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adil786

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« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2004, 06:06:00 AM »
QUOTE (eh. @ Jul 12 2004, 02:41 PM)
Yes jeks, because its intended purpose is to do nothing more than load bios.

wrong...,

keyboards and mouses should work, that is the point of new eversion of pbl, as the old ones didnt like keyboards/mouses too many controllers.

If im wrong, try FBL. but i dont think i am.. wink.gif

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« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2004, 06:13:00 AM »
yeah it's intention is just to ignore the usb check. so they should function as normaly.
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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2004, 10:34:00 PM »
awesome works great
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« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2004, 10:46:00 PM »
what would be the advantage in that? You like ldots name or something. Rmenhals pbl works just as fine.
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« Reply #64 on: July 19, 2004, 04:07:00 AM »
QUOTE (krayzie @ Jul 19 2004, 06:49 AM)
what would be the advantage in that? You like ldots name or something. Rmenhals pbl works just as fine.

lmao
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« Reply #65 on: July 19, 2004, 04:29:00 AM »
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QUOTE (ldots @ Jul 18 2004, 05:56 PM)
I could easily upgrade PBL-Lite to work on 5530+ kernels but I believe Metoo is just as fast, has no s-video and controller problems either, so I myself consider PBL-Lite obsolete. I anyone disagrees I could make the update when time allows it.

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« Reply #66 on: July 22, 2004, 06:02:00 PM »
So is the .xbe changer or anything or is it just the config file????
reason im askin is because I dont know how to change the bios that it loads up from the one I already have.  The one included in ur package wouldnt work with where my files were right now!!!

Or does it just involve me puting ur version in and swithing out the bios with the one I already have????
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« Reply #67 on: July 22, 2004, 11:28:00 PM »
QUOTE (krayzie @ Jul 19 2004, 06:49 AM)
what would be the advantage in that? You like ldots name or something. Rmenhals pbl works just as fine.

Agreed. But as PedrosPad pointed out, ldots delivers to the masses (A wider audience) and rmenhal delivers to the pros. Not anything against ldots, but everyone including ldots should be kissing rmenhal's ass. If it weren't for him, a lot of this shit wouldn't be as far as it is. But this all goes back to Pedro's comment. Just look at is as ldots having a army of newbies praising him, and rmenhal having a bunch of pros (or advanced users if you will) behind him.

Just my 2 cents. smile.gif

-devz3ro
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« Reply #68 on: July 23, 2004, 05:33:00 AM »
QUOTE (devz3ro @ Jul 23 2004, 07:31 AM)
Agreed. But as PedrosPad pointed out, ldots delivers to the masses (A wider audience) and rmenhal delivers to the pros. Not anything against ldots, but everyone including ldots should be kissing rmenhal's ass. If it weren't for him, a lot of this shit wouldn't be as far as it is. But this all goes back to Pedro's comment. Just look at is as ldots having a army of newbies praising him, and rmenhal having a bunch of pros (or advanced users if you will) behind him.

Just my 2 cents. smile.gif

-devz3ro

Hmmm - am I being reduced to a second rank contributer here dry.gif ? Rmenhal delivers to the Pros, ldots to the masses (read newbies). Why does that mean I have to kiss his ass?
It's like I said on another thread. Yes, I too think some newbies are praising my tools too much - there is no need to. The newbies praise them too much, the "top dogs" of this forum seem to think I'm getting too much credit biggrin.gif

It's true that we owe much of the progress of the forum the last few months to Rmenhal, but this progress would not reach the "public" on such a large scale without easy to use tools. More users means more feedback means a greater chance of finding new exploits.

In the PBL case it goes both ways. Rmenhal also benefited from mine and Tomilius' discussions on turning off video output.
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« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2004, 05:56:00 AM »
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Seriously, though, you guys are ALL fantastic (Pedros Pad too). I really enjoy your breakthroughs, and willingness to help one-another around here. This is what a true forum is SUPPOSED to be like. It is also very impressive that you guys do this with public tools (Non SDK)!
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« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2004, 06:30:00 AM »
Rmenhal, I just had an idea for improving PBL Metoo.
The xbox-linux team put a great effort into being able to run homebrew code and a homebrew bios without having to distribute M$ copyrighted information. One achievement is that they can decrypt the eeprom without having the eeprom key ("Friday 13th attack"). This is also used in the xbox_tool that you can find in the CVS depository.
Wouldn't that be a great addition to PBL? No eeprom keys would have to be added to boot.cfg
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« Reply #71 on: July 23, 2004, 06:51:00 AM »
laugh.gif. We're all family, lets keep this ball rolling.

-devz3ro

P.S. rmenhal, your meetoo pack was submitted to the usual places. Sorry for the delay sad.gif
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« Reply #72 on: July 23, 2004, 07:35:00 AM »
smile.gif  keeping the ball rolling. Just feel like I have too many balls rolling at the moment. I need to take some time off from this forum - maybe go on half time smile.gif

Would like to hear your take on my post above Rmenhal. Maybe one could even hardcode the debug RC4 key in Metoo. All BFM bioses use this key anyway dont they? That would mean no keys in boot.cfg at all - if nothing but default setting are needed the boot.cfg could be left out completely. Seems user-friendly to me...
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« Reply #73 on: July 23, 2004, 08:13:00 AM »
QUOTE (ldots @ Jul 23 2004, 02:33 PM)
Rmenhal, I just had an idea for improving PBL Metoo.
The xbox-linux team put a great effort into being able to run homebrew code and a homebrew bios without having to distribute M$ copyrighted information. One achievement is that they can decrypt the eeprom without having the eeprom key ("Friday 13th attack"). This is also used in the xbox_tool that you can find in the CVS depository.
Wouldn't that be a great addition to PBL? No eeprom keys would have to be added to boot.cfg

The friday 13th stores two hashes of the eeprom key. This is supposedly legal, whereas storing the eeprom key itself isn't.

The eeprom key is passed to the kernel by the 2bl. Since the eeprom key cannot be recovered from the two hashes, the kernel itself would need to be patched. So this isn't something that a PBL should do, but the kernel. And, well, there are certain legality issues with the kernels already, so what's a few eeprom keys?. laugh.gif

In fact, EvoX M8 kernel contains all the eeprom keys and selects the correct one automatically. So specifying eeprom keys aren't required for it.
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« Reply #74 on: July 23, 2004, 08:24:00 AM »
Hmm... I think there would be a lot of ways to store the eeprom keys with questionable legality...

For example, all eeprom keys are are hexadecimal numbers right? So you could in theory divide them by say 8, store them inside the xbe and multiply them back during execution - not storing the eeprom keys themselves but storing a changed version of them... although I doubt that would be legal...
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