle the encryption...
so guys... how do i start there...

EDIT: dear lord... let me make this easier.. if this can be done... will one of the moderators take this over?