Topic: Bios Loaders/patchers Compared (Read 302 times)

YoshiKool · « **on:** July 21, 2004, 01:30:00 PM »

Most, if not all BIOS loaders and patchers have been supersided by nkpatcher10. Nkpatcher10's unique security functions and robust features make it perfect for any and all softmods.
Next time YoshiKool should let a mod know about modification issues!

BIOS Loaders/Patchers Compared v0.9d
v0.9: First version.
v0.9a: Added features nkpatcher is missing - Metoo is the only loader to work with M8.
v0.9b: Added that all incompatibilities with games, and xblive's checking.
v0.9c: Changed some incompatibilities with games, and nkpatcher's IGR.
v0.9d: Added details about nkpatcher.

All comments, feedback, and additions are greatly welcomed

This is my first "tutorial" so don't expect it to be perfect...

Phoenix BIOS Loader - Phoenix Team
The original BIOS loader
Advantages

BIOS selection menu
Debug text displayed on screen

Disadvantages

Slow loading
Doesn't work with kernels 5530 and up
Doesn't like certain USB devices and AV packs
Screen garbles up during BIOS loading
Discontinued

PBL-Lite - ldots
A cut down version of Phoenix BIOS Loader - for fast booting
Advantages

Very fast booting
No problems with USB/AV devices like the original PBL

Disadvantages

Doesn't work with kernels 5530 and up
Discontinued for now

nkpatcher - rmenhal
A kernel patcher designed to provide an alternative from loading BIOSes on newer kernels
Advantages

The fastest boot of all loaders/patchers
Works on new kernels!
Very easy to configure
Easy to change boot XBE
No problems with USB/AV devices
Feature loaded, with unique security options
Designed completely around softmods

Disadvantages

PBL - The Metoo Edition - rmenhal
A PBL remake made to load BIOSes on newer kernels!
Advantages

Fast boot time
Works on new kernels!
Only loader to work with the new EvoX M8 BFM for v1.6?
No problems with USB/AV devices

Disadvantages

Not as many features as some other BIOS loaders?

Frosted BIOS Loader - Tomilius
A PBL remake meant to include a lot of extra features - frosting!

Advantages

LOTS of features - including tray state decision making
Debug text CAN bedisplayed on screen
Incorporates nkpatcher and PBLMetoo (no evox m8 loading)
Works on new kernels!
No problems with USB/AV devices?

Disadvantages

Hard to configure some more advanced options - but unnecessary for most users

NOTE
All of the PBL remakes (besides Metoo?) have incompatibility problems with certain games.
Games identified with a problem so far are listed here - respond with more.

Crimson Skies
Need for Speed Underground
Tony Hawk's Underground

NONE of the loaders/patchers can bypass Xbox Live's kernel checking - so none of them will let you play xbox live with backups.

An advantage of ALL the PBL remakes (not including nkpatcher) is that your boot.cfg is interchangable if you wish to try out different loaders - so there's one less thing to worry about...

Again, any feedback appreciated... I'm pretty sure I left some stuff out

total_ass · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:32:00 PM »

Hey good summary man, this will help all the people new to exploits and PBL.

P.S don't take this as an offence, but why didn't you get banned?

YoshiKool · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2004, 01:58:00 PM »

devz3ro explained something to me via PM - i still think i should have been banned for all my spamming... but what's done is done... anyway thanks for that

i just have a lot of free time on my hands now it's school break soon..

Tomilius · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:41:00 PM »

RiceCake · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:42:00 PM »

And its slower...lol...

...but noob friendly.

* Only slower when your using fades *

This post has been edited by RiceCake: Jul 21 2004, 09:48 PM

YoshiKool · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:46:00 PM »

I'll edit it to reflect some of the stuff you said there - but I do think the original PBL is slower than the remakes - and nkpatcher is VERY fast - almost instant...

And for FBL - i meant it was hard to configue if you wanted to take advantage of tray state decision making etc.

RiceCake · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2004, 02:49:00 PM »

FBL is hard to configure if your like me - lol - want everything just right! Although half the crap in the configuration file should be left alone unless your developing or something.

This post has been edited by RiceCake: Jul 21 2004, 09:49 PM

ldots · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2004, 04:14:00 PM »

I guess you could say PBL-Lite is discontinued - but as I have said previously, I could upgrade for 5530 + kernels if anybody wants it. It's just my understanding that Metoo took/incorporated the features I wanted when I made PBL-Lite. Fast, no USB, no video.
In short I think Metoo sort of is PBL-Lite for all kernel versions.

ripcurl · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2004, 04:19:00 PM »

i think you guys are all freaking nuts when you compare the time it takes for these hacks to kick in......were talking SECONDS here

ude2/metoo
doesn't need to be any quicker

SargeZT · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2004, 01:57:00 AM »

Perhaps it is only seconds, but I boot up all of my xbox's reguraly, and one of the three is softmodded. Yes, only seconds, but dozens of times a week, hundreds of times a year, adds up to an ALMOST negligible amount of time! Ha, take that!

YoshiKool · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2004, 03:16:00 AM »

ripcurl: yeah that is true, but the original PBL is quite slow, it takes like 10 seconds to boot :/ it's nice to just boot and have your dashboard there without having to watch loads of unneeded text...

adil786 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 23, 2004, 03:22:00 AM »

nice tut man,

thanks

FBF · « **Reply #12 on:** July 30, 2004, 12:28:00 PM »

So basically Bios Loading is going in two directions. A bios loader that has as many features as possible (FBL) and a smaller simpler one (PBL-Lite/Metoo)

Just a quick question can FBL just patch the bios like Nkpatcher if you set it to?

krayzie · « **Reply #13 on:** July 30, 2004, 12:32:00 PM »

yes (think so)

YoshiKool · « **Reply #14 on:** July 30, 2004, 12:33:00 PM »

Yes. I believe you can just put these two lines in a boot.cfg and have it work (the xbefile is an example)

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