Topic: The Ultimate Exploit (Read 411 times)

Reno_000 · « **on:** September 12, 2003, 01:59:00 PM »

Excellent post, this could be the beginning of the end for xbox mods, hardware and exploits. Booting CD's are the holy grail of any console.

afon · « **Reply #1 on:** September 12, 2003, 03:54:00 PM »

Im not sure how this bypasses the need for a uniqe signature on the xbe file we load?

Xboxhakur · « **Reply #2 on:** September 12, 2003, 04:30:00 PM »

later....

mojojojo · « **Reply #3 on:** September 12, 2003, 05:05:00 PM »

this is good.
a boot disk with
like a buffer overflow then phoenix would be real kewl

good luck

sgd · « **Reply #4 on:** September 13, 2003, 12:45:00 AM »

QUOTE (xdreamer @ Sep 13 2003, 08:57 AM)

Hello,

i do not want to sound rude but you guys should learn a bit more
about how the security of the xbox works.

DVDs are not only recognised by a special format but also by some
flag in the write protected area that describes the media format.

As long you cannot write to the unwritteable parts you will never
fool the XBOX that the inserted DVD is a ROM and not an R/RW.
The only way your work could be done would be pressing the DVD.
But with what content? Putting any XBE on it would be highly illegal
EVEN! if you own the original game, because the guy who would
have to press the DVD would have to have a license from MS + the
game author... *GOOD LUCK*

Anyway If you can find a special type of media that reports it is a
DVD dual layer ROM (I wonder why noone produces such writeable
media? would only need patched burner firmware to let it try to
write anyway) then you should contact the MechInstaller team
according to some rumours they have exploits that would work
if you succeed.

so long
back to dreaming

assholes like you also said the 007/MA hack along with free-x and every other non-mod chip mod would never work and is just a dream. so stfu.

seanmartina · « **Reply #5 on:** September 13, 2003, 07:10:00 AM »

QUOTE

BH: It's definitely possible. Likely? I think maybe not. The most likely attack right now on the Xbox of this form would be on the CD/DVD-ROM file system itself, something that could trigger a buffer overrun error, or the like, based on a malformed record on the DVD-ROM. I don't know how much people have looked into this.

xdreamer · « **Reply #6 on:** September 13, 2003, 10:14:00 AM »

I feel really sorry for you guys. If you dare to quote bunnie you should
realize what he said.

He did NOT say that an attack would mean to try to look like a real xbox
disk but to find a buffer overflow in the driver.

I had to learn today from a friend that creating a disc that is accepted
by the xbox cannot be possible, because the XBOX kernel tried to read
from BOTH layers. So good luck dreamers... Try to get two layers on a
DVD-R.

And no. I am not from the US. And as long you do not live in lawless
countries like russia you will get problems when you distribute
pirated game binaries.

bull · « **Reply #7 on:** September 13, 2003, 10:27:00 AM »

seanmartina · « **Reply #8 on:** September 13, 2003, 11:08:00 AM »

QUOTE

The most likely attack right now on the Xbox of this form would be on the CD/DVD-ROM file system itself, something that could trigger a buffer overrun error, or the like, based on a malformed record on the DVD-ROM

it says the cddvd-rom file system (nothing there about drivers, and the cd , never knew that was dual layer , must be something new in your mind, CD/DVD-ROM file system , learn to read prop before you talk shit

by the way im sorry Xboxhakur for this bit of flaming, this is my last say on the subject if you need any help or testing let me know

Wooger · « **Reply #9 on:** September 13, 2003, 02:30:00 PM »

QUOTE (xdreamer @ Sep 13 2003, 09:07 PM)

Guys. Bunnie said filesystem. This is handled in ther kernel dvd/cd driver.

What you are trying is to create a dvd where you can launch an XBE from.

You little fuckhead. That is impossible. Nothing more and nothing less did I say.
All XBOX games come on 2 layer disks, because the copy protection is on both layers. Realize it and die in shame. This is the same shit as the guy who came to
the xbox linux guys claiming that he created a disk that can crash the dashboard
DVD player. This was a nice laugh when they analyzed it and said that they
can replay and stop the "crash" by using the DVD remote.

I would not be suprised if XBOXHakur is the same person.

Reading this post it doesnt appear to me that they are trying to create a dvd with an xbe on it and execute the xbe. It looks to me like there trying to accomplish the same task that the font exploit uses.

Simply create a DVD that is recognized period.
Within the DVD data include your code (code being anything you want to execute)
Boot the DVD in the xbox which will launch the dvd player, cause an overflow and begin your code's execution.

Sure its possible I don't see why not. Once you get a block of information into memory data is data.

Even if they are not trying to accomplish this task and they are simply trying to backwords engineer the XBox's ISO filing structure I don't see any problem with that either.

And as to the question about if the XBox wont play a single layered disk??? (I believe this was off the wall question stated earlier) But sure it will play a movie on a single layered disk no prob. As well as games on single layered disks. There has been a few games releases (original xbox games) on single layered disks. The amount of layers on a disk means nothing really. Its the checks on each layer (single or dual).

Wooger

Xboxhakur · « **Reply #10 on:** September 13, 2003, 03:26:00 PM »

later...

vintage_guitar · « **Reply #11 on:** September 13, 2003, 03:37:00 PM »

Words of wisdom. Looks VERY PROMISING, here with this, "NO YOU CAN'T!" newb on our hands.

seanmartina · « **Reply #12 on:** September 13, 2003, 05:35:00 PM »

You have my full support, looks very promising indeed, i think your mind is looking in the right direction, any thing i can do im more than happy. forget about the dreamer,

afon · « **Reply #13 on:** September 13, 2003, 06:03:00 PM »

Your statements are choppy and un explanitory. So far you have gotton the xbox to read your disc? Great, i can do that with my backup, it reads it, then returns DDE. As far as rebooting, im not sure that can be classified as rebooting. The TOC editing i think would work, but i cant see where you going with messing with sectors.

gBOX · « **Reply #14 on:** September 14, 2003, 01:24:00 AM »

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