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chimpanzee

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Has Anyone Softmod 1.6 Box ?
« on: July 24, 2004, 11:55:00 PM »

If you are an experienced users and know how to hotswap(and don't care if it void the warranty), would much appreciate if you can test out ldots xbxhdm tools and see if the current unlock/lock programs still work on 1.6 HD.

The reason is that ConfigMagic no longer runs on 1.6 and there is a chance that the eeprom layout etc. has been changed so the HD key generation may no longer work as well.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2004, 12:24:00 AM »

I've been trying to look into this a little more.  Is it possible that it doesn't work because the eeprom key is different on a 1.6 box (there is a line for eepromkey for 1.6 in metoo).  Judging from this I'm guessing that's why config magic gives an error reading the eeprom.  So I'm also guessing that's why the hdd key evox gives might also be incorrect.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2004, 12:31:00 AM »

that is my concern and why I raise it out of the original thread as I think it is pretty important.
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chimpanzee

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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2004, 12:40:00 AM »

QUOTE (scrupul0us @ Jul 25 2004, 08:40 AM)
Whats your kernel version?

mine is an old one 5101, so it is not a problem for me. But I would like to know how crippled 1.6 is so if I buy a new one, I have to watch out.

The 5713+ kernel issue is more or less solved but 1.6 box is iffy based on what I have read so far.
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chimpanzee

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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2004, 12:47:00 AM »

QUOTE (scrupul0us @ Jul 25 2004, 08:44 AM)
Far as I know, UDE2 supports 1.6 Kernels...

I am not talking about the kernel, I know UDE2 supports the kernel 1.6 use in US/Canada. The whole thread is about if the key grabbing procedure still works on 1.6 as that is needed for HD upgrade. Without HD upgrade, the box is heavily crippled even after modding. There is only about 5G space on E which can't even store one backup game and at most 3-4 DivX movies.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2004, 10:09:00 AM »

The problem here is three-fold (at least).

First of all you need a tool that can read and dump the eeprom on a v1.6 xbox. This has new hardware (new mobo), so this probably needs some changes in the software that is suppose to access the eeprom. In the xbox_tool case the i2c-bus drivers probably need updating. I'm sure the xbox-linux team will do this in a future release of the xbox-kernel. I think Gentoox was recently run on a 1.6 for the first time.

Second, the eeprom could be encrypted differently. I doubt it. So I would think xbox_tool (in my updated version) would be able to decrypt the eeprom. If it doesn't it might only be minor changes that would be needed. And EthanHunt_IMF, this linux tool doesn't use the eeprom key. It's able to decrypt the eeprom without any keys using the "Friday 13th attack" hack.

Thirdly, the eeprom layout could be changed. Also that should mean minor changes in present tools. And it's not only the HD key that needs extraction, it's also the "Confounder" entry that goes into the HDD password generation (along with the HDD model and serial number).

So, can any tool presently even dump the eeprom to a file? If so, does it look reasonable smile.gif
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2004, 12:19:00 PM »

I have eeprom dumps of 2 different 1.6s and my 1.4.  The 1.6 eeprom dumps were from evox and the 1.4 is from config magic.  Opened all 3 up in a hex editor and they look to be similar.  What would be the serial (i'd have to double check for the 1.6's) numbers seems to be in the same spot in all 3 dumps.. as well as the string "EST.EDT" as well as an "@" and a ":".  There is a something different about the 1.6 and 1.4 images. At the end, both 1.6 eeproms have "FE..xV.i.." and it repeats 5 times. The 1.4 doesn't have this.

Note to Ldots...  Are you sure about the confounder key being needed? When I use liveinfo, it generates the same password whether i used the confounder or not, and this password matches the orginal password i used to unlock the drive (it's my stock seagate 10 gig HD)
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2004, 01:22:00 PM »

QUOTE (EthanHunt_IMF @ Jul 25 2004, 08:22 PM)
Note to Ldots...  Are you sure about the confounder key being needed? When I use liveinfo, it generates the same password whether i used the confounder or not, and this password matches the orginal password i used to unlock the drive (it's my stock seagate 10 gig HD)

Sorry, not being too specific. The Confounder entry is not needed in the actual HDD password generation, but it's used in the "Friday 13th" hack for decrypting the eeprom. Both the linux tools, Liveinfo and ConfigMagic use this.

Well, if the evox eeproms seem OK you can try them out with the updated xboxhdm when I finish that. Should be soon.
Did you try generating a HDD password with LiveInfo using these eeproms and see if if lets you unlock the HDD?
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2004, 08:31:00 PM »

liveinfo will not read the eeprom.bin generated from evox. but i tried entering the hddkey in liveinfo and had no success unlocking the hd with the password it generated.
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chimpanzee

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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2004, 08:40:00 PM »

QUOTE (batman00 @ Jul 26 2004, 04:40 AM)
i think ldots xboxhdm isnt locking drives right,so you might wanna check hdddriver!

no. ldots' program get the hddkey wrong only. The locking/unlocking works so long the hddkey or the password is right.
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chimpanzee

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2004, 08:52:00 PM »

QUOTE (batman00 @ Jul 26 2004, 04:46 AM)
chimp what u mean hdd key wrong,dont u lock new drive with hdd key?

I was confused as well and there is a chance that some of the faile lock/unlock scenario is caused by this confusion.

The HD is locked/unlocked by a PASSWORD. This password is generated from HDkey+HDserial+HDModel. The HDkey is stored in eeprom, the serial and model stored in the HD.

ldots' program(or should be the existing xbox-linux team version) get the wrong Hdkey for 1.2+ box so the password generated is wrong. If the password is given manually, it still works.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2004, 09:28:00 PM »

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chimpanzee

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2004, 09:38:00 PM »

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BTW, it may be a good idea to change hdtool to take hdkey(from a file may be) in addition to eeprom and manual password. This way, if there is some tools that get updated faster than hdtool(in getting new hdkey), it would still work.

I would assume that this change still does not work for 1.6 box because of your points outlined previously.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2004, 11:00:00 PM »

I'm sort of lost. I just got into this soft-modding thing this weekend and I've been putting late nights trying to figure things out. Finally I did by getting the right BIOSs and tools. I'm currently experimenting with a 1.6 Xbox. I have UDE2 and evox running on a stock seagate 10 gig. I would love to upgrade the drive. From what I have been reading and from what mistakes I have made over the weekend, I am assuming that upgrading to a larger hard drive is impossible right now. Is this correct?

I used evox backup to get an hddinfo.txt file, but using the XboxHDKey to generate a password in liveinfo did not work. Has anyone had success with this?

Will XBOXHDM 1.7 provide a correct password if I input the XboxHDKey?
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2004, 03:19:00 AM »

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