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John Hoek

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« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2004, 12:46:00 AM »
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« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2004, 02:25:00 AM »
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Maybe the EEE can be used if the HULK xboxdash.xbe doesn't validate settings_adoc.xip (just like the 5960 dashboard). This exploit would of course make it less convienient but still...
settings_adoc.xip is not in the xboxdash folder as listed by Kthulu, but the xboxdash.xbe does have a reference to settings_adoc.xip in the part of the code concerning soundtracks.

Again this is assuming the dash will run from DVD...
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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2004, 05:49:00 AM »
RMENHAL: Have you taken a look at the update.xbe on SW disc? How does it's code look for the fonts?
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« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2004, 06:19:00 AM »
Can anyone confirm of deny this about Shrek? Was this Shrek 1 or 2?
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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2004, 06:22:00 AM »
that default.xbe (the one that extracts everything for the demo) also loads up fonts, maybe that one can be exploited
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« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2004, 06:39:00 AM »
QUOTE (Angerwound @ Sep 24 2004, 10:22 AM)
Can anyone confirm of deny this about Shrek? Was this Shrek 1 or 2?

would have to be 1, 2 is not out yet.
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« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2004, 06:42:00 AM »
QUOTE (heinrich @ Sep 24 2004, 08:42 AM)
would have to be 1, 2 is not out yet.

LOL makes sense, thanks heinrich I'll pick her up in a few hours.

Well, I took a look at the coverart for the shrek dvd. It seems there is only 'hints for the xbox game exclusively on this dvd'. I'll still go buy it and check it out.
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« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2004, 07:00:00 AM »
QUOTE (EthanHunt_IMF @ Sep 24 2004, 02:25 PM)
that default.xbe (the one that extracts everything for the demo) also loads up fonts, maybe that one can be exploited

Very interesting idea Ethan.  I too considered this (after >>this<< happened), and looked at the date on the SWBF self-extracting XBE but guessed it was too recent  (so didn't actually investigate any further!  unsure.gif ).  If the Shrek 1 DVD works the same way, it might just me old enough for this idea to fly.
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« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2004, 08:22:00 AM »
well, based on the lack of a font-hole in the default.xbe and xboxdash.xbe from the Hulk disc,  it seems like a lost cause to get the hulkdash to boot from dvd.

does shrek actually contain an update.xbe?  has anyone verified that there are any xbes on shrek at all?  i'll find it and buy it today if so...

when (approximate date) was the font-hole fixed?  this would give us a range of dvds to start looking at...

a font-exploited xbe from a movie dvd seems like the best hope...
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« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2004, 09:25:00 AM »
QUOTE (Kthulu @ Sep 24 2004, 04:25 PM)
well, based on the lack of a font-hole in the default.xbe and xboxdash.xbe from the Hulk disc,  it seems like a lost cause to get the hulkdash to boot from dvd.

Has it been determined that there is no font hole in the hugh self-extracting default.xbe on the Hulk disk?

devz3ro's post shows the date of the Hulk self-extracting default.xbe as Jul 24 17:47:53 2003 - this is before the Aug 5th, 2003 date the latest kernels use to prevent exploitable dashboards from running.

Although this >>post<< is talking about the STBF self-extractor, it very likely that the Hulk self-extracting default.xbe also uses C:\fonts.

The SWBF self-extracting default.xbe throws Error 21 when it find the exploit fonts in C:\fonts - indicating that the font hole is plugged - but the Hulk's hugh self-extracting default.xbe is older......
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« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2004, 09:26:00 AM »
Just replying for the sake of email notification on this topic..
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« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2004, 09:38:00 AM »
editing the XBE will infact lose its signature.

P.S its SWBF, not STBF
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PedrosPad

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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2004, 09:40:00 AM »
QUOTE (regress @ Sep 24 2004, 05:35 PM)
The hash collision detection seems like that'd be one of the best ways to do it, if we can get a hold of that algorithm.

163MBs of bits for John to toggle with wink.gif
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Kthulu

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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2004, 10:13:00 AM »
QUOTE (rmenhal @ Sep 24 2004, 03:10 AM)
The known font hole has been closed in the Hulk xboxdash.xbe (i.e. not exploitable that way even if fonts could be loaded from the disc.)

@PedrosPad

the default.xbe in devz3ro's original post has the same date as the xboxdash.xbe, so if remhnal says there is no font-hole in hulkdash, there wouldn't be a font-hole in the hulk demo either (default.xbe)...or would there?
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Kthulu

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« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2004, 10:40:00 AM »
QUOTE (jonny_eh @ Sep 24 2004, 12:24 PM)
I doubt that the hulk default.xbe would even use the dash stored on the DVD. What purpose does that dash serve? My guess is it's there as a backup to the HD dash?

I doubt there's any point to finding holes in the included dash if it isn't even loaded. Does the SW DVD contain a dash? If not, then the dash probably isn't necessary, therefore never used, and therefore not exploitable.

as far i can tell, the xboxdash.xbe doesn't even get used by the demo.  it almost seems like somebody forgot to delete the folder before they started pressing the discs.  the attractive thing about the xboxdash.xbe, was the fact that it was flagged to be run from dvd.

i started looking at the hulkdash way back because i didn't think the self-extracting default.xbe (hulk demo) even used fonts.  now, according to PedrosPad, they do use fonts, so i agree...i don't see any point in playing around with the xboxdash.xbe on the Hulk dvd...especially if it is not font-exploitable.  i don't think there's any hope of getting it to boot far enough to use the EEE.  a font exploit is what i was hoping for the whole time because the fonts are the first thing the dash loads, right?  if so, it wouldn't matter if some of the other file it wanted weren't there...it would load the fonts, go crazy, and load pbl or something.

but the xboxdash.xbe from the hulk dvd and the default.xbe from the hulk dvd have the same date.  remhnal said the font-hole was closed in the xboxdash.xbe, so i would think it's closed in the default.xbe too.  perhaps remhnal could look at the default.xbe too and tell us what he thinks about the possibility of it being font-exploitable.

EDIT: anyone know if there are xbes on Shrek yet?
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