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[YoshiKool]

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE (YoshiKool @ Jun 3 2004, 10:55 AM)

Hmm, Bert is Cheating on Ernie fonts seem to have a lot of features added... would it be possible to add those to the UDE font or not? I have Kernel 4034

PBL offers all the same advantages as "Bert is Cheating on Ernie" (BiCoE) to any of the exploits.  (If you can run PBL   )

[Australian Rat]

Shouldn't this be pinned, it exactly describes what anyone new coming to this forum needs to know.

[YoshiKool]

PedrosPad: true but it would be helpful for games like Crimson Skies..

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE (Australian Rat @ Jun 3 2004, 01:17 PM)

Shouldn't this be pinned, it exactly describes what anyone new coming to this forum needs to know.

Just what I intended .  I've PMed devz3ro and Lepper with no effect.

[FBF]

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Cons: No direct booting.

Surely no direct booting is not a con but an advantage  (for most people anyway).

In the double dash this lets you use the original M$ dash easily and to choose when the exploit is on.

Anyway Im nitpicking. Great post  

[KLeAneR]

Would someone mind defining:

No Dashboard access to the XBOX!Live console.
No XBOX!Live game access to the XBOX!Live console.

Thank you in advance.

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE (KLeAneR @ Jun 4 2004, 05:17 AM)

Would someone mind defining: No Dashboard access to the XBOX!Live console. No XBOX!Live game access to the XBOX!Live console. Thank you in advance.

Fair Qs.

The initial operating system user interface (UI) installed on the XBOX Hard Disk Drive (HDD) is known as the "Dashboard".  When this XBOX is powered up without any DVD media in the drive, the BIOS runs C:\xboxdash.xbe, the XBOX's boot Dashboard program.  The Dashboard program allows the user to perform various housekeeping functions, tidying up game saves, copying CD audio tracks to the XBOX hard disk for use in in-game custom soundtracks, etc.  The Dashboard also allows audio CDs to be played, and, with the DVD dongle, DVD movies to be viewed.

When M$ release XBOX!Live, they then required the user to have access to a whole new set of maintenance options, to configure their XBOXs for the Internet, create their GamerTag, view XBOX!Live hi scores, locate other XBOX!Live players, etc.  They could have simply released a fatter Dashboard, but, presumably, to keep memory low, and because not every one will be using XBOX!Live, they opted to put these options in a separate program I refer to as the XBOX!Live console.  It is a physically separate XBE on the HDD called C:\xodash\xonlinedash.xbe.

To provide a why of launching the XBOX!Live console, they simply added a menu option to the boot Dashboard that allows the user to execute the XBOX!Live console.

[krayzie]

1: Ofcourse as pbl is just an app you can just as well run any other xbe out of the exploit as long as it's signed correctly

2: you can only boot retail games prior to the ude boot or it will end up as a nice video.(this isn't an UDE problem but a signature problem)

3: probably if it is signed correctly

[Australian Rat]

QUOTE (krayzie @ Jun 6 2004, 12:11 PM)

2: you can only boot retail games prior to the ude boot or it will end up as a nice video.(this isn't an UDE problem but a signature problem)

Then again, if you use a dash that has an option to autoboot DVDs or audio cds, just enable that.  Would only add another 5-10 seconds to their launch.

[ipodder2003]

Just for the record, Slayer's is available on his IRC channel again... but only for high speed users.

[PedrosPad]

Did anyone actually pull a package/tutorial together for the EEE?  I realize it's just another application of the double dash exploit (same files).  Maybe one of the double dash package maintainers could simply add a few lines about the EEE (renaming to C:\dashdata...\adoc_setting.xip, etc.) to their READMEs?  Then we'd have a combined EEE_DD package.

[krayzie]

I actually wanted to make a full UDE--> EEE switch package but considering xbins won't host m$ copyrigted files and the probably not very long life of the EEE kept me from doin that.

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE (krayzie @ Jun 17 2004, 02:43 PM)

I actually wanted to make a full UDE--> EEE switch package.

I wanted you too also

Angerwound has renaming XBEs, so a full UDE->EEE switch package is possible.  All the bits are around.  I agree that the EEE may have a shortish shelf live, but the the Dashboard could always been downgraded again, but only back as far as 5960, and not all the way to the 4290 Dashboard, as goes on now.  (Worst case, a game sav could be used to restore UDE - not ideal I know )

[chimpanzee]

Why not ask ldots to add that to his ltools UDE package.

It can now already use the dualboot to jump straight into his tools. So just add two more menu options there to :

1. disable UDE
2. renable UDE

All one needs would be a hack(for easter egg/double dash) to jump straight back to ltools. I believe it is possible to just make the hack to again look for the dualboot.xbe when triggering the easter egg.

The only problem I see is that whoever install it needs to find their own way to get the pre-live dash. A not so ideal one is to use the audio exploit(assuming downgrade the dash to 4920) as a way to get back to ltools. That won't have any copyright issue.