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Thanks a lot for the clarifications rmanhal - much appriciated.

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...either find some new serious hole in the XBE loader or find a way to disable ROJ after it's been enabled...

Naaa, doesn't look too good does it?

But remember everybody, this exploit is still very usefull (and safe) if you are not going to eject the DVD drive all the time.

You sure are very knowledgeable about the kernel and the details about the font hack though. How about digging into improving the Mech fonts  

[mbriody]

QUOTE (xb0xb0y @ May 5 2004, 11:32 PM)

You guys can keep talking amongst yourselves and ignore my previous question, which has been up to this point anyway  .  I've figured out how the font exploit works and got the double dash working. Good work rmenhal, great job! BTW, I didn't do any of the tuning of BERT at all.  Am I suppose to?  And how many people actually needed to?  Can someone explain what the tuning is for?  Thanks. Cheers!

I've got the same problem as you. I can load the old dash but after I load ernie and bert and try it I get the red light and error 21.

How did you fix it?

Different question - I'm confused as to how this works, how come you don't need to rename ernie and bert? Does the old dash just go by the font file extension and not the file name?

[xb0xb0y]

QUOTE (mbriody @ May 11 2004, 04:37 AM)

I've got the same problem as you. I can load the old dash but after I load ernie and bert and try it I get the red light and error 21. How did you fix it? Different question - I'm confused as to how this works, how come you don't need to rename ernie and bert? Does the old dash just go by the font file extension and not the file name?

someone correct me if i'm wrong ... but error 21 seems to be a file error most of the time.  the box is looking to find some file it needs to continue running/execute, and the file is not found or if it is, it isn't what it is expecting.

i ran into error 21 while installing a bigger hard drive and helping test Idots new hard drive util.  the drive was prepped and locked with the appropriate password but wouldn't boot properly.  i guessed i wasn't properly copying the files to the drive properly.  so i ended up ghosting the drive and fixed the problem.

originally i didn't have a signed default.xbe in "e:".  i then placed a signed evoxdash but that didn't work either.  finally after reading the instructions again, i put a signed PBL loader and then everything was fine.

[Angerwound]

QUOTE (mbriody @ May 11 2004, 09:37 AM)

I've got the same problem as you. I can load the old dash but after I load ernie and bert and try it I get the red light and error 21. How did you fix it? Different question - I'm confused as to how this works, how come you don't need to rename ernie and bert? Does the old dash just go by the font file extension and not the file name?

If you can boot the old dash you are half way there. Yes, the font files are boot by extensions as far as I know because you've always had to just rename the others and place bert and ernie in the folder. Secondly, your getting an error 21 is my guess because your e:\default.xbe is not either signed or there. If it is booting to an error 21 after the placing of the fonts then the fonts are doing there job and attemptng to load a file( you default.xbe ) but hitting the error because they are not there.  Good Luck.

[zorxd]

I think your phoenix is signed for the fonts
you need a package with phoenix signed with the habibi key instead

or just use : xbedumb default.xbe -habibi

[mbriody]

[devz3ro]

Great job everyone, we can still live with reset on eject.

-devz3ro

http://sh0x.tk/

P.S. Everyone who has tried this had no problems with live correct? I have been playing on live since its debut with this installed just incase some were skeptical.

[Australian Rat]

 I almost killed myself for not saving my original 4034 dash.

I'm betting others felt the same

[Australian Rat]

Odd... when I use the files in the package the screen just turns black when I hit the xbox-live tab.  The dash works fine but ernie.xtf causes problems.

Was it tuned properly i wonder? or is it just my xbox?

[Australian Rat]

Top stuff here.  Turns out I had some dummy xbe file called avadash.xbe in C.  The old BFM bios didn't call it, the new one did.  I think thats what it was anyway.

But I'm guessing we wait a few months, this ROJ will be fixed too.  You say it can't be done now, but look what was said about these 'way out there' hacks a while ago

[HSDEMONZ]

[bucko]

Sounds cool, gona give this a try once I save up enough £££ to buy another xbox and experiement with exploits like this.

[dailo_wai]

Can anyone comfirm that this package works with PBL 1.4.1?  Also I currently have the catfish fonts in the fonts dir, would I have to touch anything inside that folder?  Thanks.

[Angerwound]

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Also I currently have the catfish fonts in the fonts dir, would I have to touch anything inside that folder? Thanks.

If I understand, you have the catfish fonts within your ORIGINAL DASH's font DIR?
If this is so, replace with completely original fonts and then install the Double Dash as explained. The entire technique is based upon booting an original unmodified fonts/dashboard.

[dailo_wai]

Thanks a lot!  Wow talk about fast response!!  Also how would I go about running xbox live, do I just boot up a game and connect or do I have to change something.   Thanks again.