Topic: Font Exploit Analysis (Read 488 times)

Neilor · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2004, 06:53:00 AM »

Grospolina ::: How did you get on with experimenting with the blended fonts, any success in getting out of clock loops?

Neilor · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2004, 12:14:00 AM »

Dont' know if this will help much, but I have found that everytime I reflash a bios on the Xbox the clock get's reset. If you have a flash enabled bios and a suitable recovery mode (split TSOP/Mod-Chip) in case of bad flash it may help shorten the debug cycle.

I've only used Evox for flashing so I don't know if this is a side effect of flashing the bios or if it's specific to Evox.

digisatman · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2004, 01:36:00 AM »

gropsplina owns!

COME ON DUDEZ!!!

grimdeath · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2004, 04:38:00 AM »

this is great news gros please keep us posted on your progress with these new fonts your working on dude good job

Neilor · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2004, 12:05:00 AM »

ldots · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2004, 01:01:00 AM »

Easy now Neilor! I don't know what version of the Mech fonts you have, but I would bet you the clock loop is not fixed. I dont see how it could be with the current structure of these fonts. All versions of hacked fonts rely on a somewhat uncontrolable sequence of event to happen in the correct order and therefore no fonts have a complete fix for the clock loop. The success of the fonts rely very much of the environment they run in, and therefore some fonts work well on certain xbox versions but not on others. If you have a set of fonts that work well for you - congrats! But that doesn't mean the loop is fixed. I personaly never had any serious looping with any version of the fonts (reloaded, bigfonts, mech)

Edit : Of course I dont mean to disencourage any further development on the fonts Grospolina. It's just that the 'Clock loop is fixed' posts are numerous on this forum leading some leading some people to go ahead using them without taking precautions, like backing up hd key, eeprom etc.

krayzie · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2004, 01:17:00 AM »

The fonts in the package contain the feenix version of the hacked mech fonts and even though they don't fix the clock loop entirely they seem to do a pretty good job at it. I modded lots of xboxes of all versions with these fonts and I never experienced a real loop and never had anyone complain that they were in a loop.
These fonts even prevent any upgrades of the dashboard from within a game so in my opinion these fonts are the best ones at the moment'.

ldots · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2004, 01:37:00 AM »

Yep. The feenix fonts are the ones closest to the original linux-fonts I think. As I recall they were the ones released by an anonymous hacker who deobfuscated the linux-fonts. Most versions of these fonts are slightly edited to disable the check for linux-specific files (vmlinuz etc.)

Chicken Scratch Boy · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2004, 10:27:00 AM »

is there anyway that you can have it NOT set the clock every time it boots? cause it's kinda annoying habing all your saves be saved at 6-8am on july first, especially when the game loads the lastest one...

Chicken Scratch Boy · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2004, 11:08:00 AM »

ah cool, what else might you have in store for us?

Neilor · « **Reply #25 on:** March 21, 2004, 12:13:00 PM »

Idots::: looking back at my post it may have been a bit premature to declare the clock loop dead based on the results on my own box only, you are probably right about different versions performing better than others.

But what I can say about these Feenix fonts is that they do appear to be pretty solid on my own configuration, prior to flashing the bios on my XB I had been running Bigfonts for a number of months and managed to get stuck in clock loops on three different occassions, it took alot of messing with network loop-back cables, scratched disks, waiting hours etc.... but I never got out of loops as quickly and as repeatably as i do with these fonts.

Maybe we should pole the newer generation M.I. based exploits and see if there's a pattern (V1.1's might work better than newer XB's???)

It would be most beneficial for a pole if the clock loop can be deliberately induced rather than getting opinions or beliefs that the fonts a person uses don't loop

Chicken Scratch Boy · « **Reply #26 on:** March 21, 2004, 02:24:00 PM »

yep

ah starcraft....

anyway, good luck on the fonting, cxan i beta?

Xboxhakur_band · « **Reply #27 on:** March 21, 2004, 06:26:00 PM »

Xboxhakur_band · « **Reply #28 on:** March 21, 2004, 11:05:00 PM »

ldots · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2004, 12:21:00 PM »

How is your testing of your hybrid fonts going Grospolina ?

Earlier on this thread you mentioned that you wanted to include code from the Mech fonts in your "Frankenstein" fonts. How about using the "special" exception net of the Mech fonts? Wouldn't you assing most of the "clock-recovering" success of these fonts to this net? The payload of the different fonts more or less have the same goal (though achieved with different means), the important thing being whether we reach the payload or not.

Having fonts with the succes-rate of the Mech fonts, that set the the clock if needed and otherwise boot an application would be sweet!

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