Topic: Don't Run A Hdd Xbe Scan! :o (Read 761 times)

krayzie · « **Reply #120 on:** April 26, 2005, 09:07:00 PM »

Since it's hard to supersede the UXE and any EEE based Exploit kinda sucks for it's fingerdancing I suspect something double dash based or similar....

eh. · « **Reply #121 on:** April 27, 2005, 02:14:00 AM »

+ correct supposition
+ correct assumption (I considered Uber4920 but decided against it)
+ it's one of those
+ correct guess
+ indeed there is!

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@Soullar: it's had a number of comical moments for sure (and now it has a cheerleader).

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@Cio: you also scored more than Pedro.

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@kingroach: ahem (and this isn't "my exploit")!

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@kingroach & cmiz: only the "Uber" word matches the name I was thinking of. (=>

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@cmiz: I've now decided what to name for it for sure (and it's different)!

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@krayzie: I believe it has no less features than UXE, plus it definitely has an extra capability.

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@azrm2k: I applaud your (Mensan?) deduction skills, essentially solving my 'letters algebra' and the earlier riddle too!

eh. · « **Reply #122 on:** April 27, 2005, 02:52:00 AM »

5...
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So, 'FUSE' meant "Fonts Uber Softmod Exploit" and it might rival UXE ... how could that be possible?

Cio · « **Reply #123 on:** April 27, 2005, 03:59:00 AM »

Should we look for the extra "capability" on a removable media device?

(Like fonts that can boot the retail dash, but also boot an exploited dash from a cd/dvd)

krayzie · « **Reply #124 on:** April 27, 2005, 07:22:00 AM »

the only "real" feature UXE is missing is xbox live capablity that's why I mentioned double dash or another way to trigger the exploit via the retail msdash. I hope it has live console acces otherwise it would have no real benefit over coldbooting.

Angerwound · « **Reply #125 on:** April 27, 2005, 07:28:00 AM »

QUOTE(eh. @ Apr 27 2005, 01:22 AM)

5...
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So, 'FUSE' meant "Fonts Uber Softmod Exploit" and it might rival UXE ... how could that be possible?

Well Eh.. I've attempted to stay away from this thread as I was sure you'd drive me insane trying to figure out what you could possibly be up to. I've had some ideas tossed about in my head but if I know you..I'm way off.

Just wanted to ask if this allows unsigned code in a live compatible state or does it not cross these boundries?

wrayal · « **Reply #126 on:** April 27, 2005, 10:06:00 AM »

"@wrayal: I hope you're not offended (nor anyone else) but I suspect that my approach to this is unlikely to change."

Nah, I'm not offended at all (in fact, frankly, looking back over my posts I find them a bit rude :\ ). It's a bit of fun! For me at least...

Wrayal

cmiz · « **Reply #127 on:** April 27, 2005, 10:40:00 AM »

QUOTE(eh. @ Apr 27 2005, 02:20 AM)

@cmiz: "always being difficult eh.", hmmm, I much preferred Pedro's "eh eh? - You got'a love him."!

my comment was also meant in good nature, i find the guessing games to be entertaining.

well we've got the name now...but still not the exploit. is it a double dash derivative? perhaps launched through another executable? (not sure how it would be triggered though...perhaps the music menu seeing as nobody really uses that anymore anyways?) or perhaps the retail fonts have been edited...i guess we'll have to wait and see

Olipro · « **Reply #128 on:** April 27, 2005, 11:05:00 AM »

wow, the tension, the suspense, I think I'm going into cardiac arrest...

If this is going to supercede UXE, then Live compatibility has to be one of the improvements, but I'll wait for the official word, only time will tell.

anjilslaire · « **Reply #129 on:** April 27, 2005, 01:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(Angerwound @ Apr 27 2005, 03:58 AM)

Just wanted to ask if this allows unsigned code in a live compatible state or does it not cross these boundries?

If this were the case, would it not be allowed on X-S? I recall you saying that a current way to get backups on live! would not be revealed to the public?

kingroach · « **Reply #130 on:** April 27, 2005, 01:33:00 PM »

QUOTE(anjilslaire @ Apr 27 2005, 06:58 PM)

If this were the case, would it not be allowed on X-S? I recall you saying that a current way to get backups on live! would not be revealed to the public?

there is ?.. I will pay $140 ( thats all I have) for that bios..

Olipro · « **Reply #131 on:** April 27, 2005, 01:47:00 PM »

perhaps there is already a live compatible exploit out there, but I doubt we'll ever be graced with its existence, the old point of "too many cooks" (or too many people spoiling a good thing)

I always wondered what would happen if a portion of code were to be injected into the XBE of a game that would rewrite the BIOS in mem back to retail, and then continued executing, or a BIOS that could intercept the check implemented by XBL, but I'm unaware of the technical workings of the Xbox on such a level, so who knows what can be done.

Angerwound · « **Reply #132 on:** April 27, 2005, 03:26:00 PM »

QUOTE(Olipro @ Apr 27 2005, 12:17 PM)

perhaps there is already a live compatible exploit out there, but I doubt we'll ever be graced with its existence, the old point of "too many cooks" (or too many people spoiling a good thing)

Your absolutely correct on that one. Very few of the greatest exploits go public.

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I always wondered what would happen if a portion of code were to be injected into the XBE of a game that would rewrite the BIOS in mem back to retail, and then continued executing,

Well, I wondered the same thing almost a year ago. In fact, I even got around to creating an application that was basically... like xbedump. The main difference being it would inject the patch back code on the fly into some padding within the XBE. Once there, the entry point of the xbe was pointed at this bit of code. That way when you executed the xbe it would return everything in memory to retail, and jump back to the original entry point of the game. This was never released because of obvious reasons.
Of course, I would never divulge this much information if the flaw unfortunately wasn't fixed.

You can thank MS's dash update right about the time of Halo 2 for that one.

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or a BIOS that could intercept the check implemented by XBL

No Comment on that one..

Keo-Keo · « **Reply #133 on:** April 27, 2005, 03:27:00 PM »

It's always very interesting to see what pop's in the XBE exploits section.. "Good artist steal better ones copy" This isn't implying that the better artist stole an idea.. Better yet.. Improved an existing idea.. Keep up the good work eh! :-D

eh. · « **Reply #134 on:** April 27, 2005, 04:50:00 PM »

Uh oh, I'd better "nip this in the bud" - it doesn't cross over any XBL boundaries (SFAIA)!

I'm hoping it will be more the opposite and provide one or two XBL compatibilities that UXE might not have. I say "might" (again) because I don't have Live! and have limited knowledge of it - let's pursue that...

Do any of you know whether update.xbe's and downloader.xbe's work when the retail disc's coldbooted and UXE's installed?

Also, if either or both don't work with UXE, anyone know (for sure) what the cause of their issue/s is?

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