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[Angerwound]

I've already been thinking about such moves CSB.

None seem to workable at the moment, but I will look into them.

[Kthulu]

yep, i think the boot disc idea is hopeless.  here's another reason:

all xbox dashboards (xboxdash.xbe) check for d:/default.xbe as soon as they load.  if it finds a file by that path and name, it will try to launch it.  that is why my xboxdash boot discs have been hanging at the X logo screen and the dvd drive can be heard thrashing about.  the box boots d:/default.xbe (which is hulk's xboxdash.xbe renamed).  it is booting, i'm sure of it.  but once it boots, it sees d:/default.xbe (itself) and tries to launch it.  so it goes into an endless loop.

i know i aim'd you about this theory earlier, angerwound, and then i expressed doubt about it, but i'm sure this is what's happening.  here's what made me waffle back to that theory:  in a modded state and using a homebrew dash that does not autolaunch games, insert a game disc into the dvd drive.  a system notification is sent out.  your homebrew dash detects and starts querying the drive for media info.  when it's done it tells you have a game disc in the drive or a video disc. but it does not launch it.  launch another homebrew dash that configured not to autolaunch D.  it loads itself, not the disc.  the bios isn't launching d:/default.xbe after boot...the currently loaded program is.  now launch the normal MS Dash.  All you'll see is the X logo screen i've been seeing, then you'll see whatever loads from the dvd.

i would suspect that the MS Dashboards check for d:/default.xbe and attempt to launch it before they ever even look for a resource file.

[Angerwound]

Yes, but are fonts loaded into memory before any checking of the dvd is done? If so, we'd be out of the dashboard's code by that time.

[Kthulu]

i think the only real potential of the xbes from dvd movies would be to present us with a region-free xbe to be used in UDE2.  but since DVD movies themselves are 'region-centric', i'm not gonna hold my breath for that either.

what i think may have loads of potential, would be to find out exactly what the Xbox Game disc book type is and develop a book type setter for it.  this direction of thought would perhaps present a method of making game backups that would work on unmodded xboxes....which is what we did we burnt the hulk demo to dvd-r with book-type=DVD-ROM and it worked.

[Kthulu]

QUOTE (Angerwound @ Sep 24 2004, 09:30 PM)

Yes, but are fonts loaded into memory before any checking of the dvd is done? If so, we'd be out of the dashboard's code by that time.

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i would suspect that the MS Dashboards check for d:/default.xbe and attempt to launch it before they ever even look for a resource file

test it in a hacked state.  delete the font files from C.  insert a game disc.  launch xboxdash.xbe...

[XanTium]

Another info note: the newer Sony writers (DRU-700A and probably also 710A) also have support for bitsetting (booktype) using Lite-On's BookType Utility.
http://www.liteonit....ip/BookType.zip

[Angerwound]

Used your method to test. Fonts are loaded before default.xbe is tested for launch...  

[Angerwound]

You could also test by placing 4920 and the old bert&ernie hacked fonts on /c/ - and make sure they boot to the hacked dash. Turn the box off with your burnt disc inside and turn on - See if results are different then before. It will more than likely reboot.

[Kthulu]

are you using hacked fonts? i don't see how you'd know that unless you were.  my test here went like this:

i'm using x2 4981, tsop flashed.  i inserted a game disc.  then i deleted all fonts from my C drive.  then i launched xboxdash.xbe.  i got no errors...it just booted the game disc.

when i deleted everything but xboxdash.xbe off my C drive, and launched xboxdash.xbe,  i got error 21.

[Kthulu]

QUOTE (Angerwound @ Sep 24 2004, 09:44 PM)

You could also test by placing 4920 and the old bert&ernie hacked fonts on /c/ - and make sure they boot to the hacked dash. Turn the box off with your burnt disc inside and turn on - See if results are different then before. It will more than likely reboot.

it will definitely boot the dvd in that case.  the bios loads it (before it even attempts to load xboxdash.xbe)

[EthanHunt_IMF]

QUOTE (XanTium @ Sep 24 2004, 09:40 PM)

Another info note: the newer Sony writers (DRU-700A and probably also 710A) also have support for bitsetting (booktype) using Lite-On's BookType Utility. http://www.liteonit....ip/BookType.zip

From what I can tell/have read, all Sony drives are rebaged lite-ons...  Seems like they are in business together, reading my TDK's (mine is also a rebadged lite-on) eeprom you can find "SONY.CORPORATION" in there.

off topic i know, but still useful for those experimenting that have a Sony drive.

[eh.]

I borrowed Shrek (the "Two-Disc Special Edition") and can confirm it's only got video and PC content on it, alas eh.

(The "Exclusive! Hints for Shrek Xbox Video Game Only Available on this DVD" is just some drawings and words - nothing from the game at all eh!  )

[patto]

false advertising!  

[Chicken Scratch Boy]

rofl no.

it says on the cover that it is only hints

[eh.]

I rented HULK (the "2 Disc, Widescreen, Special Edition") and my HDD based tests suggest its '5680' xboxdash.xbe is audio exploitable (as it hangs instead of displaying the 100 sound track message) eh!  

Although far from being the utopia still hoped for, if it does have the Audio flaw and if there's a way to boot it accordingly from the video DVD, then I suspect it'd be especially useful for non-NTSC-U 5713+ softmodders plus provide an XBL compatible backdoor for every softmodder eh.  
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Edit: corrected "everyone" to be "every softmodder".


Update: The above '5680' testing was perfomed via PBL-lite->EvoX(bios&dash) and therefore may not be valid (alas) ... via both nkpatcher and direct habibi my box reboots (instead of displaying the 100 sound track message) eh.